Bob et al - SUCCESS! Thanks for the quick turnaround.
Fred Dalzell
On Aug 29, 2024 at 12:52?PM -0600, Bob Jacobsen <rgj1927@...>, wrote:
Fred
I believe this is fixed now. Could you please try #1995 or later:
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
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Bob,
Build 1995 works.
Dave Sand
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----- Original message ----- From: Bob Jacobsen <rgj1927@...> To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Mac Development Builds Fail to Launch Date: Thursday, August 29, 2024 12:52 PM Fred I believe this is fixed now. Could you please try #1995 or later: Bob On Aug 29, 2024, at 12:31?PM, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
Fred,
The signing/notarization of the DMG is not working.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: "Fred Dalzell via groups.io" <dalzellf@...>
To: JMRI users <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Mac Development Builds Fail to Launch
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2024 11:17 AM
The last 2 development builds from packages 1991 and 1992 failed to launch on either Intel or Apple Silicon computers. 1990 works fine.
Fred Dalzell — Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Fred I believe this is fixed now. Could you please try #1995 or later: Bob On Aug 29, 2024, at 12:31?PM, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
Fred,
The signing/notarization of the DMG is not working.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: "Fred Dalzell via groups.io" <dalzellf@...>
To: JMRI users <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Mac Development Builds Fail to Launch
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2024 11:17 AM
The last 2 development builds from packages 1991 and 1992 failed to launch on either Intel or Apple Silicon computers. 1990 works fine.
Fred Dalzell — Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Re: Question about sound only decoders
As the SoundTraxx reply to my querry in 2020 didn't seem to cover everyone's concerns, let me clarify.? The TSU-2 decoder does not need a motor or other load to accept programming, that includes reading and writing, and also includes programming on the programming track - I use Digitrax hardware, a PR-3, and JMRI.? I use both the programming track and programming on the main.? The loco in question was a diesel, so no chuffing was affected (generally a timing issue with TSU decoders.)? Obviously, if one wants all the realism available with this modern technology, sound wise, one should put a motor in the B unit (in my case).? The ability to program the device without a motor or resistor is great IMHO!
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Thanks.
John S.?
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Fred,
The signing/notarization of the DMG is not working.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
Subject: [jmriusers] Mac Development Builds Fail to Launch
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2024 11:17 AM
The last 2 development builds from packages 1991 and 1992 failed to launch on either Intel or Apple Silicon computers. 1990 works fine.
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1992 works for Linux, so it's probably restricted to a Mac file issue.
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Peter Ulvestad
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The last 2 development builds from packages 1991 and 1992 failed to launch on either Intel or Apple Silicon computers. 1990 works fine.
Fred Dalzell
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Thanks for all the help.? I removed 5.6 and downloaded and installed 5.8.? During the 5.8 install, the default installation location was "C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI".? I am pretty sure it was "C:\Program Files" when I did 5.6 because I didn't change it and that's where it was installed.? I now wonder why it used the incorrect default in 5.6, but I suppose that is academic now.
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However, it still does not work.? The PanelPro icon has
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Target: ?"C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe" apps.PanelPro.PanelPro
Start In: ?"C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI"
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I can confirm that JMRI is installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI
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I went into the command window and did LaunchJMRI /debug /noisy apps.PanelPro.PanelPro and this time it brought up a window with a trace.? ? Here are the results of this trace.? I don't see anything that sticks out but perhaps one of the old heads on here can!? The correct user directory is C:\Users\dbpau and there is a JMRI directory there with a profiles.xml file that has a line <profile id="Paul_Family_Railroad.3f61a3e5" path="settings:Paul_Family_Railroad.jmri/" />?and Paul_Family_Railroad.jmri does exist and has my JMRI panel XML file in it.
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CommandLine: launchjmri ?/debug /noisy apps.PanelPro.PanelPro
Default options:?
AppName: PanelPro
Class: apps.PanelPro.PanelPro
Parameters:?
Noisy: 1
Force32bit: 0
Profile:?
Alternate launcher: 1
Testing for x64...
Result: 1
Setting x64 registry view...
Checking local path [C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jre\bin\java.exe]
Checking default java as Local not found
program response [openjdk full version "11.0.23+9-LTS"
]
Default java is [11.0.23+9-LTS]
Useing default java
Switching off alternate launcher...
JavaPath: java.exe
JExePath: java.exe
PhysicalMemory: 8082m
Check if more than 4GB memory
More than 4GB
InitHeap: 96m
MinMemory: 192m
MaxMemory: 2020m
Checking maximum heap size...
...finished
Checking user.home...
Reading Desktop Shell Folder registry key...
...read: C:\Users\dbpau\OneDrive\Desktop
Checking if equal to %USERPROFILE%...
Comparing: C:\Users\dbpau\OneDrive
to: C:\Users\dbpau
user.home not OK
Set user.home to %USERPROFILE%: C:\Users\dbpau
Options: ? -noverify -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Djava.security.policy=security.policy -Djogamp.gluegen.UseTempJarCache=false -Djinput.plugins=net.bobis.jinput.hidraw.HidRawEnvironmentPlugin -Dswing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel -Djava.library.path=.;lib\x64;lib -Djava.rmi.server.codebase=file:java/classes/ -Dsun.java2d.noddraw -Xms96m -Xmx2020m -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Duser.home="C:\Users\dbpau" -Dpython.home="C:\Users\dbpau\JMRI\systemfiles"
ClassPath: .;classes;jmri.jar;lib\apiguardian-api-1.1.0.jar;lib\batik-anim-1.14.jar;lib\batik-awt-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-bridge-1.14.jar;lib\batik-constants-1.14.jar;lib\batik-css-1.14.jar;lib\batik-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-ext-1.14.jar;lib\batik-gvt-1.14.jar;lib\batik-i18n-1.14.jar;lib\batik-js-1.8.jar;lib\batik-parser-1.14.jar;lib\batik-script-1.14.jar;lib\batik-shared-resources-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svg-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svggen-1.14.jar;lib\batik-transcoder-1.17.jar;lib\batik-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-xml-1.14.jar;lib\beansbinding-1.2.1.jar;lib\bidibwizard-common-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-model-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\bluecove-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-bluez-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-gpl-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\commons-collections4-4.4.jar;lib\commons-compress-1.18.jar;lib\commons-csv-1.9.0.jar;lib\commons-io-2.11.0.jar;lib\commons-lang3-3.7.jar;lib\commons-logging-1.2.jar;lib\commons-net-3.9.0.jar;lib\commons-text-1.2.jar;lib\eventbus-1.4.jar;lib\gluegen-rt.jar;lib\hid4java-0.5.0.jar;lib\jackson-annotations-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-core-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-databind-2.13.4.2.jar;lib\JavaVersionCheckWindow.jar;lib\javax.activation-api-1.2.0.jar;lib\javax.servlet-api-3.1.0.jar;lib\jaxb-api-2.3.1.jar;lib\jaxb-core-2.3.0.1.jar;lib\jaxb-impl-2.3.2.jar;lib\jbidibc-core-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-messages-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-net-serial-over-tcp-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-purejavacomm-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-serial-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\jdom2-2.0.6.jar;lib\jetty-http-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-io-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-security-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-util-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jgoodies-binding-2.13.0.jar;lib\jgoodies-common-1.8.1.jar;lib\jhall.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9-natives-all.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9.jar;lib\jinputvalidator-0.8.0.jar;lib\jlfgr-1_0.jar;lib\jmdns-3.5.5.jar;lib\jmri.script.jsr223graalpython.jar;lib\jna-5.13.0.jar;lib\jna-platform-5.13.0.jar;lib\joal.jar;lib\jSerialComm-2.10.4.jar;lib\json-schema-validator-1.0.28.jar;lib\jsoup-1.15.3.jar;lib\jsplitbutton-1.3.1.jar;lib\jul-to-slf4j-2.0.7.jar;lib\jython-standalone-2.7.2.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-arm.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86.jar;lib\log4j-api-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-core-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-slf4j2-impl-2.20.0.jar;lib\mailapi.jar;lib\openlcb.jar;lib\org-openide-util-lookup-RELEASE150.jar;lib\org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3-1.2.5.jar;lib\pi4j-core-1.2.jar;lib\purejavacomm-1.0.5.jar;lib\slf4j-api-2.0.7.jar;lib\thumbnailator-0.4.8.jar;lib\usb-api-1.0.2.jar;lib\usb4java-1.3.0.jar;lib\usb4java-javax-1.3.0.jar;lib\vecmath-1.5.2.jar;lib\websocket-api-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-client-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-common-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\xAPlib.jar;lib\xbee-java-library-1.3.1.jar;lib\xercesImpl-2.12.2.jar;lib\xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar;lib\xmlgraphics-commons-2.6.jar
Check for any prepended/appended classpath entries
Check C:\Users\dbpau\JMRI\lib for any appended classpath entries
Checked GetSettingsClassPath from C:\Users\dbpau\JMRI\lib and found?
Final ClassPath: .;classes;jmri.jar;lib\apiguardian-api-1.1.0.jar;lib\batik-anim-1.14.jar;lib\batik-awt-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-bridge-1.14.jar;lib\batik-constants-1.14.jar;lib\batik-css-1.14.jar;lib\batik-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-ext-1.14.jar;lib\batik-gvt-1.14.jar;lib\batik-i18n-1.14.jar;lib\batik-js-1.8.jar;lib\batik-parser-1.14.jar;lib\batik-script-1.14.jar;lib\batik-shared-resources-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svg-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svggen-1.14.jar;lib\batik-transcoder-1.17.jar;lib\batik-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-xml-1.14.jar;lib\beansbinding-1.2.1.jar;lib\bidibwizard-common-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-model-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\bluecove-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-bluez-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-gpl-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\commons-collections4-4.4.jar;lib\commons-compress-1.18.jar;lib\commons-csv-1.9.0.jar;lib\commons-io-2.11.0.jar;lib\commons-lang3-3.7.jar;lib\commons-logging-1.2.jar;lib\commons-net-3.9.0.jar;lib\commons-text-1.2.jar;lib\eventbus-1.4.jar;lib\gluegen-rt.jar;lib\hid4java-0.5.0.jar;lib\jackson-annotations-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-core-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-databind-2.13.4.2.jar;lib\JavaVersionCheckWindow.jar;lib\javax.activation-api-1.2.0.jar;lib\javax.servlet-api-3.1.0.jar;lib\jaxb-api-2.3.1.jar;lib\jaxb-core-2.3.0.1.jar;lib\jaxb-impl-2.3.2.jar;lib\jbidibc-core-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-messages-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-net-serial-over-tcp-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-purejavacomm-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-serial-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\jdom2-2.0.6.jar;lib\jetty-http-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-io-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-security-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-util-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jgoodies-binding-2.13.0.jar;lib\jgoodies-common-1.8.1.jar;lib\jhall.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9-natives-all.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9.jar;lib\jinputvalidator-0.8.0.jar;lib\jlfgr-1_0.jar;lib\jmdns-3.5.5.jar;lib\jmri.script.jsr223graalpython.jar;lib\jna-5.13.0.jar;lib\jna-platform-5.13.0.jar;lib\joal.jar;lib\jSerialComm-2.10.4.jar;lib\json-schema-validator-1.0.28.jar;lib\jsoup-1.15.3.jar;lib\jsplitbutton-1.3.1.jar;lib\jul-to-slf4j-2.0.7.jar;lib\jython-standalone-2.7.2.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-arm.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86.jar;lib\log4j-api-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-core-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-slf4j2-impl-2.20.0.jar;lib\mailapi.jar;lib\openlcb.jar;lib\org-openide-util-lookup-RELEASE150.jar;lib\org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3-1.2.5.jar;lib\pi4j-core-1.2.jar;lib\purejavacomm-1.0.5.jar;lib\slf4j-api-2.0.7.jar;lib\thumbnailator-0.4.8.jar;lib\usb-api-1.0.2.jar;lib\usb4java-1.3.0.jar;lib\usb4java-javax-1.3.0.jar;lib\vecmath-1.5.2.jar;lib\websocket-api-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-client-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-common-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\xAPlib.jar;lib\xbee-java-library-1.3.1.jar;lib\xercesImpl-2.12.2.jar;lib\xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar;lib\xmlgraphics-commons-2.6.jar
MaxLen: 8192
ExeString: "java.exe" ? -noverify -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Djava.security.policy=security.policy -Djogamp.gluegen.UseTempJarCache=false -Djinput.plugins=net.bobis.jinput.hidraw.HidRawEnvironmentPlugin -Dswing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel -Djava.library.path=.;lib\x64;lib -Djava.rmi.server.codebase=file:java/classes/ -Dsun.java2d.noddraw -Xms96m -Xmx2020m -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Duser.home="C:\Users\dbpau" -Dpython.home="C:\Users\dbpau\JMRI\systemfiles" -Djava.class.path=".;classes;jmri.jar;lib\apiguardian-api-1.1.0.jar;lib\batik-anim-1.14.jar;lib\batik-awt-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-bridge-1.14.jar;lib\batik-constants-1.14.jar;lib\batik-css-1.14.jar;lib\batik-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-ext-1.14.jar;lib\batik-gvt-1.14.jar;lib\batik-i18n-1.14.jar;lib\batik-js-1.8.jar;lib\batik-parser-1.14.jar;lib\batik-script-1.14.jar;lib\batik-shared-resources-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svg-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svggen-1.14.jar;lib\batik-transcoder-1.17.jar;lib\batik-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-xml-1.14.jar;lib\beansbinding-1.2.1.jar;lib\bidibwizard-common-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-model-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\bluecove-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-bluez-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-gpl-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\commons-collections4-4.4.jar;lib\commons-compress-1.18.jar;lib\commons-csv-1.9.0.jar;lib\commons-io-2.11.0.jar;lib\commons-lang3-3.7.jar;lib\commons-logging-1.2.jar;lib\commons-net-3.9.0.jar;lib\commons-text-1.2.jar;lib\eventbus-1.4.jar;lib\gluegen-rt.jar;lib\hid4java-0.5.0.jar;lib\jackson-annotations-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-core-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-databind-2.13.4.2.jar;lib\JavaVersionCheckWindow.jar;lib\javax.activation-api-1.2.0.jar;lib\javax.servlet-api-3.1.0.jar;lib\jaxb-api-2.3.1.jar;lib\jaxb-core-2.3.0.1.jar;lib\jaxb-impl-2.3.2.jar;lib\jbidibc-core-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-messages-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-net-serial-over-tcp-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-purejavacomm-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-serial-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\jdom2-2.0.6.jar;lib\jetty-http-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-io-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-security-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-util-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jgoodies-binding-2.13.0.jar;lib\jgoodies-common-1.8.1.jar;lib\jhall.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9-natives-all.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9.jar;lib\jinputvalidator-0.8.0.jar;lib\jlfgr-1_0.jar;lib\jmdns-3.5.5.jar;lib\jmri.script.jsr223graalpython.jar;lib\jna-5.13.0.jar;lib\jna-platform-5.13.0.jar;lib\joal.jar;lib\jSerialComm-2.10.4.jar;lib\json-schema-validator-1.0.28.jar;lib\jsoup-1.15.3.jar;lib\jsplitbutton-1.3.1.jar;lib\jul-to-slf4j-2.0.7.jar;lib\jython-standalone-2.7.2.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-arm.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86.jar;lib\log4j-api-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-core-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-slf4j2-impl-2.20.0.jar;lib\mailapi.jar;lib\openlcb.jar;lib\org-openide-util-lookup-RELEASE150.jar;lib\org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3-1.2.5.jar;lib\pi4j-core-1.2.jar;lib\purejavacomm-1.0.5.jar;lib\slf4j-api-2.0.7.jar;lib\thumbnailator-0.4.8.jar;lib\usb-api-1.0.2.jar;lib\usb4java-1.3.0.jar;lib\usb4java-javax-1.3.0.jar;lib\vecmath-1.5.2.jar;lib\websocket-api-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-client-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-common-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\xAPlib.jar;lib\xbee-java-library-1.3.1.jar;lib\xercesImpl-2.12.2.jar;lib\xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar;lib\xmlgraphics-commons-2.6.jar" apps.PanelPro.PanelPro?
Output folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI
Launching JMRI
Execute: "java.exe" ? -noverify -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Djava.security.policy=security.policy -Djogamp.gluegen.UseTempJarCache=false -Djinput.plugins=net.bobis.jinput.hidraw.HidRawEnvironmentPlugin -Dswing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel -Djava.library.path=.;lib\x64;lib -Djava.rmi.server.codebase=file:java/classes/ -Dsun.java2d.noddraw -Xms96m -Xmx2020m -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Duser.home="C:\Users\dbpau" -Dpython.home="C:\Users\dbpau\JMRI\systemfiles" -Djava.class.path=".;classes;jmri.jar;lib\apiguardian-api-1.1.0.jar;lib\batik-anim-1.14.jar;lib\batik-awt-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-bridge-1.14.jar;lib\batik-constants-1.14.jar;lib\batik-css-1.14.jar;lib\batik-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-ext-1.14.jar;lib\batik-gvt-1.14.jar;lib\batik-i18n-1.14.jar;lib\batik-js-1.8.jar;lib\batik-parser-1.14.jar;lib\batik-script-1.14.jar;lib\batik-shared-resources-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svg-dom-1.14.jar;lib\batik-svggen-1.14.jar;lib\batik-transcoder-1.17.jar;lib\batik-util-1.14.jar;lib\batik-xml-1.14.jar;lib\beansbinding-1.2.1.jar;lib\bidibwizard-common-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-model-2.0.18.jar;lib\bidibwizard-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\bluecove-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-bluez-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\bluecove-gpl-2.1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar;lib\commons-collections4-4.4.jar;lib\commons-compress-1.18.jar;lib\commons-csv-1.9.0.jar;lib\commons-io-2.11.0.jar;lib\commons-lang3-3.7.jar;lib\commons-logging-1.2.jar;lib\commons-net-3.9.0.jar;lib\commons-text-1.2.jar;lib\eventbus-1.4.jar;lib\gluegen-rt.jar;lib\hid4java-0.5.0.jar;lib\jackson-annotations-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-core-2.13.4.jar;lib\jackson-databind-2.13.4.2.jar;lib\JavaVersionCheckWindow.jar;lib\javax.activation-api-1.2.0.jar;lib\javax.servlet-api-3.1.0.jar;lib\jaxb-api-2.3.1.jar;lib\jaxb-core-2.3.0.1.jar;lib\jaxb-impl-2.3.2.jar;lib\jbidibc-core-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-messages-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-net-serial-over-tcp-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-purejavacomm-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-serial-2.0.18.jar;lib\jbidibc-simulation-2.0.18.jar;lib\jdom2-2.0.6.jar;lib\jetty-http-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-io-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-security-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jetty-util-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\jgoodies-binding-2.13.0.jar;lib\jgoodies-common-1.8.1.jar;lib\jhall.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9-natives-all.jar;lib\jinput-2.0.9.jar;lib\jinputvalidator-0.8.0.jar;lib\jlfgr-1_0.jar;lib\jmdns-3.5.5.jar;lib\jmri.script.jsr223graalpython.jar;lib\jna-5.13.0.jar;lib\jna-platform-5.13.0.jar;lib\joal.jar;lib\jSerialComm-2.10.4.jar;lib\json-schema-validator-1.0.28.jar;lib\jsoup-1.15.3.jar;lib\jsplitbutton-1.3.1.jar;lib\jul-to-slf4j-2.0.7.jar;lib\jython-standalone-2.7.2.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-darwin-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-aarch64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-arm.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-linux-x86.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86-64.jar;lib\libusb4java-1.3.0-win32-x86.jar;lib\log4j-api-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-core-2.20.0.jar;lib\log4j-slf4j2-impl-2.20.0.jar;lib\mailapi.jar;lib\openlcb.jar;lib\org-openide-util-lookup-RELEASE150.jar;lib\org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3-1.2.5.jar;lib\pi4j-core-1.2.jar;lib\purejavacomm-1.0.5.jar;lib\slf4j-api-2.0.7.jar;lib\thumbnailator-0.4.8.jar;lib\usb-api-1.0.2.jar;lib\usb4java-1.3.0.jar;lib\usb4java-javax-1.3.0.jar;lib\vecmath-1.5.2.jar;lib\websocket-api-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-client-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-common-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-server-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\websocket-servlet-9.4.28.v20200408.jar;lib\xAPlib.jar;lib\xbee-java-library-1.3.1.jar;lib\xercesImpl-2.12.2.jar;lib\xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar;lib\xmlgraphics-commons-2.6.jar" apps.PanelPro.PanelPro?
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On 8/29/2024 10:23 AM, Phil G wrote: I’d love to know how much difference moving it to the first startup task makes From the JMRi perspective, it depends on several things: - Number of "Table" windows which are running when an XML (panel and objects definitions) file is loaded; - and _how many_ objects need to be added to eact type of "Table"; - and _how_ each of those "Table" windows are "sorted". That last bit is somewhat difficult to quantify. If a "Table" is set to display in ascending "System Address" order, then the extra time required is almost zero. But if _any_ other order is used, then things can get awkward to quantify. It does not help that one can change the "sort order" of a "Table" at the last JMRI run, causing it to affect the load-time on the current load! So the general rule of loading the XML _before opening "Table" windows is the generally-best solution. (Example, if I load a XML before showing Turnout and Sensor tables, my machine takes "X" seconds. If I open Turnout and Sensor tables, and then loaf the panels XML, it can take between the same "X" seconds, or it can take "2X" or "3X" or "4X" seconds, depending on how I had last ordered the Turnouts and Sensors sorting!) Regards, Billybob
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Re: Question about sound only decoders
I can assure you that’s TSU-3 does not need a motor for direct mode program
track work bit generates the ack pulse in other ways.
Mick
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Keith,
Make the routes dependent on the whether you are running in layout or simulation mode.
Create a LogixNG to set an internal sensor based on the CMRI connection type.
LogixNG: Set Layout/Sim Mode
??? ConditionalNG: IQC:AUTO:0612 ::: Startup
??????? ! A
??????????? Many
??????????????? ! A1
??????????????????? If Then Else. Execute on change
??????????????????????? ? If
??????????????????????????? Connection "C/MRI: C/MRI Simulator" exists
??????????????????????? ! Then
??????????????????????????? Set sensor SimMode to state Active
??????????????????????? ! Else
??????????????????????????? Set sensor SimMode to state Inactive
??????????????? ! A2
????????????????????
Then add the sensor to the affected routes using the veto option.
Note: ?For the screenshot purposes I picked a likely route.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Initalizing my control panel
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2024 7:34 AM
Group,
When working on my Control Panel (Control Panel Editor, if it matters) in simulation mode, to get the signal masts to indicate correctly, I initialize all turnouts to closed, and all block occupancy sensors to inactive.? (I use routes to do this.) This allows the masts to indicate correctly.
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When I switch to Live, (CMRI/NCE) all of the block occupancy indicators in my yards show "unoccupied", even though there are cars (Resistor wheelsets) and/or loco's on many tracks.? I would think that the natural polling of the layout would adjust these to the actual condition or status.
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However, if I do not initalize all of the blocks to inactive, the Live layout comes up with the correct status of the occupancy sensors.? How can I get the correct status at start-up of the live panel?
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Keith In Georgia
Win 10, CMRI. NCE
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Glad it wasn’t just me opening the panel file at the end
I’d love to know how much difference moving it to the first startup task makes
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On 29 Aug 2024, at 14:23, Vinny DeRobertis via groups.io <vinny.derobertis@...> wrote:
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Attached is my startup sequence.
It could be due to my windows 7 box but it takes about 5 minutes for mine to load! My XML has 60 panels with about 40 images.
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Where should Adding Buttons & Performing Actions appear in the startup with respect to the XML??
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Many thanks in advance!
Vinny DeRobertis ~ Apex, NC
New York & Hudson Valley RR
Windows 7 Pro / Java 11 / JMRI v5.7.7
Command Station: Digikeijs DR5000.
Booster: Digikeijs DR5033
Interface: Samsung A7 10.4" Tablets/Fully Kiosk.
DCC/DMX Gateway: Pricom LLS.
LocoNet Input Modules: Digikeijs DR4088LN
DCC Output Modules:
Digikeijs DR4018 / Yamorc YD8116.
Sensors: Model Train Technology: DETECTOR-HO.
Turnout Motors: MTB MP1
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 07:22 AM, Vinny DeRobertis wrote:
Where should Adding Buttons & Performing Actions appear in the startup with
respect to the XML?
These should have a limited effect on startup, but I would still load your file first to get it started. The size of your file (and age of your computer) is probably the limiting factor. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Attached is my startup sequence.
It could be due to my windows 7 box but it takes about 5 minutes for mine to load! My XML has 60 panels with about 40 images.
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Where should Adding Buttons & Performing Actions appear in the startup with respect to the XML??
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Many thanks in advance!
Vinny DeRobertis ~ Apex, NC
New York & Hudson Valley RR
Windows 7 Pro / Java 11 / JMRI v5.7.7
Command Station: Digikeijs DR5000.
Booster: Digikeijs DR5033
Interface: Samsung A7 10.4" Tablets/Fully Kiosk.
DCC/DMX Gateway: Pricom LLS.
LocoNet Input Modules: Digikeijs DR4088LN
DCC Output Modules:
Digikeijs DR4018 / Yamorc YD8116.
Sensors: Model Train Technology: DETECTOR-HO.
Turnout Motors: MTB MP1
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Group,
When working on my Control Panel (Control Panel Editor, if it matters) in simulation mode, to get the signal masts to indicate correctly, I initialize all turnouts to closed, and all block occupancy sensors to inactive.? (I use routes to do this.) This allows the masts to indicate correctly.
?
When I switch to Live, (CMRI/NCE) all of the block occupancy indicators in my yards show "unoccupied", even though there are cars (Resistor wheelsets) and/or loco's on many tracks.? I would think that the natural polling of the layout would adjust these to the actual condition or status.
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However, if I do not initalize all of the blocks to inactive, the Live layout comes up with the correct status of the occupancy sensors.? How can I get the correct status at start-up of the live panel?
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Keith In Georgia
Win 10, CMRI. NCE
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 03:11 PM, Dave Sand wrote:
"preference:" and "profile:" are the same unless ?"User Files Location" has been changed in "Preferences -> File Locations".?
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Thanks Dave,
After doing some testing, I don't believe having different preferences and profile paths is the reason for Gord's problems.
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Dan
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Re: Question about sound only decoders
I've not noticed a change in volume from going upgrade or down with my Soundtraxx Econami decoders. But, there definitely is one with rapid acceleration or slowing down.?
I'm not certain you will see that with a motor in the tender, just running with no load. If the volume change is due to the motor current variation, then it will depend on whether the loading change is similar for the motor in your tender. So, you would want a motor with a flywheel, if the one in the loco has a flywheel.
But, I suspect the volume change and braking squeal are really because the speed control command is changing faster than the motor drive speed because of higher accel and decel decoder settings. Cut the throttle quickly and the chug goes away, you'll hear no chugging, just rod clank and probably hear brake squeal. Fun stuff, precisely accurate or not!
Don W
-- Don Weigt Connecticut
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Re: Question about sound only decoders
I think the issue for some is that to be able to read a Tsunami 2
requires some load like a motor or such to generate the current pulses
that make the reading work. It will program fine, you just can't read
it.
Now will it chuff without a motor, that's kind of a different thing.
So it 'works' without a motor but does it do everything the same or
not, that's a different question.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
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Re: Question about sound only decoders
Thanks for all the hints and suggestions.? I did a test fit and was able to get an extra motor into the tender, with the decoder and a sugar cube speaker, so I can solder it all in place, even an ounce of weight, too.? I’ll leave the motor leads for a plug to wire to the engine, too.
It seems a trade off for better sound response.? I suppose also I could just make the headlamp always on, too, so just two extra wires and plan for the connections to be replaced when they break.? The claims of the chuff subsiding when going down hill would be interesting to validate.
On Thursday, August 29, 2024, Mick Moignard via <mick= [email protected]> wrote:
So why not run two wires from tender to loco for the motor? It’s just not
that hard to do, even in N scale
Mick
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mick@...
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I agree with Ken:
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I question the path. It is showing as:
"C:\Program Files\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe"
?but it should be:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe"
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The? default folder for 32 bit programs on all Windows versions is "C:\Program Files (x86)\". This may not be causing the problem but best to have JMRI installed in the correct folder location to help eliminate possible issues. JMRI may be looking for an item that is not where it should be.
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John.
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