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Now before I start, I already know that there will be people, that so, oh I heard this or I heard that. I am telling you now. The STREET price of the IC-7000, not LIST< STREET, will be $1500. Don't even bother commenting on what you think the price will be. I KNOW the price will be $1500. Oh yeah, and don't bother flaming me about that price either, it is what it is, and I know that myself and many others will be happy to pay it! If you are one of the whiners, go buy the Yaesu 857 or Kenwood TS- 2000. You will get exactly what you pay for. I am not saying they are bad (although, I honestly don't think the TS-2000 is a good radio), they cost less and if they do what you want, and the price is attractive, then buy it. You don't have to convince people that the 7800 is worth the money, if you can use a radio like that and you have the money, you will buy it. The radio sells itself, just like the new IC-7000. K7DN

Hi the source of Megaherz magazine for the ic-7000 was not Icom France 73 de georges hb9duh

Price - I was at HRO today.. they told me that with the recent $200 price increase, the IC-706 has gone from fastest selling to the slowest selling radio in the store.. there are too many other competitive radios at the $700 -800 price point that the $950 price point makes the 706 unsaleable __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" Website: www.ky6la.com

Now can we PLEASE put this thread to rest once and for all!! Thanks and 73, Rob VE4RRB IC-7000 Moderator

I'm not "one of the whiners", as you put it, but let me see if I understand what you're saying here. Basically you're telling people to shut up and quit whining, and if they don't like it go with another radio manufacturer? I see you work for Icom (according to their press release), so I'm wondering if you're speaking as an Icom representative, and if the attitude you've expressed here reflects Icom's attitude towards their customers? Is Icom telling present and future customers to shut up and quit whining, and if they don't like it go elsewhere? Okay then, my money will go elsewhere.

Let's review what's occurred since February...Remember the French magazine that "broke" the news? It is quoted verbatim below...with editorial comments inbetween the dashes. ICOM IC-7000 Source: Megahertz Magazine, No. 263, Feb. 2005, p. 10. It is under this designation that the successor to the IC-706MKIIG has been announced. ----------------------------------------- No - this new model is not replacing anything. ----------------------------------------- We should know some more soon, since it will be available in the second quarter of 2005... ----------------------------------------- Yeah, right. ----------------------------------------- ...according to information supplied by ICOM France. ----------------------------------------- Of course, "Icom France" isn;t responsible for R&D nor bringing anything to market. ----------------------------------------- The sketch, derived from CAD, shows a rather unusual attractiveness; if anything, it is somewhat revolutionary! Here we see for the first time the colour screen as adapted to a multi-band transceiver with detachable control head. ----------------------------------------- Seems to be fairly accurate! ----------------------------------------- Here are the main characteristics as announced: The rig will be equipped with IF-DSP, which will control Twin PBT and Noise Reduction (NR) features, an inheritance from more sophisticated models (IC-756ProIII, IC-7400 etc.) The IC-7000 will not require or accept optional filters. ----------------------------------------- Today's pre-release Icom info looks promising in this area! ----------------------------------------- Approx. 35W UHF power output. ----------------------------------------- Yep - according to preliminary information! ----------------------------------------- A 5 cm TFT colour screen. Very high frequency stability (0.5 ppm). 508 memory channels. ----------------------------------------- Nope - only 503 (grin). ----------------------------------------- Multi-function scanning. Built-in voice recorder and clock. Completely updated control-panel design, approaching that of "base" stations. Free-rotating or detented tuning control. Case 20 mm shorter than IC-706. Generously-sized, backlit keys. 10-key hand microphone supplied. Detachable control head. The other characteristics are those of the IC-706MKIIG. It goes without saying that we are waiting with eager anticipation! Perhaps this new radio will be your travelling companion for your next vacation trip? Original copyright ? 2005, Megahertz Magazine. Translated by A. Farson VA7OJ/AB4OJ. Last updated:20/02/2005. /end/

50 Hz, I guess Javier EA4CWY ----- --- "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...> wrote: > ftp://ftp.yehudi.ca/ham-radio/Assorted/ic7000.pdf > and to my > listed is 350 Hz. Am > I imagining things, or is this really the minimum > current Icom rigs > ftp://ftp.yehudi.ca/ham-radio/ic706mkiig.pdf I have > this combination > invaluable for extracting weak signals from pileups. > I do like the two manual notch filters. That means > I can have access > CW. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ic7000/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

If Icom does indeed care about what their customers have to say then hopefully they are reading the mail on the price issue. Get it down to US$1100 ~ $1200 and you've got a winner ! That's still nearly twice the price of the competitors' rig so surely the extra manufacturing cost can be covered. Hugh VA3TO

Morse is no longer need in uk big changes are on the way over here.The licence is going up about 10usd have look at ofcom site for info Gregory --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail

I can't find a video connector anywhere when I look at the photos. Wonder where the TV out could be - maybe one of the little "headphone" sockets? Jerry W4UK

http://stores.ebay.com/NETSOURCE-OUTLETS_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm Here is a link to the Store, As I ordered and won a Icom Hat, NEVER any Reply to E-Mail, No Hat and will not Reply to PayPal!... The STORE Name being used Right Now is: NETSOURCE OUTLETS BEWARE!........ N8NOE-Jeff

Congratulations... one can only hope that the FCC will also see the light and do away with Morse as an entry barrier to Amateur Radio... __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist" "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America" Website: www.ky6la.com

Let's not tell Icom what to charge for their radio, If you don't want to buy it then dont! "Huze@work" <hduff@...> wrote:> If Icom does indeed care about what their customers have to say then hopefully they are reading the mail on the price issue. Get it down to US$1100 ~ $1200 and you've got a winner ! That's still nearly twice the price of the competitors' rig so surely the extra manufacturing cost can be covered. Hugh VA3TO Community email addresses: Post message: IC7000@... Subscribe: IC7000-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: IC7000-unsubscribe@... List owner: IC7000-owner@... ** "Name-calling, vulgarity, personal insults and/or verbal abuse will not be tolerated in this group at anytime. Any member posting such material in future will be placed on moderated status, and is subject to deletion and banning." ** --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ic7000/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Good Point, Hugh. All this hype about price just goes to show how cheap most Amateurs are when the rubber meats the road. To sum it up, we want 160m-440 (including 70MHz, 220, and maybe 23cm, too), all-mode, dual-receive (shall I mention X-band repeat here, too??), color display, full dual-DSP IF, in a box the size of a 706, and oh yeah, we only want to pay $1000 for it. The bottom line is if you want to play, you have to pay. Besides all that, the Yen is pretty strong against the US Dollar right now. If you want to avoid the conversion problem, buy a Ten-Tec or Elecraft (I did). I think we probably ought to thank Icom for FINALLY following up the 706 (which, BTW is over 10 years old) with a worthy rig. $1500 is a little steep for me to pull off right now, but I'll get one soon enough. I already have two 706s (an original and a MKIIG). To think that you can get a used original 706 for ~$400 is unreal considering it was ~$1200 at launch. MKIIs are about $500, and MKIIGs are $600-650 used. I bought my MKIIG for $699 brand new with a separation kit. I've seen guys trying to sell MKIIGs for $750 or $800, clearly trying to gouge other Hams now that the price went up. That's just silly. BTW, have you ever tried to use the 857 in a mobile environment? You can cover the display with two fingers!! Makes it kind of hard to see what's going on with the rig when it's that small, and I'm only 34!! I find it funny that Yaesu has tried, what, 3 or 4 (??) times to trump the 706. They make fine rigs, but they just can't seem to get mobile HF quite right. Good luck, no matter what rig you get -- like somebady said, you get what you pay for Especially when it first comes out!! :-) Just my (not so) humble opinion... Joe, N3JI "Huze@work" <hduff@...> wrote: Well, I got to see the mockup and get a preliminary brochure on the IC-7000 this weekend at Dayton. FWIW, at $1400 - $1500, I will pass on the IC-7000 and perhaps wait a year or two until used ones start hitting the market, or the price drops to about $1100~$1200, which is where I see it fits in the marketplace, all things considered. Despite the neat features and improved RX performance (IF DSP), it's still just a mobile HF/VHF/UHF rig like the 706mkIIg or the $630 FT-857 that will only be used while I'm in the car. I'm not sure that a color display and IF DSP are worth double the price to me. Sure you can say that the original 706 was up there in price when it first came out but the normal trend in our market and economy for new products is for the feature set and performance to improve and the price to drop....like PCs. (My original XT clone cost $2500, my new 3 GHz Pentium cost $600). Perhaps it is not fair to compare ham radios to computers because of the difference in volumes but the fact remains; I can get an FT-857 that has the same basic functionality with pretty respectable performance and features for less than half the price. I guess if you have a lot of disposable income to burn and/or just gotta have the lastest and greatest and are willing to pay for it, then the pricetag is of no concern. Just My Humble Opinion !! Hugh Va3tO Community email addresses: Post message: IC7000@... Subscribe: IC7000-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: IC7000-unsubscribe@... List owner: IC7000-owner@... ** "Name-calling, vulgarity, personal insults and/or verbal abuse will not be tolerated in this group at anytime. Any member posting such material in future will be placed on moderated status, and is subject to deletion and banning." ** --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ic7000/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

Sheesh... Does the "CW vs. Phone" war have to be stirred up in every stinkin' possible outlet? I'm so sick of hearing this... If you like CW, fine -- pound that brass until your fingers bleed, but don't tell us that everybody has to enjoy only the part of Amateur Radio that you do. I'm a 20 wpm Extra and I like CW too, but not exclusively. Can we all grow up and get over this. PLEASE??? Joe, N3JI Paul Manuel <k4pdm@...> wrote: --- jack_son_73 <jackr1@...> wrote: Not sure if you are talking about me or not, but I am 99% CW. Often run CW mobile. It is still not good practice to operate with excessive RF in the shack, regardless of mode. 73, Paul K4PDM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Community email addresses: Post message: IC7000@... Subscribe: IC7000-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: IC7000-unsubscribe@... List owner: IC7000-owner@... ** "Name-calling, vulgarity, personal insults and/or verbal abuse will not be tolerated in this group at anytime. Any member posting such material in future will be placed on moderated status, and is subject to deletion and banning." ** --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ic7000/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ic7000-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!

If the video out is using composite video (and it looks like it is), do not expect a high quality image on the external display. Because of this, Icom may only pass the TV image to video out and not the display itself. Anyway, I am very pleased with the product and looking forward to get one asap. Please Icom, do not release the IC-7000 until all QC is done. Thanks.

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According to the pre-release spec sheet, the receiver sensivity is identical to that of the 706, while the selectivity is noticeably better. Jim, K5JIM --- kmg5443 <ka4koe@...> wrote:

Any idea on how good the receiver will be? My 756PRO has issues with its receiver that are well documented by others. I may trade up to the IC7000 since I really don't want a PRO2 and can't afford a PRO3. Philip KA4KOE

The IC-7000 is at 1.3A rx stby and 1.6A max audio from the pdf file. The 817 best case scenario is around +/- 400mA rx.