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Re: Duplicate messages?
I have been getting some but worst of all is that I stop receiving replies forwarded to my email address at home. Then I log on to the newsgroup and see that people are actually answering my questions/replies. Anybody else getting this and if so, how to fix or who to notify to check into it?
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Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc .....5 DIOPTER reading glasses
stefan_trethan
I actually have a trial lens?set, so I went and made up some 5 dipoter reading glasses just to see how it would be. You are right that this could work in a pinch, like pulling out a bee sting or a soldering a quick repair, but I wouldn't want to use them for any length of time.? It's too bad I don't actually understand optics, but I feel there is a limit as to how well you can do with a single lens. Also the distance from the eye to the lens is too short in glasses to get really decent magnification. (Actually I think the magnification effect in glasses might just be an unwanted artefact, because you can't put the lens close enough to the eye, unless you wear contacts.) Sure it does look bigger, but maybe twice or three times, and my face has to be _right_ up against the object to still see sharp. By the way for cheap glasses (reading or prescription) I can recommend It's so great to have dirt cheap (but surprisingly good quality) glasses I can now wear for any work without?fear of damaging them. You can use this link and get $5 off: (I will also get $5 off my next purchase), or just search with google, they usually always have some sort of discount code active. ST On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 4:54 PM Rob via Groups.Io <roomberg=[email protected]> wrote: On this topic of binocular microscopes....... |
Re: Duplicate messages?
Stuart Schaffert
No.? I wonder if you somehow got two accounts.
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On 11/1/2019 8:56 AM, Donald H Locker wrote:
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Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc .....5 DIOPTER reading glasses
On this topic of binocular microscopes.......
I learned a wee bit about high power reading glasses. The ones they sell over the counter have lenses that are defined as 1 or 1.25 or 1.5 or 1.75 or 2 or 2.25 etc all the way up to 3.5 diopters. So.... I asked what the heck is a diopter? and I found that I could mail order up to 7 diopter full size lens reading glasses from READERS.com and a dozen other online glasses stores. SO next ...learn this: EACH DIOPTER SIZE will make things look bigger to you and EACH DIOPTER SIZE will have a closer focal distance from your eyeballs to your hand.... think about reading a book... with 1.5 diopter reading glasses where at arms length the letters on the page are clear...not blurry... but tiny and 2.5 diopter glasses makes everything look bigger ...but the focal length os more like the distance to a computer screen on a desk and 3.5 would be bigger and clear if you huddled over that computer screen.... OR A SOLDERING IRON and then here is where it gets fun.....??? 4 diopter is closer and so big that you CAN solder SMD parts ? and 5 diopter is bigger...but starts pushing the limit of how close you want to put your eyeballs to a soldering iron flux splatter.... so I use 5 more for inspection than soldering. and I also have 6 and 7 diopter glasses.... which make short work of removing a bee sting...... and I use all of them for different bench tasks ....much much more than I use my binocular microsope. There are $25?? Headband Magnifier Headset - Magnifying Visor with 4 Real Glass Optical Lens Plates (1.5X, 2X, 2.5X, 3.5X) that? are cumbersome and I never liked them so perhaps some 5 diopter reading glasses will work for you guys. |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
A good 'scope will be equipped with one adjustable ocular. Even if both eyes are different (but not too much; I think +/-2), you should be able to focus with one eye, then adjust the other eyepiece until both are good. As long as you are the only one using the microscope, the adjustment never (for a few years, anyway) need be changed.
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Donald. -- *Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue () no proprietary attachments; no html mail /\ <> On 2019-11-01 11:08 a.m., stefan_trethan wrote:
With both eyes the same you don't really need to wear the reading glasses, since you can probably just adjust the focus of the microscope. |
Re: This PCB Microscope looks good, I think.
stefan_trethan
Sounds perfect, but even with the .5 Barlow lens you may still sometimes want less. I usually solder with x4 and then flip to x8 for inspection as needed. But you can always get another lens or eyepieces later, the question you need to answer _now_ is if you want zoom. None of my microscopes have that - but I'm hearing mostly good things, and one of these days I think I'm going to pick up a nice used Zeiss or Leica MZ to play with. ST On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 3:59 PM Dave <theschemer@...> wrote: I am studying this one: |
Re: This PCB Microscope looks good, I think.
Dave, This model has the little lever next to the left eyepiece. When using the camera, you'll need to flip the lever to the camera losing viewing with your left eye. Also you'll need a .5 Barlow lens, 2x that comes with it will be too much magnification. 73! Mark KA6WKE Website: YouTube Live!: Author: 4NEC2 The Definitive Guide On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 7:59 AM Dave <theschemer@...> wrote: I am studying this one: |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
stefan_trethan
With both eyes the same you don't really need to wear the reading glasses, since you can probably just adjust the focus of the microscope. You may still want to though, if you need the glasses for other stuff and don't want to take them off all the time. They make special glasses compatible eyepieces for that (higher focal plane, usually have a glasses symbol or H etched into them). Even if one eye needs a different prescription most microscopes allow you to dial in a spherical correction. I have never seen an eyepiece with cylinder correction, but would very much expect they exist as a specialty item.? A good quality stereo microscope can offer the same or better vision as the mantis.? It's just more comfortable and efficient to use.? ST On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 2:32 PM Dave <theschemer@...> wrote:
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Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
I've got several scenarios that I use.? One is that I need to have a field of view big enough to handle a 20x20 144 pin TQFP. That's needed to center and sit on pins.
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Secondly, I need as much of a closeup as possible needed for each individual (or group of 5) pins.? Intermediate settings do individual parts. You do want the closeup if at all possible to look for shorts (don't ask). Ring lights are very very good, and I'd recommend them.? Mine's fiber optics and I use an auxiliary side light.? I'll have to get an LED replacement when the bulb goes or find another bulb (may be easy).? Using it on the lowest setting gives me the proverbial immortal light bulb (a good thing). Mine are american optical made, quite used.? A boom stand is an excellent idea if you can find one. That, and the metcal tips (oddly enough, the finest tip is not all that useful), do well. I'm busy putting together PC boards and writing (rewriting) low level graphics drivers at the moment. Harvey On 11/1/2019 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:
Hi Harvey, how's it going? I have done a crash course yesterday and learned from my early findings that I need distance to work with plenty of access. And that a 0.5 objective lens for a wider view is a good thing to have. I will be searching for a while but not too long. I don't want to have to buy this thing twice after making the wrong decision first. |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
w9ran
I bought the same scope several years ago and am totally addicted to it.?? With the scope I can do any SMT work I need to do, without it was endless frustration.? I find myself using it whenever I need to take a close look at something tiny, and intend to add the video camera option.
You'll develop your own style but having real optics in my opinion greatly facilitates the learning process as the mapping between eye and hand is direct.?? You'll probably need to rig up a suitable work stand to position the board in the field of view. I made one out of scrap wood with a shallow lip around the perimeter that helps to keep parts from flying too far (sometimes) and which is easy to rotate to get the angle I prefer for hand soldering. I also have one of the $40 video scopes with a built-in LCD monitor and I could get by with it if I had to, but I much prefer real optics. 73, Bob W9RAN |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
Dave, You are correct, the view with the camera isn't exactly what you'll see through the eye pieces. The problem is that sliding barrel that's used to attach the camera to the body. I've purchased one of these to fix that problem: . There are plenty of times during a video where I'm working away on a board that's fine in scope view but it's out of the scene with the camera. If you're going the route of using a camera, be sure to get a scope that's Simulview or something like that. Some of the lower end scopes with a camera are listed as trinocular but what they have is a lever that flips the image from an eyepiece to the camera leaving you with just one eye to view what you're working on. 73! Mark KA6WKE Video Blog: Author: 4NEC2 The Definitive Guide On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:13 AM Dave <theschemer@...> wrote: Thanks for the info. I checked out your website and looked at the view. |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
Hi Rob,
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? My PD is 62 as I measured once to get some reading glasses online, so I could use the lenses in an Occulus Rift. I checked out these scopes and they get good reviews. It gives me something to think about. I just know I read that a 0.5 objective lens really makes a big difference on how much (FOV) you can see. And some manufacturers may or may not offer that lens as an option. If I replied twice it is because I didn't see a returned message and I have been replying to all that commented. Thanks, Dave On 10/31/2019 9:47 PM, Rob via Groups.Io wrote:
Do an EBAY search for Binocular Stereo Microscope |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
开云体育Hi Leon, ?? I looked at those too but they seem more expensive that the electronics scopes. I couldn't get their site to come up either. Thanks, Dave On 11/1/2019 5:10 AM, Leon via
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Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
Hi Les,
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? I thought your name was familiar. You are the SheetCam guy. :) I looked at this particular scope initially when I started my research but after more research it seems a 0.5 objective lens would be much better. Is one available for it? Also, thanks for the links and the one to the LED light too. Dave On 11/1/2019 4:36 AM, Les Newell wrote:
I use one of these <> |
Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
开云体育Hi Stefan, ? That Mantis looks great but way out of my price range. My eyes
are fairly functional but I am far-sighted and use reading
glasses. Both eyes are the same so figure 20-20 but far-sighted.
By the way, can you wear reading glasses when using a microscope
or does the scope take away that problem and you just dial it in?
I did enough research not to want a digital microscope for various
reasons. Thanks, On 10/31/2019 11:13 PM, stefan_trethan
wrote:
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