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Re: Storing roster (and other) files under different customized names
Joern: Think of the JMRI Roster panel as the index of files for decoders. Just like on a computer file management system, you can add, delete, copy (duplicate) and rename decoder entries. So as Mick says, "save as" is just duplicating an entry and the duplicating process requires you to enter a new unique name for the new decoder entry. A single physical decoder can be entered as many times as you want different sets of CVs for it. When you have chosen the one you want to keep you can delete the rest. You can even group the decoders, for example, into "final" and "draft" and display only the "final" if you want to keep all the draft versions but not clutter up the roster panel.
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If I post a message, does an answer automatically go to my email? Right now all entries are showing up in my email. Any way to ONLY get answers to my posts to go to my email? Thanks.?
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Re: Storing roster (and other) files under different customized names
But there is an equivalent of Save As! ?From the foster, right click and Duplicate.....
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Re: Storing roster (and other) files under different customized names
If you have saved it in the roster, then you can write that to the decoder without any concern about the filename. Open that roster entry and write it to the decoder. I always manage my decoders through the roster and not from the files themselves.?
Maybe I dont understand your needs.? Tom Wilson
Colorado Springs, CO
Bob?
Why has there been a lot of trouble taken to _hide_ filenames from people? Can't understand that.
I tried to explain in my original post, that if I have different programming states of which I like one particularly, then I should be able to rewrite that one to the decoder. But I can't tell from the files which one that was. All I have is the current state and the one before. Everything else is lost for good!
Did you ever program an ESU decoder? Then you know what i'm talking about.
I'm sorry if my english isn't good enough to explain myself in a better way.
Regards
Joern
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Bob?
Why has there been a lot of trouble taken to _hide_ filenames from people? Can't understand that.
I tried to explain in my original post, that if I have different programming states of which I like one particularly, then I should be able to rewrite that one to the decoder. But I can't tell from the files which one that was. All I have is the current state and the one before. Everything else is lost for good!
Did you ever program an ESU decoder? Then you know what i'm talking about.
I'm sorry if my english isn't good enough to explain myself in a better way.
Regards
Joern
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Yes, you nailed my issue. Thanks very much, Peter. I don't know why I didn't try this. Now I will probably have more questions about how to populate the details of each Logix entry. Will try to work them out till I'm stuck. Thanks again
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Test version 4.15.7 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download
Test version 4.15.7 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download.
This is the next in a series of test releases that will culminate in a production release, hopefully in late June 2019.
We're getting close to the end of the development series, so we'd appreciate feedback on whether or not this release works for your layout.
If you are currently using JMRI 4.9.6 or earlier, we strongly recommend that you first update to JMRI 4.12 and make sure that's running OK before updating to this test release. There have been a number of changes in serial port support, panel file format and configuration options since those earlier releases, and moving to the stable JMRI 4.12 release is a good way to work through any possible problems.
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If you use JMRI on Linux or Mac and are updating from JMRI 4.7.3 or earlier, there¡¯s a necessary migration step. (Not needed on Windows) Please see the JMRI 4.12 release note for details: <>
For more information on the issues, new features and bug fixes in 4.15.7 please see the release note:
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Note that JMRI is made available under the GNU General Public License. For more information, please see our copyright and licensing page.
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Why do you care about the filename? Is there some reason you need to address the file directly? There¡¯s been a lot of trouble taken to _hide_ filenames from people, so they can just think about the roster itself. So if there¡¯s something missing that requires you to look up the file, we should work on that. Bob On Jun 2, 2019, at 5:56 AM, Dr. Joern Behnke <joern.behnke@...> wrote:
@ Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
I have been using SPROG together with JMRI DecoderPro 4.15.6 for some weeks now and find both very helpful.
But - in my way of looking - there is one real drawback in the software:
You can't store roster files under an informative name you pick yourself. Only a file *.xml is created for the current state of decoder-programming plus a file *.xml.bak which describes the last but one state. A command "save as ...." is missing !
For instance once you program a decoder and deal with BEMF many trials are necessary to find the final solution.Oftimes trial no.5 proves to be better than trial no.10. But you will not find the corresponding file no.5, all you have is no.10.xml and no.9.xml.bak.
The LokProgrammer of ESU is a good example of how to create different files for different states of programming a decoder.
This is just a suggestion, perhaps it could be implemented in futureJMRI software releases. -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Dan K,
Can you clarify what you mean by configuration? There are many parts of the
total configuration. Some are application behavior, system connection, data
location, etc..
The panels are usually viewed separate from the other configuration details.
Yes, one depends heavily on the other. One example of dependent but separate
would be two profiles, one with active system connections, the other with
simulated system connections, both using the same panels and scripts.
One method is where one panel was build offline from the layout and used all
Internal or simulated parts, but had usernames for all parts. Then a second
panel was developed at the layout that learned all the real hardware from
the layout, it didn't have user names but had details in the comment field.
Then at a later point they get merged by reading both in on one profile.
Within that new panel file all the user named parts get 'Moved' to the real
hardware parts. Then all the old extra stuff gets deleted. So all the work
and logic of the one now is ready for the real hardware.
So if you could clarify what you mean and need, I think we can help.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Tom
I have been doing this also.
The change will not show in the filename, only once you open the *.xml file. then you can find it in the text. In the roster sheet it shows as well, not in file manager..
Regards
Joern.
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Joern
I do this regularly by appending some descriptor to the name of the locomotive before I do a "save to roster".?? Tom Wilson
Colorado Springs, CO
@ Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
I have been using SPROG together with JMRI DecoderPro 4.15.6 for some weeks now and find both very helpful.
But? - in my way of looking - there is one real drawback in the software:
You can't store roster files under an informative name you pick yourself. Only a file *.xml is created for the current state of decoder-programming plus a file *.xml.bak which describes the last but one state. A command? "save as ...." is missing !
For instance once you program a decoder and deal with BEMF many trials are necessary to find the final solution.Oftimes trial no.5 proves to be better than trial no.10. But you will not find the corresponding file no.5, all you have is no.10.xml and no.9.xml.bak.
The LokProgrammer of ESU is a good example of how to create different files for different states of programming a decoder.
This is just a suggestion, perhaps it could be implemented in futureJMRI software releases.
Kind regards
Joern
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If I understand your issue correctly, in the logix table for the entry you wish to view click on select at the right for that entry and it will give you several options
Edit
Browse
copy
Delete
Click Edit to modify, it will bring up the screens you saw when you created the logix
Click Browse and it will bring up a different screen that just shows the logix. You can't make any changes here.
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Hello. I am just beginning here and am trying to work through? the excellent June 2012 3-part tutorials by R. Bucklew ()
I am getting lost in tutorial 2, where the Logix are being set up. It looks like you create an entry for the logix table and add conditions and actions etc to the entry (Tutorial Part 2, pages 17-23), then add the entry to the Logix Table. One basic question I have is: once the entry is in the Logix Table, I can't find a way to look at the associated conditionals again.?
That's a basic conundrum. Then I have some questions about the details on those pages 17-23, but I think I can work through them if only I had a way of going back to look at the conditionals etc. Thanks.
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Help files are provided with JMRI as well as being available at jmri.org
Both of these are up to date to current version.
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Storing roster (and other) files under different customized names
@ Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
I have been using SPROG together with JMRI DecoderPro 4.15.6 for some weeks now and find both very helpful.
But? - in my way of looking - there is one real drawback in the software:
You can't store roster files under an informative name you pick yourself. Only a file *.xml is created for the current state of decoder-programming plus a file *.xml.bak which describes the last but one state. A command? "save as ...." is missing !
For instance once you program a decoder and deal with BEMF many trials are necessary to find the final solution.Oftimes trial no.5 proves to be better than trial no.10. But you will not find the corresponding file no.5, all you have is no.10.xml and no.9.xml.bak.
The LokProgrammer of ESU is a good example of how to create different files for different states of programming a decoder.
This is just a suggestion, perhaps it could be implemented in futureJMRI software releases.
Kind regards
Joern
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Hi all
I am continuing the Signaling Basics series in today's video: ABS, APB, Moving Blocks, and CTC.
Have a nice day
Hans
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Hi guys,
I run for long time JMRI different versions? ?under Netbeans? IDE? .today for some reason i got this error? ?and? after some time the? process freeze and stop working and output an error? popup window? ? I attached the log file? and the error? window? in "problems being worked on / doron problem " . I Tried? to close the project? and open other one? with some results .,uninstall the java and re install? .? with? no results . I try to run? a PanelPro? exe file and had no problem
Any idea ?
Java 1.8
JMRI ver 4.15.3,? ?2.4.3
Doron
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Dave from Mount Joy, On 2 Jun 2019, at 1:52 AM, Video7105 <video7105@...> wrote:
Thinking Dave down under, had to many Kangaroo Juices. It wasn't the Kangaroo Juices (we brew good craft beers down under), although I had partaken of a very small number. It was more likely due to my having driven over 400km that day. (When I was only a few years younger a typical long day's drive was 800-900km, but I don't need to do that any longer.) Just teasing. Thank for all the help you provide to this forum Thanks. Dave in Australia
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On Jun 1, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Randall Wood via Groups.Io < rhwood@...> wrote: You want to do two things:
- In your profile, using PanelPro, under "Preferences->Start Up", you want to add an Open File (pointing to your Turntable.xml file) and Run Script action (referring to your script)
- Use the command "/opt/JMRI/jmriHeadless --profile=/home/brian/.jmri/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri" (the config option points to instructions about which profile to use if --profile is not specified, and the profile is a directory with a potentially large number of files).
You may also want to consider:
- Use VNC, not X-over-SSH, to access your Raspberry Pi -- this way, once you configure the default account to auto-login, PanelPro can be configured to be automatically launched by that user, and you can use VNC to connect to the running instance of PanelPro instead of only being able to launch PanelPro after you connect with Putty.
You can also configure the Raspberry Pi to automatically login as a user and start JMRI in headless mode. ?see, for example?.
The link above mentions executing a script at login. ?This can be a simple call to start JMRI with the appropriate options.
There is some advantage to this, primarily a slight reduction in processor and memory usage ( due to not drawing the GUI ). ?In a memory constrained setting, conservation of memory can be important.
Paul
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Hi Tom,
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Thanks for your reply. I will do what you suggested.
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Many thanks,
Warren
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If you are looking for a printable pdf, on the Jmri website> manuals tab
at the top>far left edge is a pdf for 3.4
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After that its all online as best as I know.
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Tom Wilson
Colorado Springs,
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Hi,
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I¡¯ve just updated to version 4.14 and looking for a ¡°User¡¯s Guide¡± for
version 4.14
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I had an old User¡¯s Guide for version 2.12 and found it very useful but I
cannot find a similar Guide for version 4.14
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I¡¯ve searched for? Manuals for 4.14 but can only find basic
information not the comprehensive notes in my old ¡°Guide.¡±
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I¡¯m running Windows 7 and a SPROG Mk 2 and everything appears to be
working OK but I miss the detailed information in my 2.12 Guide.
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If there is no ¡°Guide¡± for Version 4.14, what is the most recent ¡°guide¡±
available ?
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Any help would be gratefully received.
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Regards,
Warren
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