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Re: FW: Reading egroup messages

John
 

Yea, but even if we all agreed, everyone on the list would do the same
math, decide to let someone else send in their $1 and he would probably
not receive enough to cover the fee.

iomug@... sent the following at 12/18/00 7:03 AM

Sure, if we all did that Mark would pay that fee then pocket hundreds of
extra dollars each month! =) Remember there are a lot of subscribers on this
list.

Jon Bonner


MP3s?

Stella Sloop
 

With my new iMac, I hoped to be able to download and listen to MP3 files. I have downloaded a few but can't seem to figure out how to play them. Any help?

Also, since downloading Napster, everything seems to be very sluggish: the server, connections, software (Eudora, AOL, etc.). Any connection, do you think?

--stella


Outlook express

PAUL PAVLIK
 

Here some stupid email questions.

My system is upgraded G3 240 mhz w/ 8.6

On OE v 5.02, i would like to change a few settings. Or move to a different
email program. Even upgrade?

First of all, my memory allocation is 10mb. However it takes OE about 30
seconds to open a webzine or html mail.

I noticed that Netscape Messenger handles the same chore in 5 to 10 sec.

When I open up a ezine, i get an automatic connect to the inet. This is very
aggravating especially in our school setting. How can I turn this off?

All my other memory setting, disk cache etc are default.

When I click on new letter/reply etc, I always get a letter size for a 14 in
monitor. Thus I always have to drag it open further.

Paul

In northern Alberta


Receiving and Replying to egroup messages

Fred J. Keene
 

I just modified my membership to send individual messages rather than the digest. I had preferred the IOMUG digest before, because it came as just one message and opening the digest gave all the individual messages. I could then select the messages I wished to keep and transfer them to another mailbox. I have found no way to do this with the egroup digests. I use the utility Burst to extract individual messages from other digests, but Burst does not seem to work with an egroup digest. If anyone knows how to extract individual messages from an egroup digest, please let me know.

Thankfully, I find that individual egroup messages still filter into the same mailbox as my previous IOMUG digests... because [iomug] is still in the header of each message....and my previous filter looked for IOMUG in the header.

BUT...if I reply to a message it would seem to go only to the sender and not to the whole group. What is the best way of sending a reply to the whole group as well as to the original sender? I assume that to reach the group I should add the address of iomug@.... Does it make any difference if I add this under TO: or if I put the iomug@... address as a Cc: ?

Also, I am concerned that others replying to questions may not think to send to the whole group and the rest of us will miss out on the reply. Perhaps this situation is no different that it was before....I'm just thinking about it now.

...Fred


7200/90 Power PC

 

Hi,

I'm looking to sell my old 7200/90 (you know, that odd, non-upgradable model). Anyone know of a site that that can give me a ball-park resale value? Or maybe some of you might know. It has 96 MB RAM.
I read in a previous post there there was a site that did just this, but did not get the URL.

Also, I have 2 iMacs: #1 is a 333/192 running OS 8.6, #2 is a 450/192 running OS 9.0.4. #2 has fire wire and DVD drive, while #1 does not. I would like to upgrade #1 to 9.0.4 (via the CDs that came with #2) but when I last tried the result was multiple crashes in every application, including the finder on start-up. I gave up and did a clean install of 8.6.

My question: Does this have anything to do with the DVD or Firewire Extensions that are being installed? I wiped all those out and even ran ConflictCatcher, but to no avail (CC's assessment was that Adobe ATM was the culprit, but CC is another story)...Could this be an Apple software piracy safeguard? Do I have to purchase a new copy of OS 9 to install on #1, rather than using the CD's that came with #2? Even though I personally own both computers (one personal, one for business) am I supposed to maintain separate software for each one--ethically and otherwise?

I realize this is a mouthful--thanks in advance for input,
Stacey


Re: Top menu bar

Brent Pennington
 

Hi Virginia;

What application was it?
It is probably an extention which can be found and turned off in the
Extensions Mananger control panel. They usually include the word "menu" in
the name of the extension, but not always the name of the program at least
the way you would search for it.

This is my first posting to the list. I just subscribed this week. I hope
to be able to contribute to the list regularly. I am a Macintosh Support
Specialist for Indiana University, and a lifelong Mac user.

Happy Holidays to all!

Brent Pennington

Virginia Heywood-Jones wrote:

A program I recently installed placed a drop down window on the very
top menu bar (the one in line with the colored apple). I have trashed
the program, used find to discover any other files for the program
and trashed them. I still can't get its drop down window off the menu
bar.

This is probably something very basic (and outlined in every manual
known to mankind) but I still can't figure it out.

Help, please.

Virginia


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Top menu bar

Virginia Heywood-Jones
 

A program I recently installed placed a drop down window on the very top menu bar (the one in line with the colored apple). I have trashed the program, used find to discover any other files for the program and trashed them. I still can't get its drop down window off the menu bar.

This is probably something very basic (and outlined in every manual known to mankind) but I still can't figure it out.

Help, please.

Virginia


Re: Reading egroup messages

Jon Bonner
 

On 12/16/00 6:10 PM, Patrick Benton <ptrkbenton@...> wrote:

I receive my IOMUG mail via OE 5.02, at Earthlink. Beginning today, most of
the individual messages I've received (like this one) have included an eGroups
Sponsor ad. They take forever to load, and I'd rather not have to deal with
them. Since the group's move to eGroups, I've been more than a little
confused. I had hoped to wait until we'd officially left the UTA site before
making any drastic changes to my subscription. Is there some re-setting of my
OE prefs that I need to attend to ? or should the ads be eliminated on the
sender's end of the posts?
Go to the eGroups web site and change your subscription settings from
receiving HTML messages to receiving plain text messages. When you do you'll
still get ads, but they'll be text ads instead of the banners you don't
appreciate.

Jon Bonner


Re: FW: Reading egroup messages

Jon Bonner
 

On 12/17/00 12:55 PM, Allen Watson <allenwatson@...> wrote:

perhaps Mark could ask for people to volunteer to send $1 a month to him,
and he could pay Egroups to leave the ads out.
Sure, if we all did that Mark would pay that fee then pocket hundreds of
extra dollars each month! =) Remember there are a lot of subscribers on this
list.

Jon Bonner


Re: Entourage???

Jon Bonner
 

On 12/17/00 7:06 AM, J. Hendricks <macdude@...> wrote:

I have a question regarding the font selection for egroup messages.
Can I choose them on the web site? or am I stuck with this trashy
little font.
With eGroups, if the list is setup to ban all attachments, HTML formatted
messages don't go through to the list. What happens is your formatted
message is stripped down to plain text, then eGroups applies it's own
formatting afterwards (and adds the ad banner).

My advice is to switch to plain text.

(My advice to Mark is to find a way to raise the money required for the fee
eGroups charges to remove the advertising from the list altogether.)

Jon Bonner


Quicktime 4.1.2

y.sergi
 

Hiya....
My Computer is a Macintosh Beige G3 minitower,
circa 1998, with 266Mhz, 128MB and OS 8.1

I went to the website of my favorite radio talk show host and decided I
wanted to try listening to the show online. A message from the website
told me, that inorder to listen online, I needed to download MS Media
player 6.3 for Mac (yuk), which I did. When I tried to use it, it told me
I needed a newer version of Quicktime (I had version 2.1). I went to the
Quicktime download site and downloaded the newest version ... 4.1.2. The
Quicktime Readme seems to be saying I can do almost anything with sound but
fly to the moon. Now, I'm wondering if I really need MS Media player 6.3
and is it possible I could use Quicktime 4.1.2 to listen to the talkshow,
instead? Media players and I are complete strangers except for opening
those sent-to-me sound and music files with SoundApp and MPEG players like
Real Audio which no longer seems to be free. All enlightenment is
welcome....:-)

I hope I'm in the right pew...:-)... I tried sending to IOMUG at the "old"
location and got an "unauthorized" rejection slip. So I'm assuming the
moving truck has arrived early at the new destination, known as "e" in my
nickname file. I'd heard the move wouldn't be complete
till January 1st.

Yolanda


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Re: Reading egroup messages

Allen Watson
 

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:23:55 -0500, "Fred J. Keene" <fkeene@...> wrote:

How can I separate the egroup digest into separate messages? And..
NO, I do not want to receive individual messages as they just clutter
up a mailbox.

With other digests I use the utility Burst to extract the individual
messages, but I have not been able to use it successfully with the
new egroup digest.

The value to me in having separate messages is that I can select the
ones that I want to save, and then transfer them to another mailbox.
What mail client are you using? Eudora? Entourage? Outlook Express? or what?
The specific answer to your question depends on what mail client you have.

I use Entourage. I subscribe to a number of lists, some digest, some
individual messages. With all of them, I have filters or rules set up to
route the incoming messages to a folder set aside for that mailing list. To
me, that answers your desire to have the individual messages in a separate
"mailbox" or folder. You don't need the digest at all, if you route the
incoming mail to its own folder to begin with.

In Entourage, the mailing list manager can automatically burst incoming
digest messages. That's another option; receive the digest, route it to a
folder, and automatically burst it.

I wrote a script for Entourage that will burst a digest on request if you
don't do it automatically on receipt.

The program "Digest Viewer" might be an option for you, but you have to save
the digest as a text file external to the mail client.

--
Peace be with you!
Allen <allenwatson@...> XNS Name: =Allen Watson
My web page: <>
Scripts for OE and Entourage: <>


Re: FW: Reading egroup messages

Allen Watson
 

The ads from Egroups are an annoyance to many. I run a couple of other
groups on Egroups, so I've been over this ground. If the group sponsor is
willing to pay a fee to Egroups, something like $5 to $10 per month, they
will eliminate the ads. If it is enough of an annoyance to us members,
perhaps Mark could ask for people to volunteer to send $1 a month to him,
and he could pay Egroups to leave the ads out.

In my groups, nobody thought it was worth money to get rid of the ads, so we
live with them. For users of Outlook Express or Entourage, I can give you an
AppleScript that will strip out those ads. See my web page (URL below).

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:10:48 -0500, Patrick Benton
<ptrkbenton@...> wrote:


I receive my IOMUG mail via OE 5.02, at Earthlink.
Beginning today, most of the individual messages I've
received (like this one) have included an eGroups
Sponsor ad. They take forever to load, and I'd rather
not have to deal with them. Since the group's move to
eGroups, I've been more than a little confused. I had
hoped to wait until we'd officially left the UTA site
before making any drastic changes to my subscription.
Is there some re-setting of my OE prefs that I need
to attend to ? or should the ads be eliminated on the
sender's end of the posts?
--
Peace be with you!
Allen <allenwatson@...> XNS Name: =Allen Watson
My web page: <>
Scripts for OE and Entourage: <>


Re: Digest Number 1

 

If you use Entourage and have
been wishing for some little enhancement, odds are someone has already
scripted it! For instance, I just finished a powerful script to locate
duplicate contacts in your Address Book called "Duplicates Report".
Wow! Does anyone know of any scripts available (free or otherwise) that will do this in Eudora Pro? (Paid version, 4.3.3) I know I'm probably dreaming...

I just joined the IOMUG list a month ago and am enjoying it immensely--thanks everyone!

Stacey
--
Big Head Todd and the Monsters
<>


Re: What is "egroups"?

y.sergi
 

Ahhhh! Michael... Thank you, thank you.... you are indeed a man of
succinct talents....:-)
Yolanda

PS... I sent this message to the "old" IOMUG address and it bounced back
saying I wasn't authorized to send .... now will try sending to both the
old and the new... or did I get mysteriously "unsubscribed" as seems to
happen to all of us once in awhile?....:-)


:Gosh.... no comment anyway. I'll use restraint.
:eGroups is a popular mailing list hosting service.
:
:A certain time ago, the owner of the list notified us that IOMUG was moving
:from its traditional host (University of Texas in Arlington) to a new host,
:which was to be determined.
:
:A few days ago, the same list owner told us that we would be resubscribed to
:the new IOMUG list in eGroups, and that the old list on UTA server would
:vanish by the end of the year or sooner.
:
:Let's recap:
:
:1- IOMUG moves out of UTA, and is now hosted by eGroups.
:2- The old list will die by the end of the year.
:3- The posting address becomes iomug@...
:4- Everybody, or so I would think, has been subscribed to the new IOMUG at
:eGroups.
:
:
:Munger
:
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==


Re: Entourage???

Michael Munger
 

Paul M. Hellings said:

I've recently seen some references to "Entourage" a combo e-mail client and
PIM from Microsoft. I have three questions:
1. Is it any good?
Entourage user here. It is like Outlook Express on steroids. It is faster,
smoother, with many key features that were missing. Its spell checking
integration with Office is more complete than before. It uses the
AutoCorrect feature now. Just like in Word, an underlined word can be
corrected with the use of a contextual menu.

Then, you have the PIM (Personal Information Management) features, meaning a
To Do list, notes, a calendar, and an improved address book (on steroids
too).

It works with the dictionary that ships with Office 2001, meaning that you
can define words as you write or read e-mail.

It links calendar events, e-mail messages, tasks in the To Do list and notes
together.


2. Is it free
No. As Dale said, it is part of Microsoft Office 2001.


3. If the answers to 1 & 2 are "yes" then where can I get it?
This small company called Microsoft.


Munger

<------ Personal ----------------------- Work ---------->
<- - ->
<------------------------- Writer at ------------------------->
<- - ->
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Re: FW: Reading egroup messages

 

Maybe there are some advantages to AOL after all??? LOL

Below is the ENTIRE message I recieved for this message- not an ad to be seen
apparently?

Cheers

Roger

Now if only it was default to reply to the eGroup!!!!!!!!! Every one reads
the question, and I assume everyone is interested in the answer????????????

In a message dated 12/17/00 1:59:24 PM, allenwatson@... writes:

The ads from Egroups are an annoyance to many. I run a couple of
other groups on Egroups, so I've been over this ground. If the group
sponsor is willing to pay a fee to Egroups, something like $5 to $10
per month, they will eliminate the ads. If it is enough of an
annoyance to us members, perhaps Mark could ask for people to
volunteer to send $1 a month to him, and he could pay Egroups to
leave the ads out.

In my groups, nobody thought it was worth money to get rid of the
ads, so we live with them. For users of Outlook Express or
Entourage, I can give you an AppleScript that will strip out those
ads. See my web page (URL below).

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:10:48 -0500, Patrick Benton
<ptrkbenton@...> wrote:

I receive my IOMUG mail via OE 5.02, at Earthlink. Beginning today,
most of the individual messages I've received (like this one) have
included an eGroups Sponsor ad. They take forever to load, and I'd
rather not have to deal with them. Since the group's move to
eGroups, I've been more than a little confused. I had hoped to wait
until we'd officially left the UTA site before making any drastic
changes to my subscription. Is there some re-setting of my OE prefs
that I need to attend to - or should the ads be eliminated on the
sender's end of the posts?

-- Peace be with you! Allen <allenwatson@...> XNS Name:
=Allen Watson My web page: <>
Scripts for OE and Entourage: <>

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iCab Questions

BrianS
 

Hello, I'll try to be brief...

I'm on a 68k mac, using the 68k version (latest) of iCab's browser. It's really nice but....

* Any file that is downloaded as a jpeg or other pic file type is sent as an
application which, when clicked upon, generates the old -192 (PPC app
on a 68k) dialog... WHY? Is there no 68k code in their fat binary to
handle this type of download?

my only work-around, so far, is to run Navigator (boooo!!! ). please, any ideas? TIA

All the best,
BrianS


Mail Probs

BrianS
 

Hello,

For the last seven days I've been on Sprint.ca for my internet connection. The helpful folks there gave me smtp.sprint.ca for the smtp (outgoing) mail address. Every letter I have sent was returned to me as 'undeliverable', four days after having been sent.

This morning, after being told by Sprint ("we don't support macintosh with technical service"), that it was "probably a TCP/IP problem" on MY end, I went back and switched the smtp address to "mail.sprint.ca" and all is well. Whaddya know?

I sent letters to a lot of people, so , NO, I haven't turned rude, or disappeared, and i apologize for the rants I may have sent to my LISTSERV digest people regarding "why aren't you remailing my posts?" Now I know. Sorry for the rants, inconveniences, and, invisibility.

It's rather awful to be on an amazing machine (which the Mac is) in a world of PC "techs" whose orthodox reply is "download another Windoze98" or whatever, what a pathetic bunch...

All the Best.
BrianS


Re: Reading egroup messages

Fred Maier
 

I use a program called "Digest Viewer". I save the entire message in a folder called, very cleverly, "Digests". I subscribe to 2 other groups that are digest form. In "Digest Viewer", go to browse folder and the the messages appear individually. It also groups the messages (all those RE: the same subject are together). I think I found it at download.com.

Fred


Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:23:55 -0500
From: "Fred J. Keene" <fkeene@...>
Subject: Reading egroup messages

How can I separate the egroup digest into separate messages? And..
NO, I do not want to receive individual messages as they just clutter
up a mailbox.

With other digests I use the utility Burst to extract the individual
messages, but I have not been able to use it successfully with the
new egroup digest.

The value to me in having separate messages is that I can select the
ones that I want to save, and then transfer them to another mailbox.

...Fred