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Re: Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues

 

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Thanks, this help. Programming going well. Still have issue with smoke unit.

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Joe

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ross Kudlick via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2025 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues

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Joe,

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I use POM for programming all Paragon decoders.? I find them ‘problematic’ on a service mode programming track.

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Paragon 4 (and the later Paragon 3) decoders have CV217 that can be adjusted to match them to your programming track.? Here’s a ‘Hosteler’s Inn” article on the process:

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I found the CV217 adjustment process required too much fiddling.? Ops Mode works every time.? BLI often recommended Ops Mode for Paragon 2 and Paragon 3 (before CV217 was added).

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HTH,

Ross

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JOSEPH SILVA via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2025 11:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues

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I am trying to program an BLI engine I had upgraded to Paragon4. Sometime I program a section and it work fine and sometime I get 308 errors. Also I program one section and another section changes. Also the smoke unit works when F7 off and goes off when F7 on. I going to reload the DCC+ software but I do not believe that will help since I tried other locomotive and everything works. Any suggestions.

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Joe

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Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions

 

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Dear Steve

Some of my engines run extremely slow in automation ?and run faster with throttle control. ?My speed in the block table is maximum and my speed in create train is 200% maximum.

Where else is speed during automation controlled?

Also i noticed the last table in the list of tables was something like warrants but it’s no longer there. ?Why was that page eliminated and if it was warrents where are the warrents settings now

Tony



On Apr 8, 2025, at 10:10?PM, Steve_G via groups.io <RailRodder22@...> wrote:

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Tony
What you describe sounds like you are using "head only". Try loco by itself with the correct length and "full trian" detection.
Steve G.
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Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions

 

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Dear Steve
I retried again today and automation worked.
Hope my repaired bxp’s do not have an intermittent problem.
The default when openning a create train is head only so yes the 3 allocations occurred using head only.

Does that mean head only automation doesn’t work?

I noticed when i shut track power the layout panel hold the correct allocation and occupation information.
In the past when i shut power blocks not occupied would go occupied. Was that a change?

I did not test the 3 allocations using only one train yet

Tony



On Apr 8, 2025, at 10:10?PM, Steve_G via groups.io <RailRodder22@...> wrote:

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Tony
What you describe sounds like you are using "head only". Try loco by itself with the correct length and "full trian" detection.
Steve G.
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Re: Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues

 

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Joe,

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I use POM for programming all Paragon decoders.? I find them ‘problematic’ on a service mode programming track.

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Paragon 4 (and the later Paragon 3) decoders have CV217 that can be adjusted to match them to your programming track.? Here’s a ‘Hosteler’s Inn” article on the process:

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I found the CV217 adjustment process required too much fiddling.? Ops Mode works every time.? BLI often recommended Ops Mode for Paragon 2 and Paragon 3 (before CV217 was added).

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HTH,

Ross

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JOSEPH SILVA via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2025 11:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues

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I am trying to program an BLI engine I had upgraded to Paragon4. Sometime I program a section and it work fine and sometime I get 308 errors. Also I program one section and another section changes. Also the smoke unit works when F7 off and goes off when F7 on. I going to reload the DCC+ software but I do not believe that will help since I tried other locomotive and everything works. Any suggestions.

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Joe

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Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues

 

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I am trying to program an BLI engine I had upgraded to Paragon4. Sometime I program a section and it work fine and sometime I get 308 errors. Also I program one section and another section changes. Also the smoke unit works when F7 off and goes off when F7 on. I going to reload the DCC+ software but I do not believe that will help since I tried other locomotive and everything works. Any suggestions.

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Joe

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Re: PanelPro problem #layouteditor

 

If you are not using a mouse, how do you move a cursor?

Note: A touch pad / track pad is the same as a mouse.

Dave Sand


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From: "Richard Wittwer via groups.io" <wrick4=[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] PanelPro problem
Date: Tuesday, April 08, 2025 11:31 AM

I am not using a mouse. I'm only using the keyboard.?
Re: Help With crossover

 

Brett,

Your configuration looks correct.

While it is possible to specify up to four blocks, the normal process is to use one block for the first two entries and one for the other two entries.

Sometimes, for historical reasons it is not possible to treat the crossover as having only two blocks.

Dave Sand



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From: "redsash63 via groups.io" <redsash63=[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Help With crossover
Date: Thursday, April 10, 2025 4:12 AM

Hi Members
Could someone please help me out with A Single crossover and JMRi
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First things first.
Please take a look at this photo of the Crossover
I presumed that one turnout has one Block so A Crossover just needs 2.
Is that correct?
Each end of the 4 crossover ends i have isolated,Power is feed to the small joins attached to the(each side) crossover(2) to make 2 blocks with sensors
Is that correct?
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My problem comes when i choose single LH Crossover in JMRI then when i go to set masts it ask for 4 Blocks,but i only have 2
Can someone explain the Four please?
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Appreciate your time
regards Brett
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PS.DCC Kato Crossover.
Re: Have a question about having a train pick up a specific car #operationspro

 

I do this successfully using Schedules for the station spur. ?There are games you can play using the schedules, custom loads, and car owner field.
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Jon in San Rafael
Re: Arrival Track & Switcher #operationspro

 

The program will only show hold cars for tracks that are serviced by only one train.? The local counts as one of the two trains.
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Dan
Re: Arrival Track & Switcher #operationspro

 

On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 07:50 AM, Doug wrote:
What puzzles me is that those 8 cars were not shown as "hold" on the csvmanifest.
What does the cvsSwitchlists show?
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Dan
Arrival Track & Switcher #operationspro

 

Set up my class yard Arrival track as a "Location".? It's length accommodates the longest trains I run.
Set up Switcher (train) to PU at Location "Arrival" and SO at yard Location.
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When I tested, had a 30 car train arrive. The manifest showed all 30 cars set out at Arrival.
Ran train "Switcher".? It only picked up 22 of the 30 cars.
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Viewing the build report 8 cars were excluded as class track for those 8 cars was full.
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What puzzles me is that those 8 cars were not shown as "hold" on the csvmanifest.
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Any ideas?
Doug
Help With crossover

 

Hi Members
Could someone please help me out with A Single crossover and JMRi
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First things first.
Please take a look at this photo of the Crossover
I presumed that one turnout has one Block so A Crossover just needs 2.
Is that correct?
Each end of the 4 crossover ends i have isolated,Power is feed to the small joins attached to the(each side) crossover(2) to make 2 blocks with sensors
Is that correct?
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My problem comes when i choose single LH Crossover in JMRI then when i go to set masts it ask for 4 Blocks,but i only have 2
Can someone explain the Four please?
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Appreciate your time
regards Brett
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PS.DCC Kato Crossover.
Re: Train creeps into turnout collision

 

Nags
Dispatcher, when using speed profiles for stopping, does not use train length.
Steve G.
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Re: Train creeps into turnout collision

 

On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 10:33 PM, stevemac wrote:
has to totally be in a block before coming to a stop
Thanks for the insight. I wish I knew this before setting up blocks. I thought train would halt if "held" irregardless of length.
That's the main reason I went with warrants, as train length is not used. Its methodology works on where the front of the train is and the speed of the train. It calculates from when a train enters blocks and the distance to where it needs to slow or stop the train.
Whilst that doesn't guarantee it will stop precisely, it does monitor throttle settings and speed for dynamic speed profiling.
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Re: DecoderPro no loco roster #roster

 

Peter,
I did exactly what you called out for in Decoder Pro and I got back my roster. Thanks so much. Now my Operations Pro has lost my railroad and it was removed from the main menu. Any advice on how to get it back now. I was there until I fixed the decoder pro roster.?
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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Have a question about having a train pick up a specific car #operationspro

 

Evening,
I am creating a set of passenger trains (A westbound and an eastbound counterpart).? I want it to leave its departure station and then at another station while making a scheduled passenger stop. I would also like to have the train set out an express car and then pick up a diner to add to the train. before departing on its way west.
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Then on the eastbound trip at this same station stop have the train set out the diner and pick up any head express cars. Then after this work is completed, the train would continue Eastbound to it's destination terminal.
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I would like to have this do this each time I run the train.
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Re: DecoderPro no loco roster #roster

 

You need to recreate the roster index.
In PanelPro, click on Debug in the top menu followed by 'Rebuild Roster'
or in DecoderPro, click on Actions in top menu followed by 'recreate Roster Index'.

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DecoderPro no loco roster #roster

 

I don't know were to begin with my question. But here goes.?
I have been using decoder pro and operations pro for five years with great results. I do the normal up dates when needed and have never had an issue.?
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Today I started decoder pro and my loco roster did not come up. The program went to starting a new roster page. My roster list is still in my operations pro window. What could I have done to have eliminate decoder pro loco roster? Any help would be appreciated. It is not the end of the world but it sure would be nice to know what I did to keep from ever doing it again.
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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Re: Need help: computer connection to LocoNet freezes

 

Nick and anyone else who happens to read this thread looking for help with high volume message traffic issues,?
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You should be aware of the fact that each iteration the wait() function inserted in the "intialize.py" script as earlier posted in this thread will cause the main JMRI program thread of the entire PanelPro program to pause for the specified duration.? In other words, Everything Stops!??
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If your script is only run as one of the startup options, the cumulative delays might not be of much concern, at least right now.? Since you described a personal layout in the OP, you have control over all the future ramifications.
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Other group members reading this may not have such freedom of control.??
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In our club situation, it is not clear who will make what changes in the future or who will decide to run a script during a messed up Ops session or who will complain when something goes wrong due to some unexpected change or even if they will be aware of the implications of multithread execution.? It is also not clear that I will still be able to dig for answers to any such questions.??
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The distributed example scripts named "InitAllTurnoutsSensors.py" and "InitLocoNetSensors.py" wrap their advertised decision process in classes derived from jmri.jmrit.automat.AbstractAutomaton as do several other examples, for a good reason.??
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The big advantage for this discussion, is that the AbstractAutomation class runs on a thread that is not the main program thread.??
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See for a lot of details, but of interest here is a very long list of functions with names that start with "wait..." that give us some slack to allow a hardware item to respond when or even if there is some external action.??
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In particular a line of code copied directly from one of the aforementioned scripts that was inserted precisely because we have no control or even much insight into the workings of LocoNet internals:
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? ?self.waitMsec(125) ?# stall for Command Station action
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That and similar instructions were added because our club had the same problem you described more than 12 years ago, random incomplete initialization errors. If one searches this group's messages or the /g/LocoNet-Hackers/topics list or perhaps any network related website for message storm or related terminology, there is way too much sad information to share.??
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The delays do not provide a fix, merely a workaround and are subject to periodic revision as additional LocoNet hardware keeps making new puzzles to deal with.
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BillyBob provided instructive and useful information back then that helped me, and I am still grateful.
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The JMRI document he pointed you to has evolved a lot since then.
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Other DCC Command Stations have similar message traffic limitations for large layouts, but of the few that I have had experience with, better information has been available to the users.??
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Cliff in Baja SoCal
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Re: Need help: computer connection to LocoNet freezes

 

Thank you very much. I was able to solve my problem by using a "wait(350)" command in my script to slow down the turnout commands.
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Nick
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