Re: New laptop ¡ advice needed, S mode?
You may not be able to install JMRI
Windows in S mode is a streamlined version of Windows designed for
security and performance, restricting app installation to the
Microsoft Store and requiring Microsoft Edge for browsing.
It's a
one-way process, and switching out of S mode is possible but not
reversible
On 4/11/2025 4:18 PM, burrettmd via
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Gang, my old basement laptop was calling it quits, so a new
one has arrived. Before I install JMRI, is there anything I
should be aware of? New machine is windows 11 in S mode which I
don¡¯t know much about. Does that present any issues? Thanks.
Bruce B. Blackwood in Mount Airy, MD
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Re: New laptop ¡ advice needed, S mode?
I didn¡¯t know about S mode either, so I googled and found this
Key is ¡°?it
allows only apps from Microsoft Store¡° - so I¡¯m guessing you won¡¯t be able to install JMRI at all
That link does tell you how to get out of S mode though
Phil G
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On 11 Apr 2025, at 21:18, burrettmd via groups.io <burrett@...> wrote:
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Gang, my old basement laptop was calling it quits, so a new one has arrived. Before I install JMRI, is there anything I should be aware of? New machine is windows 11 in S mode which I don¡¯t know much about. Does that present any issues? Thanks. Bruce B.
Blackwood in Mount Airy, MD
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New laptop ¡ advice needed, S mode?
Gang, my old basement laptop was calling it quits, so a new one has arrived. Before I install JMRI, is there anything I should be aware of? New machine is windows 11 in S mode which I don¡¯t know much about. Does that present any issues? Thanks. Bruce B. Blackwood in Mount Airy, MD
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Hi, I had something a bit similar with my Windows 11 laptop.
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The JMRI Panel Pro 5.6 startup got stuck after I'd added an NCE Power Pro connection using a USB to serial adapter and then restarted (saved the preferences and Panel Pro tried to restart).
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My solution to get JMRI to startup was to:
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1) kill Java in the Windows Task Manager (may stop other Java applications running at the same time?).
2) Find the JMRI profile.xml and edit out all the references to the NCE connection (I used Notepad++ for the editing). Save the edited version back where it came from (best to make a copy first).
3) Startup JMRI Panel Pro.
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I then swapped to a Raspberry Pi running Pi OS/JMRI and the same USB to serial adapter to temporarily carry on my task.
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I didn't solve the Win11/JMRI connection problem but maybe that's where the startup sticks for some other types of JMRI to DCC command station connection?.
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Regards
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Nick
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Re: Jython script Error - obj has no attribute 'setIsForward'
Thanks for the speedy response Dave. Ok I'll add that but the throttle ID in the IM was 1111. Why is that invalid? It's not part of my roster but im using it or testing.
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Re: Jython script Error - obj has no attribute 'setIsForward'
Vinny,
You are not checking to see if the throttle is valid.
if self.throttle is not None: ? ? self.throttle.setIsForward(True) else: ? ? print 'Unable to get throttle for {}'.format(TrainsBreakInLocoIDNum) ? ? # do whatever to handle the error
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: [jmriusers] Jython script Error - obj has no attribute 'setIsForward' Date: Friday, April 11, 2025 2:05 PM
Team, attached snip of script where the error is occurring. Funny thing is that it works fine 90% of the time. --
Many thanks in advance!
Vinny DeRobertis ~ Apex, NC New York & Hudson Valley RR
Windows 7 Pro / Java 11 / JMRI v5.10 Command Station: Digikeijs DR5000. Booster: Digikeijs DR5033 (4) Samsung A7 10.4" Tablets Fully Kiosk/Engine Driver v2.37.187 DCC/DMX Gateway: Pricom LLS. LocoNet Input Modules: Digikeijs DR4088LN DCC Output Modules: Digikeijs DR4018 / Yamorc YD8116. Sensors: Model Train Technology: DETECTOR-HO. Turnout Motors: MTB MP1
Attachments:
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Re: Jython script Error - obj has no attribute 'setIsForward'
...just realized that after this error, now I cannot control Turnouts from the CPE. this happened last night for the first time ever. I rebooted TWICE and got things working again and now it has happened again. Nothing else in the system console other than the setisforward error.
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Jython script Error - obj has no attribute 'setIsForward'
Team, attached snip of script where the error is occurring. Funny thing is that it works fine 90% of the time.
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Many thanks in advance!
Vinny DeRobertis ~ Apex, NC
New York & Hudson Valley RR
Windows 7 Pro / Java 11 / JMRI v5.10
Command Station: Digikeijs DR5000.
Booster: Digikeijs DR5033
(4) Samsung A7 10.4" Tablets
Fully Kiosk/Engine Driver v2.37.187
DCC/DMX Gateway: Pricom LLS.
LocoNet Input Modules: Digikeijs DR4088LN
DCC Output Modules:
Digikeijs DR4018 / Yamorc YD8116.
Sensors: Model Train Technology: DETECTOR-HO.
Turnout Motors: MTB MP1
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Re: Have a question about having a train pick up a specific car
#operationspro
Another idea is to add a new "Car Type".? That's done via the Cars window, by selecting the "Add Car" button, getting that window, then clicking the Car Type "Edit" button.
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Type in your new car type, then click Add:
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This does NOT create a 'custom load', and allows you to use the default "L" or "E".??Set the necessary spur(s) to accept that Car Type.??
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This has worked for me quite well with cars in/out for a steel mill, automobile plant, and grain elevators.
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Best,
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CRZ
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Re: DecoderPro no loco roster
#roster
I am having a similar problem.? I've run decoder pro for many years and have a roster of over 100 engines.? Yesterday, I was using it and everything was working fine.? I then shut it down and about a 1/2 hour later restarted it and low an behold no roster.? If I look on my server I can see the directory and all of my engine files but I've tried rebuild roster and it didn't work.? Can someone walk me thru the steps to recover my roster?
Thanks, John Moonan
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Re: DecoderPro no loco roster
#roster
You must have changed something for this to happen.? Can you recall any changes at all you made to JMRI or your computer setup between when everything worked and you noticed your issues?
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Tom
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Dick,
I read it differently. I quote: "It became necessary to RE-install". That implies an existing installation, with (who knows?) any of panel files, scripts, roster, profiles, connected hardware. Which is why I stand by what I wrote. If there was nothing on the old machine/installation that needs salvaging, you are, of course, totally correct.
Wouter
Wouter,
He is not trying to get something that was working working again.
He has upgraded to a completely new machine and installed from
scratch. What I am suggesting is that he shouldn't try to
duplicate his old setup on a new machine, but rather to use
current software versions on a new setup. There is no reason that
I am aware of that JMRI 4.26 shouldn't be able to run on Java 17.
Dick :)
On 4/11/2025 9:50 AM, whmvd via
wrote:
I could not disagree more. Much better to get
working what was once working (albeit on other hardware), than
to try to upgrade from something that does not work, in the
(guaranteed vain) hope of a magic fix happening along the way.
It's just not good fault-finding procedure.
Only add an upgrade into the mix once 4.26 works
again. Java 8 plus jmri 4.26 is a perfectly feasible combo,
and there's no reason for a knee-jerk upgrade just because
newer stuff exists.
Wouter?
Richard,
You have a modern computer, but are running very old
software.
Uninstall Java 8. It is a decade old now and no longer
supported. Go to
to download Java 17 JRE. Once that is done, then follow
the JMRI release notes to upgrade JMRI to a current
version. Once that is done, then see if you still have
the issue. If so ask your question again.
Dick :)
On 4/10/2025 8:56 PM, rprdds24 via
wrote:
Recently it became necessary to reinstall Java and
JMRI. First, I checked that both programs were
uninstalled. I then installed Java? Version 8 Update
441 and JMRI Version 4.26+R381. Both were problem free
installs. I then tried to start JMRI so I could load
my roster. The Java icon and the DecoderPro icon
appeared in the taskbar and the small JMRI splash
screen appeared in the middle of my screen. That's as
far as the startup got. I've listed my equipment
below. What am I missing? I'd appreciate any help in
getting started.?
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Richard Richter
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Dell Lattude 3190 2-in-1 Laptop Computer
Microsoft Windows? 11 Pro
RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-NG Rev-a
Digitrax ZephyrXtra DCS 51 Command Station
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Test release 5.11.5 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download
#announcement
Test release 5.11.5 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download.
This is the next in a series of test releases that will culminate in a production release, hopefully in June 2025. It's really helpful when people download, install and use these test releases so we can find and fix any inadvertent new problems early.
If you are currently using JMRI 4.99.10 or earlier, there is an update process that we strongly recommend. See the release note section on updates:
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For more information on the issues, new features and bug fixes in 5.11.5 please see the release note:
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Note that JMRI is made available under the GNU General Public License. For more information, please see our copyright and licensing page.
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The download links, along with lots of other information which we hope you'll read, can be found on the release note page:
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Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions
Still need where speed can be controlled when using automation Tony
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 6:21?PM, AD <bklyns_baseball_club@...> wrote:
? Any info on how to find any other variables controlling speed during automation. The engines ,3 of them, ?dont run very fast even at 100% speed by ?throttle but the automation is running them at a hardly moving speed when i set speed to max in blocks and 200% in creation. ?Thus they stop when going over switches as they have no momentum to get them past the 1.5 inch throwing mechanism which does not have power.
Tony On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:42?PM, AD <bklyns_baseball_club@...> wrote:
? Dear Steve
Some of my engines run extremely slow in automation ?and run faster with throttle control. ?My speed in the block table is maximum and my speed in create train is 200% maximum.
Where else is speed during automation controlled?
Also i noticed the last table in the list of tables was something like warrants but it¡¯s no longer there. ?Why was that page eliminated and if it was warrents where are the warrents settings now
Tony
On Apr 8, 2025, at 10:10?PM, Steve_G via groups.io <RailRodder22@...> wrote:
? Tony
What you describe sounds like you are using "head only". Try loco by itself with the correct length and "full trian" detection.
Steve G.
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Wouter,
He is not trying to get something that was working working again.
He has upgraded to a completely new machine and installed from
scratch. What I am suggesting is that he shouldn't try to
duplicate his old setup on a new machine, but rather to use
current software versions on a new setup. There is no reason that
I am aware of that JMRI 4.26 shouldn't be able to run on Java 17.
Dick :)
On 4/11/2025 9:50 AM, whmvd via
groups.io wrote:
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I could not disagree more. Much better to get
working what was once working (albeit on other hardware), than
to try to upgrade from something that does not work, in the
(guaranteed vain) hope of a magic fix happening along the way.
It's just not good fault-finding procedure.
Only add an upgrade into the mix once 4.26 works
again. Java 8 plus jmri 4.26 is a perfectly feasible combo,
and there's no reason for a knee-jerk upgrade just because
newer stuff exists.
Wouter?
Richard,
You have a modern computer, but are running very old
software.
Uninstall Java 8. It is a decade old now and no longer
supported. Go to
to download Java 17 JRE. Once that is done, then follow
the JMRI release notes to upgrade JMRI to a current
version. Once that is done, then see if you still have
the issue. If so ask your question again.
Dick :)
On 4/10/2025 8:56 PM, rprdds24 via
wrote:
Recently it became necessary to reinstall Java and
JMRI. First, I checked that both programs were
uninstalled. I then installed Java? Version 8 Update
441 and JMRI Version 4.26+R381. Both were problem free
installs. I then tried to start JMRI so I could load
my roster. The Java icon and the DecoderPro icon
appeared in the taskbar and the small JMRI splash
screen appeared in the middle of my screen. That's as
far as the startup got. I've listed my equipment
below. What am I missing? I'd appreciate any help in
getting started.?
--
Richard Richter
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Dell Lattude 3190 2-in-1 Laptop Computer
Microsoft Windows? 11 Pro
RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-NG Rev-a
Digitrax ZephyrXtra DCS 51 Command Station
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Re: Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues
Don: ? True, everything seem to be working now. ? Thanks, ? Joe ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Shroyer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2025 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues? I've also posted before about my own experience with CV 217 and Paragon3s. I've mentioned the values that have worked for me with various models (20-70), and that the trick on the programming track seems to be to write the new value, and then read it back to confirm. If the the new value did write, you've found your setting.
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Re: Signal Mast Logic Translation Latency
#sml
So, what type of turnout are you using? -
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All signal masts are controlled by CT turnouts (CMRI Network). All signals correspond to their CT values as intended and function as intended when the system is not acting up.?
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- Hunter
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I could not disagree more. Much better to get working what was once working (albeit on other hardware), than to try to upgrade from something that does not work, in the (guaranteed vain) hope of a magic fix happening along the way. It's just not good fault-finding procedure.
Only add an upgrade into the mix once 4.26 works again. Java 8 plus jmri 4.26 is a perfectly feasible combo, and there's no reason for a knee-jerk upgrade just because newer stuff exists.
Wouter?
Richard,
You have a modern computer, but are running very old software.
Uninstall Java 8. It is a decade old now and no longer supported.
Go to
to download Java 17 JRE. Once that is done, then follow the JMRI
release notes to upgrade JMRI to a current version. Once that is
done, then see if you still have the issue. If so ask your
question again.
Dick :)
On 4/10/2025 8:56 PM, rprdds24 via
wrote:
Recently it became necessary to reinstall Java and JMRI.
First, I checked that both programs were uninstalled. I then
installed Java? Version 8 Update 441 and JMRI Version 4.26+R381.
Both were problem free installs. I then tried to start JMRI so I
could load my roster. The Java icon and the DecoderPro icon
appeared in the taskbar and the small JMRI splash screen
appeared in the middle of my screen. That's as far as the
startup got. I've listed my equipment below. What am I missing?
I'd appreciate any help in getting started.?
--
Richard Richter
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Dell Lattude 3190 2-in-1 Laptop Computer
Microsoft Windows? 11 Pro
RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-NG Rev-a
Digitrax ZephyrXtra DCS 51 Command Station
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Re: Virtual Signal Masts for End-Blocks
A signal mast that is only a SML destination mast will automatically display Stop.
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Virtual Signal Masts for End-Blocks Date: Friday, April 11, 2025 3:13 AM
All my spurs are terminated with virtual dwarf masts. All are set to stop and saved. My SML is auto-generated. The mast at the turnout throat rightly displays approach when the turnout is aligned to the ?spur. -- Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.4 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu Blog: ? Youtube:
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Re: Signal Mast Logic Translation Latency
#sml
On 4/11/2025 8:35 AM, Hunter via groups.io wrote: *"you would be using turnout driven signal heads which are then on a signal mast using signal heads, correct?" - *
I setup the signals as "signal masts" with no "signal heads" using the output mast matrix setup. So, "No, but yes". "No", because you are not uning "signal heads". But "YES", because you are using "Output Matrix Mast" signals which each can use multiple "Turnouts". So, what type of turnout are you using? If "LT*" Turnouts, that's probably your problem - see /g/jmriusers/message/241217 , where I provided a link that (usually) provides the cause of the problem, and provides a BUNCH of potential solutions...
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Tom Myrick
Bob Jacobsen