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Richard,



Well the log shows things starting up, but then silently dying. No errors
showing, no 'normal exit' type message either. So some form of real crash is
happening. I'm hoping somebody else might recognize what other ideas might
cause this sort of behavior.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Don,



Generally building the tables of the parts (turnouts, sensor, signals) is a
good method when you have the hardware first. This lets you quickly test all
the parts to make sure things work. Then you build the panels to control the
layout.



But sometimes you don't have the hardware first, but you do have the layout.
So you build the panels but create 'Internal' and 'Virtual' devices for
everything. Key here is setting usernames for all the parts. When building
the panels and logic, always enter things by the username. Then later you
add the real hardware and use the 'move' command to shift the username from
the non-real device to the real hardware. This method lets you figure out
just how much hardware you need.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

It's actually pretty simple:

The PR3 has two modes of operation - One is "talk to the LocoNet" (MS100) mode, and the other is "use my (the PR3's) programming outputs" (Stand-alone Programming) mode. It can only be in one of those modes at any given time.

Due to the differing nature of those two modes, there are also two rather basic sets of connection requirements: If you want it to program decoders. you have to provide the correct DC power (the PR3 comes with a wall-wart) and connect it's programming outputs to a programming track. And if you want to talk to the LocoNet, you have to connect it to, well, the LocoNet.

To put it in the mode you want, you simply push the "Mode" button. The LED's on the device indicate which mode you're in. The PR3's instructions have a table describing the various LED colors/flashes/etc, so I won't repeat that here.

But there's an easier way to set the mode: Set up your JMRI profile(s) correctly for your intended use!

For example, my DecoderPro profile puts my PR3 in Stand-alone Programming mode, and my PanelPro profile puts it in LocoNet (MS100) mode.

Bottom line; Since you are getting a 306, your computer and the PR3 aren't talking to each other. Check that your physical connections and your JMRI profile are set correctly for the PR3 mode you intend to use, and that the proper DC power is applied if you are using Stand-alone Programming Mode.

More info here: <>

HTH,
Steve (A Happy PR3 user for many years)

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I have never been able to make complete sense out of the Digitrax instructions on "correct mode".

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I have never been able to make complete sense out of the Digitrax instructions on "correct mode".

I just might try that. I have had my issues with Digitrax stuff over the years.

George - if you’re only interested in the programming and now worried about using the interface to a layout, then I recommend the SprogII. I've had one for several years and I have a MacBook Pro (2012) running 10.12.6PB5 and JMRI 4.7.6.

I've had no issues programming any decoder (yet) including Paragon 3, Soundtraxx Tsunami 1 and 2. While I have a WOW, the engine it’s in needs mechanical love before I try to program it.

Fred D.

Personally I prefer using my Sprog 3 to my PR3. ?It works every time. ?Just my take on things.
David Reese

George,

Likely your PR3 is not in the correct mode. 99% of the time that is what I find when mine doesn't work. Nothing to do with JMRI or the PC.

David Klemm
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To those of you who responded, Thanks
But I have finally given up on getting this thing to work. Two days is my limit.
JMRI/DecoderPro has been great since 2006 but I am open to maybe a different interface for my programming track and MACBook Pro than the PR3...any ideas?
Still using OS10.12.5 and a PR3. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Right now it doesn't.
All I get is (306). Off-line contact is OK (traxx@...)
George Huckaby, Custom Traxx

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Ah, thanks Dave! I will look into this. Sounds good to me. Jerry

To those of you who responded, Thanks
But I have finally given up on getting this thing to work. Two days is my limit.
JMRI/DecoderPro has been great since 2006 but I am open to maybe a different interface for my programming track and MACBook Pro than the PR3...any ideas?
Still using OS10.12.5 and a PR3. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Right now it doesn't.
All I get is (306). Off-line contact is OK (traxx@...)
George Huckaby, Custom Traxx

Hi to the group
I had an oops a week or so ago with my computer that JMRI and all my train files are on. I have got most of them back but have lost my data files for my layout. The only good thing is I have some paper copies of most of the tables.
Before I just blase ahead and recreate the same mess as I had before can I get some guidance as to the correct order of creating everything.. That is do I recreate all the tables first, then the layout drawing etc etc.
Thanks in advance
Don CB
In sunny downtown far west Victoria, Australia.

I tried a few things ...


1. First, I deleted everything from the "messages" log
2. I copied all my profiles to the C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI directory (I use several)
3. I started Decoder Pro
4. I saw the WiThrottle Server window
5. I briefly saw the DP roster window
6. Then everything went blank


Here is the "messages" log file ...


2017-07-01 16:51:59,240 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2017-07-01 16:51:59,255 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92;log&#92;messages.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:51:59,271 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92;log&#92;session.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:51:59,271 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.7.6+R570b2bc starts under Java 1.8.0_131 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Sat Jul 01 16:51:59 PDT 2017 [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:02,459 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile Basic_Profile.3e4fcecc [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:02,584 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-2C27D7392861-3e4fcecc as the JMRI Node identity [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:03,240 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter INFO - COM3 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true CD: false [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:04,084 server.WebServer INFO - Starting Web Server on port 12080 [WebServer]
2017-07-01 16:52:04,130 server.WebServer INFO - Starting ZeroConfService _http._tcp.local for Web Server with properties {path=/, json=4.0} [WebServer]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is C:&#92;Program Files (x86)&#92;JMRI&#92; [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92;Basic_Profile&#92; [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92;Basic_Profile&#92; [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92; [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92; [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is C:&#92;Program Files (x86)&#92;JMRI&#92;jython&#92; [main]


Thanks for all the great help from the group ... Richard

Here is the "session" log file from the last attempt to start JMRI ...


2017-07-01 16:42:57,564 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2017-07-01 16:42:57,580 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92;log&#92;messages.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:42:57,580 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI&#92;log&#92;session.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:42:57,580 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.7.6+R570b2bc starts under Java 1.8.0_131 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Sat Jul 01 16:42:57 PDT 2017 [main]



I also tried Roberto's idea, but there were no "jogamp" services running.


Thanks for the help ...

Ah, so in theory I could use my MRC system to simply control trains and have other systems hooked up to the PC directly to control things like turnouts and signals. For some reason I thought everything on the layout had to go through the MRC system. Does everything communicate through the same bus wires that provides power to the track or some other system?

My goal is to have mainline switches and signals controlled from a computer, dispatcher CTC style, the DCC system itself only needs to control locomotives. Although being able to program decoders through JMRI decoder pro would be nice too.

First thing to do is go to Preferences->Roster->Programmer and set Format to Advanced and "Show Empty Programmer Tabs" off (unchecked).

It appears the Rolling Thunder definition only programs the Rolling Thunder upgrade part of the decoder. You will need to use the BLI Paragon Steam definitions to program the rest of the loco CVs.
--
Dave in Australia

/On 7/1/2017 2:03 PM, Gerald Michels gjmichels53@... [jmriusers]
wrote://
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/Is this normal for Rolling Thunder 2? Where is "elsewhere?" Using JMRI
ver. 4.6/

Rolling thunder is in Paragon 3 (P3) engines. The C&O L1 is a P3
engine. In JMRI you should be using the Paragon 3 tab. I'm not sure
what version 4.6 looks like but would suggest you up grade to 4.7.6. As
my only P3 engines are packed for travel I'm also not sure what the
additional "rolling thunder" tab is used for.

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Hi Jerry,
I have the same problem with the Rolling Thunder - I cannot find this at all in JMRI/DecoderPro with a Sprog.
From reading elsewhere it appears that you have to have a BLI system to access this.

This seems to confirm that the full effects are only available when using the BLI system
ThanksPhil H?Got a specific interest?
Model Scottish Railways? -
and the new files section -
Modelrail Exhibition - Glasgow? - www.modelrail-scotland.co.uk
Interested in DCC operation? -
Interested in Proto87 -
Interested in Guilford/PanAm Railroads? -?

From: "Gerald Michels gjmichels53@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017, 22:03
Subject: [jmriusers] Rolling Thunder 2 JMRI programming

I recently bought a Broadway Limited C&O L1, streamlined Hudson.? When I
try to use JMRI to program the locomotive, all of the pages in the
programmer(like speed tables, sound, lights, etc.), except the CV page,
state that no changes can be made from the respective page, but are found
elsewhere? Is this normal for Rolling Thunder 2? Where is "elsewhere?"

Using JMRI ver. 4.6

Thanks.

Jerry Michels


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I recently bought a Broadway Limited C&O L1, streamlined Hudson. When I
try to use JMRI to program the locomotive, all of the pages in the
programmer(like speed tables, sound, lights, etc.), except the CV page,
state that no changes can be made from the respective page, but are found
elsewhere Is this normal for Rolling Thunder 2? Where is "elsewhere?"

Using JMRI ver. 4.6

Thanks.

Jerry Michels

Oliver, In order to help, what type of connection(s) have you configured? What's your OS?
Have you set the editor to Turnouts and the intended connection?
Do you see the items State changing in the Turnout Table when you click its symbol on the Switchboard?


Egbert

Bob:

The Mac is in the "computer room" in there as well is my DCC++ experiment...

Yes that's good, High Sierra see the Arduino (Mega32) as as "cu.usbmodem"...

More as ambition and time allows.

Jim