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Locked Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address

Nick
 

Friends,

Just FYI on this off-topic thread. I BETA tested for QSI and the only decoders that had the short-circuit problem were the original OEM decoders OR those that were set for dual mode (analog operation) . Once the OEM decoders had the upgrade chips installed,? and analog operation disabled, they no longer had that problem , nor any other version from version 7 through the latest Titan. I too do decoder installs and have had no problems with any I've done over the past 10 years . Currently I have or 25 personal locos with QSI decoders in them ranging from upgraded OEM in Atlas and BLI locos to converted brass installs. I prefer them to tsunami but that is what makes this a great hobby. We have choices.

On the other problem with the NCE system, I have run into an issue similar to that when a friend programmed some decoders on an NCE system. For some unknown reason, the NCE system somehow added a zero to the leading digit of the loco address. (They were 3-digit numbers) Digitrax would not recognize them but the NCE system did. Once I reprogrammed them on a Digitrax system, the problem disappeared. They were not programmed through JMRI on the NCE system but he used the throttle and a programming track.

We never did figure out how it happened.

Regards,
Nick Kulp

"I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals"

- Nick Kulp

Concur with Thomas on the QSI opinion.?? I remove QSI decoders when I encounter one.?? I do DCC installs for others and I won't touch them.? Too problematic, time consuming, and fickle.??? I had one loco that came back to me 3 times, with the complaint that it wouldn't respond to commands on the individuals NCE layout, but when I placed it on my Digitrax layout ran like a champ.


Locked Re: DecoderPro &ESU LokSound Factory reset

Frank in Houston
 

YES a BIG help indeed.? THANK YOU and I will do as you suggest.? THANK YOU.


Locked Re: Predicate memory in Logix not renamed when user name changed #memory #renaming #logix

 

Howdy Cliff.? I was merely renaming several memory variables in the table (under tools) using the JMRI right-click "Rename" function.? It almost worked.? In already defined Logix, all the changes I made in the Memory Table were updated for the subject, but not the predicate of the Logix action of copy memory to memory.

The reason I found this was that I was fixing an old Control Panel. I had made that CP to update a Layout Editor panel (showing the layout) of the train numbers that were in each section. Unfortunately, several of the train numbers that I was displaying on the Layout needed to be updated to reflect train changes (new train numbers) in our operations.? Train 49 was split into 47/48 and train 50 was split into 51/52 when they went through a junction and changed direction (Northbound even, Southbound odd).? That Control Panel also logged the time from the Fast Clock into memory variables on a different Control Panel (for the Dispatcher's records) when a train originated, OS'd at a station, or terminated. So, with three panels displayed (a Layout Panel on the overhead big screen TV with a graphical representation of the layout, with occupancy colors on the track and memory variables displayed for the train in that section, a Control Panel with all trains listed and highlighted while active with memory variables for time stamps, and a Control Panel for the Station Operator with the trains listed and highlighted while active with buttons for "move to next" which would update the big screen and the Dispatcher panel).? Whew...so much talking...sorry.? But if anyone is interested, I could post that xml file in the files section (used with LocoNet Simulator).

Anyway, I was happy that most of the name changes from the table renaming (user name only) feature actually worked as expected.? I did not know if what I found is unexpected or not, but personally, I was surprised that the name changes did not propagate throughout the Logix actions.

Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA


Locked Re: DecoderPro move to different computer

Frank in Houston
 

Yes...I am using a windows 7 laptop computer (locobuffer-usb) and my DCC system is Digitrax ....sorry about the confusion


Locked Re: DecoderPro &ESU LokSound Factory reset

 

Frank,

On 8/1/19 7:26 PM, Frank in Houston wrote:
First I go to NEW Locomotive and select ESU as decoder manufacturer ?
Then I click on that and go thru the menu of decoders until I find
"LokSound Select".. I select that and I have a new entry that I can use
to program my new locomotive.

QUESTION:? The CV's listed on this initial set up of CV's, in
DecoderPro, are those values? the same as Factory Reset values?
I believe in most decoders they are (as far as the JMRI people knew when
they wrote the definition).

The exception - you guessed it - are sound decoders... (I definitely
know that about LokSound and Digitrax sound decoders)

That's because the default settings (and also the meaning) of some of
the CVs depend on the sound scheme loaded on the decoder. What might be
"steam chuff rate" on a steam sound scheme could be "turbo whine on/off"
on an SD40-2 diesel scheme or "idle sound timeout" on a GP20 or not
exist at all on an F7 scheme.

Is this correct?? Should I do a READ of all CV's of this new locomotive
first to make sure the CV values in the DecoderPro are the same as what
is in the decoder before I make my changes?
Yes, do a "Read all CVs" on a new loco. And since there is a glitch in
JMRI when doing "Read all sheets", please do "Read full sheet" on the
"All CVs"-pane. There will probably still be some read errors, so repeat
"Read changes on sheet" until there aren't any left.

Hope this helps and good luck,
Heiko

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Locked Re: Predicate memory in Logix not renamed when user name changed #memory #renaming #logix

 

Phil,

What problem are you trying to solve?

Dynamically changing the name of a memory location is a big NO-NO in software. Something akin to pulling a rug out from under your own feet.

You must have a reason for doing what you describe, but there must also be safer alternative methods available too.

Cliff in Baja SoCal


Locked DecoderPro &ESU LokSound Factory reset

Frank in Houston
 

I am trying to add a new Atlas GP-7 locomotive to my DecoderPro roster so I can set the decoder address and other things the way I want them.

First I go to NEW Locomotive and select ESU as decoder manufacturer ? Then I click on that and go thru the menu of decoders until I find "LokSound Select".. I select that and I have a new entry that I can use to program my new locomotive.

QUESTION:? The CV's listed on this initial set up of CV's, in DecoderPro, are those values? the same as Factory Reset values?

I placed my new locomotive on the programming track and attempted a COMPARE.? I found many instances where the CV entry in the decoder did not match the entry in the same CV in the DecoderPro software.

Is this correct?? Should I do a READ of all CV's of this new locomotive first to make sure the CV values in the DecoderPro are the same as what is in the decoder before I make my changes?

I assumed a new locomotive would have the same values in the CV's as what is called a factory reset in DecoderPro, am I doing something wrong?

A lot of people have worked very hard to set all of this up, I do not want to mess anything up.? THANK YOU......Frank


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Locked Predicate memory in Logix not renamed when user name changed #memory #renaming #logix

 

Using 4.16, if the user name of a memory variable is changed (renamed), in Logix, a copy memory to memory action is not fully updated with the new name.? The subject memory variable is updated, but the predicate (copied to) memory variable still has the old (now unused) user name.

For example, if I have memory variables "Two" and "Three", and have a Logix action defined to copy the contents of Two to Three, it works when triggered.? However, if I rename "Two" to "Too" and rename "Three" to "Third", the Logix action will be updated to [ On Change to True, Copy Memory to Memory, "Too" to Three ] (instead of Too to Third).? Of course when triggered, Logix fails because there is no memory variable "Three" anymore.

Is this a known issue?? Should I put an issue on GitHub?? Thanks for any help or thoughts.

Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA


Locked Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

James
 

folks, thanks for the explanation. Your assistance and advice is appreciated .


Locked Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

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That explains the problem. Would using Decoder lock ( cv15&16 ) prevent this?


On 1 Aug 2019, at 23:18, David Klemm <davidklemm7511@...> wrote:

James,

Nothing new, I reported this a few years ago and Bob looked in to and his reference explains the why it happens.?

David Klemm
Xs Max

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jamestrigg@... <jamestrigg@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:48:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami
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Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2? decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results


Locked Re: DecoderPro move to different computer

Frank in Houston
 

Hi ...sorry....I did not explain my self very well, the Computer data...Digitrax engine numbers, speed table and CV settings. THANK YOU.....

:>)....Have a good day.....Frank W (iPad)


Locked Re: Versions 4.16 & 4.17

Robert Schworm
 

I assume you deleted the old jmri distro before you upgraded and installed the new one.? Fol rmy RPi, the jmri distro lives in /home/pi/jmri.? I would delete this /jmri and all that is below it.? Then I would extract the new image right back into this folder path.? Again the path should not be /jmri/jmri....it should simply be /jmri with this folder at the top level of the distro.

Look tjru your actual folder structure and drill down to where you think your images should be and be sure this does lay in the path of the new distro.

Bob S

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:09 AM Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
Mike H,

You said " images are all contained in the Roster directory with the
roster.xml file", that would not be right. The roster.xml file is one layer
up from the roster directory. I presume you typed wrong, but if not, this is
a sign of possible problems. It is suggested that when sharing a roster
directory between multiple profiles it is better that directory is not
within a profile. This is more a safety in case you move or remove a profile
later.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team











Locked restoring sensors and blocks

 

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I came to the group a couple months ago with a problem of slow response on my JMRI Panel. ?I had updated my operating system (mac) and things had slowed down. ?Someone had suggested that my USB serial cable might have been the problem. ?I pushed back on that because it had worked so well for years. ?Well, I purchased a new one from RR-CirKits and the slowness has gone. ?My apologies for poo pooing the idea that I needed a new serial cable. ?So just as I had done a software update, it seemed I also needed a hardware update. ?

Now my next problem is getting some other issues resolved following a lightning strike of a tree next to the house. ?I had to replace the remote control for our ceiling fan in the bedroom close to the tree along with the cable box for the TV in that room. ?On the layout, I had to replace 2 NCE SwitchIts and 2 bicolor LED¡¯s. ?How crazy is that, 2 LED¡¯s not in similar places on the layout being effected by the crazy voltage of lightning. ?I guess I¡¯m lucky it wasn¡¯t worse, unless of course I still find some crucial issues. ?So far all the locomotives I¡¯ve been using seem to work well.

Anyway, here is my newest deal. ?I took my computer to the apple store to do a diagnostic and clean up unused files to speed up its processing. ?Somewhere in there I lost the sensors and blocks tables in my panel. ?I did go and find an older version of my panel where the sensors and blocks were present. ?But in that older version of the panel, the occupancy still did not work so I¡¯m still trouble shooting the detection hardware. ?I actually think it would be easier to rebuild the sensor table and blocks on my newest panel rather than do all the updates for an older panel. ?But when I went to rebuild the sensor table the way to enter the sensors has changed from when I created them in 2014. ?I can¡¯t seem to figure out the new system. ?I went to the ¡°help" for that window but could not find the specific information that addresses how to do this for the Team Digital SIC24AD that translates my detectors to the panel. ?The Team Digital sensors show occupancy on the specific occupancy detector with the LED on their board but not back on the panel. ?The Locobuffer USB activity monitor is blank. ?Oh, I also sent my LocoBuffer USB to RR-CirKits for evaluation following the lightning strike and it was repaired and returned so it is good. ?

Is there another place in the JMRI instructions for building the Sensor table with the Team Digital components?

Thomas Cain
Indianapolis, IN
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See my?
NEW website?and layout?at: ?
Modeling the Eastern Illinois?Santa Fe from the Prototype


Locked Re: DecoderPro move to different computer

 

Frank,

Do you mean the Operations data or the loco (decoder) roster data? Makes a
difference in which files/directories you need and which have tools to make
the export/import simpler.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked DecoderPro move to different computer

Frank in Houston
 

Hello. For several months I have been programming my locomotives on my friends computer. I just got a new computer and have loaded JMRI on it. I can easily reach the new (but with blank data) DecoderPro screen on this new computer.?
QUESTION. How do I move the decoder data from my friends computer to this new one? ?Do I copy all the files in the operations folder and use them as a replacement for the operations files I just downloaded from JMRI??

I easily find a folder for operations but cannot find one titled DecoderPro. What folder would this data be in??
THANK YOU. Frank in Katy.?


Locked Re: Versions 4.16 & 4.17

 

Mike H,

You said " images are all contained in the Roster directory with the
roster.xml file", that would not be right. The roster.xml file is one layer
up from the roster directory. I presume you typed wrong, but if not, this is
a sign of possible problems. It is suggested that when sharing a roster
directory between multiple profiles it is better that directory is not
within a profile. This is more a safety in case you move or remove a profile
later.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Versions 4.16 & 4.17

 

Thanks, but I went through all of that. The roster images are all contained in the Roster directory with the roster.xml file. ?I went through all of my 4 profiles to make sure that in Settings they were all pointing to the correct User File location and Roster location. I have Resource directories in each Profile directory, but they¡¯re all empty.?
I have no idea what¡¯s going on, but since I appear to be the only one having this problem I¡¯m guessing it¡¯s something in my system. I do a backup before doing an upgrade. During the upgrade process is the roster.xml file recreated, and could that somehow be breaking the link to the images?
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Mike Heintzman


Locked Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

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James,

Nothing new, I reported this a few years ago and Bob looked in to and his reference explains the why it happens.?

David Klemm
Xs Max


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jamestrigg@... <jamestrigg@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:48:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami
?
Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2? decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results


Locked Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

Are you using a Digitrax PR3 or PR4 to do the programming? If so, see





where it talks about how those use CV128

Bob

On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:48 AM, jamestrigg@... wrote:

Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2 decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...


Locked JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2? decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results