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Re: [IC-7000] Strange issues with output power

 

George

The finals are either working or they are not - 0% or 100 %
A big culprit is usually either the power supply - it MUST supply
a minimum of 13.8 volts even under load or else it drops power.
Or else the fuse holders need cleaning - there might be a voltage
drop on them.
The IC-7000 is EXTREMELY sensitive to voltage - more than any other
radio I have seen. It needs 13.8 - 14.8 volts or else it is not happy.
Even the two IC-7000's in my mobiles will not put out full power until
the motor is running and the alternator kicks in at 14.4 volts (they
will typically give me 60 watts with just the battery)

73
John

On 20 Dec 2012, at 7:42 PM, George <george.smart1@...> wrote:

Hi All.

I have had an Icom IC-7000 for over a year now, having bought it second hand. Today I went to use the for a few SSB QSOs on 20 metres when I realised I couldn't get more than 40 watts out.

Initially I thought that the PA amp may be at fault, but after playing around some more, I learned that the power I get varies wildly with band. Setting the radio to 100% power out, I get the following measured powers with a Bird Thruline into a dummy load:

- 160 metres, 1 watt.
- 80 metres, 1 watt.
- 40 meters, 10 watts.
- 20 metres, 40 watts.
- 12 metres, 60 watts.
- 10 metres, 90 watts.
- 6 metres, 30 watts.
- 2 metres, 49 watts (fine).
- 70 cms, 37 watts (fine).

It seems the issues are in the HF PA, i.e. anything on Antenna 1. I'm not sure what the issue is. I think something like a capacitor gone down, or a relay stuck? I'm not sure.

Any help would be greatly received.

Thanks in advance.
George Smart, M1GEO.





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Strange issues with output power

George
 

Hi All.

I have had an Icom IC-7000 for over a year now, having bought it second hand. Today I went to use the for a few SSB QSOs on 20 metres when I realised I couldn't get more than 40 watts out.

Initially I thought that the PA amp may be at fault, but after playing around some more, I learned that the power I get varies wildly with band. Setting the radio to 100% power out, I get the following measured powers with a Bird Thruline into a dummy load:

- 160 metres, 1 watt.
- 80 metres, 1 watt.
- 40 meters, 10 watts.
- 20 metres, 40 watts.
- 12 metres, 60 watts.
- 10 metres, 90 watts.
- 6 metres, 30 watts.
- 2 metres, 49 watts (fine).
- 70 cms, 37 watts (fine).

It seems the issues are in the HF PA, i.e. anything on Antenna 1. I'm not sure what the issue is. I think something like a capacitor gone down, or a relay stuck? I'm not sure.

Any help would be greatly received.

Thanks in advance.
George Smart, M1GEO.


Re: [IC-7000] SWR not working.

 

Is the SWR meter still visible but not showing a reading?



From: ic7000@... [mailto:ic7000@...] On Behalf Of
baulard69
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:25 AM
To: ic7000@...
Subject: [IC-7000] SWR not working.





Hi,

My swr meter on the rig stopped working a while ago on all HF bands. I
checked in all manuals and menus to find out if there was a swr meter
disabling option but nothing.

Is my rig faulty or am I missing something?

Thank you for your help!

73!!


Re: [IC-7000] SWR not working.

Tom Kohli
 

You might try a full reset if all else fails.

WA4TE. 73's. Tom

On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "baulard69" <georges@...> wrote:

Hi,

My swr meter on the rig stopped working a while ago on all HF bands. I checked in all manuals and menus to find out if there was a swr meter disabling option but nothing.

Is my rig faulty or am I missing something?

Thank you for your help!

73!!


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Re: [IC-7000] IC-7000 with MP1 SuperStick Portable Antenna

Jack Spitznagel
 

Edson, All,

I have used my MP-1 with both the IC-7000 and my FT-817 with great success as a portable. I have used it a few times on a trailer hitch on my car and it worked well on higher frequencies. I have never tried it below 20M as a mobile antenna.

Jack Spitznagel, KD4IZ

On Dec 19, 2012, at 16:11, "py2etc" <py2etc@...> wrote:

Hi,
I'm interested in this portable antenna (MP1 SuperStick Portable Vertical) to use when on trip.
Anybody have this antenna using with IC-7000 ? Could give me an opinion ?

Other option is ATX-Walkabout, but this one is just for QRP operation and MP1 accept 100W without problems.

Thanks.

Edson Tandello Cruz - PY2-ETC - Brazil



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IC-7000 with MP1 SuperStick Portable Antenna

 

Hi,
I'm interested in this portable antenna (MP1 SuperStick Portable Vertical) to use when on trip.
Anybody have this antenna using with IC-7000 ? Could give me an opinion ?

Other option is ATX-Walkabout, but this one is just for QRP operation and MP1 accept 100W without problems.

Thanks.

Edson Tandello Cruz - PY2-ETC - Brazil


Re: IC700 and THP HL550FX

 

The ALC cable would have its center pin connected to ACC-6 (blue) and shield to ACC-2 (red).

The STBY cable whould have its center pin connnected to ACC-3 (orange) and shield to ACC-2 (red which is ground) [NOT to gray which is 13.8 VDC].

The HL550FX manual and spec sheet does not speciify the current draw of its T/R relay. But they do mention they are minature high speed Panasonic relays, which are all under 100 ma. (>40 ma. typical), well under the 7K's spec of 200 ma.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@..., Richard Wiklund <richard@...> wrote:

I'd like to use my THP 550 watt amp with my Icom 7000. The diagram on page 21 of the Icom 7000 manual is not very clear. The amp has the ALC and STBY inputs, as shown in the diagram. And I have the13 wire cable supplied with the IC7000. Connecting the blue wire to the ALC is clear. The THP manual says, ""Connect the control cable from the ACC terminal (or SEND, TX GND etc.) of the transceiver. The center pin is to be shorted to ground through the relay circuit of the transceiver." Does the IC7000 have an internal relay? Do I connect the orange HSEND cable to the center pin of an RCA cable and the gray to the shield? Appreciate any help. Dick, K1MGH


Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

williamkb1
 

Where id you get a chance to play with it?

73 Will
KB1PXU
--- In ic7000@..., Andrew Squires <asquires@...> wrote:


IC700 and THP HL550FX

Richard Wiklund
 

I'd like to use my THP 550 watt amp with my Icom 7000. The diagram on page 21 of the Icom 7000 manual is not very clear. The amp has the ALC and STBY inputs, as shown in the diagram. And I have the13 wire cable supplied with the IC7000. Connecting the blue wire to the ALC is clear. The THP manual says, ""Connect the control cable from the ACC terminal (or SEND, TX GND etc.) of the transceiver. The center pin is to be shorted to ground through the relay circuit of the transceiver." Does the IC7000 have an internal relay? Do I connect the orange HSEND cable to the center pin of an RCA cable and the gray to the shield? Appreciate any help. Dick, K1MGH


SWR not working.

 

Hi,

My swr meter on the rig stopped working a while ago on all HF bands. I checked in all manuals and menus to find out if there was a swr meter disabling option but nothing.

Is my rig faulty or am I missing something?

Thank you for your help!

73!!


Re: IC-7000 Power Output Dropping Off

CharlesC
 

FWIW --

If you're using the IC-718 mic input, you should have the IC-7000 MIC GAIN turned way down -- maybe 10, out of 100.

If you're using the IC-7000 microphone input, you woould get better results using either the "DATA" jack (6-pin mini-DIN) or the "MOD" input on the 13-pin DIN jack. They both take signals in the 500 millivolt range, which most soundcards can comfortably deliver.

ALC -- _any_ ALC -- usually means that PSK31 signals are being slightly distorted. It's fine for RTTY, though.

Sorry if this repeats previous responses --

. . . Charles VA7CPC

--- In ic7000@..., "kf5rgb" wrote:

Found the answer to my problem this weekend by fooling around and adjusting the output attentuation level in DM780 to its highest setting. Transmit power stays pretty steady now allthough I still show a couple small bars on the ALC meter on the radio, I havent had any complaints. Apparently my soundcard in my computer is extremly sensitive and by adjusting the output attentuation level to it highest setting its more easily controlled.


Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

Andrew Squires
 

Had a play with a 7100 last week and would not be so quick to write it off. It was a very well thought out radio. Love my IC7000 and had similar feelings as Dave AD7DB. I think just wait till you have a play and make your mind up. The operating system is similar to the 9100 series. Unfortunately the unit would not TX so did not get a chance of a contact.
73 Andy
VK3AS


[IC-7000] Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

 

I agree ...

All of my vehicles are heavily modified for off-road use as well. Using a touch screen on rough roads or off-road would surely be an issue.

I also find most Touch Screens to be finicky ... and a small touch screen is probably not the very safe to use in a moving vehicle. I think the lack of a color screen will only make it even more difficult to decipher the data at a glance.

I have my rig setup with the radio in the rear of my Land Cruiser mounted to a toolbox where it gets very good ventilation. The control head is mounted on a Ram Mount System that is bolted to the floor and it is positioned very well for use while mobile. I find this very easy to use while driving. The external Icom SP-22 speaker is mounted facing me and it provides very good audio.

Looking at the photos, the ergonomics of the 7100 control head just do not seem to work for mobile use. It also seems to be a bit large for mounting in a vehicle in a way that does not interfere or crowd your space.

I am very happy with my 7000 and plan to purchase two (2) more for my other vehicles. I want the identical setup in each vehicle so in an emergency, anyone in the household can use any truck, any time without a learning curve.

--- In ic7000@..., "The Simpsons" <grant@...> wrote:

The ergonomics of the 7100 are all wrong for me as a mobile user.
My IC7000 control head is mounted face up on the centre console just behind
the gear lever. I have a remote 4" monitor on top of the dash for the
display. This way I can keep my eyes on the road and operate the controls by
feel. My arm rests on the centre arm rest and so makes controlling the radio
very easy.
The angled display would not allow me to do this. Also, the touch screen
would be very difficult to use without looking at it so not happy about the
safety issues doing that. I use my mobile a lot on rough roads (or off road)
so having to reach for the controls on a dash mounted control head would be
difficult and touch screens almost impossible to use without stopping first.
I need the separate head but with a separate (from the controls) screen. I
will be keeping my IC7000. Maybe a 7100 with a flat non touch display and a
remote display option instead of the angled set up should be considered by
Icom. It wouldn't have to be a colour screen though that does help with all
the information available on the IC7000 screen.

Grant, ZL2BK.


[IC-7000] Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

 

I agree ...

All of my vehicles are heavily modified for off-road use as well. Using a touch screen on rough roads or off-road would surely be an issue.

I also find most Touch Screens to be finicky ... and a small touch screen is probably not the very safe to use in a moving vehicle. I think the lack of a color screen will only make it even more difficult to decipher the data at a glance.

I have my rig setup with the radio in the rear of my Land Cruiser mounted to a toolbox where it gets very good ventilation. The control head is mounted on a Ram Mount System that is bolted to the floor and it is positioned very well for use while mobile. I find this very easy to use while driving. The external Icom SP-22 speaker is mounted facing me and it provides very good audio.

Looking at the photos, the ergonomics of the 7100 control head just do not seem to work for mobile use. It also seems to be a bit large for mounting in a vehicle in a way that does not interfere or crowd your space.

I am very happy with my 7000 and plan to purchase two (2) more for my other vehicles. I want the identical setup in each vehicle so in an emergency, anyone in the household can use any truck, any time without a learning curve.

--- In ic7000@..., "The Simpsons" <grant@...> wrote:

The ergonomics of the 7100 are all wrong for me as a mobile user.
My IC7000 control head is mounted face up on the centre console just behind
the gear lever. I have a remote 4" monitor on top of the dash for the
display. This way I can keep my eyes on the road and operate the controls by
feel. My arm rests on the centre arm rest and so makes controlling the radio
very easy.
The angled display would not allow me to do this. Also, the touch screen
would be very difficult to use without looking at it so not happy about the
safety issues doing that. I use my mobile a lot on rough roads (or off road)
so having to reach for the controls on a dash mounted control head would be
difficult and touch screens almost impossible to use without stopping first.
I need the separate head but with a separate (from the controls) screen. I
will be keeping my IC7000. Maybe a 7100 with a flat non touch display and a
remote display option instead of the angled set up should be considered by
Icom. It wouldn't have to be a colour screen though that does help with all
the information available on the IC7000 screen.

Grant, ZL2BK.


Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

 

I consider the new IC7100 a great "arm chair" transceiver.

-Tom, W3TLN


Re: [IC-7000] Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

 

The ergonomics of the 7100 are all wrong for me as a mobile user.
My IC7000 control head is mounted face up on the centre console just behind the gear lever. I have a remote 4" monitor on top of the dash for the display. This way I can keep my eyes on the road and operate the controls by feel. My arm rests on the centre arm rest and so makes controlling the radio very easy.
The angled display would not allow me to do this. Also, the touch screen would be very difficult to use without looking at it so not happy about the safety issues doing that. I use my mobile a lot on rough roads (or off road) so having to reach for the controls on a dash mounted control head would be difficult and touch screens almost impossible to use without stopping first.
I need the separate head but with a separate (from the controls) screen. I will be keeping my IC7000. Maybe a 7100 with a flat non touch display and a remote display option instead of the angled set up should be considered by Icom. It wouldn't have to be a colour screen though that does help with all the information available on the IC7000 screen.

Grant, ZL2BK.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Bartholomew
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:27 AM
To: 7000 Group
Subject: [IC-7000] Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

I'd rather have the 7000's color display and have the control head on the radio. More stable that way. Although there are a lot of D-Star systems around here I am still undecided on whether it's worth the extra cost; for me the VHF/UHF on this radio would be for SSB, satellites, JT65 etc rather than FM repeaters (which I already have other radios for). I'm told receiver sensitivity may be better on the new radio though.

The 7000 didn't replace the 706 series right away. But there were some pretty good close outs on new 706's when they finally stopped making them. Give a couple years after the new radio is out and they may do the same with the 7000.

Dave AD7DB
2a. IC 7100 vs 7000
Posted by: "williamkb1"wbern@... williamkb1
Date: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:04 pm ((PST))

Lot's of discussion about the 7100. I'm wondering what the destiny will be for the 7000. I'm really surprised that the display on the 7100 is not in color. Also with the must be detached faceplate I'm not sure that will work for everyone unless it will be used for mobile only.

Wondering what your thoughts are on the future of the 7000. Do you think it will be phased out by the 7000?

73
Will
KB1PXU


[IC-7000] Re: IC-7000 Power Output Dropping Off

kf5rgb
 

Found the answer to my problem this weekend by fooling around and adjusting the output attentuation level in DM780 to its highest setting. Transmit power stays pretty steady now allthough I still show a couple small bars on the ALC meter on the radio, I havent had any complaints. Apparently my soundcard in my computer is extremly sensitive and by adjusting the output attentuation level to it highest setting its more easily controlled.


Re: IC 7100 vs 7000

 

I'd rather have the 7000's color display and have the control head on the radio. More stable that way. Although there are a lot of D-Star systems around here I am still undecided on whether it's worth the extra cost; for me the VHF/UHF on this radio would be for SSB, satellites, JT65 etc rather than FM repeaters (which I already have other radios for). I'm told receiver sensitivity may be better on the new radio though.

The 7000 didn't replace the 706 series right away. But there were some pretty good close outs on new 706's when they finally stopped making them. Give a couple years after the new radio is out and they may do the same with the 7000.

Dave AD7DB
2a. IC 7100 vs 7000
Posted by: "williamkb1"wbern@... williamkb1
Date: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:04 pm ((PST))

Lot's of discussion about the 7100. I'm wondering what the destiny will be for the 7000. I'm really surprised that the display on the 7100 is not in color. Also with the must be detached faceplate I'm not sure that will work for everyone unless it will be used for mobile only.

Wondering what your thoughts are on the future of the 7000. Do you think it will be phased out by the 7000?

73
Will
KB1PXU


Re: [IC-7000] IC 7100 vs 7000

 

Le 16/12/2012 15:58, williamkb1 a ¨¦crit :
Lot's of discussion about the 7100. I'm wondering what the destiny will
be for the 7000. I'm really surprised that the display on the 7100 is
not in color. Also with the must be detached faceplate I'm not sure
that will work for everyone unless it will be used for mobile only.

Wondering what your thoughts are on the future of the 7000.
Do you think it will be phased out by the 7000?
The color of the screen is not a problem... but the screen may be a
problem :
- If you lost the screen on IC7000, you can use a little external screen ;
- If you lost the screen on IC7100, no external screen.

Touch screens are fragile in addition (I had itat work...poor reliability)

Best regards,
Ludovic Vuillermet - F5PBG


Re: LDG IT-100 Tuner for the IC-7000

 

Lawrence,

I'm using that tuner since the beginning and I can only say good thing about them (because I've two). One for my IC-7000 and another one for my IC-7200 which is my 100W backup system placed into a Pelican suitcase.

You can see the installation system here:



I use the IT-100 with the Chameleon HYBRID on my balcony:


73
-C