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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Jerry Keller - K3BZ
 

May we know your name and callsign milady?

73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC


From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>

Hi Howard and the Group:

Howard(VE3GFW/K6) wrote:

The one positive note is now that those two houses are further down
the mountain my propagation to the SouthWest is much less obstructed....
Howard, it looks like your neighbors loss is your gain. Why not greet your
neighbors and thank them?
Tom, I don't think Howard has a death wish that big. An offer of some
sympathy and some cups of coffee might be worth it. There is NO hint
of a smidgen of insurance coverage for this sort of disaster unless
they paid really heavily for it. As to WHY they built there given the
risks - damifino. I shake my head at it. People build in old river
courses, on the edge of cliffs often overhanging the cliff, in the
Mississippi flood plain, and even right next to "The Big One's" fault
line (like feet away and in some cases straddling.) Humanity is quite
fascinating to watch if you can manage some detachment from the scene.
{^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm
to vicious when riled. {O,o}
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

Jerry Keller - K3BZ
 

When the first IC-7000 (or 700 or whatever) is actually delivered, let me know 8^)

73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



Thanks for the support Joanne and Jerry....

My house made the national news tonite... at least the outlets of my new
drain pipes where I am pumping torrents of water from the mountain did.. and
so did the huge 100'+ cranes holding up the houses below me....Since the
cranes are already here, I wonder if I could talk them into letting me
borrow the cranes for a few minutes and turn them 180 degrees to install my
MonstIR...Now that the torrential rains seem to be subsiding, I am sure
those houses won't move that much further down the mountain while we install
antennas.....

My XYL says I have a one track mind.. while the whole mountain around us
seems to be sliding down into the sea, all I can think about is how to get
the MonstIR on top of my 85' tower...and the one positive note is now that
those two houses are further down the mountain my propagation to the
SouthWest is much less obstructed....

As I said previously I put an IC-7000? on order at HRO today just for the
fun of it... and partially to stoke the 'guy thing' envy of those who
consider themselve to be "gentlemen"..

Don't know what it is going to cost, don't know what it is, but it should be
fun to have the first one.. what ever it is....

While some of the technical speculation on this reflector makes sense and
may even be read by Icom, a lot of the speculation on the price point is
inane to say the least...

I guess the part I find the most difficult is the continual questions about
the unit when all the information that anyone has is the brief 1 page
description in the French Magazine.. that's all the information there is
right now.. PERIOD

So why bother asking questions about the unit.. when nobody knows anymore
than you do?

Reminds me a lot about Wall Street, where everyone asks everyone else about
the latest rumor... when in fact no one you ask knows anything...and those
who actually might know something are never going to tell you...
__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"





----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



Any ham that would build a tower... for a HUGE new SteppIR MONSTIR yagi
beam...way up on top of a
hill...while homes all around are sliding down with mudflows... in the
middle of non-stop
record-breaking torrential rainstorms...can't be ALL bad 8^)
GO - HOWARD!!

I'm kinda enjoying all this hoopla about the (so far) phantom IC-7000!!

with all the very best, 73.... Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



I know Howard from nattering with him in email on the side. "I'd be
willing to introduce him to my mother," so to speak. He seems like a
gentleman. The "feeding frenzy" seems to strike him differently than
me. I find it mostly amusing. I must say ICOM has built up some very
nice customer loyalty. For all that I may cavil about the faults in
my ProII I am quite pleased with it. (I just wish it was incrementally
better in a few places that should not have cost anything to implement.
One gripe probably cost the money of writing some dozen EXTRA lines of
code in the DSP ROM. {^_-} The RF engineer in me is very fussy about
this sort of thing.)

{^_^} Anyway, W6MKU is not offended. And I hope others are not. I
do suspect that getting a life is a good idea, though. Holding
your breath until this 7000 puppy is available could be fatal.
{^_-}
----- Original Message -----
From: "MKM" <mab2000@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: 2005 February, 26, Saturday 18:48
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



This group is all Gentlemen here.

Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please
take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here.


On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote:

Joanne:

All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not
exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some
alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the
price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter
configurations, etc. etc. etc..

Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are
only wasting bandwidth...

Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less likely)

I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000

FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to
HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one

.. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
.... whatever it turns out to be!

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?


From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...>
>
> How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will
not
> be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
> IC-706mkiiG.

Infinite dollars today.

> Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English
upload
> says that optional filters are neither available or required.
Just
> how many software filters can be configured at once on the
IC-7000?
> Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?

DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.

> Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
> IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?

It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
not production.

{^_-} W6MKU


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Re: Howie on the Hill.......with a crane..........OFF TOPIC

Tom
 

Hi Howard and the Group,

Howard wrote:

The irony is that the ones with the biggest damage are on safari in South
Africa and don't know yet it has happened...
I that case, Howard, I would try to find out when your neighbor is just
arriving and be there. I would stand a cubit's distance and greet your
neighbor. Shake his hand and thank your neighbor for your new ham radio
coverage and the use of the crane which you will borrow to put up your
antenna. Closeness counts at a time like this.

Tom
San Diego, CA
KE6YNH, 73





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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Dr. Howard S. White
 

Joanne:

We all know you are a lady and I would take you home to meet my "mother"

You are right about no insurance coverage...I read my policy and was shocked
that I was not covered for earth movements...even with earthquake
insurance..from what my neigbours are saying, the insurance companies do not
even return their calls...

Fortunately so far. I am on the right side of the street and now we have a
better ocean view....

Nearest major fault is at the bottom of this mountain...less than a mile
from here...California uses valleys caused by the earthquake fault lines to
build the Interstates and bridges.... its too dangerous to put buildings on
them...

..... In spite of all that land around here goes for about $4 - 6 MM per
acre....Go figure..

Why build.. the ocean view is great, especially if the houses in front of
you slide down the mountain.. the weather is fabulous 350 -360 days a year
(sunny 72F - 22C every day) and disasterous for about 5 -15 days... so you
forget easily...

They let me have a building permit for an 85' tower.. so it can't be that
bad.. and with the disasterous days (Floods, Fires, Earthquakes, Landslides)
its a great place to practice Ham Radio EMCOMM because we really are
needed...

Makes it easy to justify buying the IC-7000 as every vehicle should be
equiped with mobile HF, VHF and UHF communications for EMCOMM.

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC



From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>

Hi Howard and the Group:

Howard(VE3GFW/K6) wrote:

The one positive note is now that those two houses are further down
the mountain my propagation to the SouthWest is much less
obstructed....

Howard, it looks like your neighbors loss is your gain. Why not greet
your
neighbors and thank them?
Tom, I don't think Howard has a death wish that big. An offer of some
sympathy and some cups of coffee might be worth it. There is NO hint
of a smidgen of insurance coverage for this sort of disaster unless
they paid really heavily for it. As to WHY they built there given the
risks - damifino. I shake my head at it. People build in old river
courses, on the edge of cliffs often overhanging the cliff, in the
Mississippi flood plain, and even right next to "The Big One's" fault
line (like feet away and in some cases straddling.) Humanity is quite
fascinating to watch if you can manage some detachment from the scene.

{^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm
to vicious when riled. {O,o}





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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Dr. Howard S. White
 

Tom

The irony is that the ones with the biggest damage are on safari in South
Africa and don't know yet it has happened...

And there is NO INSURANCE COVERAGE for Acts of G_D

Would love to have one of those Monstir Cranes to stick an antenna on...the
big one must be 150' and it cranks up and rotates....

I am waiting for someone in the neighborhood to blame everything on my new
tower....

Now if the North East side of the mountain would give way a bit in the right
direction I would have perfect propagation to Europe without have to extend
my tower....
__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC



Hi Howard and the Group:

Howard(VE3GFW/K6) wrote:

The one positive note is now that those two houses are further down
the mountain my propagation to the SouthWest is much less obstructed....
Howard, it looks like your neighbors loss is your gain. Why not greet your
neighbors and thank them?

Tom
KE6YNH, 73
San Diego, CA






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Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

jdow
 

From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>

Hi Howard and the Group:

Howard(VE3GFW/K6) wrote:

The one positive note is now that those two houses are further down
the mountain my propagation to the SouthWest is much less obstructed....
Howard, it looks like your neighbors loss is your gain. Why not greet your
neighbors and thank them?
Tom, I don't think Howard has a death wish that big. An offer of some
sympathy and some cups of coffee might be worth it. There is NO hint
of a smidgen of insurance coverage for this sort of disaster unless
they paid really heavily for it. As to WHY they built there given the
risks - damifino. I shake my head at it. People build in old river
courses, on the edge of cliffs often overhanging the cliff, in the
Mississippi flood plain, and even right next to "The Big One's" fault
line (like feet away and in some cases straddling.) Humanity is quite
fascinating to watch if you can manage some detachment from the scene.

{^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm
to vicious when riled. {O,o}
Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Tom
 

Hi Howard and the Group:

Howard(VE3GFW/K6) wrote:

The one positive note is now that those two houses are further down
the mountain my propagation to the SouthWest is much less obstructed....
Howard, it looks like your neighbors loss is your gain. Why not greet your
neighbors and thank them?

Tom
KE6YNH, 73
San Diego, CA






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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

 

<< This group is all Gentlemen here >>

There is also at least one Lady who posts regularly.

I saw no problem in Howard's posting - but as I remarked earlier, I see no
harm in
a healthy dose of speculation either. The whole IC-7000 concept is still a
matter of conjecture to some degree, until a product announcement appears on
an Icom website.

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group




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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

Dr. Howard S. White
 

Thanks for the support Joanne and Jerry....

My house made the national news tonite... at least the outlets of my new
drain pipes where I am pumping torrents of water from the mountain did.. and
so did the huge 100'+ cranes holding up the houses below me....Since the
cranes are already here, I wonder if I could talk them into letting me
borrow the cranes for a few minutes and turn them 180 degrees to install my
MonstIR...Now that the torrential rains seem to be subsiding, I am sure
those houses won't move that much further down the mountain while we install
antennas.....

My XYL says I have a one track mind.. while the whole mountain around us
seems to be sliding down into the sea, all I can think about is how to get
the MonstIR on top of my 85' tower...and the one positive note is now that
those two houses are further down the mountain my propagation to the
SouthWest is much less obstructed....

As I said previously I put an IC-7000? on order at HRO today just for the
fun of it... and partially to stoke the 'guy thing' envy of those who
consider themselve to be "gentlemen"..

Don't know what it is going to cost, don't know what it is, but it should be
fun to have the first one.. what ever it is....

While some of the technical speculation on this reflector makes sense and
may even be read by Icom, a lot of the speculation on the price point is
inane to say the least...

I guess the part I find the most difficult is the continual questions about
the unit when all the information that anyone has is the brief 1 page
description in the French Magazine.. that's all the information there is
right now.. PERIOD

So why bother asking questions about the unit.. when nobody knows anymore
than you do?

Reminds me a lot about Wall Street, where everyone asks everyone else about
the latest rumor... when in fact no one you ask knows anything...and those
who actually might know something are never going to tell you...
__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



Any ham that would build a tower... for a HUGE new SteppIR MONSTIR yagi
beam...way up on top of a
hill...while homes all around are sliding down with mudflows... in the
middle of non-stop
record-breaking torrential rainstorms...can't be ALL bad 8^)
GO - HOWARD!!

I'm kinda enjoying all this hoopla about the (so far) phantom IC-7000!!

with all the very best, 73.... Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



I know Howard from nattering with him in email on the side. "I'd be
willing to introduce him to my mother," so to speak. He seems like a
gentleman. The "feeding frenzy" seems to strike him differently than
me. I find it mostly amusing. I must say ICOM has built up some very
nice customer loyalty. For all that I may cavil about the faults in
my ProII I am quite pleased with it. (I just wish it was incrementally
better in a few places that should not have cost anything to implement.
One gripe probably cost the money of writing some dozen EXTRA lines of
code in the DSP ROM. {^_-} The RF engineer in me is very fussy about
this sort of thing.)

{^_^} Anyway, W6MKU is not offended. And I hope others are not. I
do suspect that getting a life is a good idea, though. Holding
your breath until this 7000 puppy is available could be fatal.
{^_-}
----- Original Message -----
From: "MKM" <mab2000@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: 2005 February, 26, Saturday 18:48
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



This group is all Gentlemen here.

Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please
take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here.


On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote:

Joanne:

All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not
exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some
alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the
price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter
configurations, etc. etc. etc..

Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are
only wasting bandwidth...

Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less likely)

I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000

FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to
HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one

.. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
.... whatever it turns out to be!

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?


From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...>
>
> How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will
not
> be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
> IC-706mkiiG.

Infinite dollars today.

> Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English
upload
> says that optional filters are neither available or required.
Just
> how many software filters can be configured at once on the
IC-7000?
> Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?

DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.

> Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
> IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?

It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
not production.

{^_-} W6MKU


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Re: Price check for the IC-7000

MKM
 

Yes, I mean TCXO, sorry about the confusion.

On Feb 26, 2005, at 11:13 PM, Ya`akov N. Miles wrote:


--- In ic7000@..., "vvv333445" <mab2000@v...> wrote:
[snip]
> Well, looking at Universal-radio.com here are the current prices for
the mobile rigs:
>
> IC-706mk2g with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter:
>
> $1,245

Here in Canada you can buy a barenaked IC-706mkiiG for CDN$1199 plus
taxes.? The filters come to approximately CDN$150 each.? I have no
idea what the "HSC unit" is.? If you mean the TCXO high stability
crystal unit part CR-282 it costs me CDN$200-CDN$300 including the
recommended professional Icom installation on my IC-706mkiiG.

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Re: Price check for the IC-7000

Ya`akov N. Miles
 

--- In ic7000@..., "vvv333445" <mab2000@v...> wrote:
[snip]
Well, looking at Universal-radio.com here are the current prices for
the mobile rigs:

IC-706mk2g with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter:

$1,245
Here in Canada you can buy a barenaked IC-706mkiiG for CDN$1199 plus
taxes. The filters come to approximately CDN$150 each. I have no
idea what the "HSC unit" is. If you mean the TCXO high stability
crystal unit part CR-282 it costs me CDN$200-CDN$300 including the
recommended professional Icom installation on my IC-706mkiiG.

73's
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

Jerry Keller - K3BZ
 

Any ham that would build a tower... for a HUGE new SteppIR MONSTIR yagi beam...way up on top of a hill...while homes all around are sliding down with mudflows... in the middle of non-stop record-breaking torrential rainstorms...can't be ALL bad 8^)
GO - HOWARD!!

I'm kinda enjoying all this hoopla about the (so far) phantom IC-7000!!

with all the very best, 73.... Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



I know Howard from nattering with him in email on the side. "I'd be
willing to introduce him to my mother," so to speak. He seems like a
gentleman. The "feeding frenzy" seems to strike him differently than
me. I find it mostly amusing. I must say ICOM has built up some very
nice customer loyalty. For all that I may cavil about the faults in
my ProII I am quite pleased with it. (I just wish it was incrementally
better in a few places that should not have cost anything to implement.
One gripe probably cost the money of writing some dozen EXTRA lines of
code in the DSP ROM. {^_-} The RF engineer in me is very fussy about
this sort of thing.)

{^_^} Anyway, W6MKU is not offended. And I hope others are not. I
do suspect that getting a life is a good idea, though. Holding
your breath until this 7000 puppy is available could be fatal.
{^_-}
----- Original Message -----
From: "MKM" <mab2000@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: 2005 February, 26, Saturday 18:48
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



This group is all Gentlemen here.

Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please
take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here.


On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote:

Joanne:

All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not
exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some
alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the
price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter
configurations, etc. etc. etc..

Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are
only wasting bandwidth...

Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less likely)

I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000

FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to
HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one

.. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
.... whatever it turns out to be!

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?


From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...>
>
> How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will
not
> be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
> IC-706mkiiG.

Infinite dollars today.

> Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English
upload
> says that optional filters are neither available or required.
Just
> how many software filters can be configured at once on the
IC-7000?
> Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?

DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.

> Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
> IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?

It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
not production.

{^_-} W6MKU


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Price check for the IC-7000

vvv333445
 

Well, looking at Universal-radio.com here are the current prices for the mobile rigs:

IC-706mk2g with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter:

$1,245

FT857ND with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter:

$1,140

TS-480 with HSC unit and one CW + one SSB filter:

$1,360

--------------------------------------------

Now, the IC-7000 will not need extra filters and the HSC unit is built-in. If we take the
highest price (Kenwood at $1,360), the IC-7000 being a new radio AND a DSP radio (all
existing radios are analog), you can see or imagine where the msrp and street prices will
be.

-Best
Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

jdow
 

I know Howard from nattering with him in email on the side. "I'd be
willing to introduce him to my mother," so to speak. He seems like a
gentleman. The "feeding frenzy" seems to strike him differently than
me. I find it mostly amusing. I must say ICOM has built up some very
nice customer loyalty. For all that I may cavil about the faults in
my ProII I am quite pleased with it. (I just wish it was incrementally
better in a few places that should not have cost anything to implement.
One gripe probably cost the money of writing some dozen EXTRA lines of
code in the DSP ROM. {^_-} The RF engineer in me is very fussy about
this sort of thing.)

{^_^} Anyway, W6MKU is not offended. And I hope others are not. I
do suspect that getting a life is a good idea, though. Holding
your breath until this 7000 puppy is available could be fatal.
{^_-}

----- Original Message -----
From: "MKM" <mab2000@...>
To: <ic7000@...>
Sent: 2005 February, 26, Saturday 18:48
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



This group is all Gentlemen here.

Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please
take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here.


On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote:

Joanne:

All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not
exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some
alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the
price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter
configurations, etc. etc. etc..

Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are
only wasting bandwidth...

Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less likely)

I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000

FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to
HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one

.. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
.... whatever it turns out to be!

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?


From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...>
>
> How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it will
not
> be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
> IC-706mkiiG.

Infinite dollars today.

> Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English
upload
> says that optional filters are neither available or required.
Just
> how many software filters can be configured at once on the
IC-7000?
> Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?

DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.

> Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
> IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?

It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
not production.

{^_-} W6MKU


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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

MKM
 

This group is all Gentlemen here.

Your remarks are out of line. You should be banned. Moderator, please
take notice and warn this guy or erase him from here.

On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Dr. Howard S. White wrote:

Joanne:

All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not
exist yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter
configurations, etc. etc. etc..

Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are
only wasting bandwidth...

Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less likely)

I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000

FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to
HRO tomorrow and put in an order for one

.. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
.... whatever it turns out to be!

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6? ex-AE6SM? KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

? ----- Original Message -----
? From: jdow
? To: ic7000@...
? Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
? Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?


? From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@...>
? >
? > How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me?? I presume it will
not
? > be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
? > IC-706mkiiG.

? Infinite dollars today.

? > Does anyone know more about the filter options.? Your English
upload
? > says that optional filters are neither available or required.?
Just
? > how many software filters can be configured at once on the
IC-7000?
? > Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?

? DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
? get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
? steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
? setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.

? > Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
? > IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?

? It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
? does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
? not production.

? {^_-}??? W6MKU


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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

Dr. Howard S. White
 

Don't get me wrong.. I already put one on order this AM .... I love to have the first new toys...

I have no idea what I ordered so it will be a surprise when it comes...

Everyone also seems to have forgotten that the US$ is very weak at this time so that prices will much higher than you expect...
__________________________________________________________
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"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: p49k
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: [ic7000] Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
> Hi Howard,
>
I go aloing with Adam,

I'm sure ICOM reads the messages too and the feed back might
be helpful to them.

I find it interesting how Hams repsond to new toys.


P49K


> As the whole IC-7000 concept is speculative at this stage, I see no
harm in
> a healthy dose of speculation. This can often lead to interesting
technical
> discussion, expressions of wishes/hopes for features and
capabilities, etc.
>
> Speculation is encouraged - with the usual caveat that civil and polite
> discourse is expected. (The alternative to same will simply not be
> tolerated.)
>
> Best 73,
> Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
> Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr. Ho
ward S. White [mailto:drpaper@m...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 01:39
> To: ic7000@...
> Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
>
>
>
> Joanne:
>
> All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist
> yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged
> specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price
will be
> too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc.
> etc..
>
> Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you
are only
> wasting bandwidth...
>
> Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less
> likely)
>
> I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000
>
> FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to HRO
> tomorrow and put in an order for one
>
> .. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
....
> whatever it turns out to be!
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
> "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
> Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
> "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jdow
> To: ic7000@...
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?
>
>
> From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@a...>
> >
> > How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it
will not
> > be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
> > IC-706mkiiG.
>
> Infinite dollars today.
>
> > Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English upload
> > says that optional filters are neither available or required. Just
> > how many software filters can be configured at once on the IC-7000?
> > Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?
>
> DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
> get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
> steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
> setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.
>
> > Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
> > IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?
>
> It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
> does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
> not production.
>
> {^_-} W6MKU
>
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

Dr. Howard S. White
 

You are right,,, except it is a bit tiresome to hear people complaining about prices that don't exist yet...

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Manuel
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



--- "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper@...> wrote:
> All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist
> yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged
> specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price
> will be too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations,
> etc. etc. etc..
> Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you are
> only wasting bandwidth...

I don't really understand the purpose of this group at this point if it is
not to speculate, such as you did on the eventual model number.
73,
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Re: How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?

 

--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Howard,
I go aloing with Adam,

I'm sure ICOM reads the messages too and the feed back might
be helpful to them.

I find it interesting how Hams repsond to new toys.


P49K


As the whole IC-7000 concept is speculative at this stage, I see no
harm in
a healthy dose of speculation. This can often lead to interesting
technical
discussion, expressions of wishes/hopes for features and
capabilities, etc.

Speculation is encouraged - with the usual caveat that civil and polite
discourse is expected. (The alternative to same will simply not be
tolerated.)

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group


-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Ho
ward S. White [mailto:drpaper@m...]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 01:39
To: ic7000@...
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?



Joanne:

All these people must be smoking something.. the product does not exist
yet...except for a brief mention in a French magazine...of some alleged
specs...and yet people are already pricing it, complaining the price
will be
too high or too low, speculating on the filter configurations, etc. etc.
etc..

Get a Life Folks.. IT DOES NOT EXIST YET..Stop speculating... you
are only
wasting bandwidth...

Wait until it is offically announced in Japan (likely)... or Dayton
(less
likely)

I am still betting it wll have a number other that IC-7000

FYI - Like I did for the Pro3 and the SteppIR MonstIR, I am going to HRO
tomorrow and put in an order for one

.. just so I can say I got the first one....(it's a guy thing again)
....
whatever it turns out to be!

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] How much is the IC-7000 going to cost me?


From: "Ya`akov N. Miles" <ve7alq@a...>
>
> How much is the Icom IC-7000 going to cost me? I presume it
will not
> be the same price or lower than what I am paying for my new
> IC-706mkiiG.

Infinite dollars today.

> Does anyone know more about the filter options. Your English upload
> says that optional filters are neither available or required. Just
> how many software filters can be configured at once on the IC-7000?
> Can I have a 250 Hz CW and a 500 Hz CW filter programmed at once?

DSP filters not crystal filters. With dual passband tuning you can
get just about any passband and center frequency in 50Hz and 100Hz
steps respectively as long as it remains below the basic bandwidth
setting for the filter, which is also variable in principle.

> Does the IC-7000 transmitter conk out around 12 volts like the
> IC-706mkiiG, or is it friendlier towards 12 volt batteries?

It does not run on batteries at this time. But that is because it
does not run at all at this time. Apparently it is still in design
not production.

{^_-} W6MKU


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Re: 2M Still 50 watts??????

Paul Manuel
 

--- Larry Coppala <k4sfc@...> wrote:
A side note: My WAG on the price is MSRP $1,400. If it's that much I
won't be buying it until/if the price comes down. I'm on a fixed
income. As I stated before, I figure the Dayton Hamvention is where
the big promotional info will occur.
I also think we will see it under the glass at Dayton. And I hope the
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2M Still 50 watts??????

Larry Coppala
 

Since the spec sheet we are being shown indicates an increase from
20W to 35W on UHF(ref MKIIG), I wonder if the 2M is increased from
the 50W the MKIIG currently has?
A side note: My WAG on the price is MSRP $1,400. If it's that much I
won't be buying it until/if the price comes down. I'm on a fixed
income. As I stated before, I figure the Dayton Hamvention is where
the big promotional info will occur.
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