I found it easier to use routes than to use the supporting turnout feature. (All the more reason for slips not having that feature.) ?I have a complicated yard (<with three main entries(/exits) and twelve terminals plus fourteen sidings. I¡¯ve got it set up so I can select any terminal or siding and any main entry(/exit) and my script will setup all turnouts(/slips) as necessary to get from A to B. I added (virtual) sensors on each main, terminal & siding setup to call my script on state change.
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Dave,
If I understand Hall.jpg correctly, you have turnouts, slips and level crossings acting as cross-overs.
See if my annotated image is correct: /g/jmriusers/photo/79886/0?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0If my understanding is correct, I would use Logix to emulate the supporting turnout concept used by the cross-overs.
Dave Sand
On Sep 3, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Dave Barraza <dave@...> wrote:
I posted some screen shots here, I apologize if the original question was badly communicated.
/g/jmriusers/album?id=94923
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Dave,
Great information. ?I¡¯ll be making that revision tonight. ?I sometimes use the hammerhead on my own when making moves between operation sessions so the feedback to the panel will be nice in those situations. ?
Train operators are allowed to use fascia push buttons for turnouts on the main but they are also directed to return turnouts to the main when they leave an area and I have LED lights on the fascia showing turnout orientation.?
This information is an ideal demonstration of how these online discussion groups can be beneficial to us all. ?
Thomas Cain
Indianapolis, IN
atsf93@...
See my?NEW website ?and layout?at: ? Modeling the Eastern Illinois?Santa Fe from the Prototype
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On Sep 3, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote:
Tom, On 4 Sep 2019, at 4:01 AM, Tom Cain <atsf93@...> wrote:
If I use my panel to throw the turnouts or routes I can see the orientation of the turnouts on the panel. ?If I use my NCE hammerhead throttle or pushbuttons on the layout fascia to operate a turnout, I DO NOT see its orientation changing on the panel. ?Likewise if I use the throttle to throw a Macro it DOES NOT show on the panel.
For an NCE Power Pro system, that is simply fixed by setting Feedback on each of your Turnouts to "Monitoring" in the Turnout Table. That will make your JMRI panels track turnout changes made by everything (throttles, macros, JMRI, Mini Panels) except layout fascia pushbuttons (or manual force). That information (last commanded state of every accessory 1-2048) is stored in the command station and remembered across sessions (provided your backup battery is fine).
Dave in Australia
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Bob,
I have submitted a fix which will create a new panel when the different type of cross-over is selected. It is PR #7387.
Dave Sand
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On Sep 3, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Robert Perry via Groups.Io <rjpod@...> wrote:
Right now signal heads. I was able to get it working. For some reason JMRI is not letting me set up signals for a RH crossover in the same session as a LH crossover. If I save the panel and restart JMRI I can then configure the crossover. To go back to a different type of crossover, I again have to save and then restart. Weird but it is working.
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Klaus,
Upload worked on second computer.? Of course it is on my 645 dropbox file. not the latest, no notes and maybe a funny thing with click-clack.? It does have the 5 notches though.
Finally,
Conrad
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Klaus,
I downloaded your 645 file and it played perfectly.? Thank you.? However, when i installed the D1 wav file into my 645 program i got nowhere.? Even after i corrected several of my typo error the sound went dead at notch 2.? So i ran your wav file thru my WavePad Sound Editor (played ok and is correct format) and tried again. same problem.? if i quickly run the throttle past notch 2 the rest of the notches play but i can't got back or cross notch 2 without a lockup.
I'll take a break from this to clear my mind.??
And, still no luck in uploading. i get, via browse, the file.? it appears in the "drag & paste" window (5.19 mb) with "loading file 1 of 1" and ..............? nothing.? just looks like a lockup.? ?oh well. my next attempt will be on another computer.
conrad
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Jack, On 4 Sep 2019, at 4:07 AM, jackvaradi via Groups.Io <jackvaradi@...> wrote:
Error opening file for writing:
C:\Program Files (X86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe That (unable to write LaunchJMRI.exe) is a sure sign that your antivirus software is preventing you from installing that JMRI version. It often happens with antivirus software that blocks new or little-used software by default. You'll find hundreds of such reports on this list. You'll have to tell your antivirus program to "install anyway" or else temporarily disable it while installing JMRI. Dave in Australia
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Tom, On 4 Sep 2019, at 4:01 AM, Tom Cain <atsf93@...> wrote:
If I use my panel to throw the turnouts or routes I can see the orientation of the turnouts on the panel. ?If I use my NCE hammerhead throttle or pushbuttons on the layout fascia to operate a turnout, I DO NOT see its orientation changing on the panel. ?Likewise if I use the throttle to throw a Macro it DOES NOT show on the panel.
For an NCE Power Pro system, that is simply fixed by setting Feedback on each of your Turnouts to "Monitoring" in the Turnout Table. That will make your JMRI panels track turnout changes made by everything (throttles, macros, JMRI, Mini Panels) except layout fascia pushbuttons (or manual force). That information (last commanded state of every accessory 1-2048) is stored in the command station and remembered across sessions (provided your backup battery is fine).
Dave in Australia
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We are trying to upgrade JMRI on an older computer. The release notes tell us to upgrade to 4.12 first and make sure everything works. Trying to upgrade to 4.12, we get an error message:
Error opening file for writing:
C:\Program Files (X86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe?
Any help is appreciated. Any other issues to be on the lookout for?
Thanks,
Jack Varadi
Greer, SC
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Errol, On 4 Sep 2019, at 1:47 AM, Errol Spangler via Groups.Io <oscalerr@...> wrote:
Version 4.10 Good to hear you are working again. However JMRI version 4.10 is very old and and has significant issues that are likely to bite you now or in the future. Version 4.16 is the latest production version, but the current test version (V4.17.3) is recommended as a significant problem has been discovered in V4.16 and this is fixed in V4.17.3. Dave in Australia
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John,
I have a NCE PH Pro Radio system that is connected with a serial connection on the NCE Command Station and then to a USB at the computer. ?My computer is a Mac desktop computer. ?I did have an issue with the serial connection after updating the Mac operation system. ?Previously the older Serial cable had worked just fine for years but following the operation system update, the serial cable driver became very inconsistent. ?I switched to the Serial cable from RR-CirKits and it is working just fine now. ?
I have a JMRI Panel Pro panel on the computer and I use it all the time to manage turnouts and routes. Routes are the same as the NCE macros. ?The routes have to be programmed separately from the macros, but that should not be an issue if you recored all the turnouts and their orientation when you created the macros in NCE. ?I use the NCE Switch8 and NCE SwitchIt stationary decoders for turnout control. ?If I use my panel to throw the turnouts or routes I can see the orientation of the turnouts on the panel. ?If I use my NCE hammerhead throttle or pushbuttons on the layout fascia to operate a turnout, I DO NOT see its orientation changing on the panel. ?Likewise if I use the throttle to throw a Macro it DOES NOT show on the panel. ?That can be managed with additional hardware that would need the feedback from a LocoNet connection or it is possible that the newer NCE mini panel might provide that feedback. ?I have used the wireless WiThrottle app on my cell phone with no issues at all. ?
The only other area where an NCE cannot do some functions with JMRI would be for hardware specifically created for systems other than NCE. ?Honestly, I think that any upper level features can all be addressed with the NCE system.
I hope that helps and if you have a specific operation question, please let us know and I¡¯ll see if I am able to address it.
Thomas Cain
Indianapolis, IN
atsf93@...
See my?NEW website ?and layout?at: ? Modeling the Eastern Illinois?Santa Fe from the Prototype
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Everyone,
Can someone give me a general list of shortcomings of a NCE PowerPro system hooked to JMRI via the RS-232 serial interface? Things that you cannot do compared to other systems for instance.
Thanks in advance.
John Griffin
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Dave,
Thank you for the reply, and ideas!
I used the same method you do. Two channel scope, 10:1 probes, one on each programming track rail, scope and Command Station grounds connected together. The two waveforms were complementary: one going up when the other went down. Proper operation of the programmer's waveforms.
I didn't try to combine them to display the difference directly. I simply looked at both waveforms and did the math.
Given the parts used, there is no way my EasyDCC Command Station programming waveforms ever put 12V difference between the rails. Maybe it needs to be increased, but in 22 years, it's always worked until now.? I thought the minimum was 8 or 9 volts?=. Time to read the Standard again!
I can change one zener and probably increase the programming voltage to 12V or more, but I'm not certain the Command Station's wall power supply could supply enough current at the higher voltage. That might fix the CV reading problem. I don't see how it will affect the LE103 lack of control by JMRI on the main.
Don Weigt Connecticut, USA
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Dave,
I am having trouble visualizing a "crossover as part of a slip at both ends¡±.
Dave Sand
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On Sep 3, 2019, at 7:08 AM, Dave Barraza <dave@...> wrote:
In the Layout Editor one can have two turnouts work together using the "Supporting Turnout" feature. This is how I'm rendering crossovers in my panel. It woks great and I'm happy with the results.
I have a crossover which is part of a slip at both ends, and I'm wondering if there is a way to use the "Supporting Turnout" feature in this case. Did I miss it somewhere? If I need to hand code it into the xml I'm willing to do so.
Dave
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Wayne,
? ? What are your BDL168 board ID addresses and what are some of the sensor report addresses?? You also running with SE8C boards?
Roger
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Right now signal heads. I was able to get it working. For some reason JMRI is not letting me set up signals for a RH crossover in the same session as a LH crossover. If I save the panel and restart JMRI I can then configure the crossover. To go back to a different type of crossover, I again have to save and then restart. Weird but it is working.?
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I¡¯m just trying to set up my first panel. When I go to tables, sensors it¡¯s seeing my detection but the I¡¯d numbers are different that what I programmed in Digitrax DBL168¡¯s I have 2 so far. Do I need to go one by one and see what¡¯s what? Or am I missing a setup somewhere?
Wayne Snyder
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Thank you very much for the input.? It was indeed a problem with the cable not seating fully.??
I'm happy to report that everything is now working as it should.
Good on you mate.
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