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Locked Re: LE menu Bug

 

Mark,

Did you check the system console for errors?

Dave Sand

On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Mark Ziebell <cpunclejoe@...> wrote:

I was having some difficulty with the Layout Editor interface today using version 4.17.2
I am using Linux distro Lubuntu, Java shows as 11.0.4. Connections are defined as NCE Sim and CMRI sim with Nodes 0-3 defined.

When I launched PanelPro and created new Layout Editor panel, I was able to access each menu and add items to the panel without any problems. This included above ToolBar menu, and pop-up menus in the design area. Once I saved and restarted PanelPro, the menus were inaccessible. A mouse click would open the "drop-down" but a release of the mouse click closed the menu. Using Alt-[letter] also opened the menu, but mousing over items in the drop down simply closed the menu. Right-clicking on track elements in design area (to assign turnouts, blocks) would again open the menu to show options, but not allow any item to be selected for action.

I reverted back to 4.16 and created a new/different LE panel and all seems to be working fine.


Mark Z.


Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

Ken S,

So your log file (with 4.16) would be the result of either wrong port or a
cable problem. Minor chance of a driver issue. Just to confirm things, I'd
open up the Windows Device Manager and watch as you plug the USB into the
computer and remove it. Watching the COM port appear and disappear confirms
the COMx value. Also confirm the properties says the driver is working ok.

One trick about cables, if you remove the PowerCab and put the USB on that
cable (without moving the cable), should let the identify of the USB work at
startup. That's the line that would say 7.3.0 for the version and it
wouldn't complain about the AA command timing out and failing. Once that is
working, then we know the USB and cable to the computer is good. After that,
we try with the other cable and see if it will talk to the PowerCab.

Small steps is best for this sort of work when we are helping from around
the globe. Think of it as sneaking up on the real issue.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Engine Number Tracking for a Club

 

Larry,?
That method crossed our minds too since we have two digit club member numbers. Just not easy to use if we have to remember a club members number and a made up number.?
Do you have a cheat sheet or something that¡¯s readily available while you operate??

Wayne


Locked LE menu Bug

 

I was having some difficulty with the Layout Editor interface today using version 4.17.2
I am using Linux distro Lubuntu, Java shows as 11.0.4. Connections are defined as NCE Sim and CMRI sim with Nodes 0-3 defined.

When I launched PanelPro and created new Layout Editor panel, I was able to access each menu and add items to the panel without any problems.? This included above ToolBar menu, and pop-up menus in the design area.? Once I saved and restarted PanelPro, the menus were inaccessible.? A mouse click would open the "drop-down" but a release of the mouse click closed the menu.? Using Alt-[letter] also opened the menu, but mousing over items in the drop down simply closed the menu.? Right-clicking on track elements in design area (to assign turnouts, blocks) would again open the menu to show options, but not allow any item to be selected for action.

I reverted back to 4.16 and created a new/different LE panel and all seems to be working fine.


Mark Z.


Locked Re: Engine Number Tracking for a Club

 

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We require 4 digits.? The club assigns the first two, member picks the last two.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Wayne Swearingen
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] Engine Number Tracking for a Club

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Can someone share insight on what their club (or personal) is doing for tracking engines in JMRI for members who bring their own equipment to run? I know JMRI has groups/member list so that will make life a bit easier tracking engines in the software. I'm referring to engines numbers on the layout, what recommendations do you guys have for avoiding duplicates?? If there is a duplicate there's a chance it will be in a consist but I'm not sure JMRI will like a duplicate number in the roster. Is there an outline anywhere for recommended practices for a club??

We have our own run schedule. During a run we have freights called train 12 and train 16 (and a couple others I think) and passengers are single digit numbers. I figure if someone wants to bring an engine and use it in a freight or passenger consist that is easy enough as it will become part of the consist and be referred to by consist number. But I imagine others will bring their own and switch towns & etc and can see potential for duplicate engines.?

Wayne


Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

Hello,

Yes, I have NCE USB interface with a Powercab. Baud rate is 9,600 and I have
no jumpers on interface. As I said before this combination worked a year
ago. It only occurred when I tried to update JMRI version two weeks ago.

Ken S

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

Ken S,

Just to confirm things, you have a NCE-USB interface and you have a PowerCab
as the command station? If so, do you have any jumpers on the NCE-USB
interface? Generally the no jumpers and 9600 baud is the default and the all
jumpers on and 19,200 is the other frequent choice.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

4.17.2 still has the baud rate bug. You need 4.17.3 but it is not on the web site yet.

I am waiting on it also

Jim

On Aug 7, 2019, at 11:33, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:

Ken S,

Just to confirm things, you have a NCE-USB interface and you have a PowerCab
as the command station? If so, do you have any jumpers on the NCE-USB
interface? Generally the no jumpers and 9600 baud is the default and the all
jumpers on and 19,200 is the other frequent choice.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org






Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

Ken S,

Just to confirm things, you have a NCE-USB interface and you have a PowerCab
as the command station? If so, do you have any jumpers on the NCE-USB
interface? Generally the no jumpers and 9600 baud is the default and the all
jumpers on and 19,200 is the other frequent choice.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

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Hello,

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I updated to v4.17.2. Still no luck. When JMRI starts up green statement on bottom of screen says NCE online. When I pick a loco and try program on main JMRI says in red NCE off-line. Defaults are set for NCE baud is 9600. Here is System Log from 4.17.2.1:

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2019-08-07 12:24:02,603 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:02,618 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:02,618 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:02,634 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.17.2+Re9dde08 starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Aug 07 12:24:02 EDT 2019 [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:02,837 gui3.Apps3 ???????????????????????????INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,212 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-gC-QJc2vbhOiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f3718c5 [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,306 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,675 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4? port opened at 9600 baud [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,940 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,940 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,940 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,940 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,940 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:03,940 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 12:24:13,785 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 12:24:13,894 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 12:24:14,098 nce.NceMessage??????????????????????? ERROR - attempt to send unsupported binary command KILL_MAIN_CMD to NCE USB [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 12:24:14,410 nce.NceMessage??????????????????????? ERROR - attempt to send unsupported binary command KILL_MAIN_CMD to NCE USB [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 12:24:14,691 nce.NceMessage??????????????????????? ERROR - attempt to send unsupported binary command KILL_MAIN_CMD to NCE USB [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 12:24:23,897 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 12:24:24,006 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

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Thank you,

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Ken Skopp

Train Show Coordinator

Grand River Valley Railroad Club

616-667-9680

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan B. Pearce
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

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He¡¯s probably better off going to 4.17.3 or whatever the current development release is, rather than 4.16, to get around the baud setting bug, which appears to be what is clobbering his interface settings.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of whmvd
Sent: 07 August 2019 16:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

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Hi Ken,

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That's still 4.12, and therefore not very useful. You really need to get to 4.16, get the defaults set and saved, and run the test again. Then send the log and magic will happen. Well, probably. The people who are on it are unbeatable in their knowledge and helpfulness, but - you really need to do what they say they want done.

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Good luck,

Wouter

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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 13:39, Kenneth Skopp <kwskopp@...> wrote:

Hello,

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Preferences/Default all checked for NCE. V4.16. Here is System Log:

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2019-08-07 08:33:19,848 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:19,932 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:19,932 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:20,095 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Aug 07 08:33:20 EDT 2019 [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:20,349 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,051 node.NodeIdentity???????????? ????????INFO? - Using jmri-gC-QJc2vbhOiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,537 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,907 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4 port opened at 9600 baud [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????? ????INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:32,044 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:32,153 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:42,155 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:42,265 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:52,280 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:52,389 nce.NceConnectionStatus?? ????????????WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:02,396 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:02,505 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:12,512 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:12,621 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:22,623 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:22,732 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:32,734 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 6 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:32,844 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:42,845 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 7 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:42,954 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:52,969 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 8 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:53,079 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:03,080 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 9 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:03,180 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:13,184 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 10 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:13,293 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:23,305 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 11 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:23,414 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:33,421 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 12 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:33,531 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

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I apologize for being a complete novice when working with such a sophisticated program as JMRI.

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Thank you,

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Ken Skopp

Train Show Coordinator

Grand River Valley Railroad Club

616-667-9680

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Heap
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

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Ken,


On 7 Aug 2019, at 10:14 AM, Kenneth Skopp <kwskopp@...> wrote:

I upgraded to v4.16 after I got v4.12 to work. Now v4.16 won¡¯t work. I checked default under preferences and NCE is chosen for all options not internal. I deleted 4.16 and installed 4.12 and it does not allow me to install new locomotive.

NCE is selected under default for 4.12.

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Reverting to 4.12 will just ensure that you get the problem again, possibly now and definitely in the future!

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Don't delete anything or change any connection settings. You are just making it much more difficult for both you and us.

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Simply run the 4.16 installer again (over the top of V4.12). Check Preferences->Defaults to make sure all are set to NCE. Don't change any other settings. Try what you tried last time and send us the log. We can tell a huge amount from the log.

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Dave in Australia

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Locked Re: Benefits of running a Rpi

 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 01:32 AM, Roger Merritt wrote:
What are you guys doing about shut down of the pi?
If running EngineDriver on Android, install SSH button and use it to send a shutdown command to the R-Pi. There may be a similar app for iOS.


Locked Re: Benefits of running a Rpi

 

While the 'big' computer runs most of the layout (read Intel NUC) we have deployed the Pi as the roster system for our active locos and cars (700 and 2000 respectively) with JMRI DecoderPro and Operations.? Another Pi runs the 'back end' of our yards and 2 engine service facilities with 'virtual' panels for ladder routing and reverse loops (accessed through the JMRI Web server) connected to a growing set of LCC components (multiple Towerman and SMD8/FOB combos.)? ?This system starts with the layout and is manually shutdown at the end of operations (VNC from the main computer).

All the systems connect via an internal WiFi.

Martin
pmrrm.org


Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

One issue with 4.16 is that there may be a baud rate issue when installed.
Some combinations work fine, other fail. There are ways to deal with it, the
issue is it either blanking the baud rate in the profile.xml data or not
reading it successfully. The result is JMRI will use what it thinks the
'default' rate for the interface and that isn't always correct. So expecting
instant success isn't right. Reviewing the console log will tell what it
ended up doing. From that we can point to correcting it, if the baud rate
issue happens.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

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He¡¯s probably better off going to 4.17.3 or whatever the current development release is, rather than 4.16, to get around the baud setting bug, which appears to be what is clobbering his interface settings.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of whmvd
Sent: 07 August 2019 16:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

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Hi Ken,

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That's still 4.12, and therefore not very useful. You really need to get to 4.16, get the defaults set and saved, and run the test again. Then send the log and magic will happen. Well, probably. The people who are on it are unbeatable in their knowledge and helpfulness, but - you really need to do what they say they want done.

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Good luck,

Wouter

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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 13:39, Kenneth Skopp <kwskopp@...> wrote:

Hello,

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Preferences/Default all checked for NCE. V4.16. Here is System Log:

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2019-08-07 08:33:19,848 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:19,932 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:19,932 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:20,095 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Aug 07 08:33:20 EDT 2019 [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:20,349 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,051 node.NodeIdentity???????????? ????????INFO? - Using jmri-gC-QJc2vbhOiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,537 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,907 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4 port opened at 9600 baud [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????? ????INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:32,044 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:32,153 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:42,155 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:42,265 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:52,280 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:52,389 nce.NceConnectionStatus?? ????????????WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:02,396 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:02,505 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:12,512 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:12,621 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:22,623 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:22,732 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:32,734 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 6 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:32,844 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:42,845 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 7 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:42,954 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:52,969 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 8 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:53,079 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:03,080 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 9 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:03,180 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:13,184 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 10 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:13,293 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:23,305 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 11 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:23,414 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:33,421 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 12 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:33,531 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

?

I apologize for being a complete novice when working with such a sophisticated program as JMRI.

?

Thank you,

?

Ken Skopp

Train Show Coordinator

Grand River Valley Railroad Club

616-667-9680

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Heap
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

?

Ken,


On 7 Aug 2019, at 10:14 AM, Kenneth Skopp <kwskopp@...> wrote:

I upgraded to v4.16 after I got v4.12 to work. Now v4.16 won¡¯t work. I checked default under preferences and NCE is chosen for all options not internal. I deleted 4.16 and installed 4.12 and it does not allow me to install new locomotive.

NCE is selected under default for 4.12.

?

Reverting to 4.12 will just ensure that you get the problem again, possibly now and definitely in the future!

?

Don't delete anything or change any connection settings. You are just making it much more difficult for both you and us.

?

Simply run the 4.16 installer again (over the top of V4.12). Check Preferences->Defaults to make sure all are set to NCE. Don't change any other settings. Try what you tried last time and send us the log. We can tell a huge amount from the log.

?

Dave in Australia

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Locked Re: DCS52, Loksound Select, JMRI Eror 308 during identify decoder

 

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Hi Dave,


Yes, so I was able to confirm that changing to Direct Byte mode corrected the issue without any problem and we can now read the decoders on the programming track of the DCS52 in either Dedicated Programmer Mode or Zephyr Express Mode.


One thing I am struggling to setup is setting Direct Byte mode to be the default programming method vs Paged, so that when people come along to read the decoders, they don't get frustrated that things aren't reading, when they forget to change that. Is there a way to set this somehow, as i didn't see it in the preferences.


Seeing as paged mode won't work with ESU decoders, and Direct Byte mode will work with all decoders, I was hoping that there was a way to set this in my preferences somehow?


James



On August 4, 2019 at 10:51 PM Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:

James,
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On 5 Aug 2019, at 12:10 PM, James Koretsky < jameskoretsky@...> wrote:

Can CV's be read in Direct Mode, and is this true for all decoder brands, trying to idiot proof how to do this, without having to switch between paged and direct mode?

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Almost (if not) all modern decoders support Direct mode programming (read/write). Direct mode is very much faster and (for many DCC systems and decoders) gives more reliable results. JMRI is coded to know what mode(s) each decoder definition supports.

Most modern DCC systems support Direct mode. JMRI is coded to know what mode(s) each system supports) and in many cases the list has been ordered to prioritise the fastest.

Trying to read a modern ESU decoder in Paged mode can take an hour or more depending on DCC system. A V4/Select has ~1,000 CVs and a LokSound 5 has ~2,000 CVs.

Dave in Australia


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Locked Re: Cannot run NCE on JMRI

 

Hi Ken,

That's still 4.12, and therefore not very useful. You really need to get to 4.16, get the defaults set and saved, and run the test again. Then send the log and magic will happen. Well, probably. The people who are on it are unbeatable in their knowledge and helpfulness, but - you really need to do what they say they want done.

Good luck,
Wouter


On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 13:39, Kenneth Skopp <kwskopp@...> wrote:

Hello,

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Preferences/Default all checked for NCE. V4.16. Here is System Log:

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2019-08-07 08:33:19,848 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:19,932 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:19,932 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:20,095 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Aug 07 08:33:20 EDT 2019 [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:20,349 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,051 node.NodeIdentity???????????? ????????INFO? - Using jmri-gC-QJc2vbhOiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,537 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:21,907 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4 port opened at 9600 baud [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????? ????INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:22,339 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-08-07 08:33:32,044 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:32,153 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:42,155 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:42,265 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:52,280 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:33:52,389 nce.NceConnectionStatus?? ????????????WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:02,396 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:02,505 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:12,512 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:12,621 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:22,623 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:22,732 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:32,734 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 6 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:32,844 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:42,845 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 7 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:42,954 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:52,969 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 8 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:34:53,079 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:03,080 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 9 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:03,180 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:13,184 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 10 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:13,293 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:23,305 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 11 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:23,414 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:33,421 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 12 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2019-08-07 08:35:33,531 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

?

I apologize for being a complete novice when working with such a sophisticated program as JMRI.

?

Thank you,

?

Ken Skopp

Train Show Coordinator

Grand River Valley Railroad Club

616-667-9680

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Heap
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Cannot run NCE on JMRI

?

Ken,


On 7 Aug 2019, at 10:14 AM, Kenneth Skopp <kwskopp@...> wrote:

I upgraded to v4.16 after I got v4.12 to work. Now v4.16 won¡¯t work. I checked default under preferences and NCE is chosen for all options not internal. I deleted 4.16 and installed 4.12 and it does not allow me to install new locomotive.

NCE is selected under default for 4.12.

?

Reverting to 4.12 will just ensure that you get the problem again, possibly now and definitely in the future!

?

Don't delete anything or change any connection settings. You are just making it much more difficult for both you and us.

?

Simply run the 4.16 installer again (over the top of V4.12). Check Preferences->Defaults to make sure all are set to NCE. Don't change any other settings. Try what you tried last time and send us the log. We can tell a huge amount from the log.

?

Dave in Australia

?


Locked DCC++, Raspberry Pi, and JMRI #arduino #rpi #dccpp

 

I am running the latest version of Steve Todd's (thank you Steve!!!) DCC++ image.? Only using PanelPro for all JMRI activities.? I can easily create throttles, turnouts, and run with python programs.? I cannot get JMRI to sense any of the four NCE BD20's in the layout.? While it appears I can create the turnouts in JRMI, JMRI senses nothing.? A test with a multimeter shows that the voltage drops from about 4.25 volts to 0.005 or 0.000 when a locomotive enters the block.

The BD20's are powered by the 5v and Gnd on the Motor Shield.? Each of the BD20's logic+ is connected to an "open" digital i/o pin on the Motor Shield pins 2, 4, 6, and 7 (see ).? These pins are mapped to Hardware IDs 8, 10, 12, and 13 when the sensors are setup.? I even tried setting up sensors for every possible pin of the Motor Shield.

I have tried numerous times deleting and re-creating the sensors in JMRI.? I always test to assure that the logic+ of the block containing the locomotive has dropped to zero.? My conclusion is that for some reason, the sensors aren't working in the current version of DCC++ & JRMI.

Hoping someone here can put me in my place and tell me what stupid thing I have forgotten or gotten wrong.


Locked Re: Benefits of running a Rpi

 

Don't just turn the power off.? You risk corruption of the file allocation tables which are critical to how the SD card file structure is maintained.

Shutdown JMRI normally.

Open a terminal window:

Do a "sudo sync"
Then? "sudo shutdown -h now"


Locked Re: Benefits of running a Rpi

 

Dave,

? ? I'm seeing now quicker shut down times.? Takes about 5 secs for JMRI to shut down, unless a wireless throttle is still attached then it takes 15 secs.? So now I'm seeing about 55-60 secs to shut down.

Roger


Locked Re: Benefits of running a Rpi

 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Ken Cameron wrote:

What surprises me is with the number of other hats for these things, nobody
has made a board with a bunch of supercaps for a clean shutdown
automatically. It would detect the power supply going away and then start
the shutdown. I think a board with five minutes of supply would cover 99% of
the users. Yet I've never heard one mentioned.
Ken,

A youtube video to do just that.



--
Peter Ulvestad

JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -


Locked Re: Benefits of running a Rpi

 

Ken,

In Roger¡¯s post, the shutdown takes 25 seconds. He included the 1 minute delay before the shutdown occurs.

Dave Sand

On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:

With respect to file activity, the console is always being logged to the
file session.log and messages.log.1 from JMRI. Yes it isn't doing much, but
there are writes happening from time to time. I'm surprised a 3b+ took that
long to shutdown.

What surprises me is with the number of other hats for these things, nobody
has made a board with a bunch of supercaps for a clean shutdown
automatically. It would detect the power supply going away and then start
the shutdown. I think a board with five minutes of supply would cover 99% of
the users. Yet I've never heard one mentioned.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org