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Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

 

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Don,?

On Digitrax, any "universal" consist is inside your command station, not the throttle.? Changing throttle doesn't alter it.??
Check the "slots" in the command station.? ?JMRI has a slot monitor for Digitrax, which may show something.?

- Nigel


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From "Don Shroyer via groups.io" <Donshroyer@...>
Date 31/03/2025 11:53:40
Subject Re: [jmriusers] Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

Steve G,
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I have played with Universal Consisting before, but not involving this loco.
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Tried controlling also using a UT6, instead of my DT602D, to try to eliminate such a variable. Same result.
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Regards
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Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

 

Steve G,
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I have played with Universal Consisting before, but not involving this loco.
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Tried controlling also using a UT6, instead of my DT602D, to try to eliminate such a variable. Same result.
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Regards
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Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

 

Don
Does the command station think it's in a consist as a non lead loco.
Steve G.
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Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

 

Tony,
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Are you saying that CV 19 would somehow elude the Compare?
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Steve,
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You read the part where I say the settings had been working... for years in fact, right? No mysterious brake, BEMF, consist, or the like. And Econamies don't, to my knowledge, have Drive Hold, Reverser Centered, or such features that could even accidentally be activated.
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Regards


Printing Switchlists #operationspro

 

I've got 4 trains to run and I want to build the trains and print the switchlists for the engineers before the operating session starts. In doing so I noticed that one boxcar was a pickup and move by the first train thru that yard, but a second train had the same box car to be moved also. Am I doing this correctly or is there some way to avoid this occurring pls?


Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

 

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Don, seeking help, inquires:

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“Recently developed a problem with one of my older diesels, an N scale Bachmann with Econami factory installled. Def used is ECO-100 Diesel.

Sound was fine, loco would not move.”

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Can you blow horn, turn lights off/on, etc.?

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If so, the brake may be set in the decoder, and/or other settings that impact startup/shutdown/speed increase/decrease, etc.?

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My bet is on the brake function.? Refer to the instructions that came with the loco.? Check the Soundtraxx website for additional in depth information about the Soundtraxx decoder products.

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“On the programming track, I loaded the loco's DecoderPro roster entry file and used the CVs tab to compare all values. No differences. Loco still not moving.”

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The compare process will only show differences between what is currently in the decoder, and what Decoder Pro has on file for it.? Totally read only, plus display of differences where noticed.

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“Did a Reset. Loco now moves.”

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Not surprised.

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“Rewrote all CVs from the loco's roster entry file. Loco now will again not move. ?To emphasize, these settings have worked fine for years.”

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Works fine right after a reset, but once the record in DP is written back to the loco it no longer works, correct?? Sounds more and more like it could be related to having brakes applied.

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Are there some settings somewhere that DecoderPro can not see or change, except by reset?”

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Decoder Pro doesn’t know what should be set/reset on any given decoder.?? Decoder Pro issues a “reset” command to the decoder; the decoder then performs its own reset according to whatever logic is built into _that_ decoder.

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Depending on what a decoder and its logic need to do to support certain functionality there very well could be memory of some type in the decoder other than CVs that the decoder uses to support the functionality offered.? Whether or not memory allocated for such a purpose is cleared/reset/initialized by a decoder reset would be a function of the decoder design.

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I’d dig into the decoder documentation and the manuals on the Soundraxx site.? If you don’t find something there, you might want to check with Soundtraxx Tech Support.

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Best Regards,

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Steve

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Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA


Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive #dispatcher

 

OK thanks Steve,

I'll try the work around.

Even a vague idea on when the fix will be available?

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Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Chaining transits with a different locomotive #dispatcher

Jean
I have a fix. Don't know when it will appear.
In the mean time, if the last thing you do is save the loading action, and don't read or write any other action, it should work.
Steve G


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two scripts using one sensor

 

Can two scripts use the same sensor?
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Sure i can include then in one script, but just asking.
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I have one scripted finished controlling signals.
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The other script I want to control the room lights, the sensor with trigger and API to turn on the room lights.


Re: DecoderPro Opens every time as a new install

 

George,
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One - admittedly unlikely - suggestion that no-one has mentioned is to check if the account you use on the Windows PC at the museum is part of the "Guests" group.? If it is, then by design Windows will reverse any changes made during your session and start fresh the next time you login.
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To check this, you need to open a command prompt with admin access, then type the command:
net user <username>
then press Enter.? NOTE: <username> is the name you are logged in to Windows with.
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Down near the end of the list you should see information on "Local Group Memberships" and "Global Group Memberships".? If either of these list "Guests", then Windows is doing what it is supposed to do by resetting the account at each login.


Re: Script output delayed #scripting

 

Agreed, but... when i meant random, I meant speed differences or clear.


Re: convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel

 

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John,

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If you are meaning, can you display things on both panels that are also displayed on the other panel, then yes. Like you could have a turnout on the LE pane and a toggle switch on the CPE pane for the exact same layout turnout. Same for sensors and other objects.

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For example, I used a LE panel to describe a layout and generate the signal logic. I then built a CPE panel to be the CTC control for that layout. They work together very well.

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Let me know if you have more questions about multiple panels. Just remember, they all are contained in a single file. That’s why sometimes when I’m explaining I use the word pane instead of panel. A single ‘panel files’ can contains many window panes of different tools, views, LE or CPE, etc…

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive #dispatcher

 

Jean
I have a fix. Don't know when it will appear.
In the mean time, if the last thing you do is save the loading action, and don't read or write any other action, it should work.
Steve G


Re: CTC Model Board

 

The changes I’m incorporating can be handled with some minor manual edits to the model board. I’m not adding or deleting any sensors on the model board either, just modding some graphics.?

OTOH, it seems like the most straightforward way to edit the columns is with the GUI generation tool.?

David Olesen
Hackettstown NJ


Re: JMRI Wont Start

 

Jerry
Wow. That's a new one. Does LaunchJMRI.exe exist in the same directory as the install test.bat? Were you running in a powershell or command (cmd) window?
Steve G.
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Re: convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel

 

Ken,
pardon my density...
I'd like to know if I would be able to use the the same switches on both types of panels .
John


On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 5:41 PM, Ken Cameron
<kcameron@...> wrote:

John B,

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You can’t convert a LE panel to CPE. However, you can keep your LE panel and add a CPE pane for other use. Keep in mind that LE is more about what hardware is where, what relates to what, etc.. If you used it to create the signaling, you still need that. I’ve combined the use of different panes within the system for different needs.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel

 

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John B,

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You can’t convert a LE panel to CPE. However, you can keep your LE panel and add a CPE pane for other use. Keep in mind that LE is more about what hardware is where, what relates to what, etc.. If you used it to create the signaling, you still need that. I’ve combined the use of different panes within the system for different needs.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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convert Layout Editor panel to control panel editor panel

 

jmri 5.11
Java 17
windows 11
Panel pro gurus,?
I have 4 separate Layout Editor panels I'd like to make 1control panel to operate/dispatch the layout...
can this be done?
John?


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Re: Problem loading Bachrus Speedometer #bachrus

 

Bob - I did as you suggested.? My power cab is on Com7 and the Bachrus on Com6.?

I then Started Jmri on NEC-Pwr Cab and it started normally, showing a good connection to the Power Cab.? I deleted an seetin of Internal, and Bachrus.? Restarted Decoder Pro.
I then went to Preferences-> Connections and created the Bachrus setup..? Restarted Dec Pro again.
After it started, and showed the Power Cab connection green, I selected?Speedo from the selections ( top row).? The Speedo screen came up.? When I selected an engine and pressed 'Start' on the panel it ran the engine through all 28 speed steps.? Unfortunately the graph showed a flatline for the entire 28 steps!??
From What I see now, it the software appears to allbe working.? There's a problem with my speed roller communicating to Decoder Pro? which I'll have to investigate.

Thanks for you help!!
JIm Little, MMR


On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 5:51?AM Bob Jacobsen via <rgj1927=[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry to be slow replying, was trying to reproduce this without much luck.

It seems to be a problem with the start-up wizard.?

When you set up JMRI for just your Power Cab, is everything working OK?

If so, let’s avoid the start-up wizard and try to directly add the speedometer via the preferences:

1) make sure your setup is working with the Power Cab OK.
2) Open Preferences (might be called Settings) -> Connection pane.? There should just be one tab for your NCE connection
3) Click the “+” sign next to that tab to create a 2nd connection
4) Fill that out, selecting Bachrus speedometer.
5) Is COM6 one of the port choices?? If so select it.? If not, we’ll have to figure out why.
6) Save and restart.

Bob


> On Mar 26, 2025, at 1:06?PM, James Little via <jlittletrains=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Bob;
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> When I press OK on the message, it then goes back to the "Finish and Connect" screen.? When I press Finish again the message appears again, so it's looping.
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> When I press Cancel, it goes back to the initial startup screen and Gettin Started in RED.
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> I then restarted JMRI and selected my Power Cab.? The program opened, with no sign of the Bachrus connection in Preferences.? I then added Bachrus, saved the page and restarted JMRI.? Now i get the screen of Error Initializing Decoder Pro. saying it cannot create a connection to Speedo (A).? Serial Port COM6 not found.?
> Checking my Device Manager it shows the Bachrus Speedo Interface (COM6).
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> So I'm not sure where or what in JMRI isn't making the connection.
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> Jim Little, MMR
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> On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 6:05?PM Bob Jacobsen via <rgj1927=[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry for the problem.? Looks like it might be an issue with the startup wizard
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> What happens if you press OK on that message, then press “Finish” on the underlying window?
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> If you then close and restart JMRI, what happens?
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> Bob
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> > On Mar 25, 2025, at 3:38?PM, James Little via <jlittletrains=[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Hello;
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> > I recently tried installing my Bachrus Speedometer on a(newer) laptop with JMRI on it.
> > It has Win 10; JMRI 5.11.4, NCE Power Cab (latest chip v1.65b) all installed.? Power Cab runs fine on system.
> >
> > I had trouble loading the supplied driver (from 2006),? but after discussing it with a good friend who is a Windows Certified Technician, he walked me through a procedure to instal a "legacy" driver.? Windows now sees the unit? ( in Device Manager).? I walked through the JMRI setup for Bachrus speedometer,? all the way through to the (almost) End.? ?This message appeared, which to me says there's something in JMRI that need updating...?
> >
> > <JMRI Bachrus? Prob.png>
> >
> > As what JMRI need is WAAAAAY beyond my paygrade, is there someone out there (preferably a develope)? who I could work with to resolve this?
> >
> > Jim Little MMR
> >
>


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Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset #decoderpro

 

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Check CV19, should be 0 if not in consist.

Tony


Re: Automatic Dispatching

 

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 05:51 PM, Karl Johan Lisby wrote:
I don’t suppose you are up for trying a totally different approach? But I too was trying a few different aproaches to automate trains via JMRI 10 years ago on my very small layout.
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I ended up creating signal controlled warrants and a Jython script.
I'm developing my automation based on JMRI Warrants and Signals with SML. Warrants write a script for each autotrain which can be easily modified on the screen.
I can hold an autotrain with a signal at danger until I want it to depart.
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