Thanks for that Paul. I chose not to draw the distinction for simplicity but you are correct of course.
Dave

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Dave/Nigel,

On Jul 31, 2019, at 6:26 AM, Dave Roberts <dccdaveroberts@...> wrote:
A turnout actually has three states:
The two you are already familiar with - when the turnout is at either end of its travel - it’s Open or Closed position or Normal and Reversed. The third state is whilst the point is actually changing from one state to the other. This is the Unknown or Inconsistent state.

A minor point of correction, Unknown and Inconsistent are distinct states, so there are actually 4 states for JMRI turnouts.

Unknown means that we really don’t know what the state is. On a turnout with feedback, that generally means we have not received feedback from the feedback mechanism.

Inconsistent means the state is in transition, but hasn’t yet stabilized. On a turnout with a feedback sensor at both ends of travel, this means the feedback indicates the turnout is between the two endpoints.

Paul

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Nigel, what do you mean by “supporting arrangement”?

Hi Dave

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The key issue is this:

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?When I set the turnouts up individually with feedback they work properly with the 3 states as you describe.

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When I add the two working turnouts to the layout in the “supporting arrangement” it is then that they stop working properly.

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Nigel

One that bugs me is the is the WIFI Throttle screen. It only shows a few connections and if you enlarge it to see all the connected phones it will stay that way for a short while then just revert back to it's small size.

Problem with WiThrottle has been fixed in version 4.16.

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There are a few other places where there is a similar occurrence of a resized view reverts back to the original compressed view. One that bugs me is the is the WIFI Throttle screen. It only shows a few connections and if you enlarge it to see all the connected phones it will stay that way for a short while then just revert back to it's small size.

Ken:

No problem. Thanks for letting us know. It's the main lesson of trouble shooting... Even if you're sure something is good... or worse yet was good... I just had an ?SD card make me crazy, it died on the second load of the Raspberry Pi operating system while testing a new Pi... Oh yes, it happens to all of us...

Jim Albanowski

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Nigel,

It has active circuitry in it that talks the (fast and interactive) USB protocol on one end, converting that from and two the simpler and non-interactive RS-232 serial signals. It’s definitely not pin-to-pin. With some computers, you’ll even have to install a driver for it.

Bob

On Jul 30, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Don Weigt <dweigt47@...> wrote:

One last question: can anyone tell me what the USB to serial cable does? Is it simply wired from pins on one end to pins on the other? Or, does it need some active circuitry to shift levels to work with the EasyDCC Command Station serial port?

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Getting better all the time Dan; thanks!

I have question about programming in DecoderPro. I have a HP laptop Windows 10 and a SPROG II V3 and SPROG power supply connected to a programming track. This system is used for programming only. I don't know when it happened but I was checking a DigiTrax SDHX166D sound decoder. I tried to change CV 60 to another sound file which I was able to do but the columns with the Read, Write were missing the whole section with those columns is blank. The sheets such as sound, basic, motor etc. do not have write sheet and other tabs missing. Any changed that are made can't be written. I decided to upgrade to 14.7.2 test version and the same happens with the upgrade. I don't know when this happened but it could be that a MS upgrade caused this. I have not used the program in a while for programming but have used it to test locomotives without programming. I appreciate any help but advised that I'm not into programming so need instruction on how to proceed.

Al Babinsky



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Victor, Thanks again for your help, and again for everyone else's!.

I'm going to end this thread for now. We've wandered far from whether it was possible for Decoder Pro to program SoundTraxx decoders through my EasyDCC system. The good news is it should be fine: others are doing it.

Today I got my Pi showing JMRI on a monitor, loaded your suggested VNC on my laptop, and got it connected to the Pi! After that, and more reading of Steve's instructions, I managed to load my existing unfinished panel files on the Pi, and it's displaying my LE panel now. Phew! I didn't need to buy a keyboard, nor use my old Netgear router, either....

A few issues remain.The Pi wants Loconet, not CMR/I and complained about all my turnout and sensor designators. I don't yet have it connected to my EasyDCC. I also didn't get my tablet to connect and display the panel, too. But, all told, it's been a pretty good day!

Time for dinner, and to let the old 'gray matter" cool down!?? :--)

Don Weigt
Connecticut

I have a question about compatibility of turnouts with feedback and turnouts that have a second physical device or supporting turnout configured.
Up until now I have happily run the system without configuring the feedback from the turnouts.
Having the feedback working solves several issues particularly around initial state of the layout.
So a simple turnout with 2 point feedback works a treat and does what you expect.

BUT when I apply feedback to two turnouts and configure them on the panel to be supporting as you find in a crossover, problems start occurring.

Firstly the turnout config pop up hangs when you try to save it and cancelling it, defaults to previous setting.
If you switch off the supporting tick box and then configure the turnouts and then put the supporting tick box back on another problem occurs.
The turnout status sometimes becomes inconsistent and often just wrong.

I am assuming the code is having a problem dealing with two sets of feedback for one object.

Is this something anyone else has tried and is there an easy way to get this to work.

I am on V4.16.

That should be

jmri.NamedBean

on the 19th line, not

jmri.namedBean

(Upper case N)

Bob

On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Petr ?ídlo via Groups.Io <sidlo64@...> wrote:

I have simple script

# Siglet_SX.py

import jarray
import jmri

class Siglet_SX(jmri.jmrit.automat.Siglet) :
def defineIO(self):
self.S1 = masts.getSignalMast("S1")
self.setInputs(jarray.array([self.S1], jmri.namedBean))
return

def setOutput(self):
self.S = masts.getSignalMast("S")
self.VOLNO = "Volno"
self.S.setAspect(self.VOLNO)
return

# start
Siglet_SX().start()


When I run it, I got error message:

2019-07-30 22:07:33,987 jython.InputWindow ERROR - Error executing script [AWT-EventQueue-0]
javax.script.ScriptException: AttributeError: 'javapackage' object has no attribute 'namedBean' in <script> at line number 19
at org.python.jsr223.PyScriptEngine.scriptException(PyScriptEngine.java:202)
...
Caused by: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<script>", line 19, in <module>
File "<script>", line 9, in defineIO
AttributeError: 'javapackage' object has no attribute 'namedBean'

at org.python.core.Py.AttributeError(Py.java:205)
...
... 41 more

I don't undertund it.
Where am I making mistake?

thanks

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I've also fixed the edit schedules table so that will be saved correctly in the next test release.

Dan

I have simple script

# Siglet_SX.py

import jarray
import jmri

class Siglet_SX(jmri.jmrit.automat.Siglet) :
??? def defineIO(self):???????
??????? self.S1 = masts.getSignalMast("S1")
??????? self.setInputs(jarray.array([self.S1], jmri.namedBean))
??????? return
???
??? def setOutput(self):
??????? self.S = masts.getSignalMast("S")
??????? self.VOLNO = "Volno"
??????? self.S.setAspect(self.VOLNO)
??????? return

# start
Siglet_SX().start()


When I run it, I got error message:

2019-07-30 22:07:33,987 jython.InputWindow??????????????????? ERROR - Error executing script [AWT-EventQueue-0]
javax.script.ScriptException: AttributeError: 'javapackage' object has no attribute 'namedBean' in <script> at line number 19
??? at org.python.jsr223.PyScriptEngine.scriptException(PyScriptEngine.java:202)
??? ...
Caused by: Traceback (most recent call last):
? File "<script>", line 19, in <module>
? File "<script>", line 9, in defineIO
AttributeError: 'javapackage' object has no attribute 'namedBean'

??? at org.python.core.Py.AttributeError(Py.java:205)
??? ...
??? ... 41 more

I don't undertund it.
Where am I making mistake?

thanks

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Petr ?ídlo
Czech Republic