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Locked Re: Current Version?

 

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Rock,

16 is higher than 6.?

David Klemm
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of rockpizza09 <pizza_r@...>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:48:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Current Version?
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Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If 4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock


Locked Re: Current Version?

 

Rock:

10, ten... slow on the uptake today...

Jim


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Rock:

4.16 is the current release version... 8 bumps up from 4.6...

Check the notes for special instructions that might be needed for that jump there's been a lot of changes.

Jim Albanowski


Locked Current Version?

 

Gentlemen,

I need a little help with two questions:

1. I went to the JMRI web site's down load page and it says that the current version is 4.16. If I start my version on my computer it says that I have version 4.6-R81496dc? Did they restart the version numbers? Got any ideas? If 4.16 is newer do I install it over top of the old one or put it in a new directory?

2. I recently purchase an engine with an unknown decoder. I went to add the engine into my roster and asked decoder pro to identify the decoder. It came back and said that it was a Train Control Systems/Jan 2000. It highlighted about 10 different decoders. Which one do I choose?

Thanks for any help.

Rock


Locked Re: Virtual Sound Decoder - Clicks on looped sound files

 

Tried to upload but it failed twice.? First try was through the "browse" window, second with a "drag" move.? Program (not computer) locked up.

Conrad


Locked Re: Virtual Sound Decoder - Clicks on looped sound files

 

Klaus,

You are correct, I do have a click in notch 2.? my mod consisted of making a separate EMD645 file by removing all the other locos and changing the notch setting points to 10, 20, 30 & 100.? My note says it "works perfectly" but it does have the click at notch 2.? I also now see that the original notched at different points when accelerating and decelerating.? I don't know if what I did is prototypical.

Per Matt H's instruction, I've sent the vsd file to?/g/jmriusers/files/VSD

Conrad


Locked Seeking advice on session planning using Operations and CATS

 

Hi,

I am a novice user of OperationsPro (OP) and an intermediate user of CATS.? I?have used the latter to dispatch several operating sessions now, but I am just in the process bringing OP into the mix.? I have sorted out how CATS and OP can communicate session progress at run time (OP reports train data to CATS and CATS reports train progress to OP) and I would like to use that capability during a session to manage progress.

As I prepare for my next session, I am looking for recommendations on how to manage the building of trains in OP while being able to exploit the run time capability noted above.? My preference would be to have all the trains built in OP in advance, print the necessary switch lists, then reset OP to the beginning of the session so that it can communicate the proper real-time info to CATS (such as train length at departure).? I feel it would be too hectic to try and build trains & print paperwork in real time.? One complication is that some trains in the session depend on earlier trains having completed their work, so they cannot be built until the earlier trains have terminated (if I understand OP correctly).

One idea I've had is to take a pre-session snapshot as a backup, build, print, and terminate trains for the session, then reset with the backup.? I think I would still have to re-build the trains as the session progresses, but having gone through a "virtual" session beforehand, and having the lists printed in advance, I think that would be manageable.? I welcome any suggestions, as I may be missing an obvious and better solution, for example using Save Builds, but I'm not seeing it now.

Thanks in advance,
Gary


Locked Re: RR-Cirkits Motorman and Berrett Hill Toggle Switch pairing

 

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Steve,

I think all you need to do is plug ribbon cables from the translator to a TowerMan, (or other I/O port) one cable for controlling the color, and the other for outputting the commands. The power for the Touch devices will come from the TowerMan, so no external 5V power is required, but can optionally be supplied to reduce the load on the SSB.

Dick :)

On 9/2/2019 8:31 AM, pustays wrote:

I am attempting to begin automation of the trains on my layout using jmri. Currently I have enabled block detection using RR-Cirkits watchman connected through RR-Cirkits Locobuffer USB. All is running well.

Because I control my turnouts with Berrett Hill Touch Toggles, I am unable to control turnouts using JMRI/Panel Pro turnout tables/etc. Can anyone give advice regarding how I might allow control of turnouts with JMRI. I have an RR-Cirkits Motorman and the Berrett Hill Universal Translator (neither yet installed) and don't know how to get them to work with each other. Any ideas or anyone I might contact for help would be appreciated.

I don't know if it's important to know the other hardware on my layout ... but here is the list.?
Command Station : Digitrax Zephyr
Booster: Digitrax DB150
Power Management/Reversing : Digitrax PM42
Computer Connection : Lenovo Laptop PC to RR-Cirkits LocoBuffer USB
Power Supply to RR-Cirkits Watchman : RR-Cirkits SSB adapter
Turnout Control : Berrett Hill Touch Toggles (3 DB8 and 1 DB4)
Block Detection : RR-Cirkits Watchman
Turnout Control : ???? Don't have any idea if I've got this right ... RR-Cirkits Motorman & Berrett Hill Universal Translator

Thanks,

Steve Pustay


Locked Re: Signal pair conflict with turnout state? and auto train speed.?

 

To run my version, you will need JMRI 4.17.3, Steve is running 4.15.9. ?In either case, you will need a profile that has the connection set to "DCC++ Simulator".

Dave Sand


On Sep 2, 2019, at 7:42 AM, haltz@... wrote:

Hello, Dave and Steve. I continue to get the same parse error, with all of the xml files the both of you provided. My JMRI version is 4.14+Rd060e0b, is?that a problem? And I'm offline, the "about" screen says "NCE:using Simulator on (none)". Is that a problem?


Locked Help with panels

 

Guys,?

New to Panel Pro, are there any videos on how to use Panel Pro? I¡¯m having a hell of a time getting one setup.

Wayne Snyder


Locked Re: Signal pair conflict with turnout state? and auto train speed.?

 

Hello, Dave and Steve. I continue to get the same parse error, with all of the xml files the both of you provided. My JMRI version is 4.14+Rd060e0b, is that a problem? And I'm offline, the "about" screen says "NCE:using Simulator on (none)". Is that a problem?


Locked RR-Cirkits Motorman and Berrett Hill Toggle Switch pairing

 

I am attempting to begin automation of the trains on my layout using jmri. Currently I have enabled block detection using RR-Cirkits watchman connected through RR-Cirkits Locobuffer USB. All is running well.

Because I control my turnouts with Berrett Hill Touch Toggles, I am unable to control turnouts using JMRI/Panel Pro turnout tables/etc. Can anyone give advice regarding how I might allow control of turnouts with JMRI. I have an RR-Cirkits Motorman and the Berrett Hill Universal Translator (neither yet installed) and don't know how to get them to work with each other. Any ideas or anyone I might contact for help would be appreciated.

I don't know if it's important to know the other hardware on my layout ... but here is the list.?
Command Station : Digitrax Zephyr
Booster: Digitrax DB150
Power Management/Reversing : Digitrax PM42
Computer Connection : Lenovo Laptop PC to RR-Cirkits LocoBuffer USB
Power Supply to RR-Cirkits Watchman : RR-Cirkits SSB adapter
Turnout Control : Berrett Hill Touch Toggles (3 DB8 and 1 DB4)
Block Detection : RR-Cirkits Watchman
Turnout Control : ???? Don't have any idea if I've got this right ... RR-Cirkits Motorman & Berrett Hill Universal Translator

Thanks,

Steve Pustay


Locked Re: HTTPS?

 

Colin, Matt:

If nothing is downloaded/bought from that server then the expense of the "S"... secure status isn't a huge issue. Well if your browser flatly refuses...

Our MRR (The Pacific Southern... age 55 and counting... shameless plug for fall show... pacificsouthern.org) club didn't bother and saved the fee.

Of course users then need to understand why that's happening and what the real consequences are of going to the site.

Jim Albanowski


Locked Re: HTTPS?

 

Colin,

I've been working on it but there are a few hurdles with regard getting the config right on the server used to host the main website.

The status page you mentioned is running on a different service.

Best regards,

Matt H


Locked HTTPS?

 

Hi,

The JMRI website isn't available over HTTPS. May I suggest it's time to add that and make it the default? Chrome for example is marking sites without HTTPS as "Not secure". A user is reporting that Norton Safeweb is popping up an "unsafe" and "highly recommended not to visit" warning for jmri.org:?

But I see that status.jmri.org has HTTPS using Let's Encrypt. acme.sh makes it very easy to setup.

If you need extra hands to help admin the site, I'm happy to help.

/Colin


Locked Re: Panel Pro Runs with Errors

Peter Rushworth
 

Hi Dave,

The three icons have been uploaded to the Photos page under the heading Panel Pro Runs with Errors.

I am using the version 4.16 of JMRI.

I wondered if I have missed some of the updates. Though I also have a copy of the Panel dated in late 2018 which still gives the same results.

I¡¯m not sure what you means when you say the signal hands have no content. As far as I can see these two signals are the same as the other 30 odd signal heads on the layout.

Any additional help you can give would be appreciated.

Thanks
Peter


Locked Re: JMRI Panel Questions

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 04:44 PM, Frank Kenny CPRX Model Railroad wrote:
We have deleted these (or thought we did) many times, only to have them reappear when JMRI is re-started. What are we missing here? How can we get rid of these old panels for good?
As Dave says, if you open a panel and several appear, you have to delete the ones you do not want, and then save the remaining panel(s) (I usually "save-as" mine to a new name to minimize confusion).

You did not indicate whether you were manually loading panels, but if they appear when starting, they might be in the Preferences in the "Start Up" section which would load automatically when JMRI is started (with that Profile).

Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA


Locked Re: Decoder pro

 

Glenn,

On 1 Sep 2019, at 11:39 PM, Glenn Ericson <glennericson@...> wrote:

i am using decoder pro on a raspberry pi and am trying the program dimming head lamps in a scale trains C39-8 with a lokpilot decoder
The latest version of JMRI (4.17.3) will correctly identify these decoders and allow you to program them. Did you try New Loco->Read Type from Decoder? That's the only safe way to program these ESU decoders.

Earlier than V4.16 will possibly have a problem with the available lighting options for some ESU non-sound decoders.

Dave in Australia


Locked Does the order of elements in JMRI's panel files matter to you?

 

Originally, JMRI did not preserve the order of elements when writing its XML panel files. The order of turnout definitions could and did change when you loaded and stored a file.

By user request, pretty early on, that was changed to make an effort (but not guarantee!) that the order would be preserved from one store to another. The code to do this was complicated, and there were various things that could cause an item to be written in a different order, but it basically worked.

But does anybody really care?

It would simplify the code, and significantly speed up certain operations, if we stopped trying to maintain the load-by order. In that case, elements (turnouts, sensors, etc) would be written into the file in order by system name.

This seems like a reasonable change to me. JMRI isn¡¯t a word processor: the panel files are a record of JMRI¡¯s internal state, not a document that¡¯s being written. Having that record be in the order that JMRI maintains internally is a simplification. (For a while, JMRI has maintained its internal lists in order by system name to speed up access in tables, etc)

But perhaps this would cause a significant problem for some use case. Maybe somebody has another app that needs a particular order in files from JMRI?

If this would be a problem for you, please let me know how and why. Otherwise, we¡¯ll likely make this change in the current set of test releases.

Thanks!

Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...


Locked Re: Panel Pro Runs with Errors

 

Peter,

What version of JMRI are you trying to run with this panel xml file?

The xml file is based on JMRI 3.6 and has not been updated since 2014.

The siglet errors are caused by SSL definitions for the indicated signal heads (LH29 South A2 4A and LH25 West Sidings C 4A) that have no content.

It is not possible to successfully load the panel since there are custom icons. ?They are?block_display.gif and uss-15-1256x850-2rows.gif.

The full system console log would be most helpful. ?This would help diagnose the Java error.


Dave Sand



On Sep 1, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Peter Rushworth <peter@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have been running PanelPro for several years and have found a couple of errors when I look at the System Console. ?In particular the following is?reported in the System Console:
2019-09-02 09:54:10,584 automat.Siglet ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?ERROR - Siglet start invoked for "LH29 South A2 4ABlockBossLogic", but no inputs provided?[AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-09-02 09:54:10,606 automat.Siglet ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?ERROR - Siglet start invoked for "LH25 West Sidings C 4ABlockBossLogic", but no inputs?provided [AWT-EventQueue-0]

and:
2019-09-02 09:54:10,614 configurexml.ErrorHandler ? ? ? ? ? ? ERROR - Unexpected error (Exception) while?load(/Users/peterrushworth/Desktop/My_JMRI_Railroad/7July2016.xml) in adaptor of type jmri.managers.configurexml.DefaultRouteManagerXml?Exception: java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: 4
See for possibly more information. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: 4

Not being a software expert I don't know the meaning of "automat.siglet' and the "BlockBossLogic" statement that no inputs are provided. However the?signals appear to work correctly, ie when a switch is changed or the track is occupied. (I use a Digtrax system with BDL168's for occupancy detection.)

The second problem is the Exception: java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBounds for adaptor type jmri.managers.configurexml.DefaultRouteManagerXML. I?cannot find any reference to jmri.managers.configurexml.DefaultRouteManagerXml ?in my Panel File. ?I have loaded the Panel File to the Files List. See?File 7July2016.xml

Can anybody please help me understand the errors in my File.

Thanks.
Peter Rushworth
New Zealand