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Locked Re: Yahoo JMRI : Issues with latest version 4.10

 

Hi Marc,
I don't have the PR3 installed nor as part of my setup.? What I have is shown below:
+ Computer make and model - HP Compaq 6220
+ Computer Operating System - Windows 7
+ JMRI version installed - 4.10
? + if you just upgraded, from which version - 4.9?(I think)
+ JAVA version installed - 1.8
+ Interface device (if any)
+ DCC system in use - Digitrax DCS50?
? ? ? (the specific model, not just the manufacturer)
+ Any other DCC devices in use - Soundtraxx PTB-100 / Locobuffer - USB 2.0
+ Com port in use (if any) - COM5??
+ Baud Rate settings (if known) N/A
Up until now, my system worked fine for 3+ years and I was able to turn?the?"ON"?or?"OFF"?button on?JMRI using myDCS50 power and throttle?connection (using the Loconet), which has a "power" on/off button.? But now when I go into JMRI, the On/Off screen?shows "Unknown", and I am not able to keep?"internal" off and "Loconet" on.?Also, when I?enter?"new loco" and put an existing Soundtraxx decoder on the program track,?it reads a whole different decoderthat is unknown to me.? It should read Soundtraxx instead.?
Any ideas??
John??
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From: Marc N Fourner <forfoum@...>
To: johnreesep@...
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Yahoo JMRI : Issues with latest version 4.10

John,

Seeing a report of an error where Loconet / Internal conflict without
the Digitrax PR3 present is surprising.? This Loconet versus Internal
is seen quite often when the Digitrax PR3 is selected as the interface,
and worse when selected as Standalone Programmer.

I am running JMRI 4.11.3 as well with both a Locobuffer-USB and the
Digitrax PR3 and the only time I encounter the Internal/Loconet mish-mash
is with the PR3.? One tell tale symptom? is a continually appearing
window that DEFAULTS are set wrong when we view Preferences.

So can you check your preferences and confirm the PR3 is not selected.

Marc N Fournier
Quebec




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Locked Re: JMRI Throttle Problems

 

Mike,

Please be VERY detailed in describing the problem you are experiencing. I find myself scratching my head trying to figure out what you mean by "this prevents me from being able to re-select the engine." I don't know what that means.

If you can describe a sequence of events with JMRI, using JMRI throttles but NOT using any "Wi" devices, which causes the failure, I can attempt to duplicate your problem with my hardware. I would need to know which command station you are using and how the OpSws are set.

Also, be aware that there's something else that comes into play, related directly to a "slot status" of "idle":

After some unpredictable amount of the time, when JMRI (or any LocoNet throttle) moves a slot's status to "common", the command station may (or may not) immediately or at some later time change the slot status to "idle". But the command station DOESN'T provide any information on LocoNet that allows "interested agents" to know that it has done so. So JMRI's "Slot Monitor" won't update when it happens!

JMRI attempts to "learn" this by occasionally "polling" (reading) each slot. But it can be something like 200 seconds before it polls a slot. So JMRI's "slot manager" tool can display incorrect information about individual slot status! JMRI's code makes a "best-effort" attempt to "make it right, eventually", but this is the best that can be achieved without specific information from the command station at the time that the change is made.

Regards,
Billybob

From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: [jmriusers] Re: JMRI Throttle Problems


Hi John & Billybob,

This morning I installed Version 4.11.3 over version 4.10 and experimented somewhat using the 'Slot Monitor' tool. This is what I found:
1. In effect, I found a 'work-around' as follows for both the JMRI throttle and the WiThrottle (iphone7): The first time I select an engine, the slot monitor goes to 'in-use' status and engine runs fine. If I use the 'Release' button, the status goes to 'Common', and I can re-select the engine successfully as the status returns to 'in-use'.
2. If I use the 'Dispatch' button, the status changes to 'idle' instead of 'Common'; this prevents me from being able to re-select the engine.
3. When using a Digitrax tethered UT4 or DT400 throttle, there is no 'Release' button and you must use the 'Dispatch' button which puts the status to 'Common' about 90% of the time, the 10% goes to 'idle'. ??

Conclusion: My thinking suggests that the software should always put the status to 'Common' regardless which button (Dispatch or Release) is used. FYI: When using the 4.10 version, I concentrated on using the 'Dispatch' button, not so much the Release button. I plan to experiment some more later this afternoon.

Thanks for your help!
Mike Lanyon


Locked Lockup of JMRI

 

I have beenhaving a problem with JMRI locking up during operating sessions.? A dispatcher panel using Panel Pro (version 4.10+R419243ewith version 1.8.0 for Java) is used to throw mainline switches and to keeptrack of train locations using manually activated sensors.? The track diagram is on an external monitorfor a laptop (Windows 10) that communicates at 9600 baud with an NCE DCC systemhaving the latest EPROM.? A typical scenariohas the OS starting at 1:15 pm, and about 45 min later the screen locks up andJMRI does not respond.? Usually, thereare 6 to 8 trains running.? I restart thelaptop and then JMRI to get back running and things work OK until the end ofthe OS at 5:00 pm.? I have copied below someof the lines from the file for the NCE Command Monitor.? These lines are for the times right beforeand after the lockup.? The last line is when I restarted JMRI.? Can you tell mehow to prevent JMRI from locking up??Thanks for your help.

Ted Smith

?

2018-03-07 13:56:57,708 ncemon.NceMonBinary? ?ERROR- Unhandled reply type code: 2 [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2018-03-07 13:56:58,132 ncemon.NceMonBinary? ERROR - Unhandled command code: 143[AWT-EventQueue-0]

2018-03-07 13:57:08,140 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN?- Timeout on reply to message: 8F EC 10 consecutive timeouts = 0 innce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]

2018-03-07 14:02:17,430 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]



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Locked Re: JMRI Throttle Problems

 

You may have hit a slots full issue, why stopepd at 15. Which command
station are you using?

you must make sure functions 0-8 are OFF when dispatching an engine to get
it completly dispatched out of a Digitrax command station


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, mike.lanyon@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



Hello Billybob & John,

I sent a reply at noon today, but don't see it, so I'm sending a new
update via 'add to the conversation'. Sorry, I'm new at this Yahoo Group
thing.

I installed version 4.11.3 as Billybob suggested and experimented quite a
bit with, I think, good results. Basically, I got the same results as John.
When using 'Release' instead of 'Dispatch' on the JMRI & WiThrottles, the
system runs fine. When 'Release' is used, the Status is set to 'Common';
when 'Dispatch' is used, the Status is set to 'Idle'. The JMRI &
WiThrottles appear NOT to be able to acquire an engine when the status is
set to 'Idle'.

Hopefully, this problem will get a little more attention in the next
release.

BTW, I see there are a lot of reports about 'turnout' problems. We have
not had any problems operating any turnouts with the Turnout Control or via
WiThrottle Server iphones.

Thanks again guys! GSV Train Club is back in business!

Mike Lanyon

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Locked Re: Logix vs Signal Mast Logic - help please.

 

You could also add the 'cross to wrong side' switch to all the signal mast
logic, so it musty be closed (normal running) for each check. if it's
thrown, things drop through to red


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:38 PM, John Williamson johnpw22@...
[jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:



Thanks Dave - that was something which had crossed my mind and then events
had moved in a different direction... that should do it nicely! Many thanks
for your help. John

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Locked Re: Turnouts in Engine Driver

 

Hi Steve, Thanks for your help, that was my problem I still had one section in the transit in the reverse direction. It was until you said to check that all directions go the same way and then saw the directions listed in the transits that I fully understood. Now all I have to do is to reset the signals. I am still trying to get my head around that topic. Any way I do appreciate your response.

Paul


Locked Re: Upgrading JMRI from 4.10 to 4.11.3 caused major issue

 

OK, sorry I was not aware of that.
The Version upgrading of the JMRI error message is:

Error Opening file for writing:
C:&#92;program files (x86)&#92;JMRI&#92;LaunchJMRI.exe


The error message in the TRAIN build is:

Unrecoverable error encountered:
This application will quit.

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
com.faster.xml.jackson.databind.node.Objectnode.set(Ljava/Lang/string;Lcom/fasterxml/jackson/databind/JsonNode;)
Lcom/fasterxml/jackson/databind/JsonNode:

at
jmri.jmrit.operations.trains.JsonManifest.getLocations(JsonManifest.java:101)
at jmri.jmrit.operations.trains.JsonManifest.build (JsonManifest.java:66)
at jmri.jmrit.operations.trains.TrainBuilder.build(TrainBuilder.java:329)
at jmri.jmrit.operations.trains.TrainBuilder.build(TrainBuilder.java:110)
at jmri.jmrit.operations.trains.Train.build(Train.java:2914)
at jmri.jmrit.operations.trains.Trains.Table$3.run(TrainsTable.java:402)
at java.lang.Thread.run(UnknownSource)

*Duncan *

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:15 AM, ulvestad@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



This group does not allow attachments. You will have to tell us what the
error messages were.


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Locked AC Powercontrol Script port number

 

Has anyone used the AC_Powercontrol.py script in the jython folder?


I have a Smart socket that I'd like to use to control power to the entire layout (command station, etc). I can currently control the smart socket via Amazon Echo but I'd like to control it via a JMRI panel button or sensor. the script seems tailor made to do that. The script needs the ip address and port number of the smart socket. I know the ip address of the smart socket but have no idea how to find the port number. Anyone have any ideas?


Locked Re: Error when trying to build any Train

 

What error message?

On Mar 8, 2018 14:16, "Duncan Cabassi cabass50@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



I've just upgraded to the latest version of JMRI 4.11.3+R80b3ab3
Now when I'm in Operations and I try to build any TRAIN I get the following
error message and then Panel Pro shuts down when I acknowledge the message:

*Duncan *

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Locked Re: Upgrading JMRI from 4.10 to 4.11.3 caused major issue

 

This group does not allow attachments. You will have to tell us what the error messages were.


Locked Upgrading JMRI from 4.10 to 4.11.3 caused major issue

 

Yesterday i decided to upgrade from JMRI 4.10 to 4.11.3.

I downloaded the files and loaded the program onto my computer. Initially I
believe the program loaded but when I went to "BUILD" a train in the
Operations section I got the below pop up during the build process. The
build failed and the program shuts down:


I tried this several times and got the same results each time.

I then attempted to reload 4.11.3 and during the loading of the JMRI files
I got the following message:



I hit retry but it would not work so i hit ignore and the rest of the data
is transferred. I opened JMRI and tried to build a train and still got the
unrecoverable error message again.

Next I decided to reload 4.10 as it had been working on my system OK. Now
during the loading of the 4.10 files I'm getting the same error as per
4:11.3 file



Can anybody help me resolve this issue?

*Duncan Cabassi*


Locked Re: Logix vs Signal Mast Logic - help please.

 

Thanks Dave - that was something which had crossed my mind and then events
had moved in a different direction... that should do it nicely! Many thanks
for your help. John


Locked Re: Logix vs Signal Mast Logic - help please.

 

John,

If I understand what your are doing, here is how I would do it.

1) Create a virtual mast.
2) Attach it to a block boundary on the ¡°wrong direction¡± track. Set it to hide when not editing.
3) Set up signal mast logic to include the new mast as a possible destination.

Discovery might work. If not, you will need to manually add the blocks and turnouts to the signal mast logic definition.


Dave Sand

On Mar 8, 2018, at 4:11 PM, johnpw22@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

I am attempting to use some logix for a situation where a route diverges through several turnouts including two crossovers, effectively sending the train onto the oposite running line for reverse working - I am not relying on paths and am not using discover.


I can set up mast logic to look to the next masts ok, but due to a double track layout plan, with each direction having masts, but only for that direction, I was going to use Logix to set the mast aspects approaching these junctions to a yellow if the turnout is set. The problem is that if I leave in the working Signal Mast Logic looking to the next mast along the track for the continuing route, this messes with my Logix, making me think I have to remove the Signal Mast Logic and use pure Logix in these situations, which is much more complex to accomplish.


I hope that is clear... basically, I thought Logix would override an aspect - force an aspect - given the right triggers... but Mast Logic seems stronger?! May have been wishful thinking?


Is this something I have to live with or is there a simple work around?


Thanks.
John, Bristol.


Locked Error when trying to build any Train

 

I've just upgraded to the latest version of JMRI 4.11.3+R80b3ab3
Now when I'm in Operations and I try to build any TRAIN I get the following
error message and then Panel Pro shuts down when I acknowledge the message:


*Duncan *


Locked Logix vs Signal Mast Logic - help please.

 

I am attempting to use some logix for a situation where a route diverges through several turnouts including two crossovers, effectively sending the train onto the oposite running line for reverse working - I am not relying on paths and am not using discover.


I can set up mast logic to look to the next masts ok, but due to a double track layout plan, with each direction having masts, but only for that direction, I was going to use Logix to set the mast aspects approaching these junctions to a yellow if the turnout is set. The problem is that if I leave in the working Signal Mast Logic looking to the next mast along the track for the continuing route, this messes with my Logix, making me think I have to remove the Signal Mast Logic and use pure Logix in these situations, which is much more complex to accomplish.


I hope that is clear... basically, I thought Logix would override an aspect - force an aspect - given the right triggers... but Mast Logic seems stronger?! May have been wishful thinking?


Is this something I have to live with or is there a simple work around?


Thanks.
John, Bristol.


Locked Re: Fw: Subject: Issues with latest version 4.10

 

John

When using the Tsunami 2 or Econami - remove the PTB100.

Gerry


On 8/03/2018 5:36 PM, John Parrish johnreesep@... [jmriusers] wrote:



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John Parrish <[email protected]>
To: "JMRIusers@..." <JMRIusers@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:21 PM
Subject: Subject: Issues with latest version 4.10

Hello,
I'm having some difficulties after recently upgrading to 4.10 just
after the new year.
+ Computer make and model - HP Compaq 6220
+ Computer Operating System - Windows 7
+ JMRI version installed - 4.10
? + if you just upgraded, from which version - 4.9?(I think)
+ JAVA version installed - 1.8
+ Interface device (if any)
+ DCC system in use - Digitrax DCS50
? ? ? (the specific model, not just the manufacturer)
+ Any other DCC devices in use - Soundtraxx PTB-100 / Locobuffer - USB 2.0
+ Com port in use (if any) - COM5
+ Baud Rate settings (if known)
+ Specific details of your difficulty, including error messages if any.
?I am suddenly having issues with:
- Trying to read correct CV's and change CV's using my JMRI and power
system (have been doing this successfully for 3 years now).
- Could not?change sound levels or type of sound on?a new
Soundtraxx?Sound Car decoder.? I use Programming Track.
- I noticed that the ON/OFF light on the JMRI screen showed "Unknown",
and when I tried to change it,
?????????to "On" (green) or "Off (red) using my "power" on/off button
on my throttle as it has always done in the past, it did not take it.?
The light did not change ???????? and "Unknown" was still
illuminated.??I had to move the curser to the box and then click to
get ON or OFF.
- When I put a Soundtraxx decoder on the track and went to "Read New
Loco", it read some other decoder that I had never heard of:? Massoth
Elektronik, Gmbh???
- The Loconet "box" keeps popping up everytime I go into JMRI.? I have
saved it each time, but it comes up again and keeps asking if I want
to save it or deleate it.

I have been reading some group remarks today about issues with the
4.10, yes?? Should I go to the next level...4.11, or?do I need to
revert to an earlier version than 4.10?
Your assistance is most appreciated.
John



--
Gerry Hopkins MMR #177 FNMRA
Great Northern Downunder




NMRA Australasian Region
Contest & AP Chairman
Web Administrator


Locked Re: JMRI Throttle Problems

 

Hello Billybob & John,

I sent a reply at noon today, but don't see it, so I'm sending a new update via 'add to the conversation'. Sorry, I'm new at this Yahoo Group thing.

I installed version 4.11.3 as Billybob suggested and experimented quite a bit with, I think, good results. Basically, I got the same results as John. When using 'Release' instead of 'Dispatch' on the JMRI & WiThrottles, the system runs fine. When 'Release' is used, the Status is set to 'Common'; when 'Dispatch' is used, the Status is set to 'Idle'. The JMRI & WiThrottles appear NOT to be able to acquire an engine when the status is set to 'Idle'.

Hopefully, this problem will get a little more attention in the next release.

BTW, I see there are a lot of reports about 'turnout' problems. We have not had any problems operating any turnouts with the Turnout Control or via WiThrottle Server iphones.

Thanks again guys! GSV Train Club is back in business!

Mike Lanyon


Locked Re: JMRI and NEW APPLE Computer

Jim Albanowski
 

Randall:

Which LocoBuffer? I have the older LB-USB and the FTDI drivers install for a serial device.

Needed to do Google RR=Cirkits USB drivers... drivers for 10.4 (Intel) and higher.

Reports cu.usbserial-FT00U9BU

Jim Albanowski

<snip>


Locked Re: Turnouts in Engine Driver

 

Jay,

As Steve Todd has stated earlier, use a leading zero in your turnout numbers below #10 if you have less than 100. E.g., IT01, IT02..., IT09

Ken Ninomiya
Oxnard, CA
<jmriusers@...<mailto:jmriusers@...>> wrote:

Re: Turnouts in Engine Driver <;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZXRwcnMzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzY2MDI3NTgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzNTc2BG1zZ0lkAzE0NzE4NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxNTIwNTM0Mzkw>
Thu Mar 8, 2018 8:50 am (PST) . Posted by:
jayfmn <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Turnouts%20in%20Engine%20Driver>
Hi, Mine are named IT1, IT2, IT3,.....
I have the same issue as Kenny!
Jay
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Locked Re: Fw: Subject: Issues with latest version 4.10

 

You need to explain this box in more detail and tell us exactly what it says. It is quite likely indicating a problem that is preventing you from setting the defaults correctly. The exact wording is important.
--
Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

On 8 Mar 2018, at 5:36 PM, John Parrish johnreesep@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

- The Loconet "box" keeps popping up everytime I go into JMRI. I have saved it each time, but it comes up again and keeps asking if I want to save it or deleate it.