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When reading sheets, incorrect setting values are returned
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When I call up a known decoder and attempt to read
the setting values on any sheet, the value 123 is returned in all cases, with
the loco address as 15227!
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If I create a new loco, and then read the
individual sheets, they are read correctly, but as soon as I save the new loco,
and then recall the decoder and attempt to read it, the above
recurrs.
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I have had no issues with my setup before, but
today this is happening with any number of decoders.
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My setup is a Digitrax DCS100, Locobuffer II, and a
Powerpax.
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Any help will be appreciated,
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Robin Kerr
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Dispatcher Automatic running not reversing at end of section
Having resolved signalling problems, I have now set up Transits and tried to operate a train automatically.
Both in simulation and real situations, when the train (just a loco at this stage) arrives at the destination block it stops but fails to reverse (although the dispatcher active train status still shows "running"), however, if it is physically pushed back into the preceding Section (or the block occupancy sensor of the last block in the previous Section) is set manually in simulation mode), automatic running in reverse commences back to the starting block.? The train then auto forwards and repeats the outward trip but again stopping at the destination block until pushed to the preceding Section and so on.? I have used the DCC monitor to observe the loco commands which confirm this i.e. At the destination: a speed step 0 forward is issued but nothing else whereas at the starting block a speed step 0 reverse followed by speed step 0 forward followed by a speed step 7? forward is issued.
The Transit consists of four sections with direction sensors incorporated into the SML.? The panel has the direction displayed and it shows the sections being reversed.
I cannot work out why the train wont auto reverse at the ned of the outward trip - any ideas anyone?
Thanks in anticipation.
Peter
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Re: Having a problem loading panel pro
It would be useful to know which version of JMRI you are running now, I
suspect you just updated, so also the version you were running. The more
recent versions have tighter checking of the panel files. The results are
rejecting the load of a file to point to a problem instead of (many times)
silently not doing something during the load.
If you can post the file on the group site in the 'Problems being worked on'
we can see it and better suggest the right fixes.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Having a problem loading panel pro
Hi Everyone I'm getting a parse error when I?try loading panel pro?here is the
exception:org.jdom2.input.JDOMParseException: error on line 20933: cvc-minlenght-valid: value '1' with lenght = '1' is not facet-valid with respect to minlenght '2' for type 'systemNameType'.? I need some help to find this error? Thanks Phil
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I've been corresponding with Nancy at Soundtraxx, it looks like the
F45 does not have it's own set of default values, reused same
decoder as the SDP45.? I did not have any info for the SDP45 either,
she gave me one but it's for the older version with 1.5V bulbs, it's
CV 256 is 52.? Athearn's announcement pdf states the recent run of
F45 have LEDs.
All my Wow diesel V3 & V4 open from roster show the quill check
boxes on the sound tab, even those created last year.? V1 & V2
do not since that CV is not supported in those versions.
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/22/2018 12:57 AM, Richard Knight
wrote:
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Michael, I do not have the loco here. I forwarded your email to
the owner. We will try to get you that value. Did you see that
the quill choice appears (WOW V4) when reading a new locomotive
but when opening from the roster it does not appear? Also he had
a 12volt supply for the sprog and has ordered a more powerful
P.S.? I talked to Josh at Soundtraxx about you not having the CV
list for the F45.??? Rick.
On 8/21/2018 9:56 PM, Michael Mosher
wrote:
Can you tell me the value of CV 256 for the F45?
Thanks,
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/17/2018 12:53 AM, Richard
Knight wrote:
Michael, Thanks. As i mentioned this was an over the phone
"help" session that became complicated when we discovered
the definition for the F45 was not listed. We did pick a
loco with a similar prime mover but still ended up with an
unresponsive decoder. After a reset and a retry today at my
friends place I discovered the Sprog 2 he is using did not
seem to have enough power to program and read correctly the
TSU2. I use a Sprog 3 with upgraded power supply at home so
my results have been better. Found a similar situation at
the club with a 12 volt 125ma power supply? for the sprog
not being able to read write a QSI V7 decoder. Rick.
On 8/16/2018 5:58 PM, Michael
Mosher wrote:
The info has not been released by Soundtraxx yet for TSU2
equipped F45s.
They have info on Genesis locos here:
but the F45 not yet listed AND those files don't have
everything needed to create a decoder definition.? For
Tsunami2 and Econami decoders, JMRI needs the value of CV253
and 256 (read only values in the decoder); 253 is always 3
for Genesis & Athearn locos but 256 is unique for each
model and the definition need that number for the
identification routine to work.? I've been waiting for a few
months now to get info from Soundtraxx but with their trade
up program, new decoder models released and recent NMRA show
they've been busy.
Now you can use other Genesis TSU2 definitions, the default
values are not going to match what's in the loco so you'll
have to read everything before making changes.? Another
thing that might not match will be enumerated lists of sound
choices, but so far the Genesis lists have been fairly
consisted between models with same prime mover type, since
F45 has 645, pick one that also has 645 (like a GP40-2) and
probably the sound choices will be OK.
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/15/2018 3:45 PM, Richard
Knight wrote:
Hi, i am trying to help a friend, over the phone!, with
his Athearn Genesis F45 with TSU2. The basic problem is
this engine is not listed in the choices when reading the
loc with decoder pro. The F45 and FP45 are listed in the
TSU1 but some of the CV's have been changed with different
options in the TSU2. ?I was using GP38-2 as a stand in but
this became problematical also. Is there any chance that
the F45 could be added to the list? ?Thanks to Michael
Mosher I could get the new file on the WOWV3and 4 diesel,
download and install into the current version of decoder
pro. Thanks Again, Rick.
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Oops yes, you were correct about the build.
In any case, package build 2659 and later have the required updates to make this work. ?There was a subtle bug that took me a while to find.
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On Aug 21, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Moreno Mazzini < moreno.mazzini@...> wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 06:31 PM, Paul Bender wrote:
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Paul Bender wrote:
Moreno,Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.
Paul
Sorry Paul, I tested last build/package available #2655, and now single CV programmer is ok for me, but I have error 306 again if I write a CV in a panel of a decoder definition.
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Just looking at this again, 2696 is the latest build available at
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You may need to refresh the page to see it. ?2655 definitely does not have the most recent fix.
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Paul
Excuse me Paul, I have package 2655 (at I see the lastest build is 2696, but at I see the latest package is 2655). Seems to me that are the same (build 2696 and package 2655). Both include your commit Commit by
better interpretation of the loconet messages received.
Sorry, I use wrong word. I confirm I have 306 error when I write a CV in POM in a panel of a decoder definition. Moreno
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Re: Full timetable automation - AutoDispatcher 2 - abstraction - documentation - scripting
There are, of course, lots of different possible approaches to achieving timetabled operation: some of them more flexible (and requiring more coding work to set them up) and some of them more limited (requiring less coding work to set them up). I believe that I have defined earlier in the thread what I consider to be an ideal system within the bounds of what can realistically be achieved if those who are inclined to do this sort of work are inclined to spend sufficient time doing so. Whether they are, of course, is another matter entirely, and no criticism is intended if they are not: this is, as Bob pointed out, a hobby for all concerned.
There is much to be said, however, for the view that, if one is proposing to spend a considerable effort coding a new feature, it is optimum to assess the requirements for that feature carefully before one starts and plan how those requirements can best be implemented, as doing so can make the overall amount of time spent fulfilling those requirements in the long term rather less than if one implements a system that fulfils some but not all requirements, but which cannot easily be expanded to fulfil other, closely related requirements.
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Michael, I do not have the loco here. I forwarded your email to
the owner. We will try to get you that value. Did you see that the
quill choice appears (WOW V4) when reading a new locomotive but
when opening from the roster it does not appear? Also he had a
12volt supply for the sprog and has ordered a more powerful P.S.?
I talked to Josh at Soundtraxx about you not having the CV list
for the F45.??? Rick.
On 8/21/2018 9:56 PM, Michael Mosher
wrote:
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Can you tell me the value of CV 256 for the F45?
Thanks,
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/17/2018 12:53 AM, Richard Knight
wrote:
Michael, Thanks. As i mentioned this was an over the phone
"help" session that became complicated when we discovered the
definition for the F45 was not listed. We did pick a loco with
a similar prime mover but still ended up with an unresponsive
decoder. After a reset and a retry today at my friends place I
discovered the Sprog 2 he is using did not seem to have enough
power to program and read correctly the TSU2. I use a Sprog 3
with upgraded power supply at home so my results have been
better. Found a similar situation at the club with a 12 volt
125ma power supply? for the sprog not being able to read write
a QSI V7 decoder. Rick.
On 8/16/2018 5:58 PM, Michael
Mosher wrote:
The info has not been released by Soundtraxx yet for TSU2
equipped F45s.
They have info on Genesis locos here:
but the F45 not yet listed AND those files don't have
everything needed to create a decoder definition.? For
Tsunami2 and Econami decoders, JMRI needs the value of CV253
and 256 (read only values in the decoder); 253 is always 3 for
Genesis & Athearn locos but 256 is unique for each model
and the definition need that number for the identification
routine to work.? I've been waiting for a few months now to
get info from Soundtraxx but with their trade up program, new
decoder models released and recent NMRA show they've been
busy.
Now you can use other Genesis TSU2 definitions, the default
values are not going to match what's in the loco so you'll
have to read everything before making changes.? Another thing
that might not match will be enumerated lists of sound
choices, but so far the Genesis lists have been fairly
consisted between models with same prime mover type, since F45
has 645, pick one that also has 645 (like a GP40-2) and
probably the sound choices will be OK.
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/15/2018 3:45 PM, Richard
Knight wrote:
Hi, i am trying to help a friend, over the phone!, with his
Athearn Genesis F45 with TSU2. The basic problem is this
engine is not listed in the choices when reading the loc
with decoder pro. The F45 and FP45 are listed in the TSU1
but some of the CV's have been changed with different
options in the TSU2. ?I was using GP38-2 as a stand in but
this became problematical also. Is there any chance that the
F45 could be added to the list? ?Thanks to Michael Mosher I
could get the new file on the WOWV3and 4 diesel, download
and install into the current version of decoder pro. Thanks
Again, Rick.
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Re: Econami function pane
Is it possible when I downloaded this version I didn't get all of the program?? Steve
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Re: Econami function pane
I'm using the first one on the list econami diesel ECO-21 pin.? This was selected by JMRI when it read the decoder.? I noticed the UK version looks fine.? ?Steve
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Re: Econami function pane
Which Econami definition are you using. I took a look at "ECO-21P Diesel" and it looked fine.?
The New England Convention 2018
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On 22 Aug 2018, at 12:48 PM, Steve Teter via Groups.Io < s_teter@...> wrote: I was programing an early econami 21 pin decoder today and noticed there was no legacy function pane and the regular function pane seemed to be incomplete.? Am I missing something?? I'm using 4.13.2 on a windows 7 machine.? ? Steve Teter??
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There's only one Roster File for each decoder and programming changes should be saved to that.
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On 22 Aug 2018, at 8:07 AM, paxton58@... wrote: When I update CVs with the programming file and save the updates to the roster, they are not saved to the roster file in the JMRI file.?? Are there two different roster files and how do I update the correct roster?
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I was programing an early econami 21 pin decoder today and noticed there was no legacy function pane and the regular function pane seemed to be incomplete.? Am I missing something?? I'm using 4.13.2 on a windows 7 machine.? ? Steve Teter??
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Re: Remote Access of Locations Window
Thanks for those suggestions, Steve.? I will explore some of those other options to see if they are viable.
You've aroused my curiosity though about finding someone willing and able to write the web apps.? Is there somewhere I could go to find the code used to rewrite the Trains window/list as a web app?? I'm willing, just not sure about the able part.? I am by no means a master programmer, but I've been "playing" with visual basic, javascript, html, etc. for years.? You can contact me off-list if that would be better to discuss this further.? If I saw an example, I would quickly know if I was in over my head or not.
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: Help to Automate my railroad.
In (most forms of) automated running, you can only control the position of the train to the size of the block. If you want to stop a train nicely at a signal, it’s hard if there’s a 10-foot block in front of the signal. It’s _much_ easier if there are smaller blocks, maybe a 1-foot one before the signal: When it goes occupied, you can slow the train to a stop. That’s just one example, of course, but in general finer location can make a lot of things simpler. Bob On Aug 21, 2018, at 1:59 PM, leo pesce <lpescester@...> wrote:
Why do blocks need to be longer that max train length? I am assuming all cars have resistors, otherwise yes, I see why blocks need to be like that. -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Re: Full timetable automation - AutoDispatcher 2 - abstraction - documentation - scripting
On Aug 21, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Andy Reichert <andy_r@...> wrote:
I'd be very doubtful about trying to adapt a large complex set of software, with lots of semi-autonomous actions, designed to operate one complex system definition, to a quite differently purposed and defined complex system. I'd anticipate a lot of unexpected surprises and unintended consequences. And yet, that’s what we do around here. Continually. Not particularly efficiently, sometimes having to backtrack, but often successfully. My career experience has favored understanding and defining the user/market requirements fully first, then designing a suitable functional architecture and matching implementation second. (hardware and software). But this is a hobby, not a career. And the costs of experimentation are much smaller. So I encourage people to just write a little bit of code and try it, for this timetable project or anything else. Start with implementing your own initial ideas, or following something somebody else has suggested, or even implement an approach from elsewhere. If you can build on it to something bigger, that’s great. If you find an problem that nobody had thought of and have to backtrack, well, that’s still valuable knowledge, and it’s still progress. Bob -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Re: Preferences are not saving under PR3 mode
Hi!
i got back to this tonight.
I verified that the PR4 is connected to the computer.
In the device manager I unplugged & replugged in the PR4 & watched disco & reconnect.
A new connection was made in Panel Pro to no avail.
The same issue still exists.
I did find out that the connection to the DCS240 was through the PR4.
I can't connect to it through USB.
There are USB issues with my computer.
Things were bad enough my computer crashed & had to do a reinstall.
A reinstall of JMRI & it still happens.
A thought just occurred to me, all my prefs are in my Dropbox folder.
Everything except for the base install.
I did that to keep from losing my loco's & pref's through each iteration of JMRI.
Could the issue be there??
Jay
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Can you tell me the value of CV 256 for the F45?
Thanks,
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/17/2018 12:53 AM, Richard Knight
wrote:
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Michael, Thanks. As i mentioned this was an over the phone
"help" session that became complicated when we discovered the
definition for the F45 was not listed. We did pick a loco with a
similar prime mover but still ended up with an unresponsive
decoder. After a reset and a retry today at my friends place I
discovered the Sprog 2 he is using did not seem to have enough
power to program and read correctly the TSU2. I use a Sprog 3
with upgraded power supply at home so my results have been
better. Found a similar situation at the club with a 12 volt
125ma power supply? for the sprog not being able to read write a
QSI V7 decoder. Rick.
On 8/16/2018 5:58 PM, Michael Mosher
wrote:
The info has not been released by Soundtraxx yet for TSU2
equipped F45s.
They have info on Genesis locos here:
but the F45 not yet listed AND those files don't have
everything needed to create a decoder definition.? For Tsunami2
and Econami decoders, JMRI needs the value of CV253 and 256
(read only values in the decoder); 253 is always 3 for Genesis
& Athearn locos but 256 is unique for each model and the
definition need that number for the identification routine to
work.? I've been waiting for a few months now to get info from
Soundtraxx but with their trade up program, new decoder models
released and recent NMRA show they've been busy.
Now you can use other Genesis TSU2 definitions, the default
values are not going to match what's in the loco so you'll have
to read everything before making changes.? Another thing that
might not match will be enumerated lists of sound choices, but
so far the Genesis lists have been fairly consisted between
models with same prime mover type, since F45 has 645, pick one
that also has 645 (like a GP40-2) and probably the sound choices
will be OK.
Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM
Member SFRH&MS
DCC Master PVSMR
On 8/15/2018 3:45 PM, Richard
Knight wrote:
Hi, i am trying to help a friend, over the phone!, with his
Athearn Genesis F45 with TSU2. The basic problem is this
engine is not listed in the choices when reading the loc with
decoder pro. The F45 and FP45 are listed in the TSU1 but some
of the CV's have been changed with different options in the
TSU2. ?I was using GP38-2 as a stand in but this became
problematical also. Is there any chance that the F45 could be
added to the list? ?Thanks to Michael Mosher I could get the
new file on the WOWV3and 4 diesel, download and install into
the current version of decoder pro. Thanks Again, Rick.
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Re: Programing BLI Paragon 3 decoders
This issue has been discussed? Look on the websight for all the comments
My opinion is jmri can only be used with the digitrax programming track by chance with paragon decoders. Sometimes it will identify the engine and most times it won’t. I am told that you need to boost the power used to read and write normal decoders to read and write sound decoders in general and paragon in particular. ?Sprog 3 and digitrax pm4 programmers were suggested.?
Try the following Run the engine, if new its address is 3. See the engine run. Put engine on programming track, open decoder pro, select new engine, select find - if it doesn’t find the decoder then select it yourself Open the programmer to basic page Enter a 4 digit address and select it Write changes on page. ?See error message telling you the engine didn’t respond Place engine on track and run it using 4 digit address. ?If it runs your good The company broadway limited which uses these decoders claim their decoders are good and can be programmed using the handheld doing one cv variable at a time
You may need to use a programmer with more power and an interface like jmri
I haven’t solved the problem for myself yet
Tony
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On Aug 21, 2018, at 7:47 PM, David dareese51 < dareese51@...> wrote: Bill When you put the loco on your programming track connected to JMRI are you clicking on new loco? If so make sure you choose either Diesel or Steam under Paragon 3 and not rolling thunder.? That is the only thing I can think to tell you.? I am sure others will have advice.
David
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:30 PM, Bill Knecht < wfknecht@...> wrote: I am having a problem programing paragon 3 decoders.? Has anyone found how to program them with JMRI? I am using JMRI ver 4.13.2 and
can't get any changes to enter into the decoders on the programing track.
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ADMIN: >>HOW TO ASK YOUR QUESTION<< - A general reminder for everyone
#admin
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HOW to ask your question
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One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This
isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE
numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac
computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to
get you any useful help.
When asking ANY question, you should >>>utilize a meaningful subject line<<< that indicates
the problem and include the following information in the body of the message:
+ If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen)
+ Has JMRI worked before on this computer?
+ JMRI version
+ Previous version if you just upgraded
+ Java version
+ Previous version if you just upgraded
+ Computer make and model
+ if you have just upgraded, from which version
+ Any other DCC devices in use
+ Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would
like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc.
Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more
information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you
accurate answers.
Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable!
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