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I did some cut and paste to put the IC-7000 next to the IC-706. The IC-7000
frequency display seems to be about 1/4" high versus about 5/8" high for the
706. The smaller numbers would not be much of an issue the way that I
normally operate (i.e. sitting still with the engine off), but it seems like
it may be a too small when operating mobile in motion. I am also wondering
about the brightness and contrast of the display in a bright mobile
environment. I used a 756PRO during field day one year and the display,
although readable, lacked sufficient brightness.

Here is a link to the picture that I made of the IC-7000 next to the IC-706.
I assumed that the height of the 7000 was the same as that of the 706.



John DeRuiter, WM7A

Good idea-- However the search was zero...
One comment was could they hide it???
Answer is NO... It is all of public record. In fact in their submission they have to provide a copy of the manual in addition to the lab test data and photo's of the test setup etc...

Here is a sample of what you can find -- this being the IC-756 PROIII

'AFJ217800'

73 de W4MAY Paul



Message: 16
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:15:07 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck maurer <lomaurer@...>
Subject: FCC approval

Has anyone searched the FCC website for documents
concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
KE5DMF

What has kept me from buying most mobile rigs is the lack of a computer interface that lets me download and upload memory files to and from the radio.

Its beyond me why any computer interface to a radio doesn't always include that feature... or why bother at all eh?

The ability to load frequencies of interest based on current events going on in the world (ham and swl), and for different travel destinations is important to me. It takes a lot of time to manually load frequencies. It takes a long time to create memory files too for various interest support. But when done, it is so fast and convenient to change those memory channels, even on the road with a lap top.

Keep in mind I prefer the radio to be as free of a computer connection to work fully and completely. I don't want a computer to have to be connected to fake the memory files for me that are not there when the radio is bare bones.

73 from Bill - WD8ARZ

Correct link for mirror site of English-language IC-7000 page. Apologies for
the typographic error.



Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group


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Ah, many thanks I thought it was my PC.

Well, having looked at the French documentation and able to stumble
along and interpret the specs... Icom may have come close to my wish
list.

Owning a Mark V, VX-5R, FT7800 and a prior owner of 706 MkIIG for
mobile use, my wish list of features for a 'car' sized rig is as
follows:

A) 1000 memories and multiple bank groupins so that it can be used
as a scanner like my FT-7800 can do.

B) Be able to scan Up or Down with a simple knob turn like most
Yaesu allow

C) Better display like that presented... Hope Icom learns how to
design the LCD driver circuits though!!!!!!

D) A CAT interface that make SENSE instead of the crippled MkIIG
limited capabilities

E) KEEP the SWR graphing capabilies but also support 144/430 here

F) Keep all of the current 706 MkIIG features like the Ts etc...

G) Add basspand tuning as well as the ability to setup filter width!

H) AND MY BIG GRIPE --- ALLOW THE 'TAGS' TO BE CONTINUOULY VISIBLE
AS WELL AS FREQUENCY so that when you scan, you get BOTH on the
display! The 706 MkIIG was a real PAIN in this regard, you needed to
rotate through the S2 (Scan) and G4(tag display) menus to do that!


Look, the 706MkIIG was (and is) a great HF rig as the numerous
contacts that I have made with the corresponding reply "I cannot
believe you are mobile" will attest to... BTW -- with a 20m hamstick!
BUT, I am looking for 1 rig that can act in multiple roles one of
which is a scanner!

After purchasing a Bearcat non-trunking scanner, I can see the
obvious differences BUT having tons of memory and groups would
definetly fill my needs in this area.

Tuning car mounted hamstick with a 706 was a real simple thing!
Seeing what the SWR (as a graph and having it remembered) is also
really nice!

A tuner would be a plus BUT with the above tuned hamsticks, 15..10m
really didn't need a tuner in my setup!

Bottom line, I want the ease of the 706MkIIG tuning when going down
the road BUT I want more features when I'm parked and waiting for
the XYL to finish her shopping!!!

Still waiting for the qsl website so I can look at files...

73,
W1LSO

Thanks Adam. IC-756proII has not a very powerfull DSP. We will see.

73, Peter

--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:

Hi Peter,

As far as I can determine without the schematics, the 756Pro3 uses

the same

DSP, ADC and DAC as the 756Pro2. It has been reported that the

noise

reduction is superior to that of the Pro2; this may suggest a

slightly

faster DSP.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ




-----Original Message-----
From: Peter [mailto:hb9pjt@u...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 13:40
To: ic7000@...
Subject: [ic7000] Re: Price of the IC-7000




Adam, does the 756ProIII not have a more powerfull DSP than the
ProII?

--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:

Hi Buck,

Yes, the IC-7000 will use DSP filtering in the final IF. This is

the same

technology as used in the IC-756Pro series, the IC-746Pro/7400

and

the

IC-7800.



The ultimate performance of the DSP-IF subsystem - dynamic range,

noise

floor, filter shape factors, noise reduction etc. is a function

of the ADC

(analogue/digital converter) which is the interface between the

analogue

RF/IF chain and the DSP. The faster the DSP chip, the better the

filter

shape factors, NR etc. are likely to be. All the current Icom

DSP-

based

radios use a 24-bit ADC and DAC and a 32-bit floating-point DSP.

The 756Pro

series uses the ADI SHARC, whilst the 746Pro and 7800 use faster

TI devices.

The ADC used in the 756Pro series has a slightly better noise

floor than

that of the 746Pro. The 7800 uses very high-quality ADC's which

are rather

costly.

The demands placed on the DAC (digital/analogue converter are

rather less

than those which the ADC has to meet, although the DAC plays an

important

role in setting the dynamic range of the transmitter. The ADC is

the key to

the receiver; if it degrades the incoming IF signal, all that

information is

lost forever and cannot be recovered.

There are a number of articles covering these topics (and others)

on my Icom

page.



Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Buck (N4PGW) [mailto:na4fm-list@t...]
Sent: 16 February 2005 05:58
To: ic7000@...
Subject: [ic7000] Price of the IC-7000


Hello to all and thank you to the moderator of this reflector.

Ever since I have seen the IC-7000, I have been reading and

talking about

it. Like most of us here, I have considered it the new IC-706

radio but

after all I have read and seen, I have begun to think that 7000

is

to the

706 what the 756 pro is to the 746 pro.

What weighs most strongly is the fact that it will use electronic

filtering

rather than the crystal lattice filter. If I recall, isn't this

the same

filtering technology used in the IC-7800, the $10,000 radio?

From what I gather, the 706 is the most popular mobile HF radio

on

the

market with sales greatly exceeding its runner-up. Right now it

sells for

about $800 US. I realize that the cost of technology drops over

time, and

with inflation, prices rise a bit, but at this point I am

wondering if the

rig might not be priced considerably higher than the 706. Around

here, a

few hams are thinking it will be in the $1500 US range.

What do you all think?

Buck
N4PGW




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Hi Ya'akov,

Here is the English translation:



Mirror site:



We may set up a file area later on, once the IC-7000 has been released.

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Moderator, Yahoo! ic7000 Group

Somebody else already did an English summary of the features:



(seems to be down at present)

Alan NV8A


On 02/19/05 01:38 pm Ya`akov N. Miles tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

I have a picture of the IC-7000 and the specifications in French
available as a download from ftp://ftp.yehudi.ca/ham-radio/ic-7000.pdf
I was wondering if anyone has a picture of the IC-7000 and
specifications in English, and if they did, then upload it to the
directory "incoming" Many many people have visited my web site just
to pick up the ic-7000.pdf file, and I am sure they are not all fluent
in French(!)

Is the ic-7000 group going to set up a file area?

Hello, would you please point me to the link?

I have a fast broadband connection but cannot get to the published
sites!

Thanks,

Laurier St.Onge ( W1LSO )



--- In ic7000@..., "Mark - AA6DX" <aa6dx@a...> wrote:

Hi all .. wow, what a busy group for its age! HIHI ... you know, I

love the looks of what I've seen in the pix .. I downloaded the
manual, etc ... my problem is age is taking its toll on my eyes, an
I can just picture going down the road trying to take advantage of
the mini screen on the 7??? ---- and if it's there, I want to use
it .. HIHI This would be a great time for someone (not me!) to jump
in and manufacture a great accessory, a plug-in flat BIG SCREEN
(12VDC) monitor that replicates (?) the face of the rig .. ..
something one could Velcro to the dash, etc..... an entrepreneur
could make a killing!

I have been using (by choice) my MKIIG as a home station for the

last few months just to really learn to run it, which is hard to do
while mobile. I have been very impressed with its capabilities
during contests, etc... Right after I get my new PROIII in a
couple months, I will start a piggy bank for a 7??? if it pans out.

73, and Howdy! to all -- Mark, AA6DX Eureka, FAR

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA

Hi Peter,

As far as I can determine without the schematics, the 756Pro3 uses the same
DSP, ADC and DAC as the 756Pro2. It has been reported that the noise
reduction is superior to that of the Pro2; this may suggest a slightly
faster DSP.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

Ic 7000 is not for TX only Rx some one have got model numbers wrong
But .Thier is R 7000 model out have seen on a website.Yes
keith you are right in a way this radio has software problems
I read on some website the Rx frequency go up to 10000mz
this on rx model

I will have second look around the Web

gregory Mi3CDF


Keith LaBorde - K4KAL <k4kal@...> wrote:
My contacts say the radio exists already.
We will probably see it under the glass at Dayton 2005 this year.

Keith, K4KAL

Yes they have had code free ham licenses for years and did not have disincentive licensing....

.....which has sparked the spectacular growth of Ham Radio and the associated electronics business...

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 AE6SM
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
"Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"

On Fri, 2005-18-02 at 12:11 -0800, jdow wrote:

I've heard not long ago that Japan was actually the largest amateur radio
market in the world with significantly more amateurs than the US.

Ah - you beat me to it! Japan is indeed the largest market. Japan has
about half of the world's radio amateurs! The US has about 25%. The rest
of the countries have around 2% or less.

--
73, Brian
VE7NGR

My contacts say the radio exists already.
We will probably see it under the glass at Dayton 2005 this year.

Keith, K4KAL

As the french article said, the picture is taken from the drawing board.

I don’t think that the new brick exist in one single copy yet….



/Per

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Fr?n: chuck maurer [mailto:lomaurer@...]
Skickat: den 18 februari 2005 21:15
Till: ic7000@...
?mne: [ic7000] FCC approval



Has anyone searched the FCC website for documents
concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
KE5DMF



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Has anyone searched the FCC website for documents
concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
KE5DMF

I've heard not long ago that Japan was actually the largest amateur radio
market in the world with significantly more amateurs than the US.

This might bear looking into.
{^_^}

Probably the FCC thing...