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i downloaded wincvs went admin commandline and typed in this exact
line
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@...:/cvsroot/jmri co
jbuilder

into
and this is the result i get afetwards


cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@...:/cvsroot/jmri co
jbuilder
\n
\n (in directory C:\cvs)
cvs server: cannot find module `jbuilder

' - ignored
cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules

CVS exited normally with code 1

and i get no code
Chad Spickett
970636670

Hi -
I thought it might look like the Speed Page, but doubled. I made a spoof of
it at:
Instructions:
1. load in a preexisting speed table for a loco,
2. start at lowest speed, run the two locos, adhust the speed of the
following until it matches,
3. step to the next speed ....
4. Finally, write the values to the loco

How should we handle updating the Roster entries?

David


Bob Jacobsen wrote:

I think a Racetrack module would be great for JRMI. Before I start, has
anyone done this or do any of you have some suggestions?

We've taken a couple steps in that direction. In the most recent
download, there's a "Speedometer" tool that Roger Gleason and I have
been working on. Given some LocoNet-readable sensors (e.g. block
occupancy detector, a button you push or whatever), you specify how
far apart they are in scale feet, and then it starts reporting the
scale MPH whenever it sees activity.

It seems to work OK, with acceptable accuracy as long as you're
timing over a few seconds of travel (e.g. not too short a distance).

It would require a little work to hook that code into the programming
part. I'd be happy to help somebody do it, but don't really have the
opportunity to spend time on it right now. It will require some
thought to figure out what values go where, etc.

If I set up the basics, e.g. an example that would load one CV with a
value, perhaps somebody else would be willing to handle the rest of
the details?

Bob
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I think a Racetrack module would be great for JRMI. Before I start, has
anyone done this or do any of you have some suggestions?

We've taken a couple steps in that direction. In the most recent download, there's a "Speedometer" tool that Roger Gleason and I have been working on. Given some LocoNet-readable sensors (e.g. block occupancy detector, a button you push or whatever), you specify how far apart they are in scale feet, and then it starts reporting the scale MPH whenever it sees activity.

It seems to work OK, with acceptable accuracy as long as you're timing over a few seconds of travel (e.g. not too short a distance).

It would require a little work to hook that code into the programming part. I'd be happy to help somebody do it, but don't really have the opportunity to spend time on it right now. It will require some thought to figure out what values go where, etc.

If I set up the basics, e.g. an example that would load one CV with a value, perhaps somebody else would be willing to handle the rest of the details?

Bob
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I've been contemplating creating a program similar to Racetrak that talked
through a MS100 or LocoBuffer to the command station instead of driving a
booster directly. That would be much more convenient to me and for the
club. Also since the club has a Toth speedometer, I was think of making a
option to use the speedometer in place of the master loco. i.e.:
"For speed step xx (CV yy) adjust the speed of test loco until the
speedometer reads zz"

But since I don't know java, I would write it in C, probably using John's
LN1 interface.

I think the only tricky thing would be the option of filling in blank values
using existing known values.

Michael Mosher
Webmaster
Daylight Division PCR/NMRA www.trainweb.org/daylight
Golden Empire Historical & Modeling Society www.trainweb.org/gehams
San Luis Obispo Model Railroad Club www.trainweb.org/slomrc
Personal
Member
Kern County Live Steamers www.trainweb.org/kernctyls

I actually got it to compile strait up
i went into Tools Configure JDK's and added in the 7 .jar files from
the library

my actual goal in this hole thing is to figure out simply how to make
a java program that
1) acesses the serial ports
2) reads all the loconet packets that come over the system
3) Write packets to the serial ports

Hi-

My oNeTrak club now has its act together getting our modules finished
and connected to the NTrak club's modules. We would now like to MU some
engines together. (I in particular, as I just installed some decoders
into three SD40-2s :-) However, getting two engines to perform
similarly is harder than you would think. Fortunately, there is a
program to help: Racetrack (see:
). I have asked John Kabat if
he supported the DC100 or Locobuffer, but unfortunately, he is not
supporting the program at this time.

I think a Racetrack module would be great for JRMI. Before I start, has
anyone done this or do any of you have some suggestions?

David

I downloaded a copy of JBuilder Personal Edition 7 to my son's PC last night, and have been working with it (I can only get to that machine while he's asleep, unfortunately).

The Personal Edition has a couple of limitations that I didn't know about. I think I understand some of them now, though there's still one that needs a workaround.

I've also updated the page on compiling with some instructions on how to get and use CVS. _Please_ do that; this method of passing .zip files, etc, is just not reliable enough to be worth the time.

So the steps I recommend are:

Install CVS - for links, etc please see

Check out a copy of the "jbuilder" module:
create a "project folder"
do the checkout (see the instructions at the link above)

start jbuilder with the jmri.jpx file in the java
folder you just created.

There's one remaining problem, that I hope Alex or somebody can resolve. The personal version of JBuilder apparently gets confused if you have multiple programs to build. So you have to tell it which one to run:

Using the file/folder tree at the upper left, navigate

apps -> DecoderPro -> DecoderPro.java

(or which ever app you want to run, e.g. JMRIdemo.java, LocoTools.java)

Double click that file; it will open to the right.

Right-click on the "DecoderPro" tab at the top of the right
window. (Click would select this, right-click or control-click
brings up a menu)

From the pop-up menu, select "Run".

This tells it that you want to build & run _that_ program, which it then does.


All of the above works for me now. Hopefully it will work for you, and we can resolve the need for that last "click-click-right-click" workaround shortly.

Bob

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At 9:25 AM -0400 8/13/02, Maloney, Michael wrote:

All-

I have a new DN146A decoder that decoder pro doesn't recognize. It knows
it's Digitrax, but doesn't know the version, which from CV8(?) is 105.

When I manually choose a DN146A, I don't get any of the options for the FX
lighting. However, I was able to choose one of the FX decoders and get some
of the FX lighting to work.

I guess my questions are:
Where in the XML file can I add the "105" so DecoderPro can recognize it via
IDENT?
Can I modify the DN146A XML file to add the FX lighting info (and where is
that info)?

Have you got the 1.0.3 version of the program? It seems to show FX functions for the outputs of a DN146 decoder. They're on the "Lights" pane. Note that you've got to be using the "Comprehensive" programmer format to see these; the "Basic" one is too basic...

To get it to recognize 105, edit that in as the "lowVersion" in the "decoderIndex.xml" file on the line for the DN146. It's only 106 now, as nobody had even mentioned seeing a 105 there. I've changed the file in CVS so this will work for everybody starting with the next release.

And thanks for the version info. Bob Blackwell is trying to get a comprehensive set of that info so we can make the id process reliable.

Bob
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All-

I have a new DN146A decoder that decoder pro doesn't recognize. It knows
it's Digitrax, but doesn't know the version, which from CV8(?) is 105.

When I manually choose a DN146A, I don't get any of the options for the FX
lighting. However, I was able to choose one of the FX decoders and get some
of the FX lighting to work.

I guess my questions are:
Where in the XML file can I add the "105" so DecoderPro can recognize it via
IDENT?
Can I modify the DN146A XML file to add the FX lighting info (and where is
that info)?

regards,
Mike M.

ok one step foward and 2 back

i do have a jb1.0.3/lib dir and in it is
CVS/
collections.jar
comm.jar
crimson.jar
jdom-jdk11.jar
junit.jar
log4j.jar
Serialio.jar
Readme
security.policy

i also went through all the steps again on my school computer and
came up with the exact same 5 errors

so i am assuming from what you said its just not using the library
correctly

Chad Spickett

At 3:54 PM +0000 8/12/02, sixth_rule wrote:

Ok i got rid of the other 3 errors and am now down to these 2

i got rid of the first 3 errors by changing
import com.sun.java.util.collections.linkedlist yo
import java.util.linked list

Sorry, but this is not progress. The error is because you're not picking up the classes in "collections.jar", which should be in the "lib" directory one level above the "java" directory.

By changing that name, you're using a _different_ class from the Java distribution. It won't interoperate with the serial libraries.

the lines in question look as follows


Error

"LocoNetMessage.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
org.apache.log4j.Category; java.io.IOException: class not found:
class org.apache.log4j.Category at line 226, column 29

corisponds to line

static org.apache.log4j.Category log =
org.apache.log4j.Category.getInstance(LocoNetMessage.class.getName());

and Error

"LnTrafficController.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
org.apache.log4j.Category; java.io.IOException: class not found:
class org.apache.log4j.Category at line 75, column 26

corrisponds to line

static org.apache.log4j.Category log =
org.apache.log4j.Category.getInstance
(LnTrafficController.class.getName());

becasue of the com.sun.java errors i am worried about the org.apache
part of the code becasue that looks like a web adress
also why is it log4j instead of just log ?

"log4j" is the name of the package containing the "Category" class. Actually, the complete name of the package is "org.apache.log4j". Those are defined in the "log4j.jar" file in the "lib" directory, which has to be located by the compiler. That's the same problem we're trying to resolve, so hopefully these will all clean up at the same time once we get that.

"log" is a variable that's defined at the bottom of the file. But the _type_ of that variable, e.g. the class info needed by the compiler, has to come from the class definition in a jar file.

i don't see where log4j has been previously declaired
i have been playing around with the wording in this line but have yet
to fix this part

any help would be helpful

Chad Spickett

i also checked in my c:\jb1.0.3\java dir and here is what is there:
classes/
cvs/
doc/
src/
test/
jmri.jpx
jmri.jpx.local
jmri.jpx.local~
JMRILibraries.library

i think the last one was the one you wanted to know if it was there

could there be any class path settings i have wrong or do i have to

> move that library file into jdk1.3.1/lib ???

The "JMRILibraries.library" file is text, and points to the location of the .jar file that JBuilder will use during compilation. It should contain lines like:

<path>[../lib/log4j.jar]</path>

which say that the library "one directory up and then in the lib folder" is needed.

So please check that there's a C:&#92;jn1.0.3&#92;lib directory, and that it contains 7 .jar files, a README file (not needed) and a "security.policy" file (only needed at runtime)

Bob
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Ok i got rid of the other 3 errors and am now down to these 2

i got rid of the first 3 errors by changing
import com.sun.java.util.collections.linkedlist yo
import java.util.linked list

the lines in question look as follows


Error

"LocoNetMessage.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
org.apache.log4j.Category; java.io.IOException: class not found:
class org.apache.log4j.Category at line 226, column 29

corisponds to line

static org.apache.log4j.Category log =
org.apache.log4j.Category.getInstance(LocoNetMessage.class.getName());

and Error

"LnTrafficController.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
org.apache.log4j.Category; java.io.IOException: class not found:
class org.apache.log4j.Category at line 75, column 26

corrisponds to line

static org.apache.log4j.Category log =
org.apache.log4j.Category.getInstance
(LnTrafficController.class.getName());

becasue of the com.sun.java errors i am worried about the org.apache
part of the code becasue that looks like a web adress
also why is it log4j instead of just log ?
i don't see where log4j has been previously declaired
i have been playing around with the wording in this line but have yet
to fix this part

any help would be helpful

Chad Spickett

i also checked in my c:&#92;jb1.0.3&#92;java dir and here is what is there:
classes/
cvs/
doc/
src/
test/
jmri.jpx
jmri.jpx.local
jmri.jpx.local~
JMRILibraries.library

i think the last one was the one you wanted to know if it was there

could there be any class path settings i have wrong or do i have to
move that library file into jdk1.3.1/lib ???

At 9:07 PM -0700 8/11/02, David Harris wrote:

However, it would appear to be difficult to make and beak a consist off
the programming track. So, does Decoder Pro support
programming-on-the-main?

I have about 3/4 of an implementation for Digitrax systems, and haven't started on the details of the others yet. I keep getting distracted by cool little projects...

With the start of school, I doubt I'll get a chance to work on this in the next couple weeks. Sorry. Perhaps somebody else would like to.

Bob
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Hi all-

I have installed some LE0511Ws into three SD40-2s and now am in a
position to want to consist them. I understand there is three methods
for consisting:

1. give all three the same address;
2. use Digitrax advanced consisting to alias a consist address
onto each;
3. program a consist address into the decoders

If I program the appropriate CV to a consist address, then all three
repond to the consist address for speed and direction. Lights are
active on each at its own address.

However, it would appear to be difficult to make and beak a consist off
the programming track. So, does Decoder Pro support
programming-on-the-main?

Thanks,
David

I've assumed the role of data gathering to assist Bob in managing
decoder ID information. I'll be using Excel spreadsheet to expand on
Bob's previous list of decoder manufacturer and version information.
If you would like to contribute to the list, please forward your
decoder information to me at decoderpro_id_program@...
Be sure to include the following information;

Name of Manufacturer
Decoder Model Number (Name)
Decoder Type (Mobile, Stationary, Accessory)
Value of CV7
Value of CV8
Your contact information
Any comments that you may have with respect to the manufacturer of
the decoder or its version.

Bob (Original_Black_Bart)
decoderpro_id_program@...


--- In jmriusers@y..., Bob Jacobsen <Bob_Jacobsen@l...> wrote:

At 12:20 PM +0000 8/9/02, original_black_bart wrote:

Bob,

With a clearer understanding of the need, I'd be willing to take

on

the task of compiling the decoder information. I assume you'd

want to

know the Decoders Manufacturer, Model Number and Version Number

(s).

How do you wan the data collected - spreadsheet (Excel), database
(Access) or other means?

Thanks!

I'd like to match the manufacturer name & their model number (i.e.
what people actually call the thing) with the values of CV7 and

CV8.

A specific model might have several values for these, and we

should

catch as many as we can.

Any way to store them is fine. I use a spreadsheet plus paper
notebook. A while back I uploaded the contents to the "database"

part

of the Yahoo group

method=reportRows&tbl=1

that's a convenient way to enter a line or two, or search for a
particular model, but it's an inconvenient way to work with the

whole

thing.

Bob
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At CERN until August 10, replies may be slow.

Bob

Using the card address of the AD4, I'd like calculate then display
the cards range of associated switch numbers. For example, based on a
decoder address of 1, switch numbers would be 1 through 4. With a
decoder address of 10, switch numbers would be 37 through 40.

Switch addresses can be calculated as follows;

SwitchNumber_High = Card Address * 4
SwitchNumber_Low = SwitchNumber_High - 3

Thanks, found the slider information. Know to figure out how to make
it work with the radio buttons!

Bob

--- In jmriusers@y..., Bob Jacobsen <Bob_Jacobsen@l...> wrote:

At 7:37 PM +0000 8/11/02, original_black_bart wrote:

Sorry to be a pest, but can you identify how I might calcualte and
display switch numbers and slider values on the AD4 Pane?

For slider values, take a look at the "Speed" pane (I think) in the
programmers/Comprehensive.xml file. Basically, you display a
variable multiple times, once as a slider, and another time as a
numeric field. You can then orient them as you'd like, put the
labels as desired, etc.

I think switch numbers is going to require some code, as there's no
way right now to add, subtract and multiply in between the numeric
values and the CV contents. What exactly would you like to do? I

can

set up another variable type pretty easily.

Bob
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K i did every step the same as you except when i hit rebuild i got
the following errors and no warnings

"LnMessageBuffer.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
com.sun.java.util.collections.LinkedList; java.io.IOException: class
not found: class com.sun.java.util.collections.LinkedList at line 11,
column 38

"LnMessageBuffer.java": Error #: 300 : class LinkedList not found in
class jmri.jmrix.loconet.locormi.LnMessageBuffer at line 18, column 3

"LocoNetMessage.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
org.apache.log4j.Category; java.io.IOException: class not found:
class org.apache.log4j.Category at line 226, column 29

"LnMessageBuffer.java": Error #: 300 : class LinkedList not found in
class jmri.jmrix.loconet.locormi.LnMessageBuffer at line 28, column 25

"LnTrafficController.java": Error #: 302 : cannot access class
org.apache.log4j.Category; java.io.IOException: class not found:
class org.apache.log4j.Category at line 75, column 26

i also checked in my c:&#92;jb1.0.3&#92;java dir and here is what is there:
classes/
cvs/
doc/
src/
test/
jmri.jpx
jmri.jpx.local
jmri.jpx.local~
JMRILibraries.library

i think the last one was the one you wanted to know if it was there

could there be any class path settings i have wrong or do i have to
move that library file into jdk1.3.1/lib ???

Forget my previous remark about not being able to program. It seems if
you enter a number in "DCC Address" even if it changes in "Card Address" you
can't program! However if you enter the number in "Card Address" it still
changes in both locations but you can program.
Would "Card Number" be better than "Card Address" as that's the way CVP
refers to it?
Is there any way for the "DCC Address" to actually show the addresses
without referring to some kind of lookup table? As in;
Card Number=128
DCC Addresses=509-512

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Bob and Bob,
Just hooked up a "Switchmaster", switch machine motor to test
programming and actual control using a DT400. I programmed (using the
individual CV programmer) for card #250 and put the switch motor on the
first output #997. It worked.
The DT400 will only go to 999 so am guess as Bob did it's the software
in the throttles that prevent higher numbers. The Chief seems to be able to
program the numbers it just that the throttles can't select them.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

At 7:37 PM +0000 8/11/02, original_black_bart wrote:

Sorry to be a pest, but can you identify how I might calcualte and
display switch numbers and slider values on the AD4 Pane?

For slider values, take a look at the "Speed" pane (I think) in the programmers/Comprehensive.xml file. Basically, you display a variable multiple times, once as a slider, and another time as a numeric field. You can then orient them as you'd like, put the labels as desired, etc.

I think switch numbers is going to require some code, as there's no way right now to add, subtract and multiply in between the numeric values and the CV contents. What exactly would you like to do? I can set up another variable type pretty easily.

Bob
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