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Locked NCE and error code 306

 

I recently installed JMRI on my laptop running Windows 7.? I was able to upload the roster from my main computer to the laptop no problem.? But I am unable to do any programming from the laptop, I keep getting error coode 306.
I am using a USB to RS232 cable using USB Com port 9 running at 9600 baud.? Also, I notice that when I attempt to program on the main the system automatically switches back to program track.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.


Locked Re: Help with panels

 

Nick,

Separate panels are no longer required. Layout Editor can use all of the same panel, lever and indicator icons as Panel Editor and provide the track connectivity. See /g/jmriusers/photo/79886/0?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0

Dave Sand

On Sep 2, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Nick via Groups.Io <cornwall9@...> wrote:

Wayne,

There are some good videos on Youtube but you might get more from using one of the step-by-step clinics. They have links one the JMRI website or rr-cirkits,com also has his clinics on his website.

You didn't say what you wanted to do . The videos on Youtube show specific things like using LCC equipment , Or Arduinos for multiple tasks .Simply looking for PanelPro videos will get pretty frustrating without a specific search.

There are several types of panels you can create.
Layout Editor will provide the tools to create a trackplan of your layout with all the loops, crossovers, power/occupancy blocks, and is basically and "overhead" view of your layout.

Panel Editor will create a "graphic" panel in virtually any method you like using icons in partnership with your hardware BUT, the items are not "linked" together to follow certain "rules" of inter connectivity that Layout Editor requires, nor are you bound by the logic it uses in relationship to operating your layout.

You can also create a panel using both types of editors . One to show the train status on the "layout", the other to represent a US&S CTC panel that functions just like the prototype.

Are you currently using DecoderPro ?
What DCC system are you using ?
What type of hardware are you going to use to interact with the panel?
What do you want your panel to do ? Signaling, Automatic train control ? Control yard routes for classification yards ? Provide realistic CTC , ABS, APB signaling ?

I made the very first clinic on creating a panel for my Cornwall Railroad around 2002, and the basics are very true.

To truly help you, Some very basic information is needed. I have copied the "how to ask questions" instructions below to provide some guidance.

I can help IF you are using Windows on a PC.

I still need the information to help you though.

Regards,
Nick Kulp


===============================================================================
One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This
isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE
numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac
computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to
get you any useful help.

When asking ANY question, you should utilize a meaningful subject line that indicates
the problem and include the following information in the body of the message:

+ If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen)
+ Has JMRI worked before on this computer?
+ Computer make and model
+ if you have just upgraded, from which version
+ Any other DCC devices in use
+ Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would
like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc.

Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more
information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you
accurate answers.

Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable!

Your moderators and trouble shooters.


"I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals"

- Nick Kulp



On Monday, September 2, 2019, 09:17:55 AM EDT, Wayne via Groups.Io <rwsnyder2002@...> wrote:


Guys,

New to Panel Pro, are there any videos on how to use Panel Pro? I¡¯m having a hell of a time getting one setup.

Wayne Snyder


Locked Re: Current Version?

Jon Miller
 

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On 9/2/2019 10:10 AM, forfoum@... wrote:

He does not know which specific decoder is involved, he will have to chose and test or open up the engine and find out.

??? Also one needs to understand how TCS updates.? For example I am currently working on (in my decoder box) a T1.? It could have many updates between when I bought it and now.? I can't get to read the month, day, or year of manufacture panel (TCS).? I believe the current panels (in 4.17.3) read/write the latest revisions SO there may be changes that my decoder doesn't know about.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Locked Re: Help with panels

Nick
 

Wayne,

There are some good videos on Youtube but you might get more from using one of the step-by-step clinics. They have links one the JMRI website or rr-cirkits,com also has his clinics on his website.

You didn't say what you wanted to do . The videos on Youtube show specific things like using LCC equipment , Or Arduinos for multiple tasks .Simply looking for PanelPro videos will get pretty frustrating without a specific search.

There are several types of panels you can create.
Layout Editor will provide the tools to create a trackplan of your layout with all the loops, crossovers, power/occupancy blocks, and is basically and "overhead" view of your layout.

Panel Editor will create a "graphic" panel in virtually any method you like using icons in partnership with your hardware BUT, the items are not "linked" together to follow certain "rules" of inter connectivity that Layout Editor requires, nor are you bound by the logic it uses in relationship to operating your layout.

You can also create a panel using both types of editors . One to show the train status on the "layout", the other to represent a US&S CTC panel that functions just like the prototype.?

Are you currently using DecoderPro ?
What DCC system are you using ?
What type of hardware are you going to use to interact with the panel?
What do you want your panel to do ? Signaling, Automatic train control ? Control yard routes for classification yards ? Provide realistic CTC , ABS, APB signaling ?

I made the very first clinic on creating a panel for my Cornwall Railroad around 2002, and the basics are very true.

To truly help you, Some very basic information is needed. I have copied the "how to ask questions" instructions below to provide some guidance.

I can help IF you are using Windows on a PC.?

I still need the information to help you though.

Regards,
Nick Kulp


===============================================================================
One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This
isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE
numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac
computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to
get you any useful help.?

When asking ANY question, you should utilize a meaningful subject line that indicates?
the problem and include the following information in the body of the message:

+ If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen)
+ Has JMRI worked before on this computer?
+ Computer make and model
? + if you have just upgraded, from? which version
+ Any other DCC devices in use
+ Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would
? ? like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc.

Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more
information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you
accurate answers.?

Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable!

Your moderators and trouble shooters.


"I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals"

- Nick Kulp



On Monday, September 2, 2019, 09:17:55 AM EDT, Wayne via Groups.Io <rwsnyder2002@...> wrote:


Guys,?

New to Panel Pro, are there any videos on how to use Panel Pro? I¡¯m having a hell of a time getting one setup.

Wayne Snyder


Locked General NCE Question

 

Everyone,

Can someone give me a general list of shortcomings of a NCE PowerPro system hooked to JMRI via the RS-232 serial interface? Things that you cannot do compared to other systems for instance.

Thanks in advance.

John Griffin


Locked Re: Current Version?

Jon Miller
 

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On 9/2/2019 8:16 AM, rockpizza09 wrote:
Good Idea, Thanks for the info!

??? Personally I use the latest test release (currently 4.17.3) as they come out.? I use only DecoderPro and if there are changes or problems with that part of JMRI it's usually quickly discussed.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Locked Re: RR-Cirkits Motorman and Berrett Hill Toggle Switch pairing

 

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Steve,

You will need two I/O ports, one for output (touch) and the other for input. (color) The MotorMan only has one aux I/O, so you would need two MotorMan boards. The TowerMan has two I/O ports so that is why I suggested it. The 'Man boards can not support both Input and Output on a single port at the same time like the LCC boards can do. An LCC user could use the Berrett Hill Ribbon Cable Input adapter (RCI8) to connect to a single dual mode port. If you never use JMRI nor a hand held to control turnout position, then I think you could ignore controlling the color indication by letting it default to the toggle indication and only using the output cable. You had better try that to be sure it works right for you. In other words check to see if the color follows the Touch Toggle if no connection is made to the output connector. The reason I say this is that the Logic Translator might be converting a Touch Toggle to act like a Touch Trigger and just sending out brief pulses which would then let it act the same as other momentary turnout controls.

Dick :)

On 9/2/2019 11:21 AM, pustays wrote:

Dick?
Can I use the motorman I have or do I need to get a towerman? ?

Steve Pustay


On Sep 2, 2019, at 9:52 AM, dick bronson via Groups.Io <dick@...> wrote:

Steve,

I think all you need to do is plug ribbon cables from the translator to a TowerMan, (or other I/O port) one cable for controlling the color, and the other for outputting the commands. The power for the Touch devices will come from the TowerMan, so no external 5V power is required, but can optionally be supplied to reduce the load on the SSB.

Dick :)

On 9/2/2019 8:31 AM, pustays wrote:
I am attempting to begin automation of the trains on my layout using jmri. Currently I have enabled block detection using RR-Cirkits watchman connected through RR-Cirkits Locobuffer USB. All is running well.

Because I control my turnouts with Berrett Hill Touch Toggles, I am unable to control turnouts using JMRI/Panel Pro turnout tables/etc. Can anyone give advice regarding how I might allow control of turnouts with JMRI. I have an RR-Cirkits Motorman and the Berrett Hill Universal Translator (neither yet installed) and don't know how to get them to work with each other. Any ideas or anyone I might contact for help would be appreciated.

I don't know if it's important to know the other hardware on my layout ... but here is the list.?
Command Station : Digitrax Zephyr
Booster: Digitrax DB150
Power Management/Reversing : Digitrax PM42
Computer Connection : Lenovo Laptop PC to RR-Cirkits LocoBuffer USB
Power Supply to RR-Cirkits Watchman : RR-Cirkits SSB adapter
Turnout Control : Berrett Hill Touch Toggles (3 DB8 and 1 DB4)
Block Detection : RR-Cirkits Watchman
Turnout Control : ???? Don't have any idea if I've got this right ... RR-Cirkits Motorman & Berrett Hill Universal Translator

Thanks,

Steve Pustay


Locked Re: Virtual Sound Decoder - Clicks on looped sound files

 

Am 02.09.2019 um 16:13 schrieb conradandrose:
Tried to upload but it failed twice.? First try was through the "browse" window, second with a "drag" move.? Program (not computer) locked up.
Conrad,

Please try it again. I could upload (and "Add") a VSD file. The upload takes a minute or so, VSD files can get large.

Regards,
Klaus


Locked Re: Panel Pro Runs with Errors

 

Peter,

I have uploaded a modified xml file that works with 4.16 (and 4.17.3): ?7July2016 DS.xml

Changes:
  1. Renamed the Routes from Rnnn to IRnnn. ?R101 was causing the Java error. ?IR is the correct prefix for Route system names.
  2. Moved the custom icons to resources/icons in the user files location and modified the xml file. ?Custom icons should never be stored in the JMRI install location. ?This prevents their loss in the event of a JMRI re-install. ?Use Help >> Locations to identify the user files location.
  3. Removed the empty SSL for?LH29 South A2 4 and?LH25 West Sidings C 4A.
  4. Removed Conditionals?RTXR3501T,?RTXR4301T and?RTXR430C2. ?They were no longer associated with a Logix.
  5. Removed the embedded double spaces in the?East Siding Engine Shunt 34a & 34b and?West Storage Tk 4 Pt 15a &15b names.

Dave Sand



On Sep 2, 2019, at 2:14 AM, Peter Rushworth <peter@...> wrote:

Hi Dave,

The three icons have been uploaded to the Photos page under the heading Panel Pro Runs with Errors.

I am using the version 4.16 of JMRI.

I wondered if I have missed some of the updates. Though I also have a copy of the Panel dated in late 2018 which still gives the same results.

I¡¯m not sure what you means when you say the signal hands have no content. ?As far as I can see these two signals are the same as the other 30 odd?signal heads on the layout.

Any additional help you can give would be appreciated.

Thanks
Peter




Locked Re: Current Version?

 

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Thanks Dick. I do have Digitrax. Sounds like I better skip 4.16.

?

Rock

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dick bronson via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 10:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Current Version?

?

Rocco,

4.16 is indeed newer than 4.6, (many years newer) but be aware that 4.16 has a serious bug in the default baud rate setting area. (It affects CMRI, Digitrax, and possibly other interfaces) You would be MUCH better off to upgrade to 4.17.3 which is a test version that fixes these issues as far as we can tell. There has actually been some talk on the developers forum about how to go about fixing 4.16 so that folks don't run afoul of these issues. If I remember right it would be difficult to go back and just make these specific fixes to 4.16, so 4.16.1 probably will never happen. Normally the test releases carry some risk of new bugs, but 4.17.3 with its slight possibility for new bugs is surely the better option today, especially when compared with 4.16 and its known serious bug.

Dick :)

On 9/2/2019 10:48 AM, rockpizza09 wrote:

Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If 4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

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Rocco,

4.16 is indeed newer than 4.6, (many years newer) but be aware that 4.16 has a serious bug in the default baud rate setting area. (It affects CMRI, Digitrax, and possibly other interfaces) You would be MUCH better off to upgrade to 4.17.3 which is a test version that fixes these issues as far as we can tell. There has actually been some talk on the developers forum about how to go about fixing 4.16 so that folks don't run afoul of these issues. If I remember right it would be difficult to go back and just make these specific fixes to 4.16, so 4.16.1 probably will never happen. Normally the test releases carry some risk of new bugs, but 4.17.3 with its slight possibility for new bugs is surely the better option today, especially when compared with 4.16 and its known serious bug.

Dick :)

On 9/2/2019 10:48 AM, rockpizza09 wrote:

Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If 4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock


Locked Re: RR-Cirkits Motorman and Berrett Hill Toggle Switch pairing

 

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Dick?
Can I use the motorman I have or do I need to get a towerman? ?

Steve Pustay


On Sep 2, 2019, at 9:52 AM, dick bronson via Groups.Io <dick@...> wrote:

Steve,

I think all you need to do is plug ribbon cables from the translator to a TowerMan, (or other I/O port) one cable for controlling the color, and the other for outputting the commands. The power for the Touch devices will come from the TowerMan, so no external 5V power is required, but can optionally be supplied to reduce the load on the SSB.

Dick :)

On 9/2/2019 8:31 AM, pustays wrote:
I am attempting to begin automation of the trains on my layout using jmri. Currently I have enabled block detection using RR-Cirkits watchman connected through RR-Cirkits Locobuffer USB. All is running well.

Because I control my turnouts with Berrett Hill Touch Toggles, I am unable to control turnouts using JMRI/Panel Pro turnout tables/etc. Can anyone give advice regarding how I might allow control of turnouts with JMRI. I have an RR-Cirkits Motorman and the Berrett Hill Universal Translator (neither yet installed) and don't know how to get them to work with each other. Any ideas or anyone I might contact for help would be appreciated.

I don't know if it's important to know the other hardware on my layout ... but here is the list.?
Command Station : Digitrax Zephyr
Booster: Digitrax DB150
Power Management/Reversing : Digitrax PM42
Computer Connection : Lenovo Laptop PC to RR-Cirkits LocoBuffer USB
Power Supply to RR-Cirkits Watchman : RR-Cirkits SSB adapter
Turnout Control : Berrett Hill Touch Toggles (3 DB8 and 1 DB4)
Block Detection : RR-Cirkits Watchman
Turnout Control : ???? Don't have any idea if I've got this right ... RR-Cirkits Motorman & Berrett Hill Universal Translator

Thanks,

Steve Pustay


Locked Re: JMRI Panel Questions

 

Thank you.? We'll check on this today.
Frank


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

Good Idea, Thanks for the info!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 10:06 AM
To: jmriusers
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Current Version?

Rock, looks like you are 10 releases behind, download 4.16, install into present
directory, check you have latest Java installed, install if you don't, open DP
again, query the decoder again.

In future, you really should stay up to date as new gear is released by
manufacturers and the VOLUNTEERS at JMRI do their level best to keep up, so it
behooves we users to do the same.

Once a year I throw 10 to 20 bucks into the donation pot to help out, more of us
should do similar as JMRI has the be the best software bargain on the planet.

John

---------- Original Message ----------
From: rockpizza09 <pizza_r@...>
Date: September 2, 2019 at 9:48 AM


Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current
version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have
version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If
4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new
directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the
engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came
back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted
about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock



Locked Re: Current Version?

 

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Yep, my bad. Thanks

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Klemm
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Current Version?

?

Rock,

?

16 is higher than 6.?

?

David Klemm

Xs Max


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of rockpizza09 <pizza_r@...>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:48:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Current Version?

?

Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If 4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

oops!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jimalbanowski
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Current Version?

Rock:

4.16 is the current release version... 8 bumps up from 4.6...

Check the notes for special instructions that might be needed for that
jump there's been a lot of changes.

Jim Albanowski


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

Rock, looks like you are 10 releases behind, download 4.16, install into present
directory, check you have latest Java installed, install if you don't, open DP
again, query the decoder again.

In future, you really should stay up to date as new gear is released by
manufacturers and the VOLUNTEERS at JMRI do their level best to keep up, so it
behooves we users to do the same.

Once a year I throw 10 to 20 bucks into the donation pot to help out, more of us
should do similar as JMRI has the be the best software bargain on the planet.

John

---------- Original Message ----------
From: rockpizza09 <pizza_r@...>
Date: September 2, 2019 at 9:48 AM


Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current
version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have
version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If
4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new
directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the
engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came
back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted
about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock



Locked Re: Current Version?

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Rock,

16 is higher than 6.?

David Klemm
Xs Max


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of rockpizza09 <pizza_r@...>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:48:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Current Version?
?
Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If 4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

Rock:

10, ten... slow on the uptake today...

Jim


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

Rock:

4.16 is the current release version... 8 bumps up from 4.6...

Check the notes for special instructions that might be needed for that jump there's been a lot of changes.

Jim Albanowski