Thanks Phil, but the DS is in a different room from where the manifests are generated and sometimes the DS is in a different state.? Bottom line is to give the layout a more prototype feel by generating prototype paperwork.? If it makes it easier for the visiting operators so much the better.
If I knew how to code it I'd do this myself but that's not in the cards.? Thanks. Cheers, Dennis Drury
Dayton, NV
The miracle is this: the more we share the more we have.
Leonard Nimoy
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:19 AM Phil in gorgeous Young Harris via Groups.Io <philabernathy= [email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:04 AM, Dennis Drury wrote:
A while back I was dispatching at the layout of a friend that is using a JMRI US&S CTC panel as well as JMRI Operations.? Everything went well but the idea came to me that having a lineup of trains would help the dispatcher.? The freight agent that generates the manifests is in another room and delivers the manifest to the train crews as they're generated but the dispatcher doesn't see a copy.? The dispatcher doesn't need to know what cars go where but it would be nice to know things like work locations, power assigned (if available), but most importantly the train length and call time.? Train length is needed to allow the dispatcher to plan meets where trains will fit since not all sidings are the same length, and call time so the dispatcher knows what's coming.? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Dennis, if you are only looking for the originally planned train consists and time of departures, I think that would indeed be available from the Switchlist generated by JMRI.?
I use the Excel add-ons to format my Manifests and Switchlists and I suspect it would be straight forward (for someone with the right skills) to pare down the Switchlist to merely a listing of trains showing departure time, locos assigned (if done in JMRI Operations), number of cars and tonnage of train.? Even possibly on one line per train.? Currently, I generate a Switchlist for the Yard Crews that list each train arriving or departing from their Yard with all cars listed.? All lists would only be able to show the expected consists and any errors picking up or dropping off would not be accounted for (for example, inadvertently dragging an extra car along or forgetting to drop one off which would increase the train length).
Interesting idea for Dispatch. I had thought about giving my Dispatcher a copy of each manifest since that does include all info, but it would be pages and pages of reference material, mostly unnecessary.?
Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA
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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 06:43 AM, visitslovenija wrote:
4.18+R36ad3do
typo, should have said: 4.18+R37ad3d0
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Hi Steve,
It looks like it is a decoder issue actually.? I've been working with a new loco and decoder (DCX76) and am still fiddling, but maybe the SPROG is overloading or something.? ?Can't see anything wrong with the wiring, but have run a couple of other locos ok.? But if I restart JMRI it talks to the SPROG again until I try to programme something than the comms LED stops flashing and I can no longer get the Status to change.
But my JMRI version is 4.18+R36ad3do
Ralph
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Win 10 also introduced the concept of "protected folders" which might be causing your issue.
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Hi Jack,
The firewall isn't the problem, but your antivirus is. Depending on how that works, you must add an exception for JMRI (whitelist it). These days most antivirus programs regard anything that they have no knowledge of as hostile and dangerous. So you need to either wait until the virus definitions have been updated by your antivirus provider and hope that they then include this version of JMRI, or find the way your AV can be overruled.
This will happen again, with each new release in which LaunchJMRI changes.
Wouter
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 13:43, jackvaradi via Groups.Io <jackvaradi= [email protected]> wrote: When I try to load 4.18 on a windows 10 machine I get the error message:
Error opening file for writing:
C:\Program Files (X86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe
If I ignore this and complete the install, JMRI crashes when it is opened.
I have turned of Windows Defender firewall and tried running the installation as an administrator.
Any thoughts are appreciated!
Thanks,
Jack Varadi
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PJ,
Please also elaborate as much as you can on what you mean when you say 'stalling'. Is it slowing down? If so: WHAT is slowing down? Is it stopping completely? If so: is that sudden or is response (in controlling a train or maybe a panel) getting progressively slower before grinding to a halt?
We must seem a collection of pedants, but, really, getting to grips means getting as clear an idea on what goes on as you can possibly give.
Wouter
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 12:45, Phil in gorgeous Young Harris via Groups.Io <philabernathy= [email protected]> wrote:
PJ, I'm afraid that the description and details are too vague to get a specific answer.? I suspect that troubleshooting will have to involve changing things on that computer such as scripts or panels that are run from the start.?
For example, I suspect that "runaway" scripts with endless loops are the most common issue of a working JMRI that seems to be "stalling" but really, is just too busy to take input from you.? Really bad endless loops can overflow the memory on the computer and actually lock up the computer too.? I have not seen Logix cause that issue, but I have not seen it all, and am not an expert in that.
Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA
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What version (exactly) of JMRI?
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Hi all,
I gave been successfully working with a SPROG IIv3 and a new RPI 4 (running Raspbian) as a programming station, but am now finding that the USB comms seems to stop working after a bit and JMRI then always shows the Status us UNKNOWN.? If I unplug and restart the SPROG it will work ok for a while and then stop again.
So far I have not seen this discussed anywhere, so any ideas?
Thanks,
Ralph
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When I try to load 4.18 on a windows 10 machine I get the error message:
Error opening file for writing:
C:\Program Files (X86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe
If I ignore this and complete the install, JMRI crashes when it is opened.
I have turned of Windows Defender firewall and tried running the installation as an administrator.
Any thoughts are appreciated!
Thanks,
Jack Varadi
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PJ, I'm afraid that the description and details are too vague to get a specific answer.? I suspect that troubleshooting will have to involve changing things on that computer such as scripts or panels that are run from the start.?
For example, I suspect that "runaway" scripts with endless loops are the most common issue of a working JMRI that seems to be "stalling" but really, is just too busy to take input from you.? Really bad endless loops can overflow the memory on the computer and actually lock up the computer too.? I have not seen Logix cause that issue, but I have not seen it all, and am not an expert in that.
Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA
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The problem could be any of a large number of things. But you have given absolutely nothing upon which we can base our guesses. Please see /g/jmriusers/topic/admin_how_to_ask_your/24915998?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,24915998 for a description of the basic information we will need to begin answering your question. Regards, Billybob
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Irvin, what computer are you using, and what OS?? That will help narrow down the issue.
If Windows, the "default printer" is probably being sent all of the print jobs.? I believe that when previewing, the extra step of printer selection has to be done which lets the correct printer/printer driver to be chosen.? Check to see what the default printer is, and maybe it is as simple as changing to where you want the print to go.
Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA
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Note that Bob¡¯s suggested fix will need to be redone every time you upgrade JMRI. A better fix may be to keep jdom.jar outside of lib and add ¡®--cp:p=¡°C:\path\to\jdom.jar¡±¡¯ to the launcher for Designer since this will survive upgrades of JMRI. See for more information on that.
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Re: Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette
#paneleditor
Bob, Cliff,
I believe I have found the bug that causes the lack of image icons for signal heads. ?Since I rarely work in the Control Panel Editor code, I need to do more research to confirm my findings.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: Bob England <rje.bob@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette #paneleditor
Date: Friday, February 07, 2020 10:16 PM
DaveS / DaveH
Thanks very much for your comments.? Between your thoughts and CliffA's comments, I was able to migrate the icons.? The "Preferences" option did not show up previously, but when I physically deleted from the program directory the icon files, it showed up when JMRI asked what icon file to point to when it could not find the old file.? I've restructured the layout file with the icons on my J: directory.
Signal head icons are all still wonky, but at least now I?have the icon files in the proper place.
Thnks guys!
BobE
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I dispatch on a fiends layout using Panel Pro. Every session the program stalls 2 to 3 time. He just told me tonight that when he does his restaging it stall also. Is there some setting that needs to be fixed? Or what can be the problem?
PJ
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Well those train IDs sure sound like the good old Espee to me...
All my years of listenng to the scanner as trains left Taylor Yard, the crew would report to the DS train length, MTs, and Loads (as well as lead unit and HPPT). I get it, the more info the better, but here we try to reproduce how the big boys did it anyhow (for those that want to play that way at least).?
On the layout here (SP), crew paperwork informs them to notify DS if they have any work enroute. The DS needs to ask and hold trains until he gets the info he needs... ? ?:)
Its your RR, so do it like you want, and Happy RRing!
jeff
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Re: Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette
#paneleditor
DaveS / DaveH
Thanks very much for your comments.? Between your thoughts and CliffA's comments, I was able to migrate the icons.? The "Preferences" option did not show up previously, but when I physically deleted from the program directory the icon files, it showed up when JMRI asked what icon file to point to when it could not find the old file.? I've restructured the layout file with the icons on my J: directory.
Signal head icons are all still wonky, but at least now I?have the icon files in the proper place.
Thnks guys!
BobE
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Re: Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette
#paneleditor
I should add that I do not have this problem with turnout or sensor icons.
BobE
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Re: Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette
#paneleditor
Cliff
I definitely think we are on the same page.? When I drag-and-drop from ADD ITEMS - ITEM PALETTE - SIGNAL HEAD, this is exactly what I get - an empty list of icons in the XML file and an "X" on the Panel.? Signal heads inserted some while back are fine, and can be copied/relocated and work fine.
Also, I cannot change a signal?head icon set when I right click on an "X" icon and go to "Edit Signal Head Icon ...".? When I do this, I get the following in the System Console:
2020-02-07 21:43:17,497 ptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler ERROR - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler [AWT-EventQueue-0]
java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Invalid index
?at javax.swing.DefaultRowSorter.convertRowIndexToModel(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JTable.convertRowIndexToModel(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JTable.getValueAt(Unknown Source)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.palette.SignalHeadItemPanel.valueChanged(SignalHeadItemPanel.java:82)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.changeSelection(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.changeSelection(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.removeSelectionIntervalImpl(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultListSelectionModel.clearSelection(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JTable.clearSelection(Unknown Source)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.palette.TableItemPanel.getTableSelection(TableItemPanel.java:208)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.SignalHeadIcon.updateItem(SignalHeadIcon.java:413)
?at jmri.jmrit.display.SignalHeadIcon$9.actionPerformed(SignalHeadIcon.java:389)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
BobE
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