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Locked Re: Program stalls.

 

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PJ,

You have not given us anything to work with, but one common issue is that Windows will disconnect the serial ports if it goes to sleep. JMRI does not know how to get them going again when Windows wakes up again. The answer is simple. Don't do that. I.e. don't let Windows shut down when there is no activity, or at least set the time before snoozing to a long time with no activity.

Dick :)

On 2/8/2020 9:26 AM, whmvd wrote:

PJ,

Please also elaborate as much as you can on what you mean when you say 'stalling'. Is it slowing down? If so: WHAT is slowing down? Is it stopping completely? If so: is that sudden or is response (in controlling a train or maybe a panel) getting progressively slower before grinding to a halt?

We must seem a collection of pedants, but, really, getting to grips means getting as clear an idea on what goes on as you can possibly give.

Wouter

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 12:45, Phil in gorgeous Young Harris via Groups.Io <philabernathy=[email protected]> wrote:
PJ, I'm afraid that the description and details are too vague to get a specific answer.? I suspect that troubleshooting will have to involve changing things on that computer such as scripts or panels that are run from the start.?

For example, I suspect that "runaway" scripts with endless loops are the most common issue of a working JMRI that seems to be "stalling" but really, is just too busy to take input from you.? Really bad endless loops can overflow the memory on the computer and actually lock up the computer too.? I have not seen Logix cause that issue, but I have not seen it all, and am not an expert in that.

Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA

Locked Re: Program stalls.

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On 2/8/2020 9:17 AM, PJ via Groups.Io wrote:
At this time it will now work again for a couple hours. -- This never happens on my computer on my layout. The programming is the same on both.

??? If everything is identical on both computers I would blame the computer!

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Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
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Locked Re: Operations manifest printing #operationspro

 

Hi Phil,
It is an older Acer laptop with Windows 10 Home installed.
The default printer is shown as the TS6120.?? The same port is being used for all the printer jobs.

I just selected preview, clicked on preview and was able to print the manifest from that window.
I then unchecked preview, clicked on the print button and it just hung again.?? Print queue showing printer is connected and printing through the same port as the other print jobs.

Not a big problem, as I can work with it using the checked preview box and printing from preview.
It's just that when terminate a warning comes up that the manifest hasn't been printed.
I just click yes and carry on.??? Seems to work fine using this system.
Locked Re: Operations Feature Request #operationspro

 

Thanks Dennis,
I didn't realize the DS and Clerk were in two different locales around here we don't have the luxury of having that many operators. If we can get the feature without it being mandatory for operations it sounds like a good idea.One of the problems I run into when teaching someone new is trying to get them to start simple then go for the neat stuff after they learn the basics. The most of the calls I get is from newbies wanting to run schedules, alt. tracks and some of the other things that are great about this program when they have never even built a single train. The biggest thing we as experienced operators with JMRI is to teach the newbies is the KISS method and help them to get up and running before taking them off the deep end of the pool. I think it would be great if we had weekly or so online training course to help newbies learn the program from simple data entry to the complex componets in scheduling and other ideas. I have been fooling around with JMRI for 10 years or so and still am learning new things all the time. I for one would welcome beginer and advanced seminars on JMRI at conventions and train shows. Here in Nebraska we are scattered all over the place and far apart we learn online but sometimes we just have to go hands on in person.
?Sorry this rambles.
Just my thoughts helping newbies and experienced operators with JMRI
This is a great program, Thanks
Matt Greenwood
Cascade Rwy
Grant NE?
Locked Re: Program stalls.

 

By stalling I mean it freezes. I put the mouse on a switch to turn it and nothing happens. I try to bring the main menu up to shut down and nothing happen. I have to shut the computer down wait 10 or so seconds, restart the computer and the restart the Panel Pro. At this time it will now work again for a couple hours. It¡¯s frustrating during an op session. This never happens on my computer on my layout. The programming is the same on both.

PJ
Locked Re: Setting Max Speed on Broadway Limited & Digitrax N Scale Decoders

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Yes I agree, too many variables, too? vague,? and not really a JMRI issue. ?

Marc?

Locked Re: Can't load JMRI4.18 on Windows 10 Laptop #windows10 #4-18

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Other possible is do not try the update while there is a running copy of JMRI or you will get this message.

A? anti-virus app has a "quarantine" where downloaded, un-trusted apps, are placed.? Find it and tell the Anti-virus you trust the app in question.? OR wait for the next update of you Anti-Virus app.

Marc
Locked Re: Clarifying expection

 


Thank you


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 11:04 AM Peter Ulvestad <ulvestad@...> wrote:
Attachments are not allowed.
You can create a folder within the "Problems Being Worked On" folder of the files section and upload your attachment there.

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Locked Re: Clarifying expection

 

Attachments are not allowed.
You can create a folder within the "Problems Being Worked On" folder of the files section and upload your attachment there.

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Peter Ulvestad

JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -

Locked Clarifying expection

 

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I am a new user.

The train instruction below should have train 10 move from block 1 to block 3 and reverse to block one correct?

Because it just continued around my test loop.? What am I missing.

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Sent from for Windows 10

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Locked Re: Can't load JMRI4.18 on Windows 10 Laptop #windows10 #4-18

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Maybe try to run? the installation as administrator?
Locked Re: Block detection

 

Skip,

jmri.Block

If you are asking about OBlocks: jmri.jmrit.logix.OBlock.


Dave Sand

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----- Original message -----
From: "Andrew Vandermolen via Groups.Io" <Skipvdmolen@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] Block detection
Date: Saturday, February 08, 2020 9:16 AM

Is there a Class to check the status of a block? I know of the Wait for occupancy.?
TIA
Skip V

Locked Block detection

 

Is there a Class to check the status of a block? I know of the Wait for occupancy.?
TIA
Skip V
Locked Re: New JMRI Version breaks my panels #4-18

 

Bob,

Excellent.

Now create a zip file of?C:\Users\Conemaugh\JMRI and upload the zip file. ?I should be able to re-construct your environment from the zip file.

Dave Sand



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From: rzeollaorcl <robert.zeolla@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] New JMRI Version breaks my panels #4-18
Date: Saturday, February 08, 2020 8:06 AM
Locked Re: Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette #paneleditor

Bob England
 

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Dave

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That is good news!? Let me know what you find as the only thing I can figure out to fix this is to manually replace in the layout XML file all the signal head icons that have ¡°<incons />¡±, with any changes to the signal head icon being done manually too.

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Keep us posted.

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Thanks.

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BobE

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Sand
Sent: February 07, 2020 11:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette #paneleditor

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Bob, Cliff,

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I believe I have found the bug that causes the lack of image icons for signal heads. ?Since I rarely work in the Control Panel Editor code, I need to do more research to confirm my findings.

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Dave Sand

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From: Bob England <rje.bob@...>

Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Panel Editor - Signal Heads not able to be Dragged and Dropped from Palette #paneleditor

Date: Friday, February 07, 2020 10:16 PM

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DaveS / DaveH

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Thanks very much for your comments.? Between your thoughts and CliffA's comments, I was able to migrate the icons.? The "Preferences" option did not show up previously, but when I physically deleted from the program directory the icon files, it showed up when JMRI asked what icon file to point to when it could not find the old file.? I've restructured the layout file with the icons on my J: directory.

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Signal head icons are all still wonky, but at least now I?have the icon files in the proper place.

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Thnks guys!

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BobE

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Locked Re: Can't load JMRI4.18 on Windows 10 Laptop #windows10 #4-18

 

Thank you for the suggestions!

Jack
Locked Re: Operations Feature Request #operationspro

 

Hi Jeff,

Yes, that train ID is SP.? The data in the sample lineup was taken from a train manifest from my layout.? If anyone is interested I've posted images of the CTC panels for both the layout I'm referring to in the feature request as well as my layout.? Here's the link:


My layout is the SP KF Sub while the layout from the feature request is the Redding Sub and Black Butte Sub panels.? Thanks.
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Cheers, Dennis Drury
Dayton, NV

The miracle is this: the more we share the more we have.
Leonard Nimoy

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:17 PM 4x2dsp <sp7342@...> wrote:
Well those train IDs sure sound like the good old Espee to me...
All my years of listenng to the scanner as trains left Taylor Yard, the crew would report to the DS train length, MTs, and Loads (as well as lead unit and HPPT). I get it, the more info the better, but here we try to reproduce how the big boys did it anyhow (for those that want to play that way at least).?
On the layout here (SP), crew paperwork informs them to notify DS if they have any work enroute. The DS needs to ask and hold trains until he gets the info he needs... ? ?:)
Its your RR, so do it like you want, and Happy RRing!

jeff

Locked Re: Operations Feature Request #operationspro

 

Hi Matt,

The clerk and DS are two different people, in different rooms and sometimes in different states.? Again, this is not my layout but I dispatch it quite often.? Can the DS survive without this information, yes.? Would the addition be beneficial?and more prototypical, yes.? Hope this helps.? Thanks.

Cheers, Dennis Drury
Dayton, NV

The miracle is this: the more we share the more we have.
Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:21 AM cascaderwy via Groups.Io <cascaderwy=[email protected]> wrote:
Question,
Does the Dispatcher perform the duties of the Clerk or is the Clerk a separate job on your railroads? If the Dispatcher does the Clerks job they already have all the info needed. If the Clerk is a separate job then you are requesting more info be programed in than most of us can get operators for. On the railroads I operate on I'm usually the Dispatcher, Clerk, and utility man with new operators. We don't run fast clocks or have to run a certain number of trains for a session I just print off another train and let the crews go. I know how long the sidings are and how many cars fit I also know how long it should take to work the jobs and I keep the railroad moving if someone needs to go in the hole that's what happens that's the fun for me watching crews trying to get their train clear so I can send another through. The owners of the roads let do this because I never do the same thing twice which keeps the railroads from becoming stale. One of the owners let me play around inside the program because the whole session is different every time. If they like what I did it will become a new part if not I put it back. We have been doing this now for over 5 years now I know what the owners want. I go for different every time but I always get permission first. We have so few operators (in a 200 mile area) that it is imperative we keep it new or find a new hobby like counting sunflowers.

Matt Greenwood
Cascade Railway
Grant NE?
Locked Re: Operations Feature Request #operationspro

 

Thanks Phil, but the DS is in a different room from where the manifests are generated and sometimes the DS is in a different state.? Bottom line is to give the layout a more prototype feel by generating prototype paperwork.? If it makes it easier for the visiting operators so much the better.

If I knew how to code it I'd do this myself but that's not in the cards.? Thanks.

Cheers, Dennis Drury
Dayton, NV

The miracle is this: the more we share the more we have.
Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:19 AM Phil in gorgeous Young Harris via Groups.Io <philabernathy=[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:04 AM, Dennis Drury wrote:
A while back I was dispatching at the layout of a friend that is using a JMRI US&S CTC panel as well as JMRI Operations.? Everything went well but the idea came to me that having a lineup of trains would help the dispatcher.? The freight agent that generates the manifests is in another room and delivers the manifest to the train crews as they're generated but the dispatcher doesn't see a copy.? The dispatcher doesn't need to know what cars go where but it would be nice to know things like work locations, power assigned (if available), but most importantly the train length and call time.? Train length is needed to allow the dispatcher to plan meets where trains will fit since not all sidings are the same length, and call time so the dispatcher knows what's coming.? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Dennis, if you are only looking for the originally planned train consists and time of departures, I think that would indeed be available from the Switchlist generated by JMRI.?

I use the Excel add-ons to format my Manifests and Switchlists and I suspect it would be straight forward (for someone with the right skills) to pare down the Switchlist to merely a listing of trains showing departure time, locos assigned (if done in JMRI Operations), number of cars and tonnage of train.? Even possibly on one line per train.? Currently, I generate a Switchlist for the Yard Crews that list each train arriving or departing from their Yard with all cars listed.? All lists would only be able to show the expected consists and any errors picking up or dropping off would not be accounted for (for example, inadvertently dragging an extra car along or forgetting to drop one off which would increase the train length).

Interesting idea for Dispatch. I had thought about giving my Dispatcher a copy of each manifest since that does include all info, but it would be pages and pages of reference material, mostly unnecessary.?

Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA
Locked Re: RPI 4 and SPROG IIv3 loosing comms #sprog #rpi

 

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 06:43 AM, visitslovenija wrote:
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typo, should have said: 4.18+R37ad3d0
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