No, just double-click on the title at of the preferences screen, and it will fill the screen and show the Save button. ?Or click the maximise button next to the red x close. ?Same effect. I assure you the Save button IS there¡.
Mick ________________________________ Mick Moignard Specialising in DCC Soundm: +44 7774 652504
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
I'm going to preface this by saying "I'm not an expert"...but I just installed JMRI 5.10 and Java 11 (JDK) the other week and the only issues I ran into was making sure my LocoBuffer-USB driver was in the Applications folder. I'm using an M1 iMac running (then OS15.4.1, now 15.5).
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From Azul I downloaded the DMG file for Java 11 and it installed itself and I am having no issues with JMRI.
The DMG ran an installer that put Java where (I assume) it needed to be.
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Oddly, there is no jre folder in my JMRI folder and it is still running... I haven't had to modify file/folder paths along the way.?
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Sorry if this isn't helpful, but I hope maybe it is...
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Alex M. Postpischil
Winston-Salem, NC
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Bob, For what my two cents are worth, I agree the colors you chose. ?For a little humor the Polo Shirt in Coffee Bean would have been appropriate, but it¡¯s dark and _discontinued_. I would go for a pocket-T.?
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.5 - Java 17.0.12
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On May 19, 2025, at 4:10?PM, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io <rgj1927@...> wrote:
Daylight Sales got back to me. ?They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color! ?The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
Polo = https://www.sanmar.com/p/112_CoolGrey?text=k500p
Denim = https://www.sanmar.com/p/2934_FadedBlue
Pocket t's ?= https://www.sanmar.com/p/1163_SportGrey
Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
https://www.jmri.org/images/logo-jmri.gif
https://www.jmri.org/community/original_icons/JMRI.png
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
I expect it is still a path problem. Since you don't have Java in a "standard" place, JMRI is not seeing it. Looking at the PanelPro start up script on my Linux system it starts with '#! /bin/bash' and the big header comment says that this script is used for all POSIX operating systems, which includes Linux and MacOS. This is a *bash* script, not a zsh script, so it is not going to have anything to do with ~/.zshrc, so it is not going to see any of your environment variable settings. What you need to do is put all of your JAVA_HOME and PATH environment variables settings in ~/.bashrc. I believe zsh and bash handle environment variables settings simularly, so just a copy/paste of that stuff should work. At Mon, 19 May 2025 13:11:35 -0700 "Vince Guarna via groups.io" <vince@...> wrote:
Sorry to be "another one of those guys" who missed something obvious. I'm trying to get JMRI 10 running on a new Mac running Sequoia.
First I installed the Azul version 17 LTS JDK with FX. I downloaded the zip file and put the resulting unzipped folder in my home directory under ~/bin/java and renamed the java root folder zulu-17.fx. (I did this to facilitate later, ongoing java upgrades when/if necessary.)
After moving and renaming the directory, I went into my .zshrc file and set JAVA_HOME to /Users/<myUserName>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx and my PATH to $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH. I then "source"d the .zshrc file and tried java --version and get:
openjdk 17.0.15 2025-04-15 LTS
OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS, mixed mode, sharing)
Even wrote a little "hello world" java program and javac works. Seems good. I installed JMRI V10 and fired up PanelPro. I get the dialog:
I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure no bad paths were being cached anywhere. No change.
I keep looking over the JMRI installation pages and don't see anything that looks like a step I missed. Can someone tell me what I skipped or otherwise did wrong?
Thanks,
Vince
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Vince,
I assume that "JMRI 10" is actually "JMRI 5.10".
Remove what you have done so far.
Download the .dmg for JRE or JDK (not FX). ?Double click the .dmg and run the installer. ?That is all you need to do. Make sure you select Intel or ARM based on your hardware. ?I am using Java 21 for testing purposes.
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: [jmriusers] Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up) Date: Monday, May 19, 2025 3:11 PM
Sorry to be "another one of those guys" who missed something obvious. I'm trying to get JMRI 10 running on a new Mac running Sequoia. ? First I installed the Azul version 17 LTS JDK with FX. I downloaded the zip file and put the resulting unzipped folder in my home directory under ~/bin/java and renamed the java root folder zulu-17.fx. (I did this to facilitate later, ongoing java upgrades when/if necessary.) ? After moving and renaming the directory, I went into my .zshrc file and set JAVA_HOME to /Users/<myUserName>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx and my PATH to $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH. I then "source"d the .zshrc file and tried java --version and get: ? openjdk 17.0.15 2025-04-15 LTS OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS, mixed mode, sharing) Even wrote a little "hello world" java program and javac works. Seems good. I installed JMRI V10 and fired up PanelPro. I get the dialog: ? ? 
? I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure no bad paths were being cached anywhere. No change. I keep looking over the JMRI installation pages and don't see anything that looks like a step I missed. Can someone tell me what I skipped or otherwise did wrong? ? Thanks, Vince ?
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I'm interested, but wondering if Daylight would let us have more than one color option (while I'm OK with the grey polo I like the Ultramarine Blue better). If not, I'll get over it!
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Alex M. Postpischil
Winston-Salem, NC
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Perhaps I should have also mentioned -- if I open a fresh console window on the mac and type "which java", I do get:
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/Users/<my login name>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx/bin/java
which is correct. I didn't get that before I installed the java distribution.
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Vince
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I would be happy with any of the colors Bob is suggesting.
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I am not color blind, I do dress myself, my wife thinks I must dress in the dark based on the choices I make.
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I'd be down for a gray polo shirt. Thanks and take care.
Cheers, Dennis Drury
Dayton, NV
The miracle is this: the more we share the more we have.
Leonard Nimoy
Daylight Sales got back to me.? They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color!? The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
? ? ? ? Polo =
? ? ? ? Denim =
? ? ? ? Pocket t's? =
? ? ? ? Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
? ? ? ?
? ? ? ?
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
? ? ? ? ¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
? ? ? ? ¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
? ? ? ? ¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Sorry to be "another one of those guys" who missed something obvious. I'm trying to get JMRI 10 running on a new Mac running Sequoia.
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First I installed the Azul version 17 LTS JDK with FX. I downloaded the zip file and put the resulting unzipped folder in my home directory under ~/bin/java and renamed the java root folder zulu-17.fx. (I did this to facilitate later, ongoing java upgrades when/if necessary.)
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After moving and renaming the directory, I went into my .zshrc file and set JAVA_HOME to /Users/<myUserName>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx and my PATH to $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH. I then "source"d the .zshrc file and tried java --version and get:
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openjdk 17.0.15 2025-04-15 LTS
OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS, mixed mode, sharing)
Even wrote a little "hello world" java program and javac works. Seems good. I installed JMRI V10 and fired up PanelPro. I get the dialog:
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I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure no bad paths were being cached anywhere. No change.
I keep looking over the JMRI installation pages and don't see anything that looks like a step I missed. Can someone tell me what I skipped or otherwise did wrong?
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Thanks,
Vince
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Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Daylight Sales got back to me. They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color! The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
Polo =
Denim =
Pocket t's =
Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Richard,
I don't know if this has been requested. ?Upload the "messages.log" file located at C:\Users\<username>\JMRI\log to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder.
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Startup Gets Stuck #startup Date: Monday, May 19, 2025 1:54 PM
Mick, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, nothing is hidden. There are no vertical or horizontal bars and I tried dragging the screen with my mouse to expose anything. I even said "come out come out wherever you are" to no avail.? The taskbar icon is for the JMRI splash screen only.? -- Richard Richter
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Mick,
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, nothing is hidden. There are no vertical or horizontal bars and I tried dragging the screen with my mouse to expose anything. I even said "come out come out wherever you are" to no avail.? The taskbar icon is for the JMRI splash screen only.?
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Richard Richter
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Well, I'm no expert, but a couple of things struck me.? You said in your fourth sentence that you were programming on the main.? In my mind, that's not a good idea when resetting a decoder.? I would recommend doing on a programming track.? I'm guessing that you weren't really 'programming on the main', as that is generally ops mode.? And the I don't think that the dcc standard allows reading from the decoder in ops mode.? But maybe Lenz is different.? As to the speed going wide open, that could easily happen if you changed CV29 back to what it once was as one setting in there turns off the use of the speed table which is likely the factory default.? Did you change CV1 to a value of 3?? That would have been the factory setting.? If you did so on the main, then having all the locos now on address 3 makes sense.
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On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 09:55 AM, Phillip Sifers wrote:
I was resetting some basic NCE and Digitrax mobile decoders back to their original programming.? For some reason I never could reset TCS, NCE decoders on my Lenz system.? No problem with Digitrax.? I had a Proto 2000 SW1000 with a NCE SW*-SR decoder to reset so I set about making changes in DECODERPRO.? Since it was not on my roster it was entered as a New Loco and read into the program to program on the main.? The decoder instruction leaflet had a list of the original CV's so that is what I was going to program.? Carefully changing only a few at a time and writing the sheet to make sure no mistakes were made, I dutifully? went down the list making sure the CV's were correctly changed.? The only CV's not changed were the speed table which contained a special switching program I had successfully used.? I saved the file and exited the program.;
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WOW WHAT HAPPENED?? The little switcher took off like it was running on full DC and eleven other Layout loco's started running.? I quickly hit the stop but6ton on my handset; which stopped all but the little switcher.? which to me it meant analog running as the DC Component is still present on a LENZ stop function.? I quickly pulled it off the layout.? Looking at one handset i determined that Loco 3 was called up and had applied forward speed.? While still in stop mode I changed loco 3 speed step to zero and pressed the stop function.? No loco's were running.? The loco's that had been running now had address 3. Theo only other loco's on the layout that did not have their address changed were various sound locomotives of various manufactures. All of the Lo's were restored to their respective Loco numbers on the programming track and appeared to be unchanged otherwise. The little switcher still had it's? original number and would not run. I printed out the CV's for the SW9=SR as recorded in DECODERPRO.? Everything was there except the manufacturer ID.? That when it struck me.? Had I tried to program a dead decoder??? Will DECODERPRO even let you ???
COMMENTS PLEASE.
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I was resetting some basic NCE and Digitrax mobile decoders back to their original programming.? For some reason I never could reset TCS, NCE decoders on my Lenz system.? No problem with Digitrax.? I had a Proto 2000 SW1000 with a NCE SW*-SR decoder to reset so I set about making changes in DECODERPRO.? Since it was not on my roster it was entered as a New Loco and read into the program to program on the main.? The decoder instruction leaflet had a list of the original CV's so that is what I was going to program.? Carefully changing only a few at a time and writing the sheet to make sure no mistakes were made, I dutifully? went down the list making sure the CV's were correctly changed.? The only CV's not changed were the speed table which contained a special switching program I had successfully used.? I saved the file and exited the program.;
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WOW WHAT HAPPENED?? The little switcher took off like it was running on full DC and eleven other Layout loco's started running.? I quickly hit the stop but6ton on my handset; which stopped all but the little switcher.? which to me it meant analog running as the DC Component is still present on a LENZ stop function.? I quickly pulled it off the layout.? Looking at one handset i determined that Loco 3 was called up and had applied forward speed.? While still in stop mode I changed loco 3 speed step to zero and pressed the stop function.? No loco's were running.? The loco's that had been running now had address 3. Theo only other loco's on the layout that did not have their address changed were various sound locomotives of various manufactures. All of the Lo's were restored to their respective Loco numbers on the programming track and appeared to be unchanged otherwise. The little switcher still had it's? original number and would not run. I printed out the CV's for the SW9=SR as recorded in DECODERPRO.? Everything was there except the manufacturer ID.? That when it struck me.? Had I tried to program a dead decoder??? Will DECODERPRO even let you ???
COMMENTS PLEASE.
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Re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I was not even thinking about embroidery, but if we can do embroidery, I am definitely in for a shirt.
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I really like the embroidered model rr shirts over th screen printed.
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Re: Looking for ideas to mirror SE8C signals between two panels
> jython/FollowSE8c.py
> It listens to LocoNet (i.e. the other computer¡¯s traffic) and sets a local virtual signal head to correspond to the actual SE8c signal head.
This looks to be exactly what I need.? Thanks.
-- ?Chris
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Re: Looking for ideas to mirror SE8C signals between two panels
Take a look at
jython/FollowSE8c.py
It listens to LocoNet (i.e. the other computer¡¯s traffic) and sets a local virtual signal head to correspond to the actual SE8c signal head.
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: Looking for ideas to mirror SE8C signals between two panels
> Assuming that you are using "Signal Masts", it is MUCH easier to just > use JMRI "signal mast repeaters".? See >?
I am using signal masts but the issue is the signal mast that I want to repeat/mirror is running on a different computer and separate instance of JMRI.? The SignalMastRepeater requires this instance of JMRI/panel to have the original signal mast defined in order to configure a repeater.? I'm trying to repeat a signal mast across two computers and two JMRI instances On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 5:42?AM billybob experimenter via <jawhugrps= [email protected]> wrote:
On 5/18/2025 10:19 PM, cengel_74 via wrote:
> My first attempt was to just write logix to monitor for the turnout
> status changes that are used to control the SE8C and then set the
> appearance of a virtual signal head to match the state.
...
> Is there a better way to do what I'm trying to do or is there something
> wrong with my logix that will fix this issue?
Chris,
Assuming that you are using "Signal Masts", it is MUCH easier to just
use JMRI "signal mast repeaters".? See
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Re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Just perused the Lakeshores attire at Daylight Sales. The prices are not bad especially considering it includes custom embroidery.?
I¡¯m in for a JMRI shirt.?
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John Bauchiero
Heath @ Human[c]ity Junction
Bob Jacobsen