At our club we have a windows 7 32 bit computer loaded with Decoder Pro 4.12 with the latest JAVA for 32 bit. It is connected through USB com port 4 to a Digitrax DCS 240, Decoder Pro set as a PR3 connection. We can read and right to decoders, but the throttle will not control a locomotive. Digitrax throttles work.?
?I select the locomotive and throttle up but nothing happens.
?What am I doing wrong?
Richard Webster
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I'm thinking about using Arduino Mega modules. These have 54 I/O ports available at a lower cost than CMRI hardware and also can be programmed to implement logic locally. The Ethernet connection only consumes 4 ports.
I may end up with an RS485 bus, but I still would like an answer my question if someone can supply that.
Thanks much,
Jerry
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Jerry,
Why the high number of connections instead of being nodes on a bus? Given
the usual cost of interfaces for the connections, it adds up kind of fast
for most hardware.
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Jerry,
Why multiple connections ? CMRI uses a piggyback connection for the RS232/485 communications buss. All you need is one comm port connection to accommodate any number of CMRI nodes. The system is designed for multiple nodes.
I used both DCC accessory decoders using a USB connector for my DCC system and a CMRI system with a SUSIC and 10 nodes all connected to one comm port adapter. I operate on several large layouts using CMRI and none requires more than one USB/RS232/485 adapter. I have designed systems using 7 Smini nodes (48 outputs and 24 inputs per Smini) which is smaller than some of the layouts I operate on. No need to use more than one comm port connection.
Most of the layouts I operate on use "scrapper" computers too old to use for modern high speed programs but quite capable of controlling signaling on large layouts without any noticeable delay in response time.
Have you had an opportunity to read any of the CMRI manuals yet or have you already purchased the hardware ? I strongly suggest you do that before trying the "multiple" connection project. It might save you money and time.
Regards, Nick Kulp? ?
Hi,
I would like to know what the limitations are to using a large number of connections to JMRI. I'm looking at defining in the area of 10 CMRI connections using either USB or Ethernet to connect to Arduino modules. Each connection will have only a single node defined.? I think this should give me enough I/O to build a signaling system for a fairly large layout. Is there a limit to the number of connections JMRI will handle? Are there other drawbacks to this approach such as response times?
Thanks in advance,
Jerry
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Hi,
I would like to know what the limitations are to using a large number of connections to JMRI. I'm looking at defining in the area of 10 CMRI connections using either USB or Ethernet to connect to Arduino modules. Each connection will have only a single node defined.? I think this should give me enough I/O to build a signaling system for a fairly large layout. Is there a limit to the number of connections JMRI will handle? Are there other drawbacks to this approach such as response times?
Thanks in advance,
Jerry
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HO/HOn3 vs OperationsPro
I have an HO/HOn3 layout and have successfully built trains for the narrow gauge portion of the layout. I¡¯m new to JMRI and do not have a strong computer background. I am now trying to integrate the standard gauge operations. Reading the manual, it looks like I need to build a second profile. Therein lies my problem. When I get to the Config profile screen it is not clear what needs to be done. I also can¡¯t find the profile for the narrow gauge. Any assistance the group can provide is greatly appreciated.
Phil
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Re: Newbie control panel file question
Don,
Select Panels >> Save Panels... from the main PanelPro window. ?There are other locations but this one always works.
Dave Sand
On Jul 19, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Don Weigt <dweigt47@...> wrote:
Sorry to bother you about this, but here goes: I have an embarrassingly basic question, it's about control panel but probably applies to other JMRI?functions as well...
I attempted to create a control panel file. I gave it a new name and tried to save it. I couldn't find a way! When I tried to close it, I was warned it wasn't?saved. I wanted to save it, but how is it done?
As you probably guessed, I'm JMRI and Linux ignorant. But, hey, we all have to start sometime and somewhere!
Don Weigt
Bloomfield, CT
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Sorry to bother you about this, but here goes: I have an embarrassingly basic question, it's about control panel but probably applies to other JMRI functions as well...
I attempted to create a control panel file. I gave it a new name and tried to save it. I couldn't find a way! When I tried to close it, I was warned it wasn't saved. I wanted to save it, but how is it done?
As you probably guessed, I'm JMRI and Linux ignorant. But, hey, we all have to start sometime and somewhere!
Don Weigt Bloomfield, CT
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Re: Detection going crazy
Sounds like maybe your cab bus is underpowered? You mentioned adding boosters? But there is still only one command station and unless I¡¯m mistaken that is the only source of power unless there are additional ¡°wall wart¡± type power supplies added to the cab bus at various plug in points.?
Also watch out for cab address 63 for AIU¡¯s as have found that to cause erratic updates or no updates to the cab bus clock.?
Mark Z
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Re: Decoder Pro returns 123 for all decoder settings
... and upgrade to 4.12 - what you're encountering is a typical 4.10 problem, and it will happen again (and again).
Wouter
On 19 July 2018 at 20:34, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote: Bob,
Make sure that LocoNet is selected in Preferences >> Defaults.
Dave Sand
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:30 PM, nebrzephyr via Groups.Io <nebrzephyr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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> OK, using DP V4.2 and LocoBuffer-USB and WIN10.
> Haven't used DP in several months. The last time I used it it was working properly. Today the problem is that when trying to read values from a decoder, DP returns the value of 123 for all fields/all pages. Have verified that LocoBuffer-USB is installed correctly. The decoders (multiple) operate properly on the MAIN, all functions. So I think I have eliminated the decoders and LocoBuffer-USB as the problem.
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> Any thought? Thanks. Bob
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Bob,
Make sure that LocoNet is selected in Preferences >> Defaults.
Dave Sand
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On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:30 PM, nebrzephyr via Groups.Io <nebrzephyr@...> wrote:
OK, using DP V4.2 and LocoBuffer-USB and WIN10.
Haven't used DP in several months. The last time I used it it was working properly. Today the problem is that when trying to read values from a decoder, DP returns the value of 123 for all fields/all pages. Have verified that LocoBuffer-USB is installed correctly. The decoders (multiple) operate properly on the MAIN, all functions. So I think I have eliminated the decoders and LocoBuffer-USB as the problem.
Any thought? Thanks. Bob
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OK, using DP V4.2 and LocoBuffer-USB and WIN10.
Haven't used DP in several months. The last time I used it it was working properly. Today the problem is that when trying to read values from a decoder, DP returns the value of 123 for all fields/all pages. Have verified that LocoBuffer-USB is installed correctly. The decoders (multiple) operate properly on the MAIN, all functions. So I think I have eliminated the decoders and LocoBuffer-USB as the problem.
Any thought? Thanks. Bob
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Re: Detection going crazy
Sorry one more thing. That is when we started adding the power boosters and the problem seemed to go away. That is until yesterday.
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Re: Detection going crazy
Thanks folks ... i'll look into these suggestions and get back with results.
FYI ... The throttle numbers are unique. That was double checked since we did experience that once several months ago before the detection went in.
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What would you use to trigger the missing layout sensor(internal) to be active. Could you say when previous block is occupied to turn the internal sensor active after a delay guessing when the engine would hit the block?
What other ways are there that are possible.
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On Jul 19, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Dave Sand < ds@...> wrote: Graham,
It is possible to use Logix and internal sensors to simulate missing layout sensors. ?
The biggest challenge is that you also have to simulate the direction of traffic so that the virtual sensors become active and inactive in the correct sequence. ?Otherwise the block routing breaks down which causes Dispatcher errors.
It is a trade off between cost and dependable operation.
Dave Sand
On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Thank you all for your replys. ?Am I best to install more physical sensors, which will cost, ?If I have a physical sensor on a block, turnout, ?track with a?block reference, turnout, track with a block reference, turnout, physical sensor on a block, will all this come up in red in Dispatcher? ?Steve said he set?an internal sensor between two physical sensors.?
Thank you
Graham
On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?17?:?10?:?42, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
Graham,
The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each
Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things
like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or
false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some
logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting
turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or
false.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Graham,
It is possible to use Logix and internal sensors to simulate missing layout sensors. ?
The biggest challenge is that you also have to simulate the direction of traffic so that the virtual sensors become active and inactive in the correct sequence. ?Otherwise the block routing breaks down which causes Dispatcher errors.
It is a trade off between cost and dependable operation.
Dave Sand
On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Thank you all for your replys. ?Am I best to install more physical sensors, which will cost, ?If I have a physical sensor on a block, turnout, ?track with a?block reference, turnout, track with a block reference, turnout, physical sensor on a block, will all this come up in red in Dispatcher? ?Steve said he set?an internal sensor between two physical sensors.?
Thank you
Graham
On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?17?:?10?:?42, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
Graham,
The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each
Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things
like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or
false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some
logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting
turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or
false.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Thank you all for your replys.? Am I best to install more physical sensors, which will cost,? If I have a physical sensor on a block, turnout,? track with a block reference, turnout, track with a block reference, turnout, physical sensor on a block, will all this come up in red in Dispatcher?? Steve said he set an internal sensor between two physical sensors.?
Thank you
Graham
On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?17?:?10?:?42, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
Graham, The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or false. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Graham,
The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each
Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things
like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or
false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some
logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting
turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or
false.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Graham,
It is not clear what is the reason for the internal sensor. You can put the LocoNet sensors on a panel. Dispatcher uses internal sensor for direction control but they are not normally visible.
If you upload the panel xml file to ProblemsBeingWorkedOn, we can get a better idea of what you are trying to do.
Dave Sand
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On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Can anybody help? I am trying to learn logix to set up internal sensors. I have read the instructions and set up a logix but nothing is happening. I have three physical LocoNet sensors before the internal sensor I am trying to light up in Dispatcher. There is also a turnout after the internal sensor. What do I put to set up this situation? Thank you.
Graham
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Hi all,
Can anybody help?? I am trying to learn logix to set up internal sensors.? I have read the instructions and set up a logix but nothing is happening.? I have three physical LocoNet sensors before the internal sensor I am trying to light up in Dispatcher.? There is also a turnout after the internal sensor.?? What do I put to set up this situation?? Thank you.
Graham
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