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Locked Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

 

Dear All,

I just checked the updates for all sound decoders on the ZIMO page and all versions up to 37.0 are documented :-



You have to click on the + sign which is an expand button next to the "f¨¹r ALLE Sound-Decoder MX640-MX658, MX690-MX699" line to see all the updates. The description of the update is in German and English. It includes definitions of new CVs added to expand the functionality.

Regards
John Russell

---In jmriusers@..., <acarasso_fr@...> wrote :

Hi Thomas

If identifying the decoder model doesn't give you anything, it could be that your new BR85 has got an MX645P22 with the latest SW release 37 (version number is stored in CV7). This new release is not detected by current version 4.8 (July release) or 4.9.1 (July test release).


Thus:
>>> Either just add you lok using the MX645P22 from the Version 32 Plus family
>>> Or wait for test version 4.9.2 which will detect SW release from 36 to 40


Using MX645P22 from either Version 32 Plus Family or from the future Version 36 Plus Family will have the same features as Zimo has not published any information about updates made with SW release higher than
35.


Alain


Locked Re: Test version 4.9.2 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download

 

tested on a Windows 7 system (mainly Panel Pro) all functioning as normal, converted CMR/I hardware to cpNode hardware (which it is), some tweaking required but hardware functioning as expected. Documentation on setting up the cpNode software would be an asset.


tested decoderpro on a pi-sprog and all functions are working as expected.....still way slow to read ESU decoders.


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

Something to add to your Trouble shooting list

CHECK THE LOCO BUFFER FOR A LOOSE CONNECTION ~!

All is working now
Thanks for your help





Terry
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-----Original Message-----
From: 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 7:37 am
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Slot monitor is blank






Terry,

One of the reasons that the uninstall and clear out the program directory
may be needed now and then is that the many upgrades may miss deleting some
of the old parts for one reason or another. So the software will work with
'add on' packages like CATS, when it runs it loads what it finds. If
something had been left around over time, it could get loaded and interfere
with the newer correct parts.

At this point your descriptions and logs show the LocoBuffer is our major
suspect. Here is a clip from the manual about testing the LocoBuffer. Give
it a try and see if that helps to confirm it working or not.

6.1 Sanity Test

To perform a very basic LocoBuffer-USB sanity test perform the following

steps:

1. Unplug the LocoNetR cable. Disable the internal LocoNet terminator if

enabled. (remove any internal jumper at "Term")

2. Power up the LocoBuffer-USB by plugging it into the computer.

3. The lower green power LED should come on.

4. Plug in the LocoNetR cable. The upper green power LED should light.

5. Unplug the LocoNetR cable. The red activity light should blink briefly as

the cable is removed.

6. Restore the termination jumper to its original position if used.

If the lower green power LED does not light, be sure that the USB drivers

have been properly installed. The LocoBuffer-USB does not power up

until the drivers have properly enumerated. (installed and started up)

If the Rail Sync upper power LED does not light, or if the activity LED

does not blink when you unplug the LocoNetR cable, be sure that your

DCC command station is powered up, then check your LocoNetR wiring.

To further test the LocoBuffer-USB you may also perform the following

Loop Back test.

6.2 Loop Back Test

The LocoBuffer-USB input circuit and code actually reads from the unit's

LocoNetR output jack, so if you send a character it should be seen on the

input This test uses the free software available from the JMRI project to

watch the test commands. (www.jmri.org)

Steps:

1. Open the JMRI LocoNetR Monitor window.

2. Using a throttle send a speed change to a locomotive.

3. The set speed commands should appear in the LocoNetR monitor

window and the LocoBuffer-II activity LED should blink

4. Using JMRI send some commands (e.g. switch commands)

5. The commands should appear in the LocoNetR monitor window and the

LocoBuffer-II activity LED should blink

If there is no activity light when throttle commands are sent, check the

LocoNetR wiring. If there is no activity shown in the LocoNetR monitor

window, check that you have LocoBuffer-USB selected in the JMRI

preferences, or that you have LocoBuffer selected and are running at

57.6Kb. Check that you have the correct COM port selected.

Emailing RR-CirKits may be helpful and Dick and Karen are good with
responding to email.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

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Locked Re: Digiblast

 

Hi Michael,

Where are you seeing that EngineDriver is limited to 3 engines on a single train? That needs to be corrected. EngineDriver can have up to three separate throttles, each of which can have any number of engines assigned.
As for the steal, if you request an address via EngineDriver that is already in use, the user is prompted to Steal? that address. This works fine for individual addresses between phones. I do not have any Digitrax throttles, so I can't test your scenario.
Do you know if your procedure with the Digitrax throttle is creating what Digitrax calls a "Universal" (command-station-stored) consist or an "Advanced" (decoder-stored) consist?


Regards,
SteveT


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:23 AM, terryintexas7@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Its a Loco Buffer USB and it has 2 green lights and both are working
Have you tried a different Loconet port and/or a different Loconet cable?

I ask because last night I went through the process of installing a new LocoBuffer USB at my train club to replace one that was destroyed. I had two Loconet ports available near the computer. Plugging in to either of the ports caused all the LEDs to turn on, but only one of the two ports was giving me a Loconet signal.

The cables can certainly wear out over time. ( Movement can cause an open circuit in one or more of the signal wires. The plugs can also wear out from repeated use.)


Paul


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

Terry,



One of the reasons that the uninstall and clear out the program directory
may be needed now and then is that the many upgrades may miss deleting some
of the old parts for one reason or another. So the software will work with
'add on' packages like CATS, when it runs it loads what it finds. If
something had been left around over time, it could get loaded and interfere
with the newer correct parts.



At this point your descriptions and logs show the LocoBuffer is our major
suspect. Here is a clip from the manual about testing the LocoBuffer. Give
it a try and see if that helps to confirm it working or not.



6.1 Sanity Test

To perform a very basic LocoBuffer-USB sanity test perform the following

steps:



1. Unplug the LocoNetR cable. Disable the internal LocoNet terminator if

enabled. (remove any internal jumper at "Term")

2. Power up the LocoBuffer-USB by plugging it into the computer.

3. The lower green power LED should come on.

4. Plug in the LocoNetR cable. The upper green power LED should light.

5. Unplug the LocoNetR cable. The red activity light should blink briefly as

the cable is removed.

6. Restore the termination jumper to its original position if used.



If the lower green power LED does not light, be sure that the USB drivers

have been properly installed. The LocoBuffer-USB does not power up

until the drivers have properly enumerated. (installed and started up)

If the Rail Sync upper power LED does not light, or if the activity LED

does not blink when you unplug the LocoNetR cable, be sure that your

DCC command station is powered up, then check your LocoNetR wiring.

To further test the LocoBuffer-USB you may also perform the following

Loop Back test.



6.2 Loop Back Test

The LocoBuffer-USB input circuit and code actually reads from the unit's

LocoNetR output jack, so if you send a character it should be seen on the

input This test uses the free software available from the JMRI project to

watch the test commands. (www.jmri.org)

Steps:



1. Open the JMRI LocoNetR Monitor window.

2. Using a throttle send a speed change to a locomotive.

3. The set speed commands should appear in the LocoNetR monitor

window and the LocoBuffer-II activity LED should blink

4. Using JMRI send some commands (e.g. switch commands)

5. The commands should appear in the LocoNetR monitor window and the

LocoBuffer-II activity LED should blink



If there is no activity light when throttle commands are sent, check the

LocoNetR wiring. If there is no activity shown in the LocoNetR monitor

window, check that you have LocoBuffer-USB selected in the JMRI

preferences, or that you have LocoBuffer selected and are running at

57.6Kb. Check that you have the correct COM port selected.



Emailing RR-CirKits may be helpful and Dick and Karen are good with
responding to email.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Loconet throttles with SPROG command station

 

On Aug 16, 2017, at 2:15 AM, torgrimg@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
A question from a newbie:
Is it possible to have LocoNet throttles on a standalone LocoNet connected to jmri via a Locobuffer,
and have the throttles control an SPROG running as command station?
Not with a standalone Loconet.

While it is possible for JMRI to bridge throttles from one system to another, to make this work on a Loconet system, you have to be able to read the slot associated with the throttle. No command station means there are no slots to read.


Paul


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

Its a Loco Buffer USB and it has 2 green lights and both are working

I can't call because i am mute due to throat cancer
so i'm stuck with email or texting

Its way out of warranty and It will be awhile before i could buy a new one if it is needed





Terry
Visit My Web site@

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 7:17 am
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Slot monitor is blank






Terry,

My idea was finding anything in JMRI that talks to the layout that worked.
So far it is sounding like the real issue may be a problem in the
LocoBuffer. One thing about the LocoNet Stats, if the wrong flavor of
LocoBuffer is picked in the config, it won't display right.

Asking about the JMRI throttle was an example of something that would talk
to the LocoBuffer as more proof the layout connection is working or not. It
sounds like the programming mode isn't working, or do you have some
locos/decoders that you can read and write from JMRI??

I'd ask about the lights on the LB, but that would require knowing exactly
which LB you have and there are enough slightly different ones, I'd not be
the right person for that. If you feel you have reason to suspect the
LocoBuffer, and it came from RR-CirKits, call them and they can step you
through a couple of tests to know if it working or not.

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Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

Ken

Something i would like to know
I've been using Decoder pro for years starting with Rel 1.8 and up to 4.6 there were no problems
I'd just click the download link and it would find its own way home

Why would You change a good thing that works ??

Granted there were some problems esp with the first WOW decoders And the resets were always inconsistent
But nothing Like this





Terry
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-----Original Message-----
From: 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 6:51 am
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Slot monitor is blank






Terry,

I should have asked this sooner, but what other features of JMRI are
working?? Can you open a throttle and drive a train?? Can you view any other
(non WOW) decoder?? If you open the LocoNet Monitor, do you see things like
clock messages now and then or other throttle traffic from real throttles??

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

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Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

Terry,



My idea was finding anything in JMRI that talks to the layout that worked.
So far it is sounding like the real issue may be a problem in the
LocoBuffer. One thing about the LocoNet Stats, if the wrong flavor of
LocoBuffer is picked in the config, it won't display right.



Asking about the JMRI throttle was an example of something that would talk
to the LocoBuffer as more proof the layout connection is working or not. It
sounds like the programming mode isn't working, or do you have some
locos/decoders that you can read and write from JMRI??



I'd ask about the lights on the LB, but that would require knowing exactly
which LB you have and there are enough slightly different ones, I'd not be
the right person for that. If you feel you have reason to suspect the
LocoBuffer, and it came from RR-CirKits, call them and they can step you
through a couple of tests to know if it working or not.


Locked Re: Issues Installing JMRI on new PC with WIndows 10

 

Steve

Thanks for the tip - I will try in the morning - off to bed now.

Gerry


On 16/08/2017 9:58 PM, breezlys@... [jmriusers] wrote:

Gerry,

Please see the "Known problems with this release" section of the 4.9.2
release notes.

I had the same locking up issue with 4.9.2 but deleting the
decoderIndex.xml file as outlined there immediately fixed it, with no
apparent adverse effects.

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"

---In jmriusers@..., <gerrymmr177@...> wrote :

Ken

Roster shows up try to call up a loco or "New Entry" - computer locks up
- just as you have mentioned.

Now the operating crew has gone home - I can think straight!!!

Gerry


--
Gerry Hopkins MMR #177 FNMRA
Great Northern Downunder




NMRA Australasian Region
Contest & AP Chairman
Web Administrator


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

The slot monitor is blank as is the loco net stats every thing else works but I've never used a JMRI throttle the one time I did I found it too cumbersome
I have 4 UT 4 throttles and the zephyr command station for throttles
Haven't looked at the clock never use it

On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:51 AM, 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Terry,

I should have asked this sooner, but what other features of JMRI are
working?? Can you open a throttle and drive a train?? Can you view any other
(non WOW) decoder?? If you open the LocoNet Monitor, do you see things like
clock messages now and then or other throttle traffic from real throttles??

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

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Locked Re: Issues Installing JMRI on new PC with WIndows 10

 

Gerry,

Please see the "Known problems with this release" section of the 4.9.2 release notes.

I had the same locking up issue with 4.9.2 but deleting the decoderIndex.xml file as outlined there immediately fixed it, with no apparent adverse effects.

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"



---In jmriusers@..., <gerrymmr177@...> wrote :

Ken

Roster shows up try to call up a loco or "New Entry" - computer locks up
- just as you have mentioned.

Now the operating crew has gone home - I can think straight!!!

Gerry


Locked Re: Issues Installing JMRI on new PC with WIndows 10

 

Gerry,

Ok that's the bug with 4.9.2, it is being resolved now. We've debated if we
should pull 4.8.2 since it has been biting a number of users. What was
curious was how it got past all our automated testing.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

Terry,



I should have asked this sooner, but what other features of JMRI are
working?? Can you open a throttle and drive a train?? Can you view any other
(non WOW) decoder?? If you open the LocoNet Monitor, do you see things like
clock messages now and then or other throttle traffic from real throttles??



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Issues Installing JMRI on new PC with WIndows 10

 

Ken

Roster shows up try to call up a loco or "New Entry" - computer locks up
- just as you have mentioned.

Now the operating crew has gone home - I can think straight!!!

Gerry


On 16/08/2017 12:51 PM, 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers]
wrote:

Gerry,

Please define "no good".

But there is an issue with accessing the roster with 4.9.2, some
conditions
cause it to go into a very deep loop and usually fail from a 'out of
memory'
issue. We expect that 4.9.3 will be out within a week to replace it.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org



--
Gerry Hopkins MMR #177 FNMRA
Great Northern Downunder




NMRA Australasian Region
Contest & AP Chairman
Web Administrator


Locked Loconet throttles with SPROG command station

 

A question from a newbie:
Is it possible to have LocoNet throttles on a standalone LocoNet connected to jmri via a Locobuffer,
and have the throttles control an SPROG running as command station?


I just got started with jmri, and have an SPROG 2 that can control a locomotive using the jmri throttle or WiThrottle.

But I also would like to have "real" throttles.


I have a self-built Elektor booster that I can connect to the SPROG, and think of using the cheap FRED throttles.


Torgrim


Locked (No subject)

 

Bill. Sorry I forgot you are using DP (DecoderPro) It on the start screen under Actions>PowerControl. On PP (PanelPros) screen it is under Tools. Why the names are not the same is .................... Walt


Locked Re: Slot monitor is blank

 

I did a reinstall after using the delete programs feature in the control panel to delete The JMRI program

Also went thru all my documents. And deleted every release back to and including 1.8 to try to make sure I had a clean slate

Then downloaded 4.8

Then checked preferences to be sure that the Loco buffer USB was assigned to com5
Same as it's listed in the devise manager
Also checked to make sure
The defaults we all set to loconet

NO Difference
Still a blank slot monitor

For now I'm giving it a rest and will use audio assist and TCS 4 CV programming tool as 95 percent of my decoders are TCS WOWs so any tweaking can be done that way
Since I don't do installs for others there's no reason to have a record
TCS does have a preset feature that you can revert back to but it only works for their decoders
Given I only have 6 older tsunami and 1 Loksound and 4 older QSI ver 7 decoders this should work for now
The only thing I miss about decoder pro is the speed curves
But audio assist has a speed matching feature I can use to set the speed

I've gotten use to using blast mode for doing resets as in the past decoder pro was not reliable

It's possible my loco buffer has died but the lights are still on
Given I've had it a long time it's out of warranty

I may be wrong but I don't think using a product should be. this difficult
It should be a simple down load


Thanks for your help

Terry

On Aug 15, 2017, at 8:25 PM, Paul Bender paul.bender@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Terry,

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, terryintexas7@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
I've used JMRI Since
Release 1.8 and never made a preference change all the way up to 4.6
Nor did the new release make the change
There have been many changes to how preferences are stored since 1.8. Most of those come with an automatic conversion.

Now with 4.8 i have problems ????????
I think the developers need to go back to the drawing board on 4.8
We went through 6 months of testing in the development cycle leading to 4.8. It is working for most people, so there has to be something about your setup that is triggering the issue you see.

Here is what you need to do right now:
1) follow Ken C's advice and uninstall 4.8, and make certain the JMRI directory in the program files directory is gone.
2) reinstall 4.8
3) when you start 4.8, go into the preferences and re select the COM port, then re-save the profile and restart.

Why do we need you to do this? Because between 4.6 and 4.8, we changed the serial port communication library. The new library does some things a little differently than the old one ( for one, the serial port naming is slightly different on at least some of the operating systems we support. Using the old name in this case causes the new library to not be able to find the port. ( and yes, something as simple as capitalization can cause a problem).)

We are asking you to remove the old files from the program directory ( not your user preferences directory ) because we want to make sure the old library is gone, and isn't unexpectedly causing issues.

Paul


Locked Re: Issues Installing JMRI on new PC with WIndows 10

 

Gerry,



Please define "no good".



But there is an issue with accessing the roster with 4.9.2, some conditions
cause it to go into a very deep loop and usually fail from a 'out of memory'
issue. We expect that 4.9.3 will be out within a week to replace it.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org