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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 08:29 AM, Dave Suess wrote:

Wayne, what is meant by DCS configured as a booster as well. The DCS240 powers a block on our layout as well, but op switch 2 should not be configured as a booster. Not sure if that's what you meant.

Dave

Configured was probably the wrong term but for clarity: The DCS240 is used in our application as a command station and booster. Op Switch 2 is set to Command Station.?
Wayne

Jim,

Try running RosterCsvExport.py and import the resulting file into Excel.

In DecodePro, select Actions >> Run Script…. In PanelPro, select Panels >> Run Script…


Dave Sand

Yes, but I think you have to use PanelPro. If you use Panel Pro you can also export Cars, Locations, and Trains to .csv files. You can then open them in Excel. You can then either save them as .xlsx files or keep them as .csv. I have all of them then linked into one master Excel file. The one thing I haven’t been able to do is find a script that works to automate the process. The ones I’ve found don’t work.
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Mike Heintzman
Modeling the P&PU since 1953

Ken,

? ? I always have the console log running.? Evidently the Raspberry JMRI program didnt like my InitialLayout.py script and bombed Java.? That stopped JMRI from running anymore.? I could not figure out how to fix the problem as there was no stopping JMRI on bootup ..... that I know of.? ?Had to reformat the SD card and rewrite image to it.

Roger

Roger,

Sometimes, even when crashing, the console log gets a message. Look in
logs/session.log right after the crash and before starting JMRI again. It
may have a 'last words' that point to why that script causes a problem.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

Ken,

? ? Got confused on the sensor naming.? All good now.? Any yes, a space in the user name seems to be ok.? Just went in and did some checking and made changes changes to the script so it works now.? Was very tired last night.

? ? All this was in preparation for putting my layout on a Raspberry Pi for signal control when guests come over.? One script file I was using for initializing the layout was causing JMRI on the Raspberry to crash.? It was a script that someone had made and sent me.? Does work ok on laptop but not the Pi.

Roger

Randall,

What is needed for getting the web side fixed? Is the console log enough or
what other data should a user provide so the developer can fix it? For some
layouts, it's a lot of noise in the console log and it makes dealing with
other issues harder.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

Roger,

Is there a copy of the file somewhere? In some versions of JMRI there could
be extra spaces as part of the name that don't show on the table. I've got
lots of scripts and usernames that have spaces. Generally the display looks
almost the same with two spaces somewhere (or trailing) as one space.

When testing scripts, use the Panels->Script Output, it will get a window to
show what is being processed and make finding errors quicker. I also always
keep open the Help->System Console, it will have any error pop up and get
your attention.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

These warning messages are deliberate so we can track down Web Panel XML that are not providing system names and ensure system names are included in the XML provided to a web browser. I'd expect those to decrease through out the 4.17.x releases.

The reason for the concern about not using system names is that user names are not required attributes of objects (they can be null or blank), can be ambiguous (multiple items can have the same user name), and can be non-web safe (meaning different clients may parse that name differently).

Thanks for the encouraging comments. I had tried to create a 'duplicate' panels a couple of times but I gave up when I started to get warnings about incompatible connectivity as I added the 'duplicate' block assignments. However, bouyed up by your confirmation that it was possible, I proceeded to ignore the warnings and completely duplicate a simple layout.

Success!

I now wished that I had asked earlier as I had been trying to think of ways round the 'problem'! It turns out the answer was as straight forward as ignoring the warnings whilst finishing the panel.

Thanks again guys - I can now get on with displaying layouts in the best way for viewers and operators alike.

Andy

Is it possible to export the contents of the roster pane to an Excel spreadsheet? Thanks.

Jim K

Maybe these are only nuisance messages, but I spent half a day chasing symptoms of another problem intermixed with noise.

Using either of

• PanelPro version 4.16+R6f9aced
  
• PanelPro version 4.17.3+R12d2ded
  
  

with

• Java 1.8.0_221
  
• Windows 10
  
  

Starting the simplest Layout Editor Panel found on this computer and opening the web server:

2019-08-16 20:03:00,084 util.Log4JUtil                        INFO  - * JMRI log ** [main]
2019-08-16 20:03:00,115 util.Log4JUtil                        INFO  - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\cliffa\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2019-08-16 20:03:00,115 util.Log4JUtil                        INFO  - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\cliffa\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2019-08-16 20:03:00,146 apps.Apps                             INFO  - PanelPro version 4.17.3+R12d2ded starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 amd64 v10.0 at Fri Aug 16 20:03:00 PDT 2019 [main]
2019-08-16 20:03:24,476 apps.Apps                             INFO  - Starting with profile ABS_SML_01.3c61be79 [main]
2019-08-16 20:03:24,877 node.NodeIdentity                     INFO  - Using jmri-e83VKb5ZWhNiaa8bzu-rbc-3c61be79 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3c61be79 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
...

...
2019-08-16 20:03:41,303 PanelPro.PanelPro                     INFO  - Main initialization done [main]
2019-08-16 20:05:10,611 server.WebServer                      INFO  - Starting Web Server on port 12080 [WebServer]
2019-08-16 20:05:11,685 server.WebServer                      INFO  - Starting ZeroConfService _http._tcp.local for Web Server with properties {path=/, json=5.0.0} [WebServer]

When a browser opens a Tab rendering of the Layout Editor Panel, a message similar to these is issued for each turnout.

2019-08-16 20:07:14,154 json.JsonNamedBeanSocketService       WARN  - get request for turnout made with user name "Green East Ladder Right"; should use system name [WebServer-48]
2019-08-16 20:07:14,154 json.JsonNamedBeanSocketService       WARN  - get request for turnout made with user name "Green East Ladder Left"; should use system name [WebServer-48]

etc.

When a web rendering of a turnout icon is tapped, further warnings are issued.

2019-08-16 20:07:23,210 json.JsonNamedBeanSocketService       WARN  - post request for turnout made with user name "Green East Ladder Left"; should use system name [WebServer-47]
2019-08-16 20:07:30,834 json.JsonNamedBeanSocketService       WARN  - post request for turnout made with user name "Green East Ladder Right"; should use system name [WebServer-44]

These messages were not reproduced with the Panel Editor or the Control Panel Editor Panels on my computer.

Certainly this is not a critical problem, but I can reproduce this symptom with each of the Layout Editor Panels available to me.

Cliff in Baja SoCal

Ken,

? ? ?Seems that the set sensor command does not like a sensor name with a space in it.? If I just use the ("IS61") format is does set the sensor to active.? However,? ("Rockville East") gives it a problem.

? ? ?And what seems strange is that "Rockville East" is the user name for IS66, but it is IS61 tthat does not get set.? Does not add up.

Roger

Roger,

In that case, I don't run the 'set all' scripts. I look at the table after
loading and see how many are UNKNOWN. Also keep in mind for internal sensors
you can use the option in the table to see all of them to INACTIVE at panel
load time.

Next trick I do is the order of the startup actions. I'll place things like
loading the panel early but execution of scripts, I do that later in the
lineup. And for many of my panels, I don't use the
Edit->Preference->Startup, I use a route with the initializer. I put script
calls into it too. It generally turns into being a Logix and that gives even
more options to control how it sequences things.

But start with the presumption that everything tries to start at once unless
you have found something that says 'this after that' sort of sequence. Also
keep in mind that many things may be happening but the update of the display
is generally the last thing to happen. Internally it is all going on, but
you just won't see it until things get caught up.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

Ken,

? ? I was referring to my attempt to set these internal sensors to ACTIVE in the script.? I'm betting they are being set, but cleared by a startup function somewhere down the line before the last JMRI window pops up.

Roger

Roger,

Other things could be happening. On Digitrax systems there is a set of
command sent to ask for all sensors and turnouts to respond. As those
answers come in, things will change. A Route, with the Initializer option
set, is another good way to set things up. Also keep in mind the cascade
effect of some things. Example a turnout or block detector status comes in.
That triggers the signal logic which in turn sends commands to the signals.
And then the signals watching those signals see them change and may trigger
further changes.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

Gary,

The same track can have multiple purposes and definitions as long as the trains utilizing that track do not try to do so at the same time.? The software doesn't know or care if there are two physical tracks or a single track with multiple designations.? For your purpose, I would designate that siding as a Classification/Interchange track where only your A-B-C local is allowed to set out and only your A-B-A turn is allowed to pick up.? Then make sure that your options (I forget the exact terminology) allow for routing via multiple trains.? Also, the A-B-A turn must be able to handle local moves - another option you must set.? Then your local A-B-C can set out cars on the siding for the 7 spurs and the program will handle the logic (via the multiple trains and local moves options) to have A-B-A move the cars from the siding (designated as a Classification/Interchange track) to the spurs in the same town via local moves.? I am not sure that i got all of the details correct but I use this same strategy to sometimes use a siding as a classification/interchange track? to "turn" a local train.? My local 420 turns on a reverse loop (also used as a staging track for my MKT freight)? and terminates on the siding designated as a C/I track.? The the return trains, 421, builds from that same track and heads back the way it came.? On a C/I track, loads are not changed so this allows a local to work facing points in both directions.? You could do this with a single route but I don't believe you can change the train number with a single route.? Doing as I have above allows 420 to turn and become 421 for the return trip.
Dave...

Ted,

? ? Having trouble with setting a sensor active.? These four sensors I want set to active are Reverse and Forward sensors part of two Sections.? Maybe they are getting set then cleared when the program loads the Sections table.

? ? The script does work for clearing Unknown sensors.

Roger

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