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Bill: Lets get back to trouble shooting your connection problem to the MRC command station.


Which MRC command station ()are you using?


Which MRC device are you using for the connection to you computer? 1510 or 1516


What does happen when you try to turn the track power On and Off from JMRI>Tools>PowerControl


Walt

AH, thank you.
That is what I need for programming.

Now, how to turn F2 to be latching, not momentary for this roster entry. Any clues where to set this?
(I saw this years ago, but cannot find it now.) Guess I will need to read the new JMRI manual.

Thanks,
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

Bill,

The PR3 can be used as a stand-alone programmer, in which case it is NOT connected to ANY command station.

However, to reiterate what Walt said, it is NOT capable of interfacing with any MRC system.

At the very least, Digitrax and MRC use different communication protocols, and at the worst you may end up damaging one or both units due to incompatible electrical characteristics.


---In jmriusers@..., <sharpy1933@...> wrote :

Thanks, Walt. I just read up on it and it looks like a stand alone instrument for adjusting the decoders, to be used on a test track without the MRC connected. Use it on the test track. Do what has to be done and then check it on the regular layout. I have the knowledge to have the test track connect and disconnect to the rest of the layout. Let me know if I am not right. I thought I saw a place to hook up the MRC to the pr3 . If used this way the power supply in the prc would be isolated from the MRC.
Bill

Club is on 4.8 with a DCS240 and the slot monitor shows data.

David Klemm
Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus
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From: jmriusers@... <jmriusers@...> on behalf of 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:37:57 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Slot monitor is blank



Bob,

He also said about using blast mode on a zephyr so that's giving lots of
options for not having the configuration right. Which Zephyr, which mode of
PR3, powered or not, .

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

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Well Bob and Ken if you missed it I said I made NO CHANGES to the configuration file for years
It's been the same all I did is down load and install ver 4.8
The Zephyr uses a USB loco buffer ll for communication there is no pr3 involved
According to Marc this some times happens
Unexpectedly
Just another weird quirk of JMRI along with the fact
That the factory reset doesn't work
Terry

Paul; thank you for inquiring regarding this topic;


I am using a LZV100 3.6 version command station with software version 3.6 & an LV102 properly hooked up with 2 separate sMg AC-AC power packs supporting the LVZ100 & LV102 for more power the layout & my LIUSB-Ethernet being the only thing plugged into my command station &my software version is macOS High Sierra; version 10.13 Beta (17A330h); I was wondering if this Beta version was maybe a cause for the problems!


Thanks for any assistance that you can provide me:


Bill; the latest System Console is as follows:


2017-08-13 14:32:58,537 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:01,973 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/messages.log [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:01,974 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/session.log [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:02,016 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.9.2ish+jenkins+20170804T0543Z+Reaaaf8a starts under Java 1.8.0_144 on Mac OS X x86_64 v10.13 at Sun Aug 13 14:33:01 EDT 2017 [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:03,233 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile wmseamac.3f48e951 [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:03,868 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-28F0761979C8-3f48e951 as the JMRI Node identity [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:05,461 liusb.LIUSBAdapter INFO - cu.usbmodem1411 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false CD: false [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:05,643 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController ERROR - Automatic Recovery from Error Message: 01 08 09. Retransmitted 0 times. [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Receive thread]


2017-08-13 14:33:05,643 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController INFO - Message added back to queue: 21 21 00 [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Transmit thread]


2017-08-13 14:33:35,674 lenz.XNetInitializationManager WARN - Command Station disconnected, or powered down assuming LZ100/LZV100 V3.x [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:38,650 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is /Applications/JMRI/ [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:38,651 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/wmseamac/profile/jmri-28F0761979C8-3f48e951/ [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:38,651 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/wmseamac/ [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:38,651 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/ [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:38,651 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is /Users/williamseabrooke/ [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:38,652 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is /Applications/JMRI/jython/ [main]


2017-08-13 14:33:40,665 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: 21 21 00 consecutive timeouts = 0 in liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Transmit thread]


2017-08-13 14:34:15,687 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: 21 24 05 consecutive timeouts = 1 in liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Transmit thread]



---In jmriusers@..., <paul.bender@...> wrote :

On 08/09/2017 09:47 AM, Paul Bender wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 6:53 PM, wmseapc@... mailto:wmseapc@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@... mailto:jmriusers@...> wrote:
>> Here is my System Console below; is this what you are referring to as the "log"?
>
> That information is also stored in a log file ( see below). So yes that was what I needed.
>
>> 2017-08-08 18:32:55,715 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/session.log [main]
>
> Now to the important bits of the log.
>
>> 2017-08-08 18:32:59,359 liusb.LIUSBAdapter INFO - cu.usbmodem1411 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false CD: false [main]
>> 2017-08-08 18:32:59,522 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController
>>
>> ERROR - Automatic Recovery from Error Message: 01 08 09. Retransmitted 0 times. [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Receive thread]
>> 2017-08-08 18:32:59,522 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController
>
> This is actually an improvement. This indicates your Mac is talking to your LIUSB, but it is sending back an error message ( one we should be able to recover from ).
>
> This particular error message says the command station isn't giving the LIUSB a communication time slot. I am not sure why you are seeing this on startup.
>
> Let me investigate and see what we can do to fix this.

I've been looking at this over the last couple of days, and the only way
I have been able to replicate what you are seeing is by connecting a
Roco Z21 command station to the LIUSB-Ethernet.

Connecting a version 3.6 LZV100 caused no issues.

Can you tell me a little more about your setup?
What command station are you using?
What software version is the command station?
What else is connected to the command station?
Have you tried your LIUSB-Ethernet with it being the only thing plugged
into the command station?
What version of MacOS X do you have installed?

Thanks,
Paul

Bob,



He also said about using blast mode on a zephyr so that's giving lots of
options for not having the configuration right. Which Zephyr, which mode of
PR3, powered or not, .



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

PR3 as Standalone programmer doesn’t have a command station. (Neither does PR3 as Stand-alone Loconet, but the OP referred to programming a decoder)

Bob

On Aug 13, 2017, at 11:20 AM, 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

The one thing about this story that bugs me is how the slot monitor could
not be working while other tasks using JMRI are working. Have you done the
'Help->Upload Debugging Info' step so we can see your exact configuration
and log file from when you try opening JMRI and then invoking the slot
monitor?? From your descriptions I expect the log files will point to
something and the configuration data would let us confirm that everything is
set correctly.

--
Bob Jacobsen
jacobsen@... +1-510-708-5988 AIM, Skype JacobsenRG

Terry,



The one thing about this story that bugs me is how the slot monitor could
not be working while other tasks using JMRI are working. Have you done the
'Help->Upload Debugging Info' step so we can see your exact configuration
and log file from when you try opening JMRI and then invoking the slot
monitor?? From your descriptions I expect the log files will point to
something and the configuration data would let us confirm that everything is
set correctly.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Thanks, Walt. ?I just read up on it and it looks like a stand alone instrument for adjusting the decoders, to be used on a test track without the MRC connected. ?Use it on the test track. Do what has to be done and then check it on the regular layout. ?I have the knowledge to have the ?test track connect and disconnect to the rest of the layout. ?Let me know if I am not right. ?I thought I saw a place to hook up the MRC to the pr3 . ?If used this way the power supply in the prc would be isolated from the MRC.
Bill

From: "walter.stanley.thompson.3@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:23 PM
Subject: [jmriusers] Re:

? Bill The PR3 will not connect you tp the MRC command station! It is to connect to a digitrax command station of to be used as a stand alone programmer of decoders.
Walt

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Terry,

I find your response very disappointing. Whenever you have an issue you only supply minimal information and when ask for more you don't provide anything or give a response like you just did. So you're just wasting everyone time.

I can't test the slot monitor because I am only using a simulated connection which shows an expected blank slot monitor but I am sure that Walt has already checked and the slot monitor is working on his system.

As for the WOW decoders, Gerry Hopkins has tested the resets in the definitions and they WORK. The issue is STILL probably your Powerpax since blast mode on your Zephyr works.

Unless you're willing to put a little effort into troubleshooting YOUR issues then you are wasting everyone's time.

Moderator Peter U.

Terry: to find out what is causing the problem you are seeing i developers would need to know how you have things set up. If you do not want to give that information on how things are set up what is going wrong can not be found.
Walt

Walt thanks for your help but I'm tired of messing with this
So i'll just use DP with out the Slot monitor

Ive upgraded a dozen times in the past and never made any changes to My settings and the slot monitor
worked fine

Why would it change on its own this time ??????????????????????????


Ive also complained many times in the past about the factory reset not working for Wow Decoders

NO FIXES TO DATE!!!!!

So now i just use my Zephyr in blast mode>>>>IT WORKS>>DP DOES NOT

Terry
Visit My Web site@

Hi Thomas

If identifying the decoder model doesn't give you anything, it could be that your new BR85 has got an MX645P22 with the latest SW release 37 (version number is stored in CV7). This new release is not detected by current version 4.8 (July release) or 4.9.1 (July test release).


Thus:
>>> Either just add you lok using the MX645P22 from the Version 32 Plus family
>>> Or wait for test version 4.9.2 which will detect SW release from 36 to 40


Using MX645P22 from either Version 32 Plus Family or from the future Version 36 Plus Family will have the same features as Zimo has not published any information about updates made with SW release higher than
35.


Alain

Reference: JMRI Ops

?I am a new user of JMRI Operations, using it foroperations only, with no plans to interface hardware on my HO railroad. I have beenworking on implementation for 10 weeks now and been able to understand thebasic operations, and have enjoyed setting things up, learning from the manualand various YouTube and related Web items. Still many cars to enter and routesto set up and verify—but I hate to continue until I solve the launch problem.

?I wrote to the forum back on August 3, andSteve “Breezlys” responded with an idea that helped for a while. I used part ofhis solution to try a different profile, but could not understand the secondpart of his solution. I’ll describe the problem again, and the things I have tried or observed.

?By the way, I was first experiencing thisproblem Version 4.6 and found the exact same description of my problem onanother model railroad forum—but suggestions from that group did not solve theissue for that guy or me—just reinstalling Panel Pro, to fix a suspectedcorrupted icon.

?Here’s the background information:

Using Dell Inspiron laptop

Windows 10 Creators

Java Version 1.8.0.141

JMRI Version 4.8, updated from 4.6

No interface to HO railroad or devices in use

?The problem involves launch of JMRI. Itstarts to launch but pauses after a few seconds. Subsequent attempts result inthe message “already running do you want to continue.” Neither “yes” nor “no”produce any good results. I get no other messages or warnings, and neitherSession nor Messages are created since there was no launch to report (unlessyou do Install Test—and that always produces good reports, without warningsthat I can interpret, since it does launch).?
I have continued to work on my locations,routes, cars, etc., but usually in the Install Test or Demo Mode. The manualadvises against working while in the Install Test Mode but that seems to be theonly reliable way I can use the program. The changes I make are being stored inthe correct places for "My JMRI Railroad" profile, and they are there regardless ofwhether I open the program in regular, Install Test, or Demo mode.?

?On occasion I can get the program to open inregular mode, even for two of three days in a row, then the problem resurfaces,and it will only start in Install Test Mode. The one thing that often, but notalways, allows me to open in regular mode is to do a computer restart. To methat suggests the possibly the JMRI/Java shut down does always shut down correctly,and restarting the computer is the only fix. Or maybe it's just the launch, since I have had session messages showing correct closing of JMRI.

?Also a right click on the JMRIicon and then opening as administrator usually works to open in normal mode with myprofile, but only after a computer restart if launch has failed. This does notalways work, but usually eventually it will after another computer restart. Maybe that's just what I will always have to do.

?Here are some other the things I have triedor observed:


Theearlier suggestion from “Breezlys” was to modify an existing profile or createa new one with one of the simulators selected as connection type. I did have anearlier profile and switched to it, as well as setting the launch to ask forprofile, so I can be sure the correct one is selected. The old profile workedfine for a few days, but then the problem reappeared. The second suggestion was to create a new profile with simulators to avoid a launch hang. I did a search on "simulators for connection type" but could not find an explanation I understood,so have not tried that.?
WhenJMRI hangs and will not start up I can often open the DEMO in 4.8, selecting myprofile, and it works fine. But after quitting the program and trying relaunchin either regular or Demo mode the program often will not launch again in either mode, without a computer restart.Again only a computer reboot fixes. (I do not need a computer reboot for anyother programs I use, nor have any other program hangs on launch.) I get nomessages when the program hangs, and cannot find any leads in Windows 10 taskmanager or event viewer.
?WhenI open with Install Test, JMRI opens every time, without rebooting thecomputer, using my standard profile, even if a normal or demo launch fails.Opening with Install Test has never failed.
The“Release Notes for JMRI 4.8 release” seemed to hold promise for my problem.However I cannot figure out how to try the fix. It says that 4.8 will not startcleanly if installed over earlier versions. It also says in that the Windowsinstaller ensures this is not an issue—don’t understand what that means, since I usedWindows to install but still seem to have the problem.
Iwondered whether my initial use of the DEMO version in 4.6, about 10 weeks ago andthe return to “my railroad” was the source of the problem. Just a theory. Backthen I tried to open the demo panel, as suggested to see how that works, but was unable to doso at the time. Maybe something I tried back then while using 4.6 caused theproblem. Updating to 4.8 did not solve the problem.
I’vethought about trying to shut down JMRI from task manager but have not tried thatyet. Maybe that would allow a clean close, if that is the problem source.
Somerecent JMRI user postings have indicated an antivirus program could cause aconflict with launch. I use McAfee Total Protection, but could not find reportsof conflict between Java and this version of McAfee. Not to say that could notbe the issue.
Messagesand Session notes show normal start up and shut down on days I can get tonormal mode. The shut down shows as normal, but next launch may failnevertheless. When launch fails there are no message or session reports created or other warnings.
I'm running out of ideas, and hope someone can offer a solution, or explain how to proceed with earlier suggestions (either the revised profile or Release Notes for 4.8 and removing jar files.)
Thanks for any help or ideas to try. I really enjoy the operations program, just wish I could start it reliably.
Bill Schmitt

Terry: We need to get answers to how things are set, "made no change" does not tell how they set..
Walt

There are no "plans to add" definitions for particular decoders. JMRI is a purely voluntary project and it is a case of an individual (who may or may not be a regular developer/contributor) finding out about a particular decoder, finding some documentation of supported CVs and functions for that decoder and:
- either having a go at writing the decoder definition themselves <> and submitting it for review <> by creating an issue on GitHub <>
- or by creating an issue on GitHub <> including documents or links thereto and waiting for someone to volunteer to create the definition.
--
Dave in Australia

There are no "plans to add" definitions for particular decoders. JMRI is a purely voluntary project and it is a case of an individual (who may or may not be a regular developer/contributor) finding out about a particular decoder, finding some documentation of supported CVs and functions for that decoder and:
- either having a go at writing the decoder definition themselves <> and submitting it for review <> by creating an issue on GitHub <>
- or by creating an issue on GitHub <> including documents or links thereto and waiting for someone to volunteer to create the definition.
--
Dave in Australia

Further to earlier email, are there any plans to add the DCC Concepts
Accessory Decoders to the Roster? Again, if not, where should I store these
entries?



Rgds



Joff

Are there any plans to add LDt LS Accessory decoders to the Roster? If not,
can anyone suggest where they should be stored for now?



Rgds



Joff