Re: a very simple question (I hope)
I guess Option + v, which I have always used, could be considered a concept of a check mark.
Bob
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On May 14, 2025, at 11:47 AM, Ben Rosenthal via < ben@...> wrote:
I don¡¯t think there¡¯s a keyboard shortcut for that character, but you can insert it using?. As an extension, you could copy this character and create a Text Replacement Shortcut to insert it. On May 14, 2025, at 10:39, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
? Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
That¡¯s the square root symbol, although it looks a little like a check mark (tick in the UK).
I find it strange that there isn¡¯t a tick symbol available without going into emoji, etc. If I used it a lot, I¡¯d set it up as a key combo.
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On 14 May 2025, at 18:47, Steve Kane via < skane-l@...> wrote:
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Option-V makes a reasonable check mark depending on the font you are using.
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
This is what I use!
Sent from iPhone
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On May 14, 2025, at 1:48?PM, Steve Kane via groups.io <skane-l@...> wrote:
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Option-V makes a reasonable check mark depending on the font you are using.
On May 14, 2025, at 12:38?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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Problems upgrading macOS from v15.4 to v15.5
Well, this is why I always wait a week or so to install significant updates, until all the bugs get worked out and the patches get launched.?
Of course, my issue could be unique to my hardware for some reason, but just a heads up if you are running an external display(s).?
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On an M-chipped MacBook Air I upgraded today from Sequoia v15.4.1 to v15.5. Connected to the MBA via USB-C is an LG 5k external display, with spaces and two displays configured and stable in system settings prior to the upgrade.?
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After running the upgrade the external display did was not recognized at all, and all of the open apps, spaces, windows, all ended up jumbled on the MBA with the external display dead. Having experienced various oddities over the decades I knew the first thing to try was simply hands-off and shut down. Then after the first restart, at least now the external display was recognized and somewhat functional, however it took quite some time to figure out where some of the spaces, apps, and windows had disappeared to.?
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After more reboots, and troubleshooting I discovered some of the apps were somehow "off" of the current screen (space) and were revealed when I used the F3 key, which may vary from model to model, but normally shows you everything within a space or a display that's either covered up or totally off the screen entirely. Even stranger was when the "missing" apps appeared with the F3 key, even when I dragged them back into a space they flew off again. I finally figured out that I needed to "quit" the lost app and relaunch it into a "fresh" space. That worked.?
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Sorry, if I'm not being clear, or if you don't use spaces, etc. but just a heads up that if you are using external displays to be ready for some troubleshooting.?
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John
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
? ? Hi Kurt, ?you asked how to make a checkmark from ?your keyboard, but the unacceptable two slant bars \/ ?(don¡¯t know their real name) can easily be beat using iPhone emojis. ?Plus Apple offers easy ways to get either of their good checkmark emojis into whatever you¡¯re doing on a Mac. ?See 2 screenshots below. ?There¡¯s more, but you can see the Apple website within the screenshot and find more on your own.
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On May 14, 2025, at 10:38?AM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
Control+Command+Space is the default shortcut for Emoji & Symbols.
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On May 14, 2025, at 11:08, ncoom gilbar via groups.io <ncoom@...> wrote:
? Easy for me. Once you use more than one keyboard layout, you have an icon in the Menu Bar. Click on that, one of the options is Show Emoji and Icons. Scrolling through there, you can find almost anything.
How do you get there without the icon??
shalom, ncoom
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On 14 May 2025, at 13:38, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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¡°The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
Easy for me. Once you use more than one keyboard layout, you have an icon in the Menu Bar. Click on that, one of the options is Show Emoji and Icons. Scrolling through there, you can find almost anything.
How do you get there without the icon??
shalom, ncoom
???? ??????? small-odds-man We¡¯re all here because we¡¯re not all there
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On 14 May 2025, at 13:38, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
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Option-V makes a reasonable check mark depending on the font you are using.
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On May 14, 2025, at 12:38?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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Re: a very simple question (I hope)
I don¡¯t think there¡¯s a keyboard shortcut for that character, but you can insert it using?. As an extension, you could copy this character and create a Text Replacement Shortcut to insert it.
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On May 14, 2025, at 10:39, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
? Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
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¡°The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould
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a very simple question (I hope)
Can someone please tell me how to make a check mark on the Mac keyboard.
Thanx,
Kurt Youngmann
***
¡°The most erroneous stories?are?those we think we know?best --?and therefore never?scrutinize or?question." -?Stephen Jay Gould
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On May 14, 2025, at 5:37 AM, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:
I agree Migration Assistant does the best job of transferring from an old Mac to a new one. In fact, MA can do things that are more or less impossible to replicate any other way. The last time time that I got a new Mac, I decided to upgrade by starting over from mostly scratch. But I soon found that it was impossible to move over the many rules that I had created in Mail, and just about everything else having to do with Mail, without using MA. That alone would have taken me forever to re-create manually. I lost a lot of stuff from my browser and other apps too. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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I agree Migration Assistant does the best job of transferring from an old Mac to a new one.
Dutch
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On May 14, 2025, at 12:06?AM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
I recommend using Migration Assistant and transferring everything. Then, on your new computer, do the necessary cleanup. You can use a tool like AppCleaner to prompt you to delete app support files when you delete an application.
On May 13, 2025, at 19:44, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?So today I got my new computer. It¡¯s sitting in the box. I haven¡¯t opened it yet. It¡¯s always a lot of work to start on a new device. I could¡¯ve had Best Buy transfer current computer apps to the new one, however, I just don¡¯t trust Best Buy or the geek squad. The older one I¡¯m using I originally transferred what I needed from an even older computer when I first bought it and that was many years ago. Best Buy offered to transfer everything to the new computer but as I said, I don¡¯t think so. This way, I will take a look at what I really need and maybe dispense with things that I don¡¯t need. It¡¯s so easy to fill up a computer with all kinds of apps and documents and movies, etc. This new computer I just got is the 16 inch max with one TB of storage. I would have gotten more, but I was told at the store that was the only amount that I could only get at Best Bu. So I got the biggest one I could and I¡¯m hoping that we¡¯ll work out for me. I¡¯ve heard rumors that in the next couple months prices are going to go way up; I figured it¡¯s better just to buy one now my computer that I use now is getting pretty full
Ellen
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On May 1, 2025, at 10:36?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
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On May 1, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote: It¡¯s unlikely your Mac has any malware. macOS is quite good at protecting you against that. Scamming attempts, while malicious, are necessarily
related.
I agree. The chances that there is any malware on her computer are just about nil¡.EXCEPT¡.
When you communicate with a scammer, and they ask for access to your computer, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM. Then all bets are off.
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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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I recommend using Migration Assistant and transferring everything. Then, on your new computer, do the necessary cleanup. You can use a tool like AppCleaner to prompt you to delete app support files when you delete an application.
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On May 13, 2025, at 19:44, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?So today I got my new computer. It¡¯s sitting in the box. I haven¡¯t opened it yet. It¡¯s always a lot of work to start on a new device. I could¡¯ve had Best Buy transfer current computer apps to the new one, however, I just don¡¯t trust Best Buy or the geek squad. The older one I¡¯m using I originally transferred what I needed from an even older computer when I first bought it and that was many years ago. Best Buy offered to transfer everything to the new computer but as I said, I don¡¯t think so. This way, I will take a look at what I really need and maybe dispense with things that I don¡¯t need. It¡¯s so easy to fill up a computer with all kinds of apps and documents and movies, etc. This new computer I just got is the 16 inch max with one TB of storage. I would have gotten more, but I was told at the store that was the only amount that I could only get at Best Bu. So I got the biggest one I could and I¡¯m hoping that we¡¯ll work out for me. I¡¯ve heard rumors that in the next couple months prices are going to go way up; I figured it¡¯s better just to buy one now my computer that I use now is getting pretty full
Ellen
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On May 1, 2025, at 10:36?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
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On May 1, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote: It¡¯s unlikely your Mac has any malware. macOS is quite good at protecting you against that. Scamming attempts, while malicious, are necessarily
related.
I agree. The chances that there is any malware on her computer are just about nil¡.EXCEPT¡.
When you communicate with a scammer, and they ask for access to your computer, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM. Then all bets are off.
__________________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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Re: iPhone 16. Are some services optional?
I got my iPhone 15 last year. I¡¯d be interesting to see how your wife likes her new 16 in a few months. I like my 15, but there¡¯s a lot of stuff on it that was put on when it was new that I don¡¯t fully understand. It just seems that some technology is more complicated now and answers I need I can¡¯t always find. This group has always been very helpful; yet there are still sometimes things I don¡¯t understand about my phone or my computer for that matter,or some of the fixes that somebody tells me about.? My brand new Apple Max 16 I got today is still sitting here. I¡¯m not sure I want to tackle it yet until I¡¯ve got the time and energy. Ellen
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On Apr 16, 2025, at 3:57?PM, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:
? My wife got a 16e a few weeks ago ?Nice phone. ?A good upgrade from her 13.
Dutch On Apr 16, 2025, at 8:50?AM, Pat Taylor via groups.io <pat412@...> wrote:
The 16e is available now: ?
Pat On Apr 15, 2025, at 6:29?PM, Barbara Mende via groups.io <barbara@...> wrote:
When are you going to get that 16e? Is it out? Will it cost $9000? I've been waiting for it. Barbara
On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 04:39:08 PM EDT, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:
We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
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Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
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Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...
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Well, you¡¯re right. I didn¡¯t have any malwear anywhere on my computer however I was told by someone to check it out anyway since someone tried to scam me in my bank account online. However, when I got my computer back, some of my apps were not put in place and one of them I can no longer get and it was one of my favorites. It was working great before I left my computer at Best Buy to have them check it out. That particular app no longer available and that¡¯s what really bothers me. My husband has the same program and he uses it so I tried to copy the app from his machine and move it over to mine and it still did not work because the app is no longer available. I was told why does this happen? It¡¯s very disturbing to me.They said at Best Buy that they were not going to take anything off unless they found SPAM but they didn¡¯t and they still took things off that I needed.
Ellen
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
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On May 13, 2025, at 10:44?PM, Ellen Lerner <iomug@...> wrote:
?So today I got my new computer. It¡¯s sitting in the box. I haven¡¯t opened it yet. It¡¯s always a lot of work to start on a new device. I could¡¯ve had Best Buy transfer current computer apps to the new one, however, I just don¡¯t trust Best Buy or the geek squad. The older one I¡¯m using I originally transferred what I needed from an even older computer when I first bought it and that was many years ago. Best Buy offered to transfer everything to the new computer but as I said, I don¡¯t think so. This way, I will take a look at what I really need and maybe dispense with things that I don¡¯t need. It¡¯s so easy to fill up a computer with all kinds of apps and documents and movies, etc. This new computer I just got is the 16 inch max with one TB of storage. I would have gotten more, but I was told at the store that was the only amount that I could only get at Best Bu. So I got the biggest one I could and I¡¯m hoping that we¡¯ll work out for me. I¡¯ve heard rumors that in the next couple months prices are going to go way up; I figured it¡¯s better just to buy one now my computer that I use now is getting pretty full
Ellen
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On May 1, 2025, at 10:36?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
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On May 1, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote: It¡¯s unlikely your Mac has any malware. macOS is quite good at protecting you against that. Scamming attempts, while malicious, are necessarily
related.
I agree. The chances that there is any malware on her computer are just about nil¡.EXCEPT¡.
When you communicate with a scammer, and they ask for access to your computer, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM. Then all bets are off.
__________________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
__________________________________________________
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So today I got my new computer. It¡¯s sitting in the box. I haven¡¯t opened it yet. It¡¯s always a lot of work to start on a new device. I could¡¯ve had Best Buy transfer current computer apps to the new one, however, I just don¡¯t trust Best Buy or the geek squad. The older one I¡¯m using I originally transferred what I needed from an even older computer when I first bought it and that was many years ago. Best Buy offered to transfer everything to the new computer but as I said, I don¡¯t think so. This way, I will take a look at what I really need and maybe dispense with things that I don¡¯t need. It¡¯s so easy to fill up a computer with all kinds of apps and documents and movies, etc. This new computer I just got is the 16 inch max with one TB of storage. I would have gotten more, but I was told at the store that was the only amount that I could only get at Best Bu. So I got the biggest one I could and I¡¯m hoping that we¡¯ll work out for me. I¡¯ve heard rumors that in the next couple months prices are going to go way up; I figured it¡¯s better just to buy one now my computer that I use now is getting pretty full
Ellen
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
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On May 1, 2025, at 10:36?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
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On May 1, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
It¡¯s unlikely your Mac has any malware. macOS is quite good at protecting you against that. Scamming attempts, while malicious, are necessarily
related. I agree. The chances that there is any malware on her computer are just about nil¡.EXCEPT¡.
When you communicate with a scammer, and they ask for access to your computer, AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM. Then all bets are off.
__________________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
__________________________________________________
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Re: backup full res photos with "Optimize Mac Storage" enabled
Interesting that they suggest switching the system library between two libraries rather than logging into a different user account.
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On May 9, 2025, at 14:20, Steve Kane <skane-l@...> wrote:
If you ever need to update the "download originals" copy on the external drive, you would perform the steps in that article, to switch the system/iCloud library temporarily to the external drive, and then back again when you're done."
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Re: backup full res photos with "Optimize Mac Storage" enabled
I sent the same question to support at fatcatsoftware.com <>, makers of PowerPhotos. Their reply is below. Their suggestions are similar to what has been posted here with additional elaboration:
"Yes, the basic setup for this is outlined in the PowerPhotos manual at the page below, the very last section would be the most relevant to your setup. Since in your case your existing library already has "Download Originals" selected, you should initially just be able to copy the library to the external drive, and it will already be a fully downloaded copy of the library.
If you then want to clear up the disk space being used by the library on the internal drive, Photos won't automatically purge local copies unless the drive really starts running low on space. If you want to reclaim space right away, what you'll need to do is:
? Delete the library from the internal drive.
? Create a new, empty library in its place (this can be done by selecting File > New Library in PowerPhotos)
? Use the Photos settings window to first make the new library the system photo library, then enable iCloud Photos with the optimize storage option enabled.
Photos will then download and populate the thumbnails for all the photos from iCloud, but initially without any of the full size photos downloaded. Photos will then be downloaded on demand as you use them, e.g. viewing them full size, editing, etc.
If you ever need to update the "download originals" copy on the external drive, you would perform the steps in that article, to switch the system/iCloud library temporarily to the external drive, and then back again when you're done."
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I sent an email to fatcatsoftware.com <> asking if their PowerPhotos app could help with this. If/when they reply I will post here.
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Re: backup full res photos with "Optimize Mac Storage" enabled
On May 9, 2025, at 03:47, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:
I think you will have to accept, that it¡¯s either full-size or low-res. It can¡¯t be both. This might be a novel solution, don¡¯t turn on optimize storage for the iCloud account. Then do regular backups to an external drive. The OP is fighting against a situation that is ¡°either/or¡±, not ¡°this/that/or the other thing¡±. It is like the old sign in an old-fashioned print shop, you can have it quick, cheap or accurate, pick two, but you can¡¯t have all three.
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Re: backup full res photos with "Optimize Mac Storage" enabled
Steve, the way I understood your original post, you were concerned about your ¡°up to this point¡± photos, going forward you will need to repeat what ever steps you take. If you are worried about not remembering the steps, write yourself a Note or TextEdit and place copies in both locations. As with other data and docs, back it up.
You are worried about full sized photos. If you take a lot of photos you want to keep, your iCloud Storage is going to get expensive, so I would put them on external drives in any case, even if you have then in the cloud and on your computer.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On May 8, 2025, at 10:16, Steve Kane <skane-l@...> wrote:
?Otto, that is what I was kicking around but then I realized what Ben said earlier, that it would not capture future photos.
Ben, that looks doable, though I know myself well enough to know that future me might miss a step or even forget just what the heck I had done. ;-)
My M2 MacBook Air is carrying the full 2TB SSD. But, I am a digital pack rat (since 1987). Though I did just trash all 150MB (sigh, not GB) that was sitting in my Downloads folder.
I sent an email to fatcatsoftware.com <> asking if their PowerPhotos app could help with this. If/when they reply I will post here.
On May 8, 2025, at 11:28?AM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
I think your best scenario is to move your library of originals to an external drive, create a second user account on your Mac, sign into your same Apple account, and point iCloud Photos to the external. Make sure this drive is included in backups. Then, make your local library optimized.
Ongoing, to keep your full library up to date, you¡¯ll need to make sure your second account is at least logged-in in the background and the external drive connected. Photos¡¯ background process will handle the syncing.
When you go out, you can eject the drive. Upon reconnecting, background syncing will continue as long as the second account is logged in.
On May 8, 2025, at 08:47, Steve Kane <skane-l@...> wrote: ?But if I enable "Optimize Mac Storage" in the Mac Photos app then my local copy of Photos Library.photoslibrary would only contain thumbnails, or anyway reduced resolution copies of my photos. The full resolution photos would only exist on Apple's iCloud servers.
I would like to have a way of having a backup of my photos (and preferably the whole Photos Library.photoslibrary file) in another place in addition to Apple's servers.
For practical reasons I do not want to simply move my Photos Library.photoslibrary file to an external drive because I sometimes move around with my MacBook Air and leave behind all other devices, in which case, my MacBook Air would not have my photos. Photos Library.photoslibrary would be left behind on an external drive.
On May 8, 2025, at 9:56?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
You could use TM, CCC or SD to back up whatever you want.
Otto
On 8 May 2025, at 15:32, Steve Kane via groups.io <skane-l@...> wrote:
macOS 15.4.1, M2 MacBook Air
Photos > Settings > iCloud
In the not too distant future I may have to enable "Optimize Mac Storage" on my Mac to recover storage space on the internal SSD.
Is there a way I could make backups to an external SSD of the full res photo library on an ongoing basis?
I suppose iCloud would have to somehow be persuaded to download the full res photo library to an external drive?
Maybe some third party utility?
Anyone know?
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