Forgot to add. WiThrottle is currently quitting at f28. Personally I only need up to f31 though, not the full works (yet) - this is the highest I see in my LokSound 5s….
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On 3 May 2023, at 16:47, Phil G via groups.io <phil@...> wrote:
? Well, it goes from f0 to f31, so that’s 32 functions.?
Let me dig around a bit
On 3 May 2023, at 15:54, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:
?On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:51 AM, Phil G wrote:
From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
Thanks, but I have one of those, I'd like one that has more than 32. This thread led me to believe they existed, maybe they don't (yet).
--SteveT?
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Well, it goes from f0 to f31, so that’s 32 functions.?
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?On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:51 AM, Phil G wrote:
From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
Thanks, but I have one of those, I'd like one that has more than 32. This thread led me to believe they existed, maybe they don't (yet).
--SteveT?
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As Wouter pointed out, this topic has strayed way past anything to do with JMRI. Further discussion on wiring, resister wheelsets, etc need to be taken elsewhere.
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Re: NX Entry/Exit pairs used in LogixNG do not get put back into logixNG when restarting and reloading the panel.
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John,
I did a test with your logic and it works.
Are there any message in the JMRI system console?
Does the NX work properly when clicking on the NX sensors? ?Maybe you have a conflicting route which would normally create a Stack dialog.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] NX Entry/Exit pairs used in LogixNG do not get put back into logixNG when restarting and reloading the panel. #logixng #entryexit
Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 9:55 AM
Dave,
Thanks again for your reply. Yes you are correct according to what I posted except I made a mistake in the post - sorry about that, what I really had and still have is this:
? ? ? ? ! A? If Then Else, Always execute
? ? ? ? ? ? ? if Entry/exit "NXW (E4) to NXE (W4)" is inactive
? ? ? ? ? ? ?!? Then Many
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A2 Set Entry/Exit "NWX (E4) to NXE (W4) to Set NX pair Segment Active / Inactive
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A3 Return
? ? ? ? ? ? ?! Else Return
So when I look at the debugger I can see that the If condition is true and the A2 Action is reached in the debugger, But I don't think the NX pair gets set to Active.?
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Re: Figuring out where I need to place my "blocks"
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Slight correction on resistance: Special case, when all resistors are equal. Otherwise, use the formula for parallel resistors (R1xR2)/(R1+R2) reiteratively::
The second wheelset with resistor halves the resistance, the third reduces it to 1/3, the fourth to 1/4th, the 5th to 1/5th, and so on.
I'm concerned by the use of 47k Ohm resistors for wheelsets. Those will draw less than 1/3 milliAmp each. Most detectors will not sense that, three, four, or even more might need to be in the block before it shows occupancy. It might work acceptably if they are on every wheelset, but probably the car won't be detected until four or more wheelsets are in the block.
Test your occupancy detection with resistors directly across the rails, to find the largest resistance that is detected. Then, since all things vary, go one value lower to compensate for most block and sensor variations.
Don W
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Dave,
Thanks again for your reply. Yes you are correct according to what I posted except I made a mistake in the post - sorry about that, what I really had and still have is this:
? ? ? ? ! A? If Then Else, Always execute
? ? ? ? ? ? ? if Entry/exit "NXW (E4) to NXE (W4)" is inactive
? ? ? ? ? ? ?!? Then Many
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A2 Set Entry/Exit "NWX (E4) to NXE (W4) to Set NX pair Segment Active / Inactive
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A3 Return
? ? ? ? ? ? ?! Else Return
So when I look at the debugger I can see that the If condition is true and the A2 Action is reached in the debugger, But I don't think the NX pair gets set to Active.?
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can we use locos with this new 5.2 version in our trains?? If so, is there a link for instructions?
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On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:51 AM, Phil G wrote:
From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
Thanks, but I have one of those, I'd like one that has more than 32. This thread led me to believe they existed, maybe they don't (yet). --SteveT?
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Yes, JMRI doesn't require anything off the internet while installing.
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Ohhhh. ?I misread your question
I’ll send you a roster entry later. From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
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On 3 May 2023, at 15:31, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:
?On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:22 AM, Phil G wrote:
I’ll look at this tonight. Do I need an updated WiThrottle?
I'm not sure where any of the code is as far as getting to production. That's why I'm asking for an example, so I can test.
And thanks go to Brett Hoffman for the JMRI changes.
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Layout location has no internet connection. Can JMRI be upgraded with the executables off line?
Thank you
Allan?
Stony Plain Museum
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On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:22 AM, Phil G wrote:
I’ll look at this tonight. Do I need an updated WiThrottle?
I'm not sure where any of the code is as far as getting to production. That's why I'm asking for an example, so I can test. And thanks go to Brett Hoffman for the JMRI changes.
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Just a note from a guy who took a 28 block DC layout to a 48 block DCC? layout by isolating the turnouts.? For single turnouts, place a signal at least 40 scale feet from the points end of the turnout.? For the frog end of the turnout the turnout number and turnout configuration matters a lot.? For example a No 6 double crossover with 2 inch separation is 40-50 ft from the frog. A number 9 measured about 80 scale feet and a Peco double curved turnout measured about 72 scale feet.? This means that unless you scratch build each turnout there is a little length of rail on each end of the turnout. So don't cut the rail until the track is in place.? Since track configuration matters my advice is to use 2 NMRA track gages and slide them along the frog rails until they touch.? That's the nearest point to cut the rail.??
Another note on resistor wheelsets.? Unless the wheelset somehow can conflict with part of the underside of the car, place it on the outside of the truck.? This is important for backing movements.? Also a thought on detection.? Each time a resistor wheelset enters the block, the resistive value detected halves.??
And a note on the actual signals? My 48 block layout was going to require 92 signal heads.? But looking at the layout on the computer I was able to determine which signals were not really necessary to place on the layout.? They are still part of the signaling system, just not on the layout.
Love PECO turnouts.? Used them for 30 years and had very few failures.
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I’ll look at this tonight. Do I need an updated WiThrottle?
Oh, and THANKS
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On 3 May 2023, at 15:16, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:
?All,
Changes have been made in JMRI WiThrottle Server, WiThrottle and EngineDriver to (hopefully) handle the higher functions (or at least quietly ignore them).
Can anyone share a Roster Entry or two that have more than 32 function labels in use? This would be helpful for verifying the changes.
--SteveT
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Re: NX Entry/Exit pairs used in LogixNG do not get put back into logixNG when restarting and reloading the panel.
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John,
A2 is toggling the state of the NX. ?Since it is active based on the if, the new state will be inactive.
The Return statements are not needed, return is automatic.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] NX Entry/Exit pairs used in LogixNG do not get put back into logixNG when restarting and reloading the panel. #logixng #entryexit
Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 8:42 AM
Thank you for the solution to my issue described above.
OK I have updated to version 5.3.5 and the issue has gone away. Now I want to set a pair active using the following logixNG
I have:
? ? ? ? ! A? If Then Else, Always execute
? ? ? ? ? ? ? if Entry/exit "NXW (E4) to NXE (W4)" is active
? ? ? ? ? ? ?!? Then Many
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A2 Set Entry/Exit "NWX (E4) to NXE (W4) to Set NX pair Segment Active / Inactive
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A3 Return
? ? ? ? ? ? ?! Else Return
Using the debugger I can see that the If condition is satisfied and returns "True" but the A2 action does not set the NX pair from Inactive to Active.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
John
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Good morning Bob,
Any news? I know that to perform this Nuclear Reset (AKA USER PRESET 1 RESET) CV201, CV202, CV203, and CV204 must be written in order with the appropriate values.
Would you expect that writing those CVs in Direct Mode versus Page Mode would make a difference. I'm not sure I understand what the difference is.
Thanks, have a good day!
Tim
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All,
Changes have been made in JMRI WiThrottle Server, WiThrottle and EngineDriver to (hopefully) handle the higher functions (or at least quietly ignore them).
Can anyone share a Roster Entry or two that have more than 32 function labels in use? This would be helpful for verifying the changes.
--SteveT
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Re: NX Entry/Exit pairs used in LogixNG do not get put back into logixNG when restarting and reloading the panel.
#logixng
#entryexit
Thank you for the solution to my issue described above.
OK I have updated to version 5.3.5 and the issue has gone away. Now I want to set a pair active using the following logixNG
I have:
? ? ? ? ! A? If Then Else, Always execute
? ? ? ? ? ? ? if Entry/exit "NXW (E4) to NXE (W4)" is active
? ? ? ? ? ? ?!? Then Many
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A2 Set Entry/Exit "NWX (E4) to NXE (W4) to Set NX pair Segment Active / Inactive
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?! A3 Return
? ? ? ? ? ? ?! Else Return
Using the debugger I can see that the If condition is satisfied and returns "True" but the A2 action does not set the NX pair from Inactive to Active.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
John
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I am running version 5.2 Production Release. So you say I need to use a a "Test" Release? That seems strange but I will try it.
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Steve,
Jerry's sketch works, but he made custom changes to the MFRC522.cpp. I haven't looked into his changes in-depth, but they should also work on the 8266. I will let him elaborate. The good news is that his changes do not affect using the MFRC522 readers with the Arduino boards.
Tom
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