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I think that depends on the item. I quite often see an option to purchase a warranty when I buy things from Amazon Germany. I don't know about other Amazon websites, but I know a telephone number for Amazon Germany (a normal one, not one that causes additional per minute charges on top of the actual cost of the phone call).
AG
Thursday, July 27, 2023, 4:29:24 AM, Brent via groups.io whodo678@... wrote:
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Amazon is a purveyor for other retailer. They don’t provide warranties,
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Thanks for the pointer to Backmarket. Always good to know about alternatives and places that will deliver to addresses outside the USA without horrendous shipping costs and customs import duties.
I found this: , but unfortunately there does not seem to be an e-mail address or phone number and it means creating an account on the website. I don't have a delivery address in Germany, but I do have one in an EU country and that was never a problem with Amazon Germany.
Maybe I will create a temporary account and look for "live chat" and some telephone numbers.
AG
Thursday, July 27, 2023, 3:01:12 AM, Jeff Kidman jeffkidman@... wrote:
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I also like backmarket for the warranty
I have bought phones and MacBooks from them
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I read through the homepage of coconutBattery and I see many mentions of “iOS,” which appear to refer to both iPhones and iPads. This is a fair approach in my book. I don’t see any mention of iOS version compatibility. After all, coconutBattery is a Mac app that provides information about Mac, iPhone, and iPad batteries. The app does not itself run on iPhone or iPad devices.
For what it’s worth, a little history: The first iPhones shipped with iPhoneOS. This lasted through iPhoneOS 3, version 3.2 of which also ran on the first iPad in 2010. Later that year, Apple changed the branding for iOS 4 with compatibility on both iPhone and iPad, though not an identical operating system install on each device.
As of version 13, Apple split the branding to iOS and iPadOS for the respective devices, but this didn’t exactly represent a change in the mobile device operating system itself, which already differentiated between iPhone and iPad.
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On 26 Jul 2023, at 19:22, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
coconutBattery as been around since before iDevices. ipadOS is only a couple of years old. I am sure the lack of a mention of ipadOS is just an oversight by the developer. IOS used to be used on iPads.
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 16:03, Bob Gerard <rowerbob@...> wrote:
Have any of you readers ever purchased a used/renewed Apple Computer from a third party site like Amazon and, if so, would you recommend that site? Amazon is a purveyor for other retailer. They don’t provide warranties, and you do not know how good any repair work is. Good with a tech retailer like Best Buy, OWC (get on their email list, they always have sales), Small Dogs, or others. Brent
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coconutBattery as been around since before iDevices. ipadOS is only a couple of years old. I am sure the lack of a mention of ipadOS is just an oversight by the developer. IOS used to be used on iPads.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 13:12, maclists <maclists@...> wrote:
?I don't see iPadOS specifically mentioned anywhere after the "in your Mac, iPhone and iPad", but would coconutBattery also work for an iPad connected via USB?
Good to see that it still works for Mojave and the licence is not expensive
AG
Wednesday, July 26, 2023, 5:15:51 PM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io otto.nikolaus@... wrote:
I use coconutBattery, which does that, and also does the same for any iOS device connected using USB.
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Bob, you might research calibrating the battery. It might be off a little, but I have heard of it being off by anything significant.?
My guess is the 6% is fairly accurate. Only 2 years on a battery is possible.?
As to MBP reliability, my early 2008 MBP, under warranty, it has gone thru a motherboard early on, and 2 keyboard, as the warranty was running out. It is on its 3rd removable battery. Only issues are that it has an old OS and old 3rd party software.?
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? On Jul 26, 2023, at 16:00, maclists <maclists@...> wrote:
What happens if you remove the laptop battery and run on mains power only? Do the beachballs go away?
This is extremely complicated with this model and he can’t manage it with his RA.
Is the battery still charging at all? If not, it might simply be a loose wire somwehere between the mains power input and the battery.
As stated: ?green light indicates a full charge. ?On the Apple Battery meter and on one downloaded from the App Store, the current state of charge is given as 6% and never changes from that figure.
Bob
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Which app is he using to check the battery?
I believe Coconut will tell you the number of accumulated cycles and the health of the battery.?
What does Sys Prefs tell you about the battery??
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? That senior with the 2013 MB Pro continues to have problems.
I put a new battery in that computer two years ago but he reports that, trying two different chargers, the charging light on the cable is green, but the charge shows 6% and will go no higher.
He downloaded one of the free battery apps from the App Store and it shows exactly the same thing: ?battery is at 6% and will not go above that.
The beachballs and slowdowns have returned.
I have him reset the SMC but that did not help.
I suspect it’s either the battery or the power supply and looking on the iFixit site, I don’t see any instructions for replacing a power supply.
Might any of you have any insights to offer that I can suggest this senior try?
Bob
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“They say the Lord?answers all our?prayers, it’s just that?sometimes he?answers no.”
- Amor Towles
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 21:14, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
Here is a list of the places that I know about:
Randy - your knowledge is little short of encyclopedic!! ?
I’ll add all those sites to my Refurbished bookmark folder.
Many thank
Bob
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 21:01, Jeff Kidman <jeffkidman@...> wrote:
I also like backmarket for the warranty?
I have bought phones and MacBooks from them
Thanks, Jeff. ?Their one-year warranty is particularly reassuring.
Bob
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- Amor Towles
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 21:08, Steve Kane <skane-l@...> wrote:
Often OWC can provide the Mac model with the ram and storage you might be looking for.?
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Thank you for that one Steve and for the details on your experience with them. ?Another one to bookmark.
Bob
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- Amor Towles
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 4:03 PM, Bob Gerard <rowerbob@...> wrote:
Have any of you readers ever purchased a used/renewed Apple Computer from a third party site like Amazon and, if so, would you recommend that site? If you want a Mac that was made within the last year or so, you can’t beat Apple Refurbished because they come like-new and include a warranty. If you want something older, I’ve had incredible luck with GroupOn. They have both grade-“A” refurbs and they also have scratch and dent items that are otherwise perfect at a nice discount. They have awesome sales on holidays. Here is a list of the places that I know about: (5 star rating with over 10,000 reviews from Yelp) __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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I have purchased 13" MacBook Pros from OWC (aka macsales.com). They were both mid 2012 non retina. It was a while ago. These are models that allow swapping ram and hard drives. I put 2TB SSD and 16 GB ram in them both, purchased from OWC at various times, when the prices improved. The 2012s are both still running. One in daily use as a main machine, the other as a backup server.
Often OWC can provide the Mac model with the ram and storage you might be looking for.
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Have any of you readers ever purchased a used/renewed Apple Computer from a third party site like Amazon and, if so, would you recommend that site?
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Ben Rosenthal < ben@...> wrote:
However, for a third-party, I would go to Backmarket for its 1-year warranty. Best deal I see there is?.
Thank you very much, Ben!
Just bookmarked that one. ?The one-year warranty is nice; better than Amazon and OWC , the latter of which only offers a 30-day, ?money-back offer.
Bob
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I also like backmarket for the warranty?
I have bought phones and MacBooks from them?
Jeff?
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I generally prefer Apple Refurbished, where I see the price is closer to $1,000+tax. I think the M2 model is about $1,200.
However, for a third-party, I would go to Backmarket for its 1-year warranty. Best deal I see there is?.
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The wife suggested that I write to the old friend to whom I was going to give an iPad Air for his birthday. ?Good idea, because while he was most appreciative of the idea, it turns out that, because of back problems, he does most of his work in a chair/on a couch so an iPad with a detached keyboard would not work out.
The refurbished M-1 MB Airs with 512 GB SSDs on the Apple site ?are about $1,200 while those on the Amazon Renewed site are $828 (and come with a 90-day warrantee).
Have any of you readers ever purchased a used/renewed Apple Computer from a third party site like Amazon and, if so, would you recommend that site?
Many thanks for any tips.
Bob
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“ A man sees in the?world what he?carries in his heart.”
— Goethe,?Faust
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Reliable sources of used computers.
The wife suggested that I write to the old friend to whom I was going to give an iPad Air for his birthday. ?Good idea, because while he was most appreciative of the idea, it turns out that, because of back problems, he does most of his work in a chair/on a couch so an iPad with a detached keyboard would not work out.
The refurbished M-1 MB Airs with 512 GB SSDs on the Apple site ?are about $1,200 while those on the Amazon Renewed site are $828 (and come with a 90-day warrantee).
Have any of you readers ever purchased a used/renewed Apple Computer from a third party site like Amazon and, if so, would you recommend that site?
Many thanks for any tips.
Bob
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“ A man sees in the?world what he?carries in his heart.”
— Goethe,?Faust
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Has he tried resetting the SMC?
If your Mac battery won’t charge - Apple Support
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Bob Gerard <rowerbob@...> wrote:
That senior with the 2013 MB Pro continues to have problems.
I put a new battery in that computer two years ago but he reports that, trying two different chargers, the charging light on the cable is green, but the charge shows 6% and will go no higher.
He downloaded one of the free battery apps from the App Store and it shows exactly the same thing: battery is at 6% and will not go above that.
The beachballs and slowdowns have returned.
I have him reset the SMC but that did not help.
I suspect it’s either the battery or the power supply and looking on the iFixit site, I don’t see any instructions for replacing a power supply.
Might any of you have any insights to offer that I can suggest this senior try?
Bob
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“They say the Lord answers all our prayers, it’s just that sometimes he answers no.”
- Amor Towles
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It looks like it is not charging.
Have you tried disconnecting the mains and letting it discharge completely? Then reconnect the mains power and see if it charges to anything above zero
AG
Wednesday, July 26, 2023, 10:07:00 PM, Bob Gerard rowerbob@... wrote:
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On the Apple Battery meter and on one downloaded from the App Store, the current state of charge is given as 6% and never changes from that figure.
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I don't see iPadOS specifically mentioned anywhere after the "in your Mac, iPhone and iPad", but would coconutBattery also work for an iPad connected via USB?
Good to see that it still works for Mojave and the licence is not expensive
AG
Wednesday, July 26, 2023, 5:15:51 PM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io otto.nikolaus@... wrote:
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I use coconutBattery, which does that, and also does the same for any iOS device connected using USB.
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 16:00, maclists <maclists@...> wrote:
What happens if you remove the laptop battery and run on mains power only? Do the beachballs go away?
This is extremely complicated with this model and he can’t manage it with his RA.
Is the battery still charging at all? If not, it might simply be a loose wire somwehere between the mains power input and the battery.
As stated: ?green light indicates a full charge. ?On the Apple Battery meter and on one downloaded from the App Store, the current state of charge is given as 6% and never changes from that figure.
Bob
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“They say the Lord?answers all our?prayers, it’s just that?sometimes he?answers no.”
- Amor Towles
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Ben Rosenthal
Brent
Bob Gerard
Jeff Kidman