You said you used 50:1 for the starting point. But later you mention switching between the PH5 and the PowerCab. What address did you set when using the PowerCab? It only works for cab 3 to 10. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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First question, does the ‘Show Cabs’ show the existence of the AIU? This is proving the address on the cab bus.
I’ll check this tomorrow evening after work.? ? Second question, in JMRI, when you created a sensor, which form of hardware address did you use: your calculated value or the form of cabid:pin#?
I created the sensors by inputting 50:1 thru 50:14 and 51:1 thru 51:14 by selecting the first sensor and the clicking on: create 14 in the series. this created 28 sensors. I tied these to the associated blocks . When i manually set any of the sensors to active, ?the blocks display properly on the layout editor.? The second form insures the right value for the sensor. ? Third, does the LED on each AIU pin show a change of dark to lit??
All AIU ports 1 thru 14 on both AIUs are using BD20s for current detection. Note: when i utilize my NCE PowerCAB everything works perfectly. It’s only when i swap out the PowerCab with the PowerPro that i lose all the AIU reporting data. This proves to me the AIUs and BD20 are operating properly and that the problem lies in either the PowerPro sending AIU data or JMRI receiving data AIU data from a PowerPro unit.? ? Fourth, which devices are tied to the AIU board?
NCE BD20s on all ports.?
Cheers Geo
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? Georgia, ? Now you have a good version that should be able to read, we now can go deeper on how JMRI is or isn’t seeing the AIU. ? First question, does the ‘Show Cabs’ show the existence of the AIU? This is proving the address on the cab bus. ? Second question, in JMRI, when you created a sensor, which form of hardware address did you use: your calculated value or the form of cabid:pin#? The second form insures the right value for the sensor. ? Third, does the LED on each AIU pin show a change of dark to lit? ? Fourth, which devices are tied to the AIU board? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Georgia, ? Now you have a good version that should be able to read, we now can go deeper on how JMRI is or isn’t seeing the AIU. ? First question, does the ‘Show Cabs’ show the existence of the AIU? This is proving the address on the cab bus. ? Second question, in JMRI, when you created a sensor, which form of hardware address did you use: your calculated value or the form of cabid:pin#? The second form insures the right value for the sensor. ? Third, does the LED on each AIU pin show a change of dark to lit? ? Fourth, which devices are tied to the AIU board? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Hi, i’ll send everything over the weekend.? I completed the firmware update; now reads jan 5 2025. NCE system is working fine but still no joy on the AIU signal data. ?I reset everything, rebooted tried a few times no go. ?I even deleted all the sensors in the sensor table and created new ones. Didn’t help.? Cheers
Capt Georgia Hilton USCG Instructor? Maritime Professional Training Ft Lauderdale, FL 917-279-4413 GHilton@... CaptainGeorgia.com
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? One idea I have to help figure this sort of thing out is to make a zip of the log directory in JMRI then upload it to the website files under ‘problems being worked on’ for us to review. ? Two things would come from that. First where you were working last. What version of Java etc… It may also record some issue on trying to start that might give a clue too. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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One idea I have to help figure this sort of thing out is to make a zip of the log directory in JMRI then upload it to the website files under ‘problems being worked on’ for us to review. ? Two things would come from that. First where you were working last. What version of Java etc… It may also record some issue on trying to start that might give a clue too. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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That did it Dave. many thanks. Now I might be bothering you about a dispatcher issue soon.
Thanks again
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Re: Error message “Could not locate configuration file default_lcf.xml
You should post the whole console output, not just what you think is pertinent. -- Peter Ulvestad Linux Mint 22.1, JMRI 5.11.3plus, Java 21.0.5 JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers ) JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Re: Error message “Could not locate configuration file default_lcf.xml
Thank you very much, Dave.
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Here's the output from the System console. version 5.5.3
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19:36:13.443 [AWT-EventQueue-0] ERROR jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler
java.lang.NullPointerException: null
? ? at java.io.File.<init>(File.java:278) ~[?:?]
? ? at jmri.jmrit.XmlFileLocationAction.getLocationsReport(XmlFileLocationAction.java:162) ~[JMRI/:?]
? ? at jmri.jmrit.XmlFileLocationAction.actionPerformed(XmlFileLocationAction.java:133) ~[JMRI/:?]
? ? at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1972) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2313) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:405) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:262) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(AbstractButton.java:374) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1028) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1072) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6626) ~[?:?]
? ? at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3389) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6391) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2266) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:5001) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2324) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4833) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4948) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:4575) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:4516) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2310) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2780) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4833) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:775) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(EventQueue.java:720) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(EventQueue.java:714) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:399) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(ProtectionDomain.java:86) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(ProtectionDomain.java:97) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventQueue$5.run(EventQueue.java:747) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventQueue$5.run(EventQueue.java:745) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:399) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(ProtectionDomain.java:86) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:744) ~[?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:203) [?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:124) [?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:113) [?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:109) [?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:101) [?:?]
? ? at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:90) [?:?]
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Dave,
You might try doing a clean JMRI install.
- Remove JMRI using the Windows control panel.
- Remove the left over JMRI directory at C:\Program Files (x86).
- Reboot.
There should be no JMRI icons on the desktop.
Install JMRI 5.10
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Upgrading #upgrading
Date: Wednesday, March 05, 2025 1:39 PM
Dave, thanks for replying. Standard JMRI defaults as to the downloading.?
I just tried run as administrator, same thing. Tried 5.8, same thing, will not open.
Reinstalled 5.6 and life is good. I need 5.10 because another layout I'm helping had his dispatcher break as far as when trains were supposed to stop, and I need to be on the same version so I can troubleshoot that issue here.
Thanks Dave
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Dave, thanks for replying. Standard JMRI defaults as to the downloading.?
I just tried run as administrator, same thing. Tried 5.8, same thing, will not open.
Reinstalled 5.6 and life is good. I need 5.10 because another layout I'm helping had his dispatcher break as far as when trains were supposed to stop, and I need to be on the same version so I can troubleshoot that issue here.
Thanks Dave
Inspector Dave
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Dave,
Are these standard installs using the defaults including for all users. ?Is the Windows user doing the install an administrator?
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Upgrading #upgrading
Date: Wednesday, March 05, 2025 1:11 PM
I'm sorry, exe file. I just tried 5.8 and the same thing happens. Hourglass then nothing. Windows 10 is the OS.
Thanks
Inspector Dave
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I'm sorry, exe file. I just tried 5.8 and the same thing happens. Hourglass then nothing. Windows 10 is the OS.
Thanks
Inspector Dave
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Jim,
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If you ask in OperationsPro for 3 locomotives, that can be 3 locomotives in a consist.? A consist is just a group of locomotives that work together.? There's also the option of having the program place 3 individual locomotives together to form a new consist.? Requesting one locomotive never equals three locomotives in a consist.? Requesting one locomotive is exactly that, one locomotive and no more.
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When you consist in JMRI Ops does the requirements for a train change ? Another word If a train requires one locomotive and you consist three in JMRI Operations that equals one it's happy because they are consisted. If the train requires three and they are not consisted it would have to be three individual loco's ? My question is how does consisting play into train requirements as far as the count of Loco's for train.?
Thanks JimK
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Re: Looking for help to set-up proper Locations for my RR.
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Thanks Pete!? You've given me a Very detailed suggestion on how to accomplish my needed traffic movements.? I will implement your ideas and see how it goes.? Thanks again!? Jon.
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Dave,
What zip file? ?What OS are you using?
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] #upgrading
Date: Wednesday, March 05, 2025 11:14 AM
I'm trying to upgrade from 5.6 to 5.10. After I download the zip file, everything looks fine on my desktop. The new JMRI DecoderPro and PanelPro icons are there, but when I click on either one, I see an hourglass as if trying to start, then nothing.
I have 5.6 working just fine so the JAVA version is correct. Any suggestions?
Thank you all for this fantastic program.
later
Inspector Dave
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I'm trying to upgrade from 5.6 to 5.10. After I download the zip file, everything looks fine on my desktop. The new JMRI DecoderPro and PanelPro icons are there, but when I click on either one, I see an hourglass as if trying to start, then nothing.
I have 5.6 working just fine so the JAVA version is correct. Any suggestions?
Thank you all for this fantastic program.
later
Inspector Dave
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Re: migrating from RR&C Train Controller 5.5 B1
You're not likely to find any export path from Traincontroller to another application (of which JMRI is just one of many possible).
So, what is your question ?
Upgrading JMRI between releases is usually no problem. There are sometimes issues when someone tries to jump many releases in one hit, without doing all the steps for each upgrade, and then had to untangle and do it properly.
But to replace your Traincontroller setup, you're? starting again, and need to first work out if JMRI can do the tasks you want completing. And then start constructing things inside JMRI
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I am curious as to the possibility of migrating from RR&C Train Controller 5.5 B1 to JMRI. I have stumbled across messages relating upgrading form old JMRI to the new version and recommendations to start from scratch, aka the big bang.
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Is there an upgrade path? Google search returns verbiage about xml export and import. I have not found a layout and config export in RR&C.
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Dale Grice
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migrating from RR&C Train Controller 5.5 B1
Hello esteemed group,
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I am curious as to the possibility of migrating from RR&C Train Controller 5.5 B1 to JMRI. I have stumbled across messages relating upgrading form old JMRI to the new version and recommendations to start from scratch, aka the big bang.
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Is there an upgrade path? Google search returns verbiage about xml export and import. I have not found a layout and config export in RR&C.
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Dale Grice
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