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Re: RPi update killing JMRI on Steve Todd's image
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Thanks Steve!
I'll just keep my mouse off the updater and use your current version until you publish a new image.
Thank you so much for doing this, it is such a nice way to run my layout.
There is a procedure published for creating a Pi-Sprog LCC image on Bookworm that included a hotspot. I was going to attempt a roll your own but I have a layout tour open house this Saturday, so best not to muck things up (and I have a few other things to do...).
- Bob
Cary, NC
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Ok, a bit of progress to report. ?I took a backup snapshot of the Operations data on the MacBook and ported it to the Mini, and Operations opens and runs on the Mini. ?I then started CATS on the MacBook and established a network connection with the Mini following Rodney's CATS documentation. ?The two programs appear to be communicating as expected (i.e., as they did when both programs ran on the same computer). ?However, I am seeing that Operations is failing to update the location of a train that CATS is correctly communicating the progress of. ?I can't tell if this is a network issue, a CATS issue, or an Operations issue. ?Below is an edited extract from the CATS console in case it helps anyone recognize the issue. ?I can post this on the CATS board so Rodney will see it as well.? I have attached a longer version of the console as a screenshot and a txt file, just in case. Some config info: the MacBook is connected to the layout with a LoconetOverTCP connection, its IP is 192.168.5.100; the Mini is running standalone via a Loconet Simulator connection, its IP is 192.168.5.105; ?both instances of JMRI are running the Simple Server. ?(As a side note, Rodney's TrainStat program is running on the Mini and it *is* correctly updating train progress - location, length, etc. - on the layout.)
2024-05-26 19:45:23,867 jmri.OperationsTrains ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Sent to Operations: OPERATIONS , TRAIN=BNSF Q-RICALT , TRAINLOCATION=Bakersfield , ...
2024-05-26 19:45:23,987 jmri.OperationsTrains ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Received from Operations: OPERATIONS: WARNING move of BNSF Q-RICALT to location Bakersfield failed. Train's current location Bakersfield next location Kern Jct [Thread-59]
2024-05-26 19:45:23,987 jmri.OperationsTrains ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Received from Operations: OPERATIONS , TRAIN=BNSF Q-RICALT , TRAINLENGTH=1919 , ...
2024-05-26 19:45:55,893 jmri.OperationsTrains ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Sent to Operations: OPERATIONS , TRAIN=BNSF Q-RICALT , TRAINLOCATION=Kern Junction , TRAINLENGTH , ...
2024-05-26 19:45:55,926 jmri.OperationsTrains ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Received from Operations: OPERATIONS: WARNING move of BNSF Q-RICALT to location Kern Junction failed. Train's current location Bakersfield next location Kern Jct [Thread-59]
2024-05-26 19:45:55,926 jmri.OperationsTrains ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Received from Operations: OPERATIONS , TRAIN=BNSF Q-RICALT , TRAINLENGTH=1919 , ...
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I'm trying to set up a Zimo MX616 decoder, but it doesn't appear in the list of decoders in DecoderPro.
Is there an idiot's guide to doing this ?
Thanks
Adrian
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? "? ?I'll apologise now for not being very computer / DCC savvy.? "
That's putting it mildly.? ? ??
Please say exactly what equipment you are using.? ??
It is highly unlikely that you are using BOTH a Sprog and a PR4,? so which is it ???
- Nigel
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Date 27/05/2024 11:29:14
Subject [jmriusers] Locomotives unable to change direction. #pr4 #sprog
Hi,
I'll apologise now for not being very computer / DCC savvy.
I recently installed a Digitrax DN163K1B in a Kato SD70ACe and it would only travel in one direction after programming. I thought there was a fault in the decoder and was trying to figure out what to do with it. ?Then my dad bought 3 used Kato locos with MRC
sound decoders and asked me to change the loco numbers. ?Now all 4 locos will only travel one direction. 2 will only travel backwards and 2 will only travel forwards.
I think it's too much of a coincidence to have 4 locos with the same errors.
Additional to this the locos can be programmed when following the "New Loco" route but afterwards cannot be identified by Decoderpro. "Identify" results in Error 301 , no locomotive found.
I've tried "Reset" but all that does is set the loco number to 3 and switch analog control to on.
Any help would be appreciated please.
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Hi Lionel,
Firstly, my apologies for not replying sooner but I've been away on holiday for the past two week with no internet access.
Secondly, thanks for taking the time to look at the problem and finding a solution. I was starting to wonder if it was just me!!
Cheers Lee
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Hi,
I'll apologise now for not being very computer / DCC savvy.
I recently installed a Digitrax DN163K1B in a Kato SD70ACe and it would only travel in one direction after programming. I thought there was a fault in the decoder and was trying to figure out what to do with it. ?Then my dad bought 3 used Kato locos with MRC sound decoders and asked me to change the loco numbers. ?Now all 4 locos will only travel one direction. 2 will only travel backwards and 2 will only travel forwards.
I think it's too much of a coincidence to have 4 locos with the same errors.
Additional to this the locos can be programmed when following the "New Loco" route but afterwards cannot be identified by Decoderpro. "Identify" results in Error 301 , no locomotive found.
I've tried "Reset" but all that does is set the loco number to 3 and switch analog control to on.
Any help would be appreciated please.
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Re: How to activate the same output of turnout
Gopal,
Please be aware that I have not actually tried to use the method that is proposed here on a real layout.
Both the Logix and the LogixNG features allow one to trigger an action based on some defined action and to delay the trigger process by one's own choice of the number of seconds.
If your turnout were to have the userName of "x" for example, then the Logix version might something look like:
IX:AUTO:0002C1 ?xx ??
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Turnout "x" state is "Turnout Thrown" ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Change To True, Delayed Set Turnout, "x" to Closed, after 3 seconds. ??
Of course the editing process will try to tell you not to use the same turnout for both actions.
Cliff in Baja SoCal
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How to activate the same output of turnout
I would like to activate the same output of a turnout decoder repeatedly. ?I have two remote uncouplers that are connected to a turnout decoder with each wired to one output of the turnout decoder. My command station has two buttons each per turnout so I can activate a specific uncoupler by pressing the corresponding button. I can activate the same uncoupler by pressing the same button repeatedly. The uncoupler is activated for as long as I hold the button down.
I am trying to use the turnout table in JMRI for this. I can only alternate between the two uncouplers as the the state of the turnout alternates between "closed" and "thrown". ?How do I create a doorbell-like entry that will always activate the same leg of the turnout? The uncoupler has to be on only for a very short period of time. This appears to preclude using the Lights table. Perhaps I be using Routes for this?
I'm sorry if I'm not making myself clear; it is hard to describe properly. Thanks for your assistance.
Gopal
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Re: no track power in operation mode when power is turned on
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for your reply.
The flashing is about 2x per second.
I check the power output with a Multimeter, directly from the Sprog track output,? and to be sure, I alo connect a piece of track where I put a car with an the end light which should be on when AC feeds the track.
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Re: RPi update killing JMRI on Steve Todd's image
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Hi Bob,
I can confirm that a very recent update does indeed break the RPi-JMRI access point (hotspot) feature.
The network still shows, but starting it only works momentarily then it stops again.
I'm going to forego OS updates for the 5.7.7 version, as I have some improvements to the DCC-EX config that I'd like to publish.
I've also removed the updater plugin from the taskbar to (hopefully) lower the temptation to update, at least until I figure out the RPi-JMRI network issue.
--SteveT
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Oh, and to go back to the original post: is there potentially a server/client arrangement that works in this scenario?? I tried running the JMRIClient with the Simple Server on the Mini, but if I understand correctly, the Simple Server does not "speak" Operations.? But perhaps I am mistaken and/or there is another server/client arrangement that could work?
I appreciate the help so far.
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Dave, I was able to see the shared MacBook folder under /Volumes on the Mini, but as Dan points out, this solution does not achieve what I ultimately want.? I might be better off just running Operations standalone on the Mini and syncing the files to/from the MacBook before and after a session.? I know that CATS on the macBook can communicate with Operations on the Mini in real time, so that should work.? The only downside is that I like to develop the session (train lists and such) on the MacBook, so there is a required syncing step.? I think I can live with that though.? (But the web solution is still interesting.)
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On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 06:22 PM, Gary Hinshaw wrote:
I have file sharing enabled between the MacBook and the Mini
When OperationsPro is running, the database is kept in system memory.? So sharing files only works after the program has completed a save.? If two running machines shared the same files, then each could be out of synch when making changes to the OperationsPro program.? The only way this works is if one machine is running and modifying the files.? Two machines or more running at the same time will not work.? Also the program only reads the files once at startup.? From then on it uses the database in memory, and only performs file writes when saving the database. Dan
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Gary,
I don't share files on my Mac so I don't know what the linkage looks like. ?One thing to look for is whether it is a link based on a volume being mounted (unix speak). ?If so, you might be able to create the path starting at /Volumes. ?
Open a terminal window and do the following:
cd /Volumes
ls -l?
Note: ?the above is: el es space dash el
Here I have an external disk drive mounted.
drwxr-xr-x ? 5 root? wheel? 160 May 26 17:49 ./
drwxr-xr-x? 20 root? wheel? 640 May? 7 02:01 ../
drwxr-xr-x ? 4 root? wheel? 128 May? 4 11:37 .timemachine/
drwxr-xr-x@ 17 das ? staff? 544 Mar 31 21:33 Images/
lrwxr-xr-x ? 1 root? wheel? ? 1 May 16 15:09 Macintosh HD@ -> /
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Managing OperationsPro from multiple computers #operationspro
Date: Sunday, May 26, 2024 5:22 PM
Thanks Dan.? So maybe not the perfect solution, but it did point me to the frame server, which opens up a few more web-based options for me.
Back to running JMRI on the Mini: I have file sharing enabled between the MacBook and the Mini and I can see MacBook files on the Mini, so I feel like I should just be able to make a JMRI Config Profile on the Mini that points to the MacBook files.? But when I try to set File Locations to point to the MacBook, the PanelPro navigation pane does not show the shared folders.? Am I missing something, or is that not possible?
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Thanks Dan.? So maybe not the perfect solution, but it did point me to the frame server, which opens up a few more web-based options for me.
Back to running JMRI on the Mini: I have file sharing enabled between the MacBook and the Mini and I can see MacBook files on the Mini, so I feel like I should just be able to make a JMRI Config Profile on the Mini that points to the MacBook files.? But when I try to set File Locations to point to the MacBook, the PanelPro navigation pane does not show the shared folders.? Am I missing something, or is that not possible?
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On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 05:25 PM, Gary Hinshaw wrote:
1) if I click a build button on the web frame, it opens a window on the server to request departure and arrival track info and the web user does not see that.?
Yes, that could be an issue if there are build warnings or other dialogue window popups.? So not a perfect solution. Dan
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On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 05:25 PM, Gary Hinshaw wrote:
2) When I click on a Build button in the web frame, it seems to trigger the button one row below it.? Perhaps this is what you meant by tricky.? :)
I don't know why you need to click on the button above in the table for it to work.? I'll look into this.? Other checkboxes and radio buttons seem to work correctly.
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Nice.? This is almost the perfect solution for me with two small issues: 1) if I click a build button on the web frame, it opens a window on the server to request departure and arrival track info and the web user does not see that.? ?I can look into prescribing these choices ahead of time to circumvent this.? 2) When I click on a Build button in the web frame, it seems to trigger the button one row below it.? Perhaps this is what you meant by tricky.? :)
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You have to "enable frames". 
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On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 03:33 PM, Gary Hinshaw wrote:
I don't believe I can build trains via the web interface, correct?? If I can, that would be a good solution for me.?
Yes you can.? A bit trickly to hit the build button but it works.  
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Bob Gamble
