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Need iPhone Clock App


 

All -
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Ok this is NOT a Mac specific question, is there a group that I should go to?
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I used to use a marvelous app on my iPhone by Emerald Sequoia LLC - "Clock". It gave very accurate time to the tenths of a second. I used it in tracking satellites. But then I got a new iPhone and when I was loading my apps saw that they had shut down and the app was no longer available!! Wah!!
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Is there a good app that gives very accurate time to better than the second?
?
Thank you!
?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

This one claims "1/60th sec resolution":

On May 1, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Charles Phillips <phillipstriples@...> wrote:

All -
Ok this is NOT a Mac specific question, is there a group that I should go to?
I used to use a marvelous app on my iPhone by Emerald Sequoia LLC - "Clock". It gave very accurate time to the tenths of a second. I used it in tracking satellites. But then I got a new iPhone and when I was loading my apps saw that they had shut down and the app was no longer available!! Wah!!
Is there a good app that gives very accurate time to better than the second?
Thank you!
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

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Hi Charles -

This group is for all things Apple and adjacent technology. Even the recent conversation about Internet providers wasn’t off-topic either.

If your primary use case is satellite tracking, I wonder if a satellite tracker would be a good choice. Otherwise, maybe search the App Store for <atomic clock>.

By the way, if your new iPhone has USB-C, it may have been possible to retain your old Clock app with a wired phone-to-phone transfer. Maybe a tip for next time.

- Ben

On May 1, 2025, at 18:12, Charles Phillips <phillipstriples@...> wrote:

All -
?
Ok this is NOT a Mac specific question, is there a group that I should go to?
?
I used to use a marvelous app on my iPhone by Emerald Sequoia LLC - "Clock". It gave very accurate time to the tenths of a second. I used it in tracking satellites. But then I got a new iPhone and when I was loading my apps saw that they had shut down and the app was no longer available!! Wah!!
?
Is there a good app that gives very accurate time to better than the second?
?
Thank you!
?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

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Ben -
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Thanks. By "satellite tracker" I think you mean a GPS time inserter to a video camera? Most people track that way but I wanted to use Mac products.
?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

Steve -
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Thanks, that does lead to a number of options. Now I gotta look at a few - but I am back up and running.?
?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

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Actually, I meant there are a number of apps dedicated to tracking satellites.

On May 2, 2025, at 17:20, Charles Phillips <phillipstriples@...> wrote:

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Ben -
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Thanks. By "satellite tracker" I think you mean a GPS time inserter to a video camera? Most people track that way but I wanted to use Mac products.
?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

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?Hi Charles,
I think this is the app you’re talking about:


I’ve used this occasionally for years! After reading your message I checked, and fortunately still have the app on my iPhone, and it’s working just fine. But I decided to do a bit of research and found this sad story about the company:


I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…

Anyway thanks for the heads up.

Jim


On May 1, 2025, at 6:12?PM, Charles Phillips via groups.io <phillipstriples@...> wrote:

?
All -
?
Ok this is NOT a Mac specific question, is there a group that I should go to?
?
I used to use a marvelous app on my iPhone by Emerald Sequoia LLC - "Clock". It gave very accurate time to the tenths of a second. I used it in tracking satellites. But then I got a new iPhone and when I was loading my apps saw that they had shut down and the app was no longer available!! Wah!!
?
Is there a good app that gives very accurate time to better than the second?
?
Thank you!
?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites.


 

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via groups.io <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…


 

Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via groups.io <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…




 

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?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via groups.io <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…












 

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Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via groups.io <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…












 

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?Did you read down the page? There are options for older models, too. I don’t know which is the oldest iPhone to support a direct transfer. If your 4S is included, you would just have needed the USB adapter from Apple’s?.

On May 3, 2025, at 10:21, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via groups.io <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…












 

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Way to think out of the box, but the receiving iPhone does not qualify, it is an XR. It is running the current iOS. Since I am on a fixed income, I won’t be upgrading my phone for some time.

You are viewing from a more current position than I am. I am well behind the bleeding edge, since Apple now considers anything older than 5 OS generations obsolete, and won’t support it.?

Like Charles, I mourn the loss of an app that is ?no longer available. My app was Convert, it was a calculator app that had many built-in conversion tables, that when I was working used dozens of times a day when I was working. The rest of the apps, I have found apps that are close enough to substitute.?

Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 10:49 AM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Did you read down the page? There are options for older models, too. I don’t know which is the oldest iPhone to support a direct transfer. If your 4S is included, you would just have needed the USB adapter from Apple’s?.

On May 3, 2025, at 10:21, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…













 

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?What do you mean your XR doesn’t qualify? The article indicates the procedure works to “Transfer data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier.”

Anyway, as for unit conversion, maybe the built-in Calculator will satisfy your needs. Tap the calculator button in the bottom left to toggle it.

I’m not on the bleeding edge either, though maybe closer than you. My Macs are 2–4 years old and I use an iPhone 13 mini, to which I’m holding on dearly until Apple hopefully offers a smaller body iPhone. The current models are monsters in my hands!


On May 3, 2025, at 13:15, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Way to think out of the box, but the receiving iPhone does not qualify, it is an XR. It is running the current iOS. Since I am on a fixed income, I won’t be upgrading my phone for some time.

You are viewing from a more current position than I am. I am well behind the bleeding edge, since Apple now considers anything older than 5 OS generations obsolete, and won’t support it.?

Like Charles, I mourn the loss of an app that is ?no longer available. My app was Convert, it was a calculator app that had many built-in conversion tables, that when I was working used dozens of times a day when I was working. The rest of the apps, I have found apps that are close enough to substitute.?

Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 10:49 AM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Did you read down the page? There are options for older models, too. I don’t know which is the oldest iPhone to support a direct transfer. If your 4S is included, you would just have needed the USB adapter from Apple’s?.

On May 3, 2025, at 10:21, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…













 

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Read it again, you can move from older iPhones _to_ the 14, it says nothing about moving apps from older iPhones to another older iPhone.?

Convert’s graphics are much like Apple’s Calculator, but has a wider range of measurement units to convert between. I will look at the Apple Calculator again, but when I moved to the XR, the conversion list was much shorter.

My most current Mac is a late 2012 Mac min, Catalina is the highest OS it can run. I bought a clearance iPhone XR, when they shut down the 3G Networks. My old daily driver was an early 2008 MBP, but it has become very temperamental and about worn out. Living on a fixed income is limiting.?


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 1:25 PM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?What do you mean your XR doesn’t qualify? The article indicates the procedure works to “Transfer data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier.”

Anyway, as for unit conversion, maybe the built-in Calculator will satisfy your needs. Tap the calculator button in the bottom left to toggle it.

I’m not on the bleeding edge either, though maybe closer than you. My Macs are 2–4 years old and I use an iPhone 13 mini, to which I’m holding on dearly until Apple hopefully offers a smaller body iPhone. The current models are monsters in my hands!


On May 3, 2025, at 13:15, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Way to think out of the box, but the receiving iPhone does not qualify, it is an XR. It is running the current iOS. Since I am on a fixed income, I won’t be upgrading my phone for some time.

You are viewing from a more current position than I am. I am well behind the bleeding edge, since Apple now considers anything older than 5 OS generations obsolete, and won’t support it.?

Like Charles, I mourn the loss of an app that is ?no longer available. My app was Convert, it was a calculator app that had many built-in conversion tables, that when I was working used dozens of times a day when I was working. The rest of the apps, I have found apps that are close enough to substitute.?

Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 10:49 AM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Did you read down the page? There are options for older models, too. I don’t know which is the oldest iPhone to support a direct transfer. If your 4S is included, you would just have needed the USB adapter from Apple’s?.

On May 3, 2025, at 10:21, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…














 

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The third section of the article begins:

Transfer data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier

To migrate data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier using a wired connection, use a??and a?.


This indicates to me they are referring to any iPhone from 5 to 14 on either end of the cable+adapter. That’s why I linked to the older camera adapter for your 4S, assuming it’s compatible with a phone-to-phone transfer. I’m having trouble verifying this compatibility.

I realize this probably isn’t worth discussing since you already completed this transfer. Just wanted to outline the options.

Hope you can find a conversion app you like.
?

On May 3, 2025, at 20:06, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Read it again, you can move from older iPhones _to_ the 14, it says nothing about moving apps from older iPhones to another older iPhone.?


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 1:25 PM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?What do you mean your XR doesn’t qualify? The article indicates the procedure works to “Transfer data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier.”

Anyway, as for unit conversion, maybe the built-in Calculator will satisfy your needs. Tap the calculator button in the bottom left to toggle it.

I’m not on the bleeding edge either, though maybe closer than you. My Macs are 2–4 years old and I use an iPhone 13 mini, to which I’m holding on dearly until Apple hopefully offers a smaller body iPhone. The current models are monsters in my hands!


On May 3, 2025, at 13:15, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Way to think out of the box, but the receiving iPhone does not qualify, it is an XR. It is running the current iOS. Since I am on a fixed income, I won’t be upgrading my phone for some time.

You are viewing from a more current position than I am. I am well behind the bleeding edge, since Apple now considers anything older than 5 OS generations obsolete, and won’t support it.?

Like Charles, I mourn the loss of an app that is ?no longer available. My app was Convert, it was a calculator app that had many built-in conversion tables, that when I was working used dozens of times a day when I was working. The rest of the apps, I have found apps that are close enough to substitute.?

Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 10:49 AM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Did you read down the page? There are options for older models, too. I don’t know which is the oldest iPhone to support a direct transfer. If your 4S is included, you would just have needed the USB adapter from Apple’s?.

On May 3, 2025, at 10:21, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…














 

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Is this the same as backing up an iPhone, then restoring another (usually later) iPhone from that backup? If not, why not?

Otto?

On 4 May 2025, at 04:06, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

Read it again, you can move from older iPhones _to_ the 14, it says nothing about moving apps from older iPhones to another older iPhone.?

Convert’s graphics are much like Apple’s Calculator, but has a wider range of measurement units to convert between. I will look at the Apple Calculator again, but when I moved to the XR, the conversion list was much shorter.

My most current Mac is a late 2012 Mac min, Catalina is the highest OS it can run. I bought a clearance iPhone XR, when they shut down the 3G Networks. My old daily driver was an early 2008 MBP, but it has become very temperamental and about worn out. Living on a fixed income is limiting.?


 

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Ben, it is a moot point for me. I don’t have all the hardware needed to try it. I would if I did, for sure. But I can live without it. And if i run into an occasion, I will definitely try this.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 20:36, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

?
The third section of the article begins:

Transfer data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier

To migrate data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier using a wired connection, use a??and a?.


This indicates to me they are referring to any iPhone from 5 to 14 on either end of the cable+adapter. That’s why I linked to the older camera adapter for your 4S, assuming it’s compatible with a phone-to-phone transfer. I’m having trouble verifying this compatibility.

I realize this probably isn’t worth discussing since you already completed this transfer. Just wanted to outline the options.

Hope you can find a conversion app you like.
?
On May 3, 2025, at 20:06, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Read it again, you can move from older iPhones _to_ the 14, it says nothing about moving apps from older iPhones to another older iPhone.?


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 1:25 PM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?What do you mean your XR doesn’t qualify? The article indicates the procedure works to “Transfer data from an iPhone 14 or earlier to another iPhone 14 or earlier.”

Anyway, as for unit conversion, maybe the built-in Calculator will satisfy your needs. Tap the calculator button in the bottom left to toggle it.

I’m not on the bleeding edge either, though maybe closer than you. My Macs are 2–4 years old and I use an iPhone 13 mini, to which I’m holding on dearly until Apple hopefully offers a smaller body iPhone. The current models are monsters in my hands!


On May 3, 2025, at 13:15, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Way to think out of the box, but the receiving iPhone does not qualify, it is an XR. It is running the current iOS. Since I am on a fixed income, I won’t be upgrading my phone for some time.

You are viewing from a more current position than I am. I am well behind the bleeding edge, since Apple now considers anything older than 5 OS generations obsolete, and won’t support it.?

Like Charles, I mourn the loss of an app that is ?no longer available. My app was Convert, it was a calculator app that had many built-in conversion tables, that when I was working used dozens of times a day when I was working. The rest of the apps, I have found apps that are close enough to substitute.?

Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On May 3, 2025, at 10:49 AM, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Did you read down the page? There are options for older models, too. I don’t know which is the oldest iPhone to support a direct transfer. If your 4S is included, you would just have needed the USB adapter from Apple’s?.

On May 3, 2025, at 10:21, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Thank you.?

That is a nice feature for the iPhone 14 and forward.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 3, 2025, at 08:42, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?
?
This??doesn’t list the benefits, just the methods. I learned about the capability on Mac Geek Gab.

On May 3, 2025, at 08:26, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Ben,

I upgraded my iPhone using my iCloud Account and several of my favorite apps transferred, but no longer worked.

Granted, I went from the iPhone 4S to XR, something like iOS 9 to 13, and 30-pin to Lightning.

Why does transferring it by USB make a difference and can you reference any documentation? You offer good advice, but for some reason I want more info. ?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On May 2, 2025, at 23:05, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Or, as I commented earlier, maybe you won’t. If you transfer your data from one iPhone to another over a USB cable, apps transfer directly rather than redownloading from the App Store.

On May 2, 2025, at 20:57, jwarthman via <jwarthmanlists@...> wrote:

I suppose I’ll lose the app next time I upgrade my iPhone. Oh well…














 

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Doing a direct wired transfer from one iPhone to another is different from backing up an iPhone to iCloud or a computer and then restoring that back to another iPhone.

The former includes all data on the source device whereas the latter does not transfer apps and instead redownloads them from the App Store, if available.

This thread began with a discussion of an app that’s not longer available in the App Store, and thus couldn’t transfer to a new iPhone via backup or wireless transfer. However, wired transfer eliminates this obstacle.

On May 4, 2025, at 02:11, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Is this the same as backing up an iPhone, then restoring another (usually later) iPhone from that backup? If not, why not?

Otto?

On 4 May 2025, at 04:06, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

Read it again, you can move from older iPhones _to_ the 14, it says nothing about moving apps from older iPhones to another older iPhone.?

Convert’s graphics are much like Apple’s Calculator, but has a wider range of measurement units to convert between. I will look at the Apple Calculator again, but when I moved to the XR, the conversion list was much shorter.

My most current Mac is a late 2012 Mac min, Catalina is the highest OS it can run. I bought a clearance iPhone XR, when they shut down the 3G Networks. My old daily driver was an early 2008 MBP, but it has become very temperamental and about worn out. Living on a fixed income is limiting.?



 

Jim -
?
Yes, that app from Emerald and Sequoia worked great until I switched from my beloved iPhone SE (pretty small form factor). Keep your old iPhone as long as you can if you need to keep an old app running.?
--
Charles Phillips
Houston, Texas
Some C and C++ coding, orbital mechanics analysis, amateur astronomer tracking satellites