Don, seeking help, inquires: ? “Recently developed a problem with one of my older diesels, an N scale Bachmann with Econami factory installled. Def used is ECO-100 Diesel. Sound was fine, loco would not move.” ? Can you blow horn, turn lights off/on, etc.? ? If so, the brake may be set in the decoder, and/or other settings that impact startup/shutdown/speed increase/decrease, etc.? ? My bet is on the brake function.? Refer to the instructions that came with the loco.? Check the Soundtraxx website for additional in depth information about the Soundtraxx decoder products. “On the programming track, I loaded the loco's DecoderPro roster entry file and used the CVs tab to compare all values. No differences. Loco still not moving.” ? The compare process will only show differences between what is currently in the decoder, and what Decoder Pro has on file for it.? Totally read only, plus display of differences where noticed. ? “Did a Reset. Loco now moves.” ? Not surprised. ? “Rewrote all CVs from the loco's roster entry file. Loco now will again not move. ?To emphasize, these settings have worked fine for years.” ? Works fine right after a reset, but once the record in DP is written back to the loco it no longer works, correct?? Sounds more and more like it could be related to having brakes applied. ? “Are there some settings somewhere that DecoderPro can not see or change, except by reset?” ? Decoder Pro doesn’t know what should be set/reset on any given decoder.?? Decoder Pro issues a “reset” command to the decoder; the decoder then performs its own reset according to whatever logic is built into _that_ decoder. ? Depending on what a decoder and its logic need to do to support certain functionality there very well could be memory of some type in the decoder other than CVs that the decoder uses to support the functionality offered.? Whether or not memory allocated for such a purpose is cleared/reset/initialized by a decoder reset would be a function of the decoder design. ? I’d dig into the decoder documentation and the manuals on the Soundraxx site.? If you don’t find something there, you might want to check with Soundtraxx Tech Support. ? Best Regards, ? Steve ? Steve Haas Snoqualmie, WA
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
OK thanks Steve,
I'll try the work around.
Even a vague idea on when the fix will be available? JeanLouisDelestre@...
De: "Steve_G via groups.io" <RailRodder22@...> ?: [email protected]贰苍惫辞测é: Lundi 31 Mars 2025 01:34:09 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Chaining transits with a different locomotive #dispatcher Jean
I have a fix. Don't know when it will appear.
In the mean time, if the last thing you do is save the loading action, and don't read or write any other action, it should work.
Steve G
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two scripts using one sensor
Can two scripts use the same sensor?
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Sure i can include then in one script, but just asking.
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I have one scripted finished controlling signals.
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The other script I want to control the room lights, the sensor with trigger and API to turn on the room lights.
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Re: DecoderPro Opens every time as a new install
George,
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One - admittedly unlikely - suggestion that no-one has mentioned is to check if the account you use on the Windows PC at the museum is part of the "Guests" group.? If it is, then by design Windows will reverse any changes made during your session and start fresh the next time you login.
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To check this, you need to open a command prompt with admin access, then type the command:
net user <username>
then press Enter.? NOTE: <username> is the name you are logged in to Windows with.
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Down near the end of the list you should see information on "Local Group Memberships" and "Global Group Memberships".? If either of these list "Guests", then Windows is doing what it is supposed to do by resetting the account at each login.
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Agreed, but... when i meant random, I meant speed differences or clear.
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Re: convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel
John, ? If you are meaning, can you display things on both panels that are also displayed on the other panel, then yes. Like you could have a turnout on the LE pane and a toggle switch on the CPE pane for the exact same layout turnout. Same for sensors and other objects. ? For example, I used a LE panel to describe a layout and generate the signal logic. I then built a CPE panel to be the CTC control for that layout. They work together very well. ? Let me know if you have more questions about multiple panels. Just remember, they all are contained in a single file. That’s why sometimes when I’m explaining I use the word pane instead of panel. A single ‘panel files’ can contains many window panes of different tools, views, LE or CPE, etc… ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
Jean
I have a fix. Don't know when it will appear.
In the mean time, if the last thing you do is save the loading action, and don't read or write any other action, it should work.
Steve G
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The changes I’m incorporating can be handled with some minor manual edits to the model board. I’m not adding or deleting any sensors on the model board either, just modding some graphics.?
OTOH, it seems like the most straightforward way to edit the columns is with the GUI generation tool.?
David Olesen
Hackettstown NJ
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Jerry
Wow. That's a new one. Does LaunchJMRI.exe exist in the same directory as the install test.bat? Were you running in a powershell or command (cmd) window?
Steve G.
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Re: convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel
Ken, pardon my density... I'd like to know if I would be able to use the the same switches on both types of panels . John
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 5:41 PM, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote: John B, ? You can’t convert a LE panel to CPE. However, you can keep your LE panel and add a CPE pane for other use. Keep in mind that LE is more about what hardware is where, what relates to what, etc.. If you used it to create the signaling, you still need that. I’ve combined the use of different panes within the system for different needs. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel
John B, ? You can’t convert a LE panel to CPE. However, you can keep your LE panel and add a CPE pane for other use. Keep in mind that LE is more about what hardware is where, what relates to what, etc.. If you used it to create the signaling, you still need that. I’ve combined the use of different panes within the system for different needs. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel
jmri 5.11 Java 17 windows 11 Panel pro gurus,? I have 4 separate Layout Editor panels I'd like to make 1control panel to operate/dispatch the layout... can this be done? John? -- Sent from my gosh darn droid! Please excuse the fat finger mistakes... John
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Re: Problem loading Bachrus Speedometer
#bachrus
Bob - I did as you suggested.? My power cab is on Com7 and the Bachrus on Com6.?
I then Started Jmri on NEC-Pwr Cab and it started normally, showing a good connection to the Power Cab.? I deleted an seetin of Internal, and Bachrus.? Restarted Decoder Pro. I then went to Preferences-> Connections and created the Bachrus setup..? Restarted Dec Pro again. After it started, and showed the Power Cab connection green, I selected?Speedo from the selections ( top row).? The Speedo screen came up.? When I selected an engine and pressed 'Start' on the panel it ran the engine through all 28 speed steps.? Unfortunately the graph showed a flatline for the entire 28 steps!?? From What I see now, it the software appears to allbe working.? There's a problem with my speed roller communicating to Decoder Pro? which I'll have to investigate.
Thanks for you help!! JIm Little, MMR
Sorry to be slow replying, was trying to reproduce this without much luck.
It seems to be a problem with the start-up wizard.?
When you set up JMRI for just your Power Cab, is everything working OK?
If so, let’s avoid the start-up wizard and try to directly add the speedometer via the preferences:
1) make sure your setup is working with the Power Cab OK.
2) Open Preferences (might be called Settings) -> Connection pane.? There should just be one tab for your NCE connection
3) Click the “+” sign next to that tab to create a 2nd connection
4) Fill that out, selecting Bachrus speedometer.
5) Is COM6 one of the port choices?? If so select it.? If not, we’ll have to figure out why.
6) Save and restart.
Bob
> On Mar 26, 2025, at 1:06?PM, James Little via <jlittletrains=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Bob;
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> When I press OK on the message, it then goes back to the "Finish and Connect" screen.? When I press Finish again the message appears again, so it's looping.
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> When I press Cancel, it goes back to the initial startup screen and Gettin Started in RED.
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> I then restarted JMRI and selected my Power Cab.? The program opened, with no sign of the Bachrus connection in Preferences.? I then added Bachrus, saved the page and restarted JMRI.? Now i get the screen of Error Initializing Decoder Pro. saying it cannot create a connection to Speedo (A).? Serial Port COM6 not found.?
> Checking my Device Manager it shows the Bachrus Speedo Interface (COM6).
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> So I'm not sure where or what in JMRI isn't making the connection.
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> Jim Little, MMR
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> On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 6:05?PM Bob Jacobsen via <rgj1927=[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry for the problem.? Looks like it might be an issue with the startup wizard
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> What happens if you press OK on that message, then press “Finish” on the underlying window?
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> If you then close and restart JMRI, what happens?
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> Bob
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> > On Mar 25, 2025, at 3:38?PM, James Little via <jlittletrains=[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Hello;
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> > I recently tried installing my Bachrus Speedometer on a(newer) laptop with JMRI on it.
> > It has Win 10; JMRI 5.11.4, NCE Power Cab (latest chip v1.65b) all installed.? Power Cab runs fine on system.
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> > I had trouble loading the supplied driver (from 2006),? but after discussing it with a good friend who is a Windows Certified Technician, he walked me through a procedure to instal a "legacy" driver.? Windows now sees the unit? ( in Device Manager).? I walked through the JMRI setup for Bachrus speedometer,? all the way through to the (almost) End.? ?This message appeared, which to me says there's something in JMRI that need updating...?
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> > <JMRI Bachrus? Prob.png>
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> > As what JMRI need is WAAAAAY beyond my paygrade, is there someone out there (preferably a develope)? who I could work with to resolve this?
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> > Jim Little MMR
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Check CV19, should be 0 if not in consist.
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 05:51 PM, Karl Johan Lisby wrote:
I don’t suppose you are up for trying a totally different approach? But I too was trying a few different aproaches to automate trains via JMRI 10 years ago on my very small layout.
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I ended up creating signal controlled warrants and a Jython script.
I'm developing my automation based on JMRI Warrants and Signals with SML. Warrants write a script for each autotrain which can be easily modified on the screen.
I can hold an autotrain with a signal at danger until I want it to depart.
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
This is a common problem when moving the signal heads and SSL to signal masts and SML. ?For various reasons, it was common to include the turnout with the track attached to the points end. ?This means that there is no block boundary for signal masts.
For Dispatcher automation purposes, the 5.11.2 (and later) JMRI test release has a "ghost" block feature. ?This makes it possible to create a block for the turnout with an internal sensor. ?This provides the block boundary for a signal mast at the points end. ?See??for information on ghost blocks.
After creating the ghost block, the signal mast logic (SML) for the affected signal mast will need to be updated.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Automatic Dispatching
Date: Sunday, March 30, 2025 3:05 PM
I"ve been studying the JMRI manual an experimenting, and I've come up with a new question related to auto trains and Signal Masts:
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Every time I ask to set Signal Masts, the window offers only the Masts on the frog end of the Turnout.? Am I correct if I assume this is because the poitns end of the turnout is part of the Block connected to the points?
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I had my signals defined by Signal Heads.? For Turnout LT501, for instance, IH 501A controlled the continuing path and IH 50B the diverging path from the points end, and IH501C the continuing path and IH501D the diverging path from the frog end.
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If the Turnout is not its own discrete Block,how do I set a Signal Mast for trains leaving the Block via this Turnout?
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Oh, and will I be able to use the Mast to operate auto trains?
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
Another question, my old signal heads changed aspects as I opened and closed the Turnout.? When I set Masts instead of the Heads, they don't seem to respond to turnout postion.? What have I misse here?
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
I"ve been studying the JMRI manual an experimenting, and I've come up with a new question related to auto trains and Signal Masts:
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Every time I ask to set Signal Masts, the window offers only the Masts on the frog end of the Turnout.? Am I correct if I assume this is because the poitns end of the turnout is part of the Block connected to the points?
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I had my signals defined by Signal Heads.? For Turnout LT501, for instance, IH 501A controlled the continuing path and IH 50B the diverging path from the points end, and IH501C the continuing path and IH501D the diverging path from the frog end.
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If the Turnout is not its own discrete Block,how do I set a Signal Mast for trains leaving the Block via this Turnout?
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Oh, and will I be able to use the Mast to operate auto trains?
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I would expect that the aspects will be set based in signaling rules. ?Random does not make sense.
Dave Sand
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From: "Canadian Locomotive Logistics via groups.io" <CanadianLocomotiveLogistics= [email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Script output delayed #scripting
Date: Sunday, March 30, 2025 1:00 PM
Having more sensor and AUI would be a goo thing... but for now this is good.
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Most people dont adhire to the signal rules anyways.
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Can you explain to be about varibles?
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for example...
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masts.getSignalMast('Signal Mast, Table 10, Track 5, West Bound').setAspect('Limited Clear')
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I'd like to change 'Limited Clear' to other aspects randomly.
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 06:06 PM, Steve_G wrote:
Steve G.
installtest.bat
Testing for 32/64-bit Windows
Running on 64-bit Windows
Testing for 32/64-bit process
Running as a 64-bit process
Testing for Java working
openjdk version "17.0.14" 2025-01-21
OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.14+7 (build 17.0.14+7)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.14+7 (build 17.0.14+7, mixed mode, sharing)
Java is correctly working.
Press any key to continue . . .
Now testing JMRI
'LaunchJMRI' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Something is wrong with invoking JMRI. Check JMRI installation.
Press any key to continue . . .
Test complete
Press any key to continue . . .
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This is what I got when I ran Install.bat
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How do I find - trouble shoot JMRI Installation?
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Jerry F
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