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Re: [hammond_zone]
开云体育I was wondering why you were considering a copy
when Hammond have such a full product range? the XB1 or XK2, or even the XM1?
The XB2 was great but its showing its age a little now...especially the
'effects' like Leslie and Vibrato. But if you are on a budget it still an
excellent stage instrument. (although I have seen the XB1 selling for not much
more than a decent used V2 XB2)
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The VK7 is great? if you only use 16,51/3 and
8' drawbars, but is definitely 'nasally on the higher frequencies. The Oberheim
is excellent for full on overdriven rock sound, but lacks the purity of a real
Hammond for those softer solos (whiter shade of pale springs to mind).
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Obviously I am a little (ok..a lot..lol) biased
towards Hammond, I have always owned a Hammond..and it just wouldn't be the same
to have an instrument badged with another brand name. (Imagine owning a Ferrari
with a Ford badge on the rear..haha!) But I am freelance and get to work with
all?kinds of stuff, and try to look at them from a 'sound' and performance
point of view, but I have not found anything that touches the Hammond XK2 for
authentic sound and 'feel'?Its a pity there isn't a two manual version a
bit cheaper than the XB3:(
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Best of luck with your quest..seriously
though..take a good look at Hammond's current single manual
instruments:
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Darren
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Re: [hammond_zone]
开云体育I was wondering why you were considering a copy
when Hammond have such a full product range? the XB1 or XK2, or even the XM1?
The XB2 was great but its showing its age a little now...especially the
'effects' like Leslie and Vibrato. But if you are on a budget it still an
excellent stage instrument. (although I have seen the XB1 selling for not much
more than a decent used V2 XB2)
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The VK7 is great? if you only use 16,51/3 and
8' drawbars, but is definitely 'nasally on the higher frequencies. The Oberheim
is excellent for full on overdriven rock sound, but lacks the purity of a real
Hammond for those softer solos (whiter shade of pale springs to mind).
?
Obviously I am a little (ok..a lot..lol) biased
towards Hammond, I have always owned a Hammond..and it just wouldn't be the same
to have an instrument badged with another brand name. (Imagine owning a Ferrari
with a Ford badge on the rear..haha!) But I am freelance and get to work with
all?kinds of stuff, and try to look at them from a 'sound' and performance
point of view, but I have not found anything that touches the Hammond XK2 for
authentic sound and 'feel'?Its a pity there isn't a two manual version a
bit cheaper than the XB3:(
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Best of luck with your quest..seriously
though..take a good look at Hammond's current single manual
instruments:
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Darren
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Re: [hammond_zone] solton
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solton
Gandert De Boo
开云体育?bout the solton relay click. Of course mine
did it too.?but I solved that?problem. It's not a very easy job. You
have to be very precise. Here's what I did:
At both the ends of the relay bar I put some very
thin cloth (or something soft). This should damp the click.
But it didn't work all the time at my solton. If
this doesn't work try?this:
Turn the relay around (top-> down). now the
doesn't touch??anything at all. Itprobably doen't work at this time.
No you have to bend the relay bar a bit so that it will come closer. This will
come very pricise. Be warned: very precise. I spend weeks before it worked
properly. But it does now. ?If you bend it to far to one side the other
won't work or the motor will?drive the rotot to slow.
Good luck.
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The reason I can't get more treble out of the
solton is that the input doesn't work. I tried the jack input next to the reverb
knob. i was very surprised but with the reverb controlas volume it worked, but
no eq for me. Strange isn't it.
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Re: [hammond_zone] Cycles problem
开云体育Hi Marc,
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thanks for your help, but with this information, my father
might fix the problem I guess... Back in his early days, he used to play
keyboards in a band, and he was the one running around with a soldering iron all
the time, fixing his organ, Rhodes and other member's amps...
He prooved himself on the Hammond I use nowadays... Started as
an old piece of trash... , but now it sounds great, and?inside, it's in
perfect condition.?
With this information, he can finally start to freshen up the
M102, too.?
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Thanks for the advice!
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regards, Wim? ?----- Original Message -----
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Cycles problem
Marc Saint-Félix
开云体育Hey Wim,
Yes, organs from nothern america need a little
modification to play in tune. As you said, you have to convert your 60 Hz clock
motor into 50Hz.?A little while ago I had a french Hammond tech installing
an electronical device?directly into?my B3 for about $300, and it
turns out to be very efficient. It's a lot of money but, in my opinion, there's
no other way arround it. Since you live in Belgium, I can give you the tech's
information if you're interested.
Cheers,
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?Hi everybody,
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A year ago I bought a Hammond M series. Its one of the first
series of it, made in the USA.?Here is how I found out.?When I played
it, it seemed to me that the pitch was not correct. Now I realize that in those
days the Americans used 60 Hz polartity switching, and not?50 Hz, as we do
here in Belgium.?Result: the organ's pitch is lower than it should be.
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Any?help or advice to?tune my M would be
appreciated!
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Re: [hammond_zone] l100
开云体育Oops I forgot a little detail: when you have don't hear the
ground noise anymore during the contact, solder a wire between those two
parts... Then you're done... I did it with my organ, and it still works
fine...!
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Re: [hammond_zone] l100
开云体育Hi Gandert,
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You say you have the Solton T150... I have one like that
too.?A year ago I changed the amp for a tube amp, but the original amp
sounded ok (for a solid state)?but it had a lot more treble response than
the original Leslies, in my opinion. On your solton there
must be a knob "tone control" or "tone", anyway, most of the time?tuning
that one up should do it... ;-)
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As for the motor sounds of your Solton, the only annoying
noise I can hear is a relay click, when you change slow/fast.... Nothing to do
about that... If you consider the Leslie part of the instrument, you don't care
about it any longer! It still is a mechanical instrument... When you record an
oboe, you hear the keyclicks, too, If you see what I mean?
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When you?hear other mechanical noise, try to clean up the
complete Leslie inside and outside (vacuum cleaner, and those little sticks you
use for your ears, for the smaller parts,...) And than lubricate all rotating
parts. On top of the lower rotor, you can see the contact for the lower rotating
speaker ( a small?metal plate which is about 10 cm long). Lift it up and
spray it with contact spray. I use lubrication oil for it...?Works
better?on?my?Solton!?See what works best on?yours... I
have to do it every month, otherwise it starts cracking...
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My?Spinet (M-series), which I don't run through a Leslie
(yet ??), sounds?rather mellow, too, but I'm not quite shure if all the
speakers work... It still needs some repairs... Maybe you should try running the
organ through a normal keyboard amp, and see if you still got the problem... I
was quite stunned when you mentioned the absence of a 16' drawbar... The lower
manual starts from 8', but your upper manual must have a 16' drawbar...
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The hum of your organ probably is some ground noise... The
best thing you can do is to take a piece of electric wire and attach one part to
the grounds of your organ. Then, use the other part to?make contact
with?other?parts of your organ (try every?big metal
part)?That should do the trick...
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Anyway, if you have other questions on the Solton or anything
else in particular... Be my guest!
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Regards!
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l100
Gandert De Boo
开云体育Hi there,
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I recently entered the world of Hammond. I bought a
L122. I like it so far. It's not the best hammond, but at least it's real. I
bought a Solton Leslie too. it looks not as beautiful as a real leslie,
?but is sounds ok.
But I got some little things with my set
up.
Eg. the hammong gives a hum and it doesn't sound
very bright, it's sound like there's some treble missing.
Does someone know if it's possible to add an extra
drawbar to the lower manual, because really miss the 16'
Are there manners to damp the leslie motor
noises?
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Thanks for any solution,
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conclusion
Marc Saint-Félix
开云体育Hey,
I've finally come to the conclusion that Peter is
right : I can get the Leslie standing as close as I want to the organ but NOT
close to the left side.
As bluesB3 did, I thought I should stretch the
Leslie cord to avoid interferences caused by an inductance and a magnetic field.
But actually it's a very low inductance which almost doesn't matter.
I simply didn't think the magnetic field was not
constant all arround the organ though it's obvious now. I'll let the Leslie far
away from the organ, sounds reflexions in the room are a lot better this way.
But now I know there's nothing wrong with both the organ and the
Leslie.
Anyway, thank you all, talking to you is a great
pleasure. You've been very helpfull.
Salut à tous,
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Re: [hammond_zone] a problem never comes alone
Peter D Abrams
"Darren T. Brown" wrote:
hang on a sec..this is ringing bells....i seem to remember somewhereJogged. and duly noted. Thanks Darren! The Mod is to move the leslie over to the right side. Or. wrap the organ in Mu_metal. (A rather leadlike sheet material that shields sensitive equip. from stray electromagnetic fields). I've suggested this before on other forums, and was deservedly chastised, as it was just a joke to begin with, and somebody didn't get it. So Goes Life. later, pda Jax Fl. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] a problem never comes alone
Peter D Abrams
Nota bene - The Matching transformer is mounted to the far upper left
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inside the console, from the players view. It is *very* sensitive to outside fields, most notably the slow motor from a leslie sitting close to the console, to the player's left. Anything (especially an old hammond clock!) will make that thing hum. I would avoid placing anything electrical on or around the left side of the organ. It's kinda like laying a Strat on a breaker box. You get the idea. later, pda Jax Fl. bluesb3 player wrote: question?--- when you have the leslie just a few inches from the organ -to |
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Re: [hammond_zone] a problem never comes alone
hang on a sec..this is ringing bells....i seem to remember somewhere about a
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mod to stop the leslie and the hammond creating interferance if they are too close together. have to do some memory jogging here..anyone else heard that??? ----- Original Message -----
From: "bluesb3 player" <bluesb3@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] a problem never comes alone question?--- when you have the leslie just a few inches from the organ -towhole I'll"input phono" thing. By the way, the distorsion problem seems to be fine Lesliehave a tech check the gear to know for sure what's wrong, I fear the anymore,as far as possible away from the organ, and there's no hum at all but I really wonder what's going on. Any ideas ?_________________________________________________________________ |
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Re: [hammond_zone] a problem never comes alone
bluesb3 player
question?--- when you have the leslie just a few inches from the organ -to store the excess leslie cord- did you wrap it tight around and around itself--- sometimes this can cause a humming noise--note--you said it stopped when you moved the leslie away from the organ-thus you must have streched the leslie cord--- try leaving the leslie close but leave the leslie cord loose---- hope that helps--bluesb3
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a problem never comes alone
Marc Saint-Félix
开云体育Thanx for the tips everyone, I'll let you know what
happens with the whole "input phono" thing. By the way,?the distorsion
problem seems to be fine right know, I haven't done anything yet but now it's
all good! I think I'll have a tech check the gear to know for sure what's
wrong,?I fear the problem will come out again.
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Another thing still bothers me, could you please
tell me if this is a normal phenomenon :
When the Leslie stands right next to the organ (a
few inches away) I can hear a little hum as I play chords. It happens only when
the Leslie is in chorale speed and only when I press?keys. It's the same on
both upper and lower keyboards, and the hum gets louder when drawbars are full
8.
I solved the problem by myself in the most simple
way : I moved the Leslie as far as possible away from the organ, and there's no
hum at all anymore, but I really wonder what's going on.? Any ideas
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Thanx again,
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Marc.
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