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Re: Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNigel, ? Thank you for the input. ? The COM ports seem to be correctly established, 1 for each LocoBuffer.? This was verified on Device Manager both before and after re-installing the drivers.? Dick Bronson and I walked thru this multiple times. ? The ports are a mix of USB-2 and USB-3.? I¡¯ll make sure I¡¯m using USB-2 ports next time I¡¯m at the club.? I have a powered USB hub I can try as well. ? Ross ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Nigel Cliffe
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer ? ? I¡¯m assuming that you know to look at the Device Manager on the computer for the LocoBuffer connecting, and establishing a COM port ???? If that¡¯s not appearing to work, then¡.? ? Are the ports on the computer all USB-3 ??? I¡¯ve had issues with numerous older USB devices not working correctly on USB-3 ports.?? If stuck with all of them being USB-3, then I¡¯ve found that sometimes a USB-2 port repeater/hub will help (one USB to the main computer, the repeater/hub has four USB ports).?? ? ?
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On Behalf Of Ross Kudlick ? I¡¯ve hit a road block establishing communication between JMRI and a Digitrax DCS100 using a LocoBuffer-USB interface.? This is a new installation in a computer replacing a recently failed unit.? ? After extensive trouble shooting, including a lengthy telephone trouble shooting consultation with Dick Bronson (RR-CirKits), I believe the issue is with the computer.? ? The trouble shooting has covered all of the ¡®usual suspects;¡¯? JMRI Configuration and Preferences; COM port confirmation, etc.?? Dick had me re-install the LocoBuffer-USB drivers (after removing them using a utility posted on the RR-CirKits web site).? ? The ¡®Monitor LocoNet Stats¡¯ window is blank.? The LocoBuffer is ¡®seeing¡¯ LocoNet activity per the flashing red LED when throttle commands are sent.? This would seem to indicate we are not getting communication between the computer and LocoBuffer.? Several different USB ports were tried; 3 different LocoBuffers were tried.? (The USB ports work with a wireless keyboard and mouse.) ? I substituted a different computer (MS Surface Pro 6 running WIN10 Pro) ?and successfully communicated with the DCS100 with 2 of the 3 LocoBuffers.? (I didn¡¯t try the 3rd LocoBuffer but have no reason to believe it wouldn¡¯t work.) ? Dick and I are at a loss and he suggested I post here to see if anybody has any additional thoughts.? I¡¯m open to any additional ¡®outside-the-box¡¯ ideas. ? Ross Kudlick ? ? Details: HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF? (off-lease refurb) WIN 10 Pro 10.0.18362 JMRI 4.17.9? (version on the failed computer) JAVA 1.8.0_221;? changed to JAVA? 12.0.2? at Dick Bronson¡¯s suggestion during trouble shooting ? LocoBuffer-USB version 2.070 DCS100 firmware version FD |
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Re: Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMarc, ? Thank you for the hint.? I will check next time I¡¯m at the club.? ? Doesn¡¯t explain why it works when the USB cable is unplugged from 1 computer and plugged into the other. ? Ross ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer ? When it is operational those 8 boxes should only be 3. My experience,? cause of this is bad Loconet cable between LB-USB and DCSxx..? I can replicate this by disconnecting the loconet cable in my setup.?
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Phil,
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I have created a simple test case which replicates your issue. I have a pretty good idea of what is happening but I don¡¯t have a solution yet. In the meantime, create a GitHub issue. Dave Sand On Aug 1, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Phil in gorgeous Young Harris via Groups.Io <philabernathy@...> wrote: |
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Re: Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýTypo ¨C S/B ?4.15.9 ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer ? Is that JMRI version 4.17.9? a typo ??? Trying to replicate but not find 4.17.9 on Jenkins |
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Re: Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý? I¡¯m assuming that you know to look at the Device Manager on the computer for the LocoBuffer connecting, and establishing a COM port ???? If that¡¯s not appearing to work, then¡.? ? Are the ports on the computer all USB-3 ??? I¡¯ve had issues with numerous older USB devices not working correctly on USB-3 ports.?? If stuck with all of them being USB-3, then I¡¯ve found that sometimes a USB-2 port repeater/hub will help (one USB to the main computer, the repeater/hub has four USB ports).?? ? ? -????????? Nigel ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Ross Kudlick
Sent: 01 August 2019 20:21 To: [email protected] Subject: [jmriusers] Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer ? I¡¯ve hit a road block establishing communication between JMRI and a Digitrax DCS100 using a LocoBuffer-USB interface.? This is a new installation in a computer replacing a recently failed unit.? ? After extensive trouble shooting, including a lengthy telephone trouble shooting consultation with Dick Bronson (RR-CirKits), I believe the issue is with the computer.? ? The trouble shooting has covered all of the ¡®usual suspects;¡¯? JMRI Configuration and Preferences; COM port confirmation, etc.?? Dick had me re-install the LocoBuffer-USB drivers (after removing them using a utility posted on the RR-CirKits web site).? ? The ¡®Monitor LocoNet Stats¡¯ window is blank.? The LocoBuffer is ¡®seeing¡¯ LocoNet activity per the flashing red LED when throttle commands are sent.? This would seem to indicate we are not getting communication between the computer and LocoBuffer.? Several different USB ports were tried; 3 different LocoBuffers were tried.? (The USB ports work with a wireless keyboard and mouse.) ? I substituted a different computer (MS Surface Pro 6 running WIN10 Pro) ?and successfully communicated with the DCS100 with 2 of the 3 LocoBuffers.? (I didn¡¯t try the 3rd LocoBuffer but have no reason to believe it wouldn¡¯t work.) ? Dick and I are at a loss and he suggested I post here to see if anybody has any additional thoughts.? I¡¯m open to any additional ¡®outside-the-box¡¯ ideas. ? Ross Kudlick ? ? Details: HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF? (off-lease refurb) WIN 10 Pro 10.0.18362 JMRI 4.17.9? (version on the failed computer) JAVA 1.8.0_221;? changed to JAVA? 12.0.2? at Dick Bronson¡¯s suggestion during trouble shooting ? LocoBuffer-USB version 2.070 DCS100 firmware version FD |
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Re: Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMarc, ? All 8 boxes are blank. ? Ross ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer ? On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 03:20 PM, Ross Kudlick wrote:
Is that? with 8 blank boxes or? 3 blank boxes ? |
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Phil, Now that I understand that you were using one of the panel editors, what you describe seems to make sense, but only almost. Certainly it is common for the panel editors to each make any name change requested to be repeated for all occurrences within the file. In version 4.17.2 changing the user name of a memory variable does also change the use of that name in a Logix conditional. I have not tried to change a system name, but nothing you have written here indicates that you intended that kind of a change. Perhaps my attempt to duplicate what I think you have described is too simplistic. Cliff |
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Re: DecoderPro &ESU LokSound Factory reset
You also need to do Read Type from Decoder, as new Loks from atlas, scale trains, etc are Loksound V5 decoders, not Selects. Add in Old V4.0 and Essential Sound Units, all of which are different, and for all the box says 'Loksound", and I never trust the box.
Quite a few differences between the various versions (Still sorting that out as the V5 are new this year.) And note that the factory documents still say Select ( or V4) even though the new Lok has a V5. (Don't get me started on Essential Sound Units) I Just added a pair of Atlas THB GP7 to my previous pair (Two years old). Old has Selects, new has V5. And lots more features to play with. Same paperwork! Just another tip. Thomas DeSoto, TX |
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Help getting JMRI working on a new WIN10 computer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI¡¯ve hit a road block establishing communication between JMRI and a Digitrax DCS100 using a LocoBuffer-USB interface.? This is a new installation in a computer replacing a recently failed unit.? ? After extensive trouble shooting, including a lengthy telephone trouble shooting consultation with Dick Bronson (RR-CirKits), I believe the issue is with the computer.? ? The trouble shooting has covered all of the ¡®usual suspects;¡¯? JMRI Configuration and Preferences; COM port confirmation, etc.?? Dick had me re-install the LocoBuffer-USB drivers (after removing them using a utility posted on the RR-CirKits web site).? ? The ¡®Monitor LocoNet Stats¡¯ window is blank.? The LocoBuffer is ¡®seeing¡¯ LocoNet activity per the flashing red LED when throttle commands are sent.? This would seem to indicate we are not getting communication between the computer and LocoBuffer.? Several different USB ports were tried; 3 different LocoBuffers were tried.? (The USB ports work with a wireless keyboard and mouse.) ? I substituted a different computer (MS Surface Pro 6 running WIN10 Pro) ?and successfully communicated with the DCS100 with 2 of the 3 LocoBuffers.? (I didn¡¯t try the 3rd LocoBuffer but have no reason to believe it wouldn¡¯t work.) ? Dick and I are at a loss and he suggested I post here to see if anybody has any additional thoughts.? I¡¯m open to any additional ¡®outside-the-box¡¯ ideas. ? Ross Kudlick ? ? Details: HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF? (off-lease refurb) WIN 10 Pro 10.0.18362 JMRI 4.17.9? (version on the failed computer) JAVA 1.8.0_221;? changed to JAVA? 12.0.2? at Dick Bronson¡¯s suggestion during trouble shooting ? LocoBuffer-USB version 2.070 DCS100 firmware version FD |
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Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address
There is a new board called a "decoder buddy" from NixTrains. Almost straight drop in for OEM QSI boards.
Gives you a 21 pin motherboard to install any 21-pin decoder (I prefer Loksound) Thomas DeSoto, TX |
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Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address
Nick
Friends, Just FYI on this off-topic thread. I BETA tested for QSI and the only decoders that had the short-circuit problem were the original OEM decoders OR those that were set for dual mode (analog operation) . Once the OEM decoders had the upgrade chips installed,? and analog operation disabled, they no longer had that problem , nor any other version from version 7 through the latest Titan. I too do decoder installs and have had no problems with any I've done over the past 10 years . Currently I have or 25 personal locos with QSI decoders in them ranging from upgraded OEM in Atlas and BLI locos to converted brass installs. I prefer them to tsunami but that is what makes this a great hobby. We have choices. On the other problem with the NCE system, I have run into an issue similar to that when a friend programmed some decoders on an NCE system. For some unknown reason, the NCE system somehow added a zero to the leading digit of the loco address. (They were 3-digit numbers) Digitrax would not recognize them but the NCE system did. Once I reprogrammed them on a Digitrax system, the problem disappeared. They were not programmed through JMRI on the NCE system but he used the throttle and a programming track. We never did figure out how it happened. Regards, Nick Kulp "I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals" - Nick Kulp Concur with Thomas on the QSI opinion.?? I remove QSI decoders when I encounter one.?? I do DCC installs for others and I won't touch them.? Too problematic, time consuming, and fickle.??? I had one loco that came back to me 3 times, with the complaint that it wouldn't respond to commands on the individuals NCE layout, but when I placed it on my Digitrax layout ran like a champ.
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Howdy Cliff.? I was merely renaming several memory variables in the table (under tools) using the JMRI right-click "Rename" function.? It almost worked.? In already defined Logix, all the changes I made in the Memory Table were updated for the subject, but not the predicate of the Logix action of copy memory to memory.
The reason I found this was that I was fixing an old Control Panel. I had made that CP to update a Layout Editor panel (showing the layout) of the train numbers that were in each section. Unfortunately, several of the train numbers that I was displaying on the Layout needed to be updated to reflect train changes (new train numbers) in our operations.? Train 49 was split into 47/48 and train 50 was split into 51/52 when they went through a junction and changed direction (Northbound even, Southbound odd).? That Control Panel also logged the time from the Fast Clock into memory variables on a different Control Panel (for the Dispatcher's records) when a train originated, OS'd at a station, or terminated. So, with three panels displayed (a Layout Panel on the overhead big screen TV with a graphical representation of the layout, with occupancy colors on the track and memory variables displayed for the train in that section, a Control Panel with all trains listed and highlighted while active with memory variables for time stamps, and a Control Panel for the Station Operator with the trains listed and highlighted while active with buttons for "move to next" which would update the big screen and the Dispatcher panel).? Whew...so much talking...sorry.? But if anyone is interested, I could post that xml file in the files section (used with LocoNet Simulator). Anyway, I was happy that most of the name changes from the table renaming (user name only) feature actually worked as expected.? I did not know if what I found is unexpected or not, but personally, I was surprised that the name changes did not propagate throughout the Logix actions. Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA |
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Re: DecoderPro &ESU LokSound Factory reset
Frank,
On 8/1/19 7:26 PM, Frank in Houston wrote: First I go to NEW Locomotive and select ESU as decoder manufacturer ?I believe in most decoders they are (as far as the JMRI people knew when they wrote the definition). The exception - you guessed it - are sound decoders... (I definitely know that about LokSound and Digitrax sound decoders) That's because the default settings (and also the meaning) of some of the CVs depend on the sound scheme loaded on the decoder. What might be "steam chuff rate" on a steam sound scheme could be "turbo whine on/off" on an SD40-2 diesel scheme or "idle sound timeout" on a GP20 or not exist at all on an F7 scheme. Is this correct?? Should I do a READ of all CV's of this new locomotiveYes, do a "Read all CVs" on a new loco. And since there is a glitch in JMRI when doing "Read all sheets", please do "Read full sheet" on the "All CVs"-pane. There will probably still be some read errors, so repeat "Read changes on sheet" until there aren't any left. Hope this helps and good luck, Heiko -- eMails verschl¨¹sseln mit PGP - privacy is your right! Mein PGP-Key zur Verifizierung: |
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Phil, What problem are you trying to solve? Dynamically changing the name of a memory location is a big NO-NO in software. Something akin to pulling a rug out from under your own feet. You must have a reason for doing what you describe, but there must also be safer alternative methods available too. Cliff in Baja SoCal |
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DecoderPro &ESU LokSound Factory reset
Frank in Houston
I am trying to add a new Atlas GP-7 locomotive to my DecoderPro roster so I can set the decoder address and other things the way I want them.
First I go to NEW Locomotive and select ESU as decoder manufacturer ? Then I click on that and go thru the menu of decoders until I find "LokSound Select".. I select that and I have a new entry that I can use to program my new locomotive. QUESTION:? The CV's listed on this initial set up of CV's, in DecoderPro, are those values? the same as Factory Reset values? I placed my new locomotive on the programming track and attempted a COMPARE.? I found many instances where the CV entry in the decoder did not match the entry in the same CV in the DecoderPro software. Is this correct?? Should I do a READ of all CV's of this new locomotive first to make sure the CV values in the DecoderPro are the same as what is in the decoder before I make my changes? I assumed a new locomotive would have the same values in the CV's as what is called a factory reset in DecoderPro, am I doing something wrong? A lot of people have worked very hard to set all of this up, I do not want to mess anything up.? THANK YOU......Frank -- Have Fun....Frank.... |
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Using 4.16, if the user name of a memory variable is changed (renamed), in Logix, a copy memory to memory action is not fully updated with the new name.? The subject memory variable is updated, but the predicate (copied to) memory variable still has the old (now unused) user name.
For example, if I have memory variables "Two" and "Three", and have a Logix action defined to copy the contents of Two to Three, it works when triggered.? However, if I rename "Two" to "Too" and rename "Three" to "Third", the Logix action will be updated to [ On Change to True, Copy Memory to Memory, "Too" to Three ] (instead of Too to Third).? Of course when triggered, Logix fails because there is no memory variable "Three" anymore. Is this a known issue?? Should I put an issue on GitHub?? Thanks for any help or thoughts. Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA |
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Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat explains the problem. Would using Decoder lock ( cv15&16 ) prevent this?On 1 Aug 2019, at 23:18, David Klemm <davidklemm7511@...> wrote:
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