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Locked Re: Signal heads losing SSL during power down and up

John
 

Ken,

I would have preferred to let JMRI delete the heads; as you say, one character ...... Backup, backup, backup.

Any ideas as to why the delete button did not work? At the time, the issue with the heads was out of sequence turnout addresses in the initial setup. JMRI appeared to allow the initial setup, including SSLs, but, apparently, removed the SSLs on reboot.

Thanks,

John


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:23 PM Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
John,

I generally run with an open console somewhere on the screen. I'll check it
now and then for odd messages. Particularly if I suspect issues and before
exiting, in case something did happen. While something could happen without
logging, that would be extremely rare.

I've found that resorting to manual (edit the file outside of JMRI) to
remove signal heads was seldom needed. But to clear out all the SSL, I've
found it the only true way a number of times.

But you must be very exact when doing that type of edit. One character left
in the wrong place can really mess up the file.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
Locked Re: Having Issues with Panels Pallets

Bob England
 

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Cliff

Thanks for the advice and I apologize for providing scanty information. I should have some time this evening to pull what you suggest together.?

Thanks!

BobE

On Feb 4, 2020, at 1:44 AM, Cliff Anderson <cliffaa@...> wrote:

?

Bob,

It is entirely likely that others on this list are having the same difficulties that I do. Bluntly, there is not enough information provided to surmise what kind of help can be suggested.

Please read very carefully the requested information message and provide at least a copy of the text in your jmri/log/session.log file or a copy of the text in your "JMRI System Console" window using Cut and Paste but not as an attached file.

There are three Panel Editors that are commonly used and a fourth Editor that I have no experience with. Identifying which Editor you are using goes a long way toward how one of the members can couch a response to your question. Your mention of signal heads and pallets suggest that you might be having trouble with Layout Editor.

Looking forward to your added information.

Cliff in Baja SoCal
Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Sorry, Max speed was my error - I was quickly scanning through the JMRI tables and comparing these to the xslt output and forgot it was calculated (I think I had block length in mind, which is also missing :)....)

I've tried JMRI.4.19.3ish+jenkins+20200204T0524Z+R02e3ae7ae2 and I can see Routes and Memory Variables changes ok - thanks.

In Firefox my Blocks display is still "shifted". I've tried "Preferences-Clear Data" but to no avail. However, in Opera it looks fine. I'm thinking there's some cached item still floating around in Firefox. I'll try it on another machine when I get the chance.

Using this made me think something similar for the tag ids xml would be really good....

Andy
Locked Re: Having Issues with Panels Pallets

 

Bob,

It is entirely likely that others on this list are having the same difficulties that I do. Bluntly, there is not enough information provided to surmise what kind of help can be suggested.

Please read very carefully the requested information message and provide at least a copy of the text in your jmri/log/session.log file or a copy of the text in your "JMRI System Console" window using Cut and Paste but not as an attached file.

There are three Panel Editors that are commonly used and a fourth Editor that I have no experience with. Identifying which Editor you are using goes a long way toward how one of the members can couch a response to your question. Your mention of signal heads and pallets suggest that you might be having trouble with Layout Editor.

Looking forward to your added information.

Cliff in Baja SoCal
Locked Re: Having Issues with Panels Pallets

Bob England
 

OK.? I didn't have any replies to my query, so I thought I'd try something drastic.? I removed JMRI completely from the computer (windows 7 files removed from USERS folder, PROGRAM FILES (x86) folder, and?my linked user files folder?in the cloud).? Reinstalled JMRI completely.?Same thing happened including the "different icon set" pop-up, so it would seem to me to point to?a JMRI problem (v4.18 and earlier not sure what version started the problem), but?I'm totally stumped as I'm assuming this is not a problem everyone is having.

I'm going to reinstall my yesterday's version of JMRI.? It means I have to go in and manually code in the signal head appearance in the panels?file and the paletts working wonky.??A pain.

If anyone has thoughts on where to turn, a bit of direction?would be much appreciated.

BobE
Locked Re: back up to another comuter #backup

 

Mike,

On 4 Feb 2020, at 1:44 AM, Mike Swederska <shur-way@...> wrote:

User Files Location: C:\Users\Mike Swederska\Dropbox\JMRI\
Roster Location: C:\Users\Mike Swederska\Dropbox\JMRI\
That looks good. That's what I'd expect.

Profile Location: C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\Meramec_Valley_Lines.jmri\
Settings Location: C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\
Current Config file:C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\Meramec_Valley_Lines.jmri\ProfileConfig.xml
Scripts Location: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\
Program Location: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI
Temp Files Location:C:\Users\MIKESW~1\AppData\Local\Temp\
Log Files Location: C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\log\
C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\log\messages.log
C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\log\messages.log.1
C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\log\messages.log.2
C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\log\session.log
The rest is fine as well. Two things:
1) Please give us a list of the files and folders currently in:
"C:\Users\Mike Swederska\Dropbox\JMRI\"

2) Please go to the Help->System Console menu item, click Copy to Clipboard and paste that into message for us all to see. Alternatively, upload the "C:\Users\Mike Swederska\JMRI\log\session.log" file to a folder with your name that you create in the Files area of this list and in the Problems Being Worked On folder already there.

Dave in Australia
Locked Documentation, JMRI Code: Building with NetBeans for Windows.

 

Hi All,
In NetBeans 11.2 I go Tools, Plugins.
In the Plugins Windows, I go "installed (99)" and tick the "Show Details" box.
I scroll down to "Change Line Endings on Save"
How do I check if I have set line endings correctly?
I have gone through tools, options but cannot see anything there.
Stephen Brown
Locked Re: Signal heads losing SSL during power down and up

 

John,

I generally run with an open console somewhere on the screen. I'll check it
now and then for odd messages. Particularly if I suspect issues and before
exiting, in case something did happen. While something could happen without
logging, that would be extremely rare.

I've found that resorting to manual (edit the file outside of JMRI) to
remove signal heads was seldom needed. But to clear out all the SSL, I've
found it the only true way a number of times.

But you must be very exact when doing that type of edit. One character left
in the wrong place can really mess up the file.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Locked Re: WiThrottle crash? #withrottleserver

 

Thanks, Dave.
This one shows a completely different crash, seemingly from an attempt to update the WiThrottle window before it has been fully prepared.?
Can you provide a bit more context here? Does this occur every time you restart JMRI with a WiThrottle client connected? What happens if you restart the client?
Also, were you able to duplicate the earlier crash?
--SteveT
Locked Re: WiThrottle crash? #withrottleserver

 

Restarted the Mac and started JMRI (WiThrottle set to start with app). During JMRI start there was an iPhone running withrottle. This phone showed up as "unknown" (mac address was same one as when phone was connected earlier with proper name). When I see "Unknown" in the device name it means that its time for some buggy operation. Sometimes unknown and "Daves iPhone" appear together, but the iPhone throttle doesn't actually work.

Here's the short log:?
2020-02-03 20:23:56,147 util.Log4JUtil? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2020-02-03 20:23:57,418 util.Log4JUtil? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - This log is appended to file: /Users/davebarraza/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/messages.log [main]
2020-02-03 20:23:57,418 util.Log4JUtil? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - This log is stored in file: /Users/davebarraza/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/session.log [main]
2020-02-03 20:23:57,427 apps.Apps? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - PanelPro version 4.19.2+R846b684 starts under Java 1.8.0_231 on Mac OS X x86_64 v10.15.3 at Mon Feb 03 20:23:57 EST 2020 [main]
2020-02-03 20:23:57,639 apps.Apps? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3e80976d [main]
2020-02-03 20:23:57,723 node.NodeIdentity? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Using c6f7c494-1590-4edf-83b6-fe19a3b8d450 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3e80976d [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-03 20:23:57,789 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "CAN" [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,157 gridconnect.GcSerialDriverAdapter? ? ?INFO? - cu.usbmodem1461301 port opened at 57600 baud, sees? DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false? CD: false [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,218 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "SPROG Programmer" [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,237 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter? ? ? INFO? - cu.usbserial-feedcode port opened at 9600 baud, sees? DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true? CD: false [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,252 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,270 locobufferusb.LocoBufferUsbAdapter? ? INFO? - LocoBuffer-USB adapter set hardware flow control, mode=2 RTSCTS_OUT=2 RTSCTS_IN=1 [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,270 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter? ? ? ? ? INFO? - cu.usbserial-FTXPTBL0 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true? CD: false [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,289 loconet.LnPacketizer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - lnPacketizer Started [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,290 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,308 locobufferusb.LocoBufferUsbAdapter? ? INFO? - LocoBuffer-USB adapter set hardware flow control, mode=2 RTSCTS_OUT=2 RTSCTS_IN=1 [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,309 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter? ? ? ? ? INFO? - cu.usbserial-FTOYEDZV port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true? CD: false [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,310 loconet.LnPacketizer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - lnPacketizer Started [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,747 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - WiThrottle listening on TCP port: 12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,804 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:f81f:26a0:e5d0:778f%utun1:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,804 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:b727:325d:9a87:7eb1%utun0:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,806 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:4c67:9eff:fe2e:f985%awdl0:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,806 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:0:0:0:1%lo0:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,807 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:1494:f9da:15e4:6394%en1:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,807 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.1.102:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,808 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'new york and atlantic._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:aede:48ff:fe00:1122%en6:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:00,808 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,247 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Creating input? stream reader for /fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,251 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Creating output stream writer for /fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,255 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: VN2.0? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,257 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: RL78]\[BA 67}|{67}|{S]\[BA 78}|{78}|{S]\[BR 1338}|{1338}|{L]\[BR 1350}|{1350}|{L]\[CP 5723}|{5723}|{L]\[CP 5726}|{5726}|{L]\[CSX 1303}|{1303}|{L]\[CSX 1304}|{1304}|{L]\[CSX 8058}|{8058}|{L]\[CSX 8199}|{8199}|{L]\[CSX_4042}|{4042}|{L]\[CSX_4049}|{4049}|{L]\[DCR 31452}|{1452}|{L]\[DH 7414}|{7414}|{L]\[DH 7418}|{7418}|{L]\[EMD 779}|{779}|{L]\[Korea Brass 7566}|{7566}|{L]\[LI 1500 old baseline}|{1500}|{L]\[LI 1501}|{1501}|{L]\[LI 151}|{151}|{L]\[LI 1558}|{1558}|{L]\[LI 158}|{158}|{L]\[LI 164}|{164}|{L]\[LI 172}|{172}|{L]\[LI 172 backup}|{172}|{L]\[LI 2007}|{2007}|{L]\[LI 202}|{202}|{L]\[LI 222}|{222}|{L]\[LI 224}|{224}|{L]\[LI 225}|{225}|{L]\[LI 226}|{226}|{L]\[LI 229}|{229}|{L]\[LI 254}|{254}|{L]\[LI 256}|{256}|{L]\[LI 276}|{276}|{L]\[LI 3101}|{3101}|{L]\[LI 3121}|{3121}|{L]\[LI 4137}|{4137}|{L]\[LI 4137 blowedup}|{3}|{S]\[LI 4145 New}|{4145}|{L]\[LI 4145 old baseline}|{4145}|{L]\[LI 464}|{464}|{L]\[LI 466}|{466}|{L]\[MW-418}|{628}|{L]\[MW-628}|{628}|{L]\[NJT 4428}|{4428}|{L]\[NJT 7001}|{7001}|{L]\[NYA 151}|{151}|{L]\[NYA 156}|{156}|{L]\[NYA 159}|{159}|{L]\[NYA 261}|{261}|{L]\[NYA 261(spare)}|{261}|{L]\[NYA 268}|{268}|{L]\[NYA 270}|{270}|{L]\[NYA 271}|{271}|{L]\[PKP 1028}|{1028}|{L]\[PNCX 3634}|{3634}|{L]\[PRR 88030}|{8030}|{L]\[PSX-AR 1125T}|{988}|{L]\[PW 2009}|{2009}|{L]\[PW 3902}|{3902}|{L]\[PW 4005}|{4005}|{L]\[PW 4301}|{4301}|{L]\[PW 4302}|{4302}|{L]\[QLN11004}|{11004}|{L]\[QLN11004v2}|{11004}|{L]\[QLN11005}|{11005}|{L]\[QLN11006}|{11006}|{L]\[QLN11007}|{11007}|{L]\[S057ML}|{12023}|{L]\[S079ML}|{12101}|{L]\[SignalMan Default}|{9999}|{L]\[SignalMan in Test Lab 11101}|{11101}|{L]\[SLRG 8542}|{8542}|{L]\[SNC 8524}|{8524}|{L]\[SP 4809}|{4809}|{L]\[Vaughan Black Porter}|{1001}|{L]\[William Penn}|{6}|{S? to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,258 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Track Power valid. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,259 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PPA2? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,259 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Turnout Controller valid. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,263 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PTT]\[Turnouts}|{Turnout]\[Closed}|{2]\[Thrown}|{4? to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,267 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Route Controller valid. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,268 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PRT]\[Routes}|{Route]\[Active}|{2]\[Inactive}|{4? to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,269 withrottle.ConsistController? ? ? ? ? DEBUG - Using JMRIConsisting [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,270 consisttool.ConsistFile? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Consist file does not exist.? One will be created if necessary. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,270 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Consist Controller valid. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,271 withrottle.ConsistController? ? ? ? ? DEBUG - 0 consists found. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,271 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: RCC0? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,272 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Fast Clock Controller valid. [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,272 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PFT1580761446<;>1.0? ?to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,272 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PW12080? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,273 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Starting thread 'DeviceServer-1' [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,273 withrottle.FacelessServer? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,273 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Notify Device Add [DeviceServer-1]
2020-02-03 20:24:06,274 ptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler ERROR - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler [DeviceServer-1]
java.lang.NullPointerException
at jmri.jmrit.withrottle.UserInterface.notifyDeviceConnected(UserInterface.java:265)
at jmri.jmrit.withrottle.DeviceServer.run(DeviceServer.java:170)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)
2020-02-03 20:24:31,097 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PPA1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,213 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path program: is /Applications/JMRI/ [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,214 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path preference: is /Users/davebarraza/Dropbox/JMRI/NY&A Model Railroad/ [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,214 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path profile: is /Users/davebarraza/Dropbox/JMRI/NY&A Model Railroad/ [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,214 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path settings: is /Users/davebarraza/Library/Preferences/JMRI/ [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,214 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path home: is /Users/davebarraza/ [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,214 util.FileUtilSupport? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - File path scripts: is /Users/davebarraza/Dropbox/JMRI/Jython/ [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,544 server.WebServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Starting Web Server on port 12080 [WebServer]
2020-02-03 20:24:31,735 PanelPro.PanelPro? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?INFO? - Main initialization done [main]
2020-02-03 20:24:32,195 server.WebServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? INFO? - Starting ZeroConfService _http._tcp.local for Web Server with properties {path=/, json=5.3.0} [WebServer]
2020-02-03 20:25:00,382 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PFT1580761500<;>1.0? ?to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-03 20:25:00,382 withrottle.DeviceServer? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DEBUG - Sent: PFT1580761500<;>1.0? ?to? Unknown/fe80:0:0:0:835:6d53:56b4:41dc%7:52404 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Bob, Andy,

A typical signal mast logic xml entry consists of only the source mast and its destination masts. If the SML is manually created or modified, the user supplied blocks, turnouts, sensors and other masts will be included. The path speed is not included.

For generated SML, the blocks and turnouts are identified during start up using block routing.

The path speed is calculated using the block speeds and turnout leg speeds (based on turnout position).


Dave Sand

----- Original message -----
From: Bob Jacobsen <rgj1927@...>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout
Date: Monday, February 03, 2020 5:13 PM

Thanks! I think I¡¯ve fixed the first three now.

I don¡¯t see a ¡°Max Speed¡± value in the signal mast logic stored values. Could you provide a file that has it as an example?

Bob

On Feb 3, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Andy Brown <andy.badshot@...> wrote:

Bob
A couple of things I've noticed so far:

? Blocks section is a bit messed up. The body of the table is shifted right compared to headings (system name under username etc), and there is no Username displayed.
? Routes have no user name shown
? "Memories" used as title rather than "Memory Variables", as used in tables
? No Max Speed value shown in Signal Mast Logic

Hope that helps
Andy
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Thanks! I think I¡¯ve fixed the first three now.

I don¡¯t see a ¡°Max Speed¡± value in the signal mast logic stored values. Could you provide a file that has it as an example?

Bob

On Feb 3, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Andy Brown <andy.badshot@...> wrote:

Bob
A couple of things I've noticed so far:

? Blocks section is a bit messed up. The body of the table is shifted right compared to headings (system name under username etc), and there is no Username displayed.
? Routes have no user name shown
? "Memories" used as title rather than "Memory Variables", as used in tables
? No Max Speed value shown in Signal Mast Logic

Hope that helps
Andy
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Bob
A couple of things I've noticed so far:

  • Blocks section is a bit messed up. The body of the table is shifted right compared to headings (system name under username etc), and there is no Username displayed.
  • Routes have no user name shown
  • "Memories" used as title rather than "Memory Variables", as used in tables
  • No Max Speed value shown in Signal Mast Logic

Hope that helps
Andy
Locked Re: New JMRI Version breaks my panels #4-18

 

? ? The JMRI versions you downloaded would be in the download folder.

Roger
Locked Re: New JMRI Version breaks my panels #4-18

 

The bottom of panel files says what version of JMRI was used to write them.

Bob

On Feb 3, 2020, at 1:05 PM, rzeollaorcl <robert.zeolla@...> wrote:

I do not know what version I upgraded from. And cannot find out unless I restore the backups. Is there another way to locate that information?
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Thanks! (That¡¯s the same version as the mail I just sent, sorry for the confusion)

It was originally created to be a printable form, for people who wanted to pop something in a notebook.

Let me know if you notice any issues, missing parts, etc.

Bob

On Feb 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Andy Brown <andy.badshot@...> wrote:

Bob
I've tried it in JMRI.4.19.3ish+jenkins+20200203T1929Z+Rb4f477330b and my panel xml displays fine now.

I think having a more readable format will encourage me to add comments against some of the items. That should help me and others understand it better when looking at in the future.

Thanks for the quick fix!
Andy
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Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Could you try this one please?



Bob

On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Andy Brown <andy.badshot@...> wrote:

Bob
Unfortunately the work-around didn't work for me. When used on the 'test' file (v29) it yielded the same error. On my latest panel (v36) it produced 'gibberish' - no formatting at all, just a long list of the items. Here's an excerpt from the start of what was produced:

4 19 3 ish MS+2020 RS-X-XoverStraight MS+2021 RS-X-XoverLoopAB MS+2022 RS-X-XoverLoopCD MS+2023 RS-X-XoverInnerSwap MS+2024 RS-X-XoverOuterSwap MS+2031 RS-1-MainA Route Set MS+2032 RS-1-MainB MS+2033 RS-2-MainC MS+2034 RS-2-MainD MS+2100 KL-1-All MS+2101 KL-1-1 Keypad LED MS+2102 KL-1-2 MS+2103 KL-1-3 MS+2104 KL-1-4 MS+2105 KL-1-5 MS+2106 KL-1-6 MS+2107 KL-1-7.......

I'm not in a hurry for this, so I'll give it another try when the new JMRI version is available.

Thanks for quick response
Andy
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rgj1927@...
Locked Re: New JMRI Version breaks my panels #4-18

 

I do not know what version I upgraded from.? And cannot find out unless I restore the backups.? Is there another way to locate that information?
Locked Re: Some questions about signaling and the best way to debug the layout

 

Bob
I've tried it in JMRI.4.19.3ish+jenkins+20200203T1929Z+Rb4f477330b and my panel xml displays fine now.

I think having a more readable format will encourage me to add comments against some of the items. That should help me and others understand it better when looking at in the future.

Thanks for the quick fix!
Andy
Locked Re: Signal heads losing SSL during power down and up

John
 

Ken,
Thanks for the information. I have Panel Pro set up to ask for a file selection when it is booted. I had the file name issue earlier and found that forcing me to make the selection each time eliminated that problem. Plus, I use simulator for offline programming and configuration so when I boot Panel Pro, I have to make at selection to be sure I get into the correct file.

I think the original problem was related to signal heads. I had programmed some of them incorrectly and was not able to delete them from the signal head table. They were SE8C 4 aspect heads and would not go away. I first tried to block them out by removing the user name and then re-entered new heads. I had hoped this method would work as the set signals at turnout function uses the user names and not the system names. However, that was when the problems started. I eventually went into the XML file and deleted the heads manually and that seems to have fixed the problem.

I am not sure why the delete button in the signal head table did not work.

I appreciate your time,

John


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:16 AM KEN <boomer17@...> wrote:
John,
I think Ken meant to say Store instead of save. Some how, for whatever reason, the save command has been changed back to Store.




On 2/2/2020 12:31 PM, Ken Cameron wrote:
John,

The most frequent issue is you make a change on the panel and either fail to
save it before shutting down or you save it to (usually a new) one filename
but don't update the startup and load the old filename instead. Either way
next time you run; you don't have those last changes.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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