All,

? ? ?While dispatcher is running two auto trains, does the program watch the sections or the blocks to avoid running up on another train?

Roger

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Dave,

Here is an example from my layout that causes this message.
The panel definition is retrieved using ?format=xml, my example here:?
After loading, clicking the "East Kaolin 2" turnout on my web panel results in:

2019-08-17 18:33:02,021 json.JsonNamedBeanSocketService? ? ? ?WARN? - post request for turnout made with user name "East Kaolin 2"; should use system name [WebServer-124]

Gary,
Concerning your last question, folks will argue both sides of that coin.? Both have pros and cons.? If you are worried for some reason that your car database will not match the layout, print it sorted by location before you begin building trains for your session or save a backup copy.

I used to build, print and terminate 24 hours worth of trains for each session of the previous version of the Castle Rock and Pacific with many dependencies included.? Knowing how the schedule worked, I would build, print and terminate trains in a logical order allowing plenty of time between dependent trains.? If you have close connections, you may want to go the real time route just in case.? Sometimes, in spite of your efforts, a connection will be missed.? I just tell my crews to annotate their switch list and move on. Stuff happens, it is part of the fun of operations.

If you are building switch lists for yards, don't forget to update those lists appropriately as you go along.

Dave...

Wayne,

All Digitrax DCS's (and the DB150) can be a CS and booster or as just a booster only..

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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 02:29 PM, Peter Ulvestad wrote:

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 03:21 PM, David Klemm wrote:

Wayne,

It is an either or. The unit is a command station or a booster. I know of no
Digitrax unit that at the same time is both a command and booster. So even
your clarification below is still worded wrong.

You said “The DCS240 is used in our application as a command station and
booster.“. Nope it can’t be this at one time.

David Klemm
Xs Max

David,
From the Digitrax website:
Combination Advanced LocoNet? Command Station and 8 amp CTC booster

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Thanks Peter, I was scratching my head trying to figure out how it was working as both a command station and booster if that was the case.?


Wayne

sorry after 8 or 10 trains work the area
Matt G

I would be curious to know if everything continues to run after 8 or 10 work the area
Matt G

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 03:21 PM, David Klemm wrote:

Wayne,

It is an either or. The unit is a command station or a booster. I know of no
Digitrax unit that at the same time is both a command and booster. So even
your clarification below is still worded wrong.

You said “The DCS240 is used in our application as a command station and
booster.“. Nope it can’t be this at one time.

David Klemm
Sent from my iPhone Xs Max

David,
From the Digitrax website:
Combination Advanced LocoNet? Command Station and 8 amp CTC booster

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JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -

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I know of no Digitrax unit that at the same time is both a command and booster.

??? Humm, how about a DCS100, a DB150, and the newer ones.?? I think we are having a problem with words here!? A booster is simply a power output device.? For example the DCS100 is a CS (a computer if you will) coupled with a power output (4.5-5 amps).

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Dave,

? ? I'm assuming what you are saying is that I should be able to go into the Raspberry after the crash via the ethernet route and change the file names remotely.? Had not thought of that.

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Thank you gentlemen!? This makes a lot more sense now to think of the siding as an interchange track.?

I have one more question below (in case you want to skip the details of how I set it up), but here is what I ended up doing, in case it is helpful for anyone else

* The towns are in the order A, B, C, north to south.? B has 7 spurs served by the Turn and a siding served by the Turn and some Way Freights (WF).
* The Turn runs A-B-A and handles traffic between A and B as well as switching at B.
* There is a NB WF C-B-A that is allowed to spot cars at B's siding destined for B.
* There is a SB WF A-B-C that is allowed to pull cars from B's siding destined for C (and beyond).

* I designate all the spurs to be served by only the Turn, A-B-A, and designate the siding to be an alternate track for off spots.? This is called Siding-(ALT).
* I designate the same siding to be Siding-(IN) for inbound cars and allow C-B-A to set out and the Turn to pull.? The only allowed destination is B, and load/empties are suitably restricted.
* I designate the same siding to be Siding-(OUT) for outbound cars and allow the Turn to spot cars and A-B-C to pull from it.? The only destination is C, and loads/empties are suitably restricted.
* I pool Siding-(ALT), Siding-(IN) and Siding-(OUT).

This seems to work quite nicely.? I just need to run it a few times to tune the loading, but that will be fun!? I know this may not be truly prototypical, but it adds a lot of play value for the road crews because it creates reasonably meaningful online work for them.? And that is the main goal.

Slightly off-topic question: what is the best practice for building a dependent set of trains like this for a session?? I want to run these in the order C-B-A, A-B-A, and A-B-C.? But to build A-B-A, I think I need to build and move C-B-A first.? If I do that before the start of a session, the cars database does not reflect the physical state of the layout at the session start.? Is this best practice, or is it advisable to build later trains in real time during a session?

Thanks again,
Gary

Roger,

On 18 Aug 2019, at 2:11 AM, Roger Merritt <merritt_roger@...> wrote:

I always have the console log running. Evidently the Raspberry JMRI program didnt like my InitialLayout.py script and bombed Java. That stopped JMRI from running anymore. I could not figure out how to fix the problem as there was no stopping JMRI on bootup ..... that I know of. Had to reformat the SD card and rewrite image to it.

That's an unnecessarily drastic approach.

Simply (temporarily) renaming all of your scripts (and panel files if necessary) that you have set to open at startup would enable JMRI to start (it would simply show an error message for the missing/renamed files in the log) and you could add back (rename) files one at a time until you located the offending file.

Dave in Australia

That will probably work for Jim. I was looking for one that emulates the .csv file produced through the Export to file function in Operations>Locomotives>Tools with the Location listed. I know Dan Boudreau did some work on them earlier. I get a ‘Syntax error: no viable alternative at input ‘jmri’ at Line 1’ error .
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 08:29 AM, Dave Suess wrote:

Wayne, what is meant by DCS configured as a booster as well. The DCS240 powers a block on our layout as well, but op switch 2 should not be configured as a booster. Not sure if that's what you meant.

Dave

Configured was probably the wrong term but for clarity: The DCS240 is used in our application as a command station and booster. Op Switch 2 is set to Command Station.?
Wayne

Jim,

Try running RosterCsvExport.py and import the resulting file into Excel.

In DecodePro, select Actions >> Run Script…. In PanelPro, select Panels >> Run Script…


Dave Sand

Yes, but I think you have to use PanelPro. If you use Panel Pro you can also export Cars, Locations, and Trains to .csv files. You can then open them in Excel. You can then either save them as .xlsx files or keep them as .csv. I have all of them then linked into one master Excel file. The one thing I haven’t been able to do is find a script that works to automate the process. The ones I’ve found don’t work.
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