Re: Manifests: Why print all at once before an Op Session?
#operationspro
I don't have experience with JMRI's OperationsPro, but I assume it works much the same as my MRR Sys's Freight Car Forwarder program. What my program does is *simulate* the whole operating session, specificly keeping track of cars as they are moved from place to place. At the end of the simulation it prints a set of switch lists (like OperationsPro Manifests). If it is the case that a car to be on one train and later on another train, that car would end up on both trains' switch lists (Manifests). This is not unlike the prototype -- the railroad's freight agent(s) will work out a car (or group of cars) whole journey and will be able to send waybills and manifests to the various conductors in advance of their day's work. Using OperationsPro (or MRR Sys's Freight Car Forwarder), is just like having a virtual freight agent for your railroad doing all of the (boring) office work rounding up contracts with shippers to move "stuff" around your railroad. A good freight agent will have figured out what sort of cars to move the contracted shippments and which train(s) will be moving those cars. And have all of that sorted out before the conductors show up at their trains to begin their day's work. At Sat, 03 May 2025 11:22:10 -0700 "Clarence Zink" <clarence.zink@...> wrote:
Good afternoon -
My question pertains to the logic of printing Manifests during Operating Sessions.? I've been following this group for a while now, and it has been very helpful, but I am perplexed about the idea of printing ALL train manifests for a op session ahead of time vs. printing the manifests for each train as the train is built and ready to move.
JMRI OperationsPro does not actually terminate a train until all cars have been SO and/or PU'ed, and the train arrives at it's last destination.
If Train A (a cross country road freight) stops at Location 2 (an I/C yard) to set out cars needed for Train B (a local) at say, 09:30; but Train B is timed to stop at Location 2 to pick up the cars SO by Train A at say 10:45, before Train A terminates at 12:15, how does JMRI handle the cars transferred from A to B??
Train B has a much shorter journey than Train A, Train B terminating at Location 5 at 11:15.? Thus Train B terminates before Train A.? How does that work?
Does my question make sense?
Thank you,
Clarence
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Good afternoon -?
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My question pertains to the logic of printing Manifests during Operating Sessions.? I've been following this group for a while now, and it has been very helpful, but I am perplexed about the idea of printing ALL train manifests for a op session ahead of time vs. printing the manifests for each train as the train is built and ready to move.??
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JMRI OperationsPro does not actually terminate a train until all cars have been SO and/or PU'ed, and the train arrives at it's last destination.
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If Train A (a cross country road freight) stops at Location 2 (an I/C yard) to set out cars needed for Train B (a local) at say, 09:30; but Train B is timed to stop at Location 2 to pick up the cars SO by Train A at say 10:45, before Train A terminates at 12:15, how does JMRI handle the cars transferred from A to B??
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Train B has a much shorter journey than Train A, Train B terminating at Location 5 at 11:15.? Thus Train B terminates before Train A.? How does that work?
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Does my question make sense?
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Clarence
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Re: Problem with DCS210+ connecting to Win10
I changed to comm3.? I? now get 308 error.? Prog light flashes orange before 308 error reading cv's.
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10:43:15,425 apps.util.Log4JUtil ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- * JMRI log ** [main]
10:43:15,440 apps.util.Log4JUtil ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- This log is stored in file: C:\Users\user\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
10:43:15,440 apps.util.Log4JUtil ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- This log is appended to file: C:\Users\user\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
10:43:15,487 apps.AppsBase ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- DecoderPro version 5.10+Rca461bd266 starts under Java 17.0.14 on Windows 10 amd64 v10.0 at Sat May 03 10:43:15 CST 2025 [main]
10:43:15,725 apps.gui3.Apps3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3ed69ac3 [main]
10:43:16,007 jmri.util.node.NodeIdentity ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- Using c0f73803-0a28-4143-a5d4-ce6ead45f1e7 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3ed69ac3 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
10:43:16,174 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO ?- Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]
10:43:16,362 t.usb_dcs210Plus.UsbDcs210PlusAdapter INFO ?- Connecting USB DCS210Plus via COM3 VcomDCS210+ [main]
10:43:16,377 .loconet.locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter INFO ?- LocoNet: Port USB Serial Device (COM3) opened at 57600 baud, sees DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false DCD: false flow: RTSCTS [main]
10:43:16,393 x.loconet.pr3.PR3SystemConnectionMemo INFO ?- Connection [L] initialized as LocoNet interface, allows access to attached devices. (see preferences) [main]
10:43:16,488 jmri.jmrix.loconet.LnPacketizer ? ? ? INFO ?- lnPacketizer Started [main]
10:43:17,210 jmri.jmrit.roster.Roster ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO ?- Reading roster file with rootFromName(C:\Users\user\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\roster.xml) [main]
10:43:34,079 ix.loconet.loconetovertcp.LnTcpServer INFO ?- Starting new LocoNetOverTcpServer listener on port 1234 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
10:43:34,081 ix.loconet.loconetovertcp.LnTcpServer INFO ?- Starting ZeroConfService _loconetovertcpserver._tcp.local for LocoNetOverTCP Server [AWT-EventQueue-0]
10:43:34,396 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer ?INFO ?- Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.0.28:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
10:43:34,396 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer ?INFO ?- Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:e862:7f07:81ec:d531%wlan1:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
10:43:34,397 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer ?INFO ?- Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:5414:27df:8a51:7473%net11:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
10:43:34,398 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer ?INFO ?- Published ZeroConf service for 'south sask railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 10.0.5.221:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
10:43:34,398 jmri.jmrit.withrottle.FacelessServer ?INFO ?- Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]
10:43:34,433 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
10:43:34,434 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path preference: is C:\Users\user\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
10:43:34,434 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path profile: is C:\Users\user\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
10:43:34,435 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path settings: is C:\Users\user\JMRI\ [main]
10:43:34,435 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path home: is C:\Users\user\ [main]
10:43:34,435 jmri.util.FileUtilSupport ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO ?- File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
10:43:35,032 t.permission.DefaultPermissionManager INFO ?- Permission file: C:\Users\user\JMRI\.permissions.xml [main]
10:43:35,037 t.permission.DefaultPermissionManager INFO ?- Permission system is enabled: no [main]
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OK lets see if this is better.
Craig Drenkow 1306 Parkview Dr. Norfolk, NE? 68701 402-649-5498
On Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 07:42:10 PM CDT, Breezlys via groups.io <livinthelife@...> wrote:
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Your screen captures are next to impossible to read, and don't contain enough info for anyone to hazard a guess.
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Please attach the actual train build report (not a screen capture!) in very detailed mode.
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Steve
"Breezlys"
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Louis,?
On May 3, 2025, at 9:04?AM, louis.dirosso via groups.io <louis.dirosso@...> wrote: [snippet]
No, the AIU is used for sensor feedback and switch feedback, if wired to do so. Each block sensor is fed to the AIU to trigger one of the AIU¡¯s 16 channels (actually 14 because 2 channels are too sensitive unless it¡¯s turnout feedback).
Not to pick but a clarification. ?12 of the 14 AIU channels have good sensitivity except for #6 & #7, for which I created a modification to improve their sensitivity. I posted the fix on the NCE group.
I know this is outside the scope of your message to Allen (Nimble) but thought the info could be useful for someone.
John ?Bauchiero -?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.5 - Java 17.0.12
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Sorry but right after I did send the message I tried to resume ops and I faced the issue again. I uploaded ?the logs :
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The last received message for Throttle 4 is at line 35622, and new message starting line 35780 are lost.
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Hi again,
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It seems that you've tackled it ! Your latest installer works great, the dispatcher exception is not there and I could not reproduce this topic's problem.
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Bob,
The block contents label was introduced with JMRI 3.6. Prior to that the memory label approach was required. The help pages were updated later.
The block contents label has some quirks that make it hard to configure. A recent PR resolves those issues.
Solution A is the recommended approach since the data comes directly from the source.
Dave Sand
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----- Original message ----- From: "Bob Jacobsen via groups.io" <rgj1927@...> To: [email protected]Subject: [jmriusers] Layout Editor displaying block contents Date: Saturday, May 03, 2025 6:37 AM I¡¯ve got what seems like a beginner¡¯s Layout Editor question, but I¡¯ve never run across this before: How best to display block contents on a Layout Editor Panel? There seem to be (at least) two methods in use: A) Place a Block Contents Label on the panel B) Attach a Memory to the Block via the Edit Block window, then place a Memory Icon on the panel Solution (A) seems the most straightforward to me. It¡¯s the one recommended in the documentation. But I¡¯ve been given some panels to work on that use (B). Is there a reason to prefer one approach or the other? Is something else recommended now? Thanks in advance. Bob ¡ª Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
1. Am I to understand that you found BOTH the NCE Light-it & the RRCirKits HD2 to suffer the same/similar issue of "not being able to keep up?"
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Correct. The SD2 was better, but still has flaws. I imagine this is why RR circuits dropped it and moved forward with the signalman.
2. Thus you went to the RRCirKits "Signalman" decoder because it does the job properly, even though it be percieved by the NCE system to be a "loco" and addressed as such? [Thus abandoning the use of the separate "signal addressing" system.]
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Correct
3. Can you confirm if it is the NCE AIU channels that "trip" the signals and inform JMRI of the status of things [including turnout feedback, which I am using]?
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No, the AIU is used for sensor feedback and switch feedback, if wired to do so. Each block sensor is fed to the AIU to trigger one of the AIU¡¯s 16 channels (actually 14 because 2 channels are too sensitive unless it¡¯s turnout feedback).
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Turnout feedback can be handled internally on the NCE command station. When you program each switch on JMRI, select ¡°monitoring¡± as feedback and the NCE command station tells JMRI the switch status.?
However, if you need local push button control of a turnout, then that turnout needs feedback to the AIU. If you use a push button off say, a Switch-it, the push button is ¡°local¡± to the switchit and does not send a command to the command station. So the switch is thrown, but your command station doesn¡¯t know it. Hence why you need feedback to the AIU.?
Personally, I ditched feedback and push buttons when I went to CTC and eliminated the extra bit of wiring. It¡¯s much easier to have say, a Tablet mounted as a panel and control switches on it.
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Dave helped me with the packet stuff last time. Nothing we did helped the lightit. Learn from my mistakes.
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Modeling Conrail¡¯s Boston Line in HO
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Thank you for doing this. I¡¯m sorry you had trouble with the Dispatcher. I¡¯d like to see whether that exception is due to my change, or due to some Dispatcher change made since JMRI 5.10 came out. To do that, I¡¯ve created installers that are functionally identical to JMRI 5.10 _except_ that the contain this XPressNet throttle fix. When you have time, could you try that one please? If those installers fix the stopping problem and don¡¯t show the Dispatcher issue, that would indicate that the Dispatcher exception is due to some change(s) between 5.10 and now. Not great, but it¡¯ll be good to know. Thanks in advance. Bob On May 3, 2025, at 6:47?AM, vdrien via groups.io <adrien.virolleaud@...> wrote:
Hi Bob,
I did managed to test your build.
At first I faced an error, which is related to the fact that I rely on dispatcher with my autopilot script (I use transits, turnouts setting form there). The error is :
2025-05-03T10:49:20,355 ptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler ERROR - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler [AWT-EventQueue-0]
java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "jmri.jmrit.dispatcher.DispatcherFrame.requestAllocation(jmri.jmrit.dispatcher.ActiveTrain, jmri.Section, int, int, boolean, jmri.util.JmriJFrame, boolean)" because "this.mDispatcher" is null
So I was not able to create an active train and in my configuration that prevents me from using my autopilot script. What I did to test your build was to create a simpler script that sends alternate speeds commands with some random time between command to 3 trains running at the same time.
First things first I used this script under current production release (5.10) and I quickly reproduced the problem of this topic. I then ran the same configuration on your provided build and after a much longer time running I didn't face any issue. Which is great.
I don't know then if the error I met with the dispatcher is a regression on your version or my implementation that needs to be upgraded.
Anyway seems we are moving forward many thanks. ¡ª Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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I¡¯ve got what seems like a beginner¡¯s Layout Editor question, but I¡¯ve never run across this before: How best to display block contents on a Layout Editor Panel?
There seem to be (at least) two methods in use:
A) Place a Block Contents Label on the panel
B) Attach a Memory to the Block via the Edit Block window, then place a Memory Icon on the panel
Solution (A) seems the most straightforward to me. It¡¯s the one recommended in the documentation. But I¡¯ve been given some panels to work on that use (B).
Is there a reason to prefer one approach or the other? Is something else recommended now?
Thanks in advance.
Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Hi Bob,
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I did managed to test your build.
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At first I faced an error, which is related to the fact that I rely on dispatcher with my autopilot script (I use transits, turnouts setting form there). The error is :?
2025-05-03T10:49:20,355 ptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler ERROR - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler [AWT-EventQueue-0]
java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "jmri.jmrit.dispatcher.DispatcherFrame.requestAllocation(jmri.jmrit.dispatcher.ActiveTrain, jmri.Section, int, int, boolean, jmri.util.JmriJFrame, boolean)" because "this.mDispatcher" is null
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So I was not able to create an active train and in my configuration that prevents me from using my autopilot script. What I did to test your build was to create a simpler script that sends alternate speeds commands with some random time between command to 3 trains running at the same time.
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First things first I used this script under current production release (5.10) and I quickly reproduced the problem of this topic. I then ran the same configuration on your provided build and after a much longer time running I didn't face any issue. Which is great.
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I don't know then if the error I met with the dispatcher is a regression on your version or my implementation that needs to be upgraded.
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Anyway seems we are moving forward many thanks.
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Nimble, ? I recall there is a command station option that will cause a signal decoder message to be repeated on the track bus a couple of times. I could see if that was set to 1 as a default, changing it up a bit might be the cure. I see the default for repeating as this in the PH5: ? NUMBER OF ACCESSORY PACKETS This adjusts the number of accessory control commands sent when an accessory or signal is controlled. Factory default is 4. Press ENTER to skip setting this parameter. ? That should be reasonable. This is under the Packet Management Setup part of the command station configuration. But maybe other values are worth trying. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Nimble, ? If you plan on keeping JMRI present in your layout operations, you can use it to gateway any other device to work with other devices. If your signal logic stays in JMRI it is very seamless. ? Now anything that works with an AIU could also be moved onto the LCC or other RR-CirKits nodes. Just another choice and you could defer doing that to later. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Greetings Lou,
I have just watched several of your YouTube videos. Thanks for
taking the time to produce these helpful vids.
Just a couple of things I'd like to clarify regarding the
signalling system you have settles on:
1. Am I to understand that you found BOTH the NCE Light-it &
the RRCirKits HD2 to suffer the same/similar issue of "not being
able to keep up?"
2. Thus you went to the RRCirKits "Signalman" decoder because it
does the job properly, even though it be percieved by the NCE
system to be a "loco" and addressed as such? [Thus abandoning the
use of the separate "signal addressing" system.]
3. Can you confirm if it is the NCE AIU channels that "trip" the
signals and inform JMRI of the status of things [including turnout
feedback, which I am using]?
Any clarifications by you [or others] would be most appreciated.
Allan B [Nimble],
Land of Oz
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On 1/05/2025 6:41 am, louis.dirosso via
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And, for what it's worth, I tried slowing down the commands
and even added a line of code to resend commands automatically.
It seemed as if the light-it was just overwhelmed. It was an
ugly few months for me tracing, retracing, and retracing logix
over and over before I ripped them out and replaced with
signalman.
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Lou
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Hello? Members
Im back again trying out JMRI,but have encountered same problems as Other Attempts.
I have made a simple layout plan,7 blocks no turnouts.(for testing)
Each block has detection,the first and last IR stopping sensors,all? appear to be acknowledged by JMRI
I can make a simple 7 block continuous transit,asking jmri to run a train till the Stopping sensor then Terminate
This i can execute,no problem.I can return the train manually then re do,works,but after this things go awry.
Questions
1.When i choose Stopping sensors in Sections,it Doesnt (appear) to? save them.When i go into edit they are not there.
Is this a Bug?
2.The most common problem i have is that if i run the same transit more than once,eventually the train will? stay in the First block,waiting for the next Block to? get allocated,but never does.
Once this happens,no transits will? ever work.
I have to restart NCE and JMRI,then it (may)work.
I spent many hours reading Posts here,and ive seen these problems ,but never seen a fix(for me anyway)
I will upload a file called JMRI to Look in the uploads
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Any comments most welcome
Regards
Brett
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Nimbles reply...I tried a few JMRI signal profiles, none proved
any better than any others. The Light-its are using the Signal
Decoder subset of addressing, as outlined in the NCE documentation
and what JMRI lists as "check the offset box"? for each signal.
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On 3/05/2025 4:06 am, Ken Cameron
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My question to users of the Light-It, which
method did you configure the decoder to use?
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If the choice was Signal Address Decoder, I
would not expect any single Light-It to get more than one
command for quite a while. Each should be able to deal with
that without concern what other addresses might be getting
commands.
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But if the choice was as loco decoder or
accessory decoder, I could see some interference between the
multiple commands for a combination of features.
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Which have people been using when finding
issues with the Light-It?
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Hi Dave, Lou,
Dave, I understand what you are saying, but the problem is still
evident even though I am using the "DCC Signal Decoder" option for
the signal heads and just trying to employ some simple logix
commands. I did try using the signal mast "Signal Head Controlled
Mast" option, amongst others and always got to the same point,
that is, signals would miss updates - somewhat randomly. Could be
any of three aspects.
I could always update any given signal manually from the JMRI
interface on my PC screen, no problem. But getting the signals to
update absolutely reliably on the layout via the sensors/AIUs as
the train moved around...nope! The JMRI screen would update and
tell me "Signal 'x' is green' but on the layout it might have
stayed at 'caution' or 'danger'.
I also noted that the more signal I added, the more likely I was
to get update failures [not always the same signal either]. So
random.
Nimble
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On 3/05/2025 1:13 am, Dave Sand wrote:
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Lou,
The Light-It does support the NMRA Signal Decoder standard.
?This is supported in JMRI by using the "DCC Signal Decoder"
option for the signal heads. ?You do need to modify some of the
appearance numbers if using appearances other than red, yellow
and green.
I suspect the problem might occur when using the signal mast
"Signal Head Controlled Mast" option to combine multiple signal
heads. ?For example, changing a two head mast aspect from Clear
to Diverging Clear requires two signal head appearance commands.
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Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal
decoder - Simultaneous commands #nce
Date: Friday, May 02, 2025 8:10 AM
Thank you for the invitation!
before you go chewing out NCE, try to remember that the
signal decoder are built without any sort of compatibility or
NMRA standard to meet.?
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The light-it decoder is intended to be used with a handheld
NCE throttle and when it is, it works well. at no point was it
designed to interface with JMRI and I would imagine not
designed to accept the commands as JMRI. When we start
interfacing third-party hardware with other third-party
hardware and it doesn¡¯t work, as frustrating
as it is, we should not blame the manufacturer. We should
blame the standard.?
I held onto my light, it decoders and will
use them as accessory lighting for buildings streets, etc.
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Lou
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Modeling Conrail¡¯s Boston Line in HO
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Re: NCE ProCab- Light-it as signal decoder - Simultaneous commands
#nce
Hi Lou,
The idea of using the NCE decoders to light buildings, even some
street lamps etc... is something I am thinking about. I won't
actually bin them...yet! And? you're right in saying they work
okay via NCE throttles; and yes they do work from JMRI , but not
without the issue[s] we've discussed. It would be nice if'n I
known about these limitations before purchasing the hardware. NCE
don't tell you, nor their supplier here in Sydney.
I guess my next questions is, "How much NCE hardware now becomes
redundant [as far as signalling goes], if I use another product
decoder?" For example, will any of the RRCirKits signal drivers
simply replace the NCE ones and just hook-up onto the NCE track
bus? If so, then I would be able to keep my NCE AIUs and the
myriad of sensors [NCE BD20s] I have installed. OR...do I need to
set up an entirely new and separate BUS for to carry the signal
logic, etc... [An LLC control bus, for example] and would any of
the NCE items still work with that?
Perhaps the answer are in you YouTube posting, which I will view
shortly.
Thanks again for responding and helping me regain my composure.?
Nimble.
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On 2/05/2025 11:10 pm, louis.dirosso
via groups.io wrote:
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Thank you for the invitation!
before you go chewing out NCE, try to remember that the
signal decoder are built without any sort of compatibility or
NMRA standard to meet.?
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The light-it decoder is intended to be used with a handheld
NCE throttle and when it is, it works well. at no point was it
designed to interface with JMRI and I would imagine not designed
to accept the commands as JMRI. When we start interfacing
third-party hardware with other third-party hardware and it
doesn¡¯t work, as
frustrating as it is, we should not blame the manufacturer. We
should blame the standard.?
I held onto
my light, it decoders and will use them as accessory lighting
for buildings streets, etc.
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Lou
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Modeling Conrail¡¯s Boston Line in HO
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Re: Trying to load JMRI 5, and JAVA 11
#java
Graeme, Read this and be sure to run the Oracle utility if you ever had oracle java installed.
On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 5:54?PM Graeme Wilson via <graemedavidwilson= [email protected]> wrote: but get?
LaunchJMRI - 0.1.31.0
Java not found in jre, default or Registry
try installing or using mklink jre {path to java version 11
very much a beginner.?
Thanks Graeme
-- John Griffin
Model Railroading Topics
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Craig
John Bauchiero
Bob Jacobsen
Ken Cameron