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Locked Operations: Utility passenger cars and virtual C/I track

 

I was thinking about how to add or remove passenger cars at a Location, and while the solution turned out to be so simple I wasn't going to post it, I thought I can't be the only one who overthinks things.? Horse, not zebra.

Basically, I wanted eastbound (EB) passenger trains to pick up extra coaches, if available, at a specific Location, and westbound (WB) to drop one or two off.? The theory being that the coaches had been set out at the station by a switcher to be boarded before the EB train arrived. For the westbound, after disembarking, the last car(s) would be cut off and the train carry on.? That same switcher would put the coach(es) out of the way in the yard.

The route for the WB was updated to drop off 2 cars with a random setting of 50.? The route for the EB updated to pickup.? Doesn't really matter how many, it can pickup what's there.? The existing route for the local switcher at this location didn't need to change.

The keys to making this simple were 1) set the coaches to be Utility cars and 2) to create a virtual C/I track named Station.? This track only accepts coaches.? I also added Coach to the type of car the yard track will accept for the local switcher.?

The switcher is a new Train (Kitchener Psgr SW) that only accepts Coaches.
Manifest for train (Kitchener Psgr SW) Switcher for passenger cars
Valid 7/26/1956 18:43
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Scheduled work at Kitchener, departure time 00:00
?[ ] Move 1???? CoachS/L 79'? from Yard 4 to Station
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Train terminates in Kitchener

The EB passenger manifest (train 10)
Manifest for train (Passenger 10) Eastbound morning mail/express/psgr
Valid 7/26/1956 19:43
Eastbound London-Stratford-Toronto - may add coach(es) at Kitchener
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Scheduled work at Stratford, departure time 00:00
?[ ] Pick up 4???? CoachS/L 79'? from West Staging 4?
Train departs Stratford Eastbound with 4 cars, 332 feet, 284 tons
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No work at Petersburg
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Scheduled work at Kitchener, arrival time 00:08
No 10 Use track 2 on Arrival if Picking Up? <--? Train order added as a comment.?
?[ ] Pick up 1???? CoachS/L 79'? from Station?
Train departs Kitchener Eastbound with 5 cars, 415 feet, 355 tons

It turned it to be too simple, which is not to say that I didn't go down rabbit holes on the way here! :)

Chris


Locked Re: Operations With Staging Yard

 

Hi Dan,

I guess I could have clicked on the option before posting!? Thanks for the chuckle!

I turned on Aggressive Mode from the Trains window, which got me the ability to return to the same staging track.? Then in the Options for the train, turned on 'Send all car pick ups to terminal (<Location>), et voila!? Works like a charm!

Thanks for all your work on Operations Pro.? You've added quite a few features since I could say I knew it inside out.?
Chris


Locked decoder pro. with paragon decoders

 

i bought 4 emd type n scale dcc engines made by broadway limited and they have a paragon 3 sound decoder.

using my existing roster on panel pro i place an old engine on the programming ?track of a dcs 100- digitrax.
it finds the engine with no problem and can read all the sheets.

i place these new engines on the programming track. click new engine/read decoder
half the time it cant find the engine. if try many times i get to identify the decoder.?
i select paragon 3 diesel and open programmer

if i try to read all sheets it reads some cv and not others.

one engine i got to run on a long address but when i add a consist it doesnt respond to its address or the consist address. ?2 engines have been found only once in at least 50 attempts. all engines were tested by running them on address 3. now one engine doesnt run on either its short or long address.

i cant do a reset on 2 engines since the jmri program doesnt see them

does anyone have any experience with the n scale engines from broadway limited using paragon3 decoders.

anthing i can tryt before sending them back to the dealer. ?they are nice engines. i never had a decoder with so many fnctions and conrols. ?when i read the basic page on 2 it reads. i was able to change the speed table on one but cant repeat it as it will not read the speed table page as well as many of the nice feature pages but will read the basic , motor and light pages


want can i try

are these just bad decoders

tony


Locked Re: rs232 - usb adapter for pi

 

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Jim's comment regarding one device is probably because Linux has a habit of naming USB ports sequentially, based on plug-in order. Hence having multiple devices connected can muddy the waters when troubleshooting.

I just happen to have my generic USB Linux Setup Instructions "on my fingertip" (i.e. The iPad paste buffer) from using in an offline email. May not be all applicable to Pi, I'd like the Pi gurus to comment. I'll paste it now, before I inadvertently "wash it off" my finger ? ??.

Generic USB Linux Setup
==================
Open a Terminal window and put in this command ?EXACTLY (except for the double quotes):
"while : ;do clear;ls -lt /dev|head;i=$((i+1));echo $i;sleep 1;done"
Press ENTER and watch the screen as you slowly ?plug/unplug the USB device, watching what device appears/disappears and record the name. If nothing appears/disappears your device is not loading a driver.

You will also need to enter the following command EXACTLY (except for the double quotes):
"sudo adduser ${USER} dialout"
? ?(This assumes "dialout" is the group shown beside your device in the list above.)

Do not:
* ?Try to bypass group membership by running as root. That will create further problems.
* Try to change permissions of the serial port you see. They will be lost every time you plug/unplug/logout/reboot.

Then logout and back in again so the group membership takes effect.

Then go to JMRI Preferences->Connections and the device name you saw earlier should be in the dropdown list once you select a serial connection.

In your case set up connection as NCE Power Pro Serial as per:
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If you are still having problems, you need to check the /var/lock directory and remove any stale lock files for the device. This can particularly be a problem if you have ever run JMRI as root.

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Dave in Australia

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On 27 Jul 2018, at 2:52 AM, cmitcham@... wrote:

tonight is train night, so i'll be back at it. I'm interested to see the output of the new usb check commands I have seen here. I have always just relied on "dmesg" to show status when I plug or unplug a usb device from Linux.

jim, you had one line... "Note and possibly of importance no other adapter connected" ... was that? a list of adapters that worked with the pi but didn't play well with nce?


Locked Re: LE Dispatcher : Dispatcher Active Trains Table : Signal User Name

 

Whoops, forgot to say, using SML.


Locked LE Dispatcher : Dispatcher Active Trains Table : Signal User Name

 

v 4.13.1ish
LE Dispatcher : Dispatcher Active Trains Table : Signal

Hi Folks,

I'm really liking the new dispatcher tables :-)

One mini-niggle, I'm getting the system name for the signal appearing in the Signal ID column, but not the signal user name in the signal column normally to right of the Signal ID.
Is it just me or does it need a little tweak?

Thanks,
Steve.


Locked Re: rs232 - usb adapter for pi

 

Calvin:

I had no other USB connected when I wrote that.

When I used the lsusb and found the terminal programs and did my loop back tests I did.

When I tried to set the prefs in JMRI I also had the two USB dongles attached.

Good luck as always when trying to find odd problems break things down the simplest and as few parts configuration as possible.

Jim Albanowski


Locked Re: WiThrottle "Not Set" Issues CONTINUED- "Stump the Band"

 

Sounds like a Digitrax issue and not a JMRI issue. What has Digitrax tech support suggested?

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Locked Don't understand throttle

 

Have a pr4 and have had no problem programming but am trying to use the throttle.

Have computer connected to pr4 with loconet cable to DSC200? and can get loco number in throttle but get no response when trying to run loco on mainline.

Have research several comments, but see no instructions.


Locked Re: Ops: Manifest Print Options font #operationspro

 

Jon,

If the font is installed on your PC, it should show up in the menu.? Are you using "Tabular" option?, if so, only mono-spaced fonts are shown in the menu.

Dan


Locked Re: WiThrottle "Not Set" Issues CONTINUED- "Stump the Band"

Jon Miller
 

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On 7/26/2018 9:48 AM, Mick Moignard wrote:
If you must use the extended slots, then don't select a loco with a DT500 or DT402 V2.1 first, because that will place it in the extended slots and make it invisible to older throttles such as JMRI.

??? So much for backward compatibility.

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Locked Re: Operations With Staging Yard

 

Hi Chris,

If you can set the number of passes to 1, contact me immediately as you found a bug with with program!? 2 is the least number of passes when using aggressive mod. The option to use "Normal mode" is only needed if you have tight controls on train lengths out of staging.? ?That option can be found in the edit train window.

Dan


Locked Re: rs232 - usb adapter for pi

 

thanks?everyone for the help.

tonight is train night, so i'll be back at it. I'm interested to see the output of the new usb check commands I have seen here. I have always just relied on "dmesg" to show status when I plug or unplug a usb device from Linux.

jim, you had one line... "Note and possibly of importance no other adapter connected" ... was that? a list of adapters that worked with the pi but didn't play well with nce?

calvin.


Locked Re: WiThrottle "Not Set" Issues CONTINUED- "Stump the Band"

 

I wonder if the issue is that the selected locos are already in the Extended Slots in the DCS240, which, because Digitrax have not released the Loconet specs that define how these slots are accessed and used, JMRI and JMRI connected throttles such as WiThrottle can't access. I bet you can run those trains with a DT500 or a DT402 that has been upgraded to 2.1, and also that they won't run with an old DT400 or DT402 1.7 or below.

There is a fix: turn off extended slots and then clear all the slots. ?Then the DCS240 will only use the traditional 12 slots. ?

To turn off DCS240 extended slots, set OPSW 44= C, as described in the manual ? section 5 pages 31 to 35. ? Once you've done that, then clear the clots with the purge slot button, also called the Loco Reset button, manual section 4.14 page 28.

You may well then find that it all works as expected. ?Or you may not, there may be something else wrong....

If you must use the extended slots, then don't select a loco with a DT500 or DT402 V2.1 first, because that will place it in the extended slots and make it invisible to older throttles such as JMRI.

Mick
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Locked Re: Can't get throttle to work

 

Paxton,

You can't open a second profile while the first is open if they both use the
same interface. Trying that will always show an error.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: 2 way working on single track - signals

 

Peter:

In US practice the would be either a track direction switch to manually set direction or picking off the first entry point to initiate what's called tumble down... All the signals in the opposing direction go to stop.

Does this sound what you want?

Jim Albanowski


Locked Re: Can't get throttle to work

 

I can't get throttle to work and when I set up a second profile it uses the same com port and I get error message when I try to start up.


Locked Re: Operations With Staging Yard

 

Hi Dan,

About "Aggressive" mode.? I understand that Aggressive (build) mode is the only way to get a train departing staging to return to the same staging track, and that the default 'number of passes' during build is 2.? How does the build behave with the number of passes set to 1?

Is the answer in this excerpt from the manual, "the program will skip searching for destinations for cars out of staging on the first pass unless the is selected.?"

Thanks in advance,

Chris


Locked Ops: Manifest Print Options font #operationspro

 

Is there any way to add a font to be used to print the manifests/switchlists?? I have travelling_typewriter on my pc which provides a neat old-time typewriter effect which we would like to use.? I see that the manifest print options has a menu for font, but it appears to have a preset list of fonts.

Jon


Locked Re: WiThrottle "Not Set" Issues CONTINUED- "Stump the Band"

 

Luke,

Two things come to mind:
1. Have you cleared the slots in the DCS? I'm thinking issues like a
throttle steal situation. If the slots are clear, that shouldn't be a
problem.
2. Have any other throttles around that might have the same loco allocated?
Again concern about a steal issue.

You could use the JMRI LocoNet monitor to trace what the conversation is
when you try to acquire a loco. It may give more clues about what it
happening. Just make sure the throttle service in JMRI is turned off since
you have a LNWI.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org