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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...

Laddie Williams
 

Make a swag at it.. .that is a Scientific Wild Ass Guess.!!

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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...


I have no idea, but I'd love to have it! George

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Re: [hammond_zone] question

Carlo Pietroniro
 

1/2'?

the pitches for the 9 drawbars are
16
5 1/3
8
4
2 2/3
2
1 3/5
1 1/3
1

where's the 1/2?


tremulant speed

Carlo Pietroniro
 

my G-100 has a 'tremulant' tab for each of the manuals, and it's a very slight tremolo, just like a pipe organ. Hypothetically speaking of course, is it possible to change the speed?

carlo


Re: [hammond_zone] Yahoo! Quiet?

 

Yeah and get this.
I sent a message @ 5:42 PM EST and it fianily posted 9:56 PM EST. Must be catch up time .

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clifton
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:05 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Yahoo! Quiet?


Just in case anyone has been wondering, Yahoo groups has been off-line for
24 hours for maintenance. It's just come back in the last hour.


Chris Clifton

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 251


> Ken and Diane,
> I am checking the group. It is too quiet and something has happened.
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> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [hammond_zone] leslie 251
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> Somehow, I don't think the tape is going to help it sell. I would have
just
> taken that off! Pretty nice Leslie, though. It still has the back
panels,
> that's rare!
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Leslie

Carlo Pietroniro
 

The Leslie I got is a model 147.

carlo


free leslie

Carlo Pietroniro
 

someone gave me a Leslie tonight.....free!!! They've had it in their garage for a few years, and they wanted to get rid of it. He gave it to me because I'm the only one they know who has an organ. I have no idea what model it is though. Where do I look?

carlo


Mylar Cap business

Brian Williams
 

I have a 1956 B3. I know it has the old wax paper capacitors and it sounds really good. I was wondering if putting mylar caps would make it sound better. If if it would make it sound new and cleaner then how much would it cost to have this done??? How big of a surgery is this?? WHo might be qualified to do it??? I am 19, an engineering major in college, and very limited in my knowledge of electronics. THe most mechanical I have gotten with a Hammond has been from putting new tubes in to installing a new treble driver. Think I am up to the task???? Anybody


Brian

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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob

 

What was the " LIST PRICE " of the B3 when it came out that year?

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Laddie Williams
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob


Truthfully, I don't know.
He has had the B3 in a box for some time and is an aftermarket Hammond/Organ dealer in Orlando, Florida.
He has used it to promote his business, but is moving his business. He will probably put it
on e-bay, but to sell it for the best realistic price to his advantage. He asked me what I thought
it was worth in the market and I told him I was not sure, but that I would ask around. He is
a business man who has a good reputation, but runs his business every day.. I am retired, so
I have time to ask (stupid) questions and collect answers. I also own two Hammonds and might even
buy a third if my wife doesn't put her foot down. I just am interested in what fellow Hammond owners
and lovers think the "right person" would pay for a brand new tone-wheel B3S?
----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob


Laddie,

Where was this found.In a warehouse ????





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Re: [hammond_zone] T500 Noisy amp

Ron Bell
 

Try cleaning all the molex connectors as well.

Ron Bell.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Clifton" <chris@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] T500 Noisy amp


GG,
If the noise gets louder with the expression pedal it's definitely not the
power transistors. Do any other controls affect the noise? Volume soft,
Brilliance, Vibrato, Rhythm Volume? A common cause of noise on the T-500
is
the edge connector on the auto-acc. board. The one on top of the
generator
shelf at your right as you look in the back, see if moving the connector
slightly makes any difference.


Chris Clifton

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Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators

 

All members should become share holders and agree that the minimum number of units built should equil the number of shareholders.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Laddie Williams
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators


It really might be fun to make tone-wheel systems, but it would seem that it should be a business with the
members as stockholders. Whatever, there will come some "ownership." Because there are potentially
more who would be interested, it is adviseable to create a corporation. It is not too expensive to do this in Florida.
It is a "corporate friendly" state. I don't see why the entire system could not be laser driven in its basic design.
----- Original Message -----
From: G6019LPOP@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Tonewheel generators


The wheels are machined as are the gears,brass hubs and steel
shafts.The
bakelite gears look to be pressed or stamped,but may also be machined for
concentricity.The dividers are stamped out in one piece as are the horizontal
supports
with all the alignment nitches.the bushings are Oillite Bronze and are turned
parts.
All can be duplicated with the right tooling but the cost would be up
there.
Would it be worth it?HECK YES! Please respond Imight be interested in
partisipating I'm a machinist,toolmaker by trade.
The Old
Guy

G6019L@...





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New member needs help

 

Dear Hammond Zoners,

I am a fairly new member (about 2 weeks) and I have tried to log into the
site at Yahoo without any results. When I signed up, there was a note on
the page that I would need to verify my e-mail address with a code which
I never received in my confirmation from Yahoo. Can anyone guide me on
what to do to get that confirmation code or any other way to sign in?

I am a Hammond Master Tech and I have been reading, with great interest,
all the messages about again building the old tonewheel generators. I
have always wanted to do something like that or come up with a way to
faithfully duplicate the original electronically. As I have thought
about such a task, I have developed ideas that would be very effective
without sacrificing the original sound. My ideas have been in all areas
of the organ other than the tone generator. I would be interested in any
efforts to reproduce the old tonewheel organs and I would like to be
involved in such a venture.

As far as my qualifications for such a project, I worked closely with the
gentleman at Hammond who was the head of the service department and I
believe he was also involved in product development at one time. Over my
years of working on Hammonds, I developed methods of service and found
ways to rebuild and improve the products. I was often asked by him and
others at Hammond for input as to what I was doing along those lines.
Several things that I was doing or methods that I developed were
incorporated into Hammonds methods and service notes. This is not to
brag but only to state that Hammond Organ Company apparently valued my
capabilities and I was honored to be asked to contribute to such a great
instrument.

Sincerely,
Lyle
Hammond Master Tech


Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob

Ken & Dianne Godfrey
 

Jeff,

That's a good idea. We definitely have more resources to choose from than
Hammond had in the early 30's!

I know a guy in the laser cutting business, too. He doesn't usually do
steel, but he's done up to 1/8" thick plate on occasion. He normally sticks
to wood and plastics.

But, I know another guy with a machine shop who also has a laser and a
water-jet. He cuts steel all the time.

BCV-KG

-----Original Message-----
From: jlc7184@... [mailto:jlc7184@...]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:41 PM
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob


Ken,

Regarding the tonewheels,i don't know if they were stamped even
if they were
you would do it that way today.I have a friend that owns a laser cutting
business.He can cut anything,any size ANY shape.As long as a good
dimensioning is done his programmers can duplicate anything.All work is
cad/cam and is good enough for goverment work.


just my 2 1/2 cents......jeff






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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.

Randall Bush
 

OK, guys, I'll take the fall on this one...Gandert, Doug and I were pulling the provebial leg with each other. Ignore everything we said about dingle arms and udatulator plates. This was all in fun and play with words. So, your Hammond's OK, Gandert. I also wish to apologize to any others who took us seriously.

Raul


From: "Gandert De Boo" <bottomline@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:34:27 +0100

Hi zoners,

Maybe my imagination is to little, but how does this 'dingle arm' look? Where can I find it? My L100 is from 1969/1970. Does it have one at all? And what's to be done with it?
I knbow a lot of questions, but I'm still learnig, you know.

Gandert
----- Original Message -----
From: dug5037
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:17 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Tone Geneator Theory of Operation.


--- In hammond_zone@y..., "Raul de Jalapeno" <raul_de_jalapeno@h...>
wrote:
> Doug:
> A special tool is required to remove the dingle arm. This is
because it's buried under the lower udatulator plate. This tool,
which was Hammon part # B2-02T564, consisted of a stratifed pentagrid
plate modulator that would maintain the algebraic relationship of the
generator coil flux to the magnetic field set up by the nofer
trunnions. With this relationship maintained, the dingle arm can be
withdrawn through the fennel orifice with out fear of excessive skor
motion.

Good News--I found the dingle arm under the plate just as you said
and I bent it slightly while playing a C AUG chord on the upper
manual with all the drawbars out--I could hear the growl increase as
I bent it--I stopped at exactly 15 degrees 30 minutes as measured
with a laser refractor doo-hickey otoscope. This is the optimum
setting for just enough growl and mininum distortion. Be aware that
bending to far will raise the emitter levels of the two torsional
bias transistors to a dangerous level and could result in a complete
meltdown. As with any modification--"your results will vary"

Doug
T582 with a bent dingle that now sounds like a B3
Ain't this fun?
BTW I got a piezo tweeter with dual drivers in one rectangle horn
housing that I am going to wire into my Homemade Leslie to bring out
the key click and sharpen up the percussion--I will not stop until my
ears start to bleed!


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Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 251

 

Harvey Olson says Yes

Ps; Harvey you don't know how many times ive used that Leslie Description Chart. Thank you

Mike Casino

----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] leslie 251


Is a 251 a (2) speed leslie ?????

jeff





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Re: [hammond_zone] Yahoooooo's

 

You have to look like the maytag repairman with out a tie.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Bell
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Yahoooooo's


How does one get to be the"Yahoo! Groups Plumber"??

Any word on Yahoo charging for some of their services?
Cheers,
Ronnie.





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Re: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...

Ron Bell
 

I have read about new B-3's in the box a few times.
One was a 1974 B-3, the asking price was $50,000 US.
A few things to think about, if you take it out of the box it is now just
another B-3. Is the generator gonna spin freely, maybe, maybe not. The
elctolytic caps and filter caps will be as good as any old caps and will
need to be replaced if you want a brand new "sounding" organ resulting in a
non-stock B-3. I have also read there are 25 B-3's in the box tucked away.
The only way this organ will be worth anything is if it stays in its box,
so who the hell would want a box of organ???? Not I. It is a shame to make a
big deal out of an organ that is still in its box, open it up, tune it up
and let 'er rip!!!!!
Cheers,
Ronnie

----- Original Message -----
From: "I.H. Smith" <ugieside@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...


I read it and loved it-- as a reformed baseball card collector, I know
what
"mint condition in the box" can mean...priceless; but in reality, you have
to find the buyer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laddie Williams" <laddieray@...>
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...


I got no response from any zoners about the B3 in the original box.
Maybe
you did not see the question? I asked what the group thought it was worth
and gave the serial number. It is true that the factory carton has never
been opened...correction, it was opened just enough to make sure the box
was
not filled with concrete blocks. Prior to recently, it has not been for
sale, but now it is. I have been asked by the owner to inquire of all you
experts.. .what you reasonably think he should ask and/or what is the most
he can reasonably expect to get. Please advise.

Laddie
----- Original Message -----
From: kcbass1
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 12:58 PM
Subject: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob


I understand the Hamm rep being rude a little bit, when people ask
about my ex wife(B3), I get a little offended because I have a new
wife(New B3). I`m just hoping he was referring "people like you" to
mean hobbyist as opposed to being a institution. I think it`s us
hobbyist that keeping interest in the darn thing alive. Hammond-
Suzuki better wake up and smell the latte`. Don`t they know I would
do just about anything for a one hundred pound B3 with tonewheels and
tubes? Casey






--- In hammond_zone@y..., zakemo@A... wrote:
> Hey Casey,
> Don't hold your breath for those tone wheels. The rep at
NAMM was down
> right rude when I jokingly asked about bringing back the tone
wheels and
> tubes. Made some comment to the effect, "If we did, how would
people like you
> be able to afford them?" Great PR! OHF Bob
>
>
>


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re-voicing my G-100

Carlo Pietroniro
 

my technician said there's a way he can take the "Trompette 8" in the pedal division, and bring it down an octave, to get the "Bombarde 16" found on other models. Actually, he also said he can bring it down 2 octaves if I want it at 32-foot pitch. I know nothing about how this organ works. How is it possible to change the pitch of a stop like that?

carlo


Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob

 

Laddie i could think of worse things to spend your money on.I think hammonds
are well worth your investment.One more won't hurt.


Jeff


Re: [hammond_zone] Re: A B3 in the Original Factory container...

 

LOL Thats a good one ron"A Box of Organ".I can just see myself trying to tell
my wife that i bought a box of organ.BUT i can't open it or play with it.


jeff


Re: [hammond_zone] Re: Looke here: Bob

 

Here's the 64 thousand dollar question.

HOW could anyone have such a sweet piece and NOT PLAY IT.

jeff