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Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year (2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two, and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also, changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My 817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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Hi Walt ? Welcome to the group. Yes, we cover the 818 as well, all models of this wonderful radio. ? Regards, Mark. ?
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Sent: 03 December 2019 01:47
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Subject: [ft817] Just came over from the Yahoo group ? Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year (2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two, and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also, changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My 817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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Hi
You might want to try the low level reset to see if that helps.
The one where you don't loose
everything, it's in the manual.
On another note I have had good luck using Yaesu repair and are
quite reasonable in price.
Just a thought.
Marty kd8bj
On 12/2/19 7:47 PM, Walt M. via
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Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can
still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just
bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year
(2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two,
and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention
it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen
to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at
random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume
and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also,
changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if
something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad
somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My
817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just
the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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I agree with the reset.? But I wouldn’t stop at the low if it didn’t fix it.? I’d be willing to work my way up to the maximum reset.? After all, it sounds like a trip to the repair facility might be next, so go for it. ? Good luck! ? Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas. ? The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep... ? 
? ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble. ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marty Hartwell
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ft817] Just came over from the Yahoo group? Hi You might want to try the low level reset to see if that helps. The one where you don't loose everything, it's in the manual. On another note I have had good luck using Yaesu repair and are quite reasonable in price. Just a thought. ? Marty kd8bj ? On 12/2/19 7:47 PM, Walt M. via Groups.Io wrote: Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year (2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two, and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also, changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My 817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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The 818 is a waste of money.Besides the txco It has a slightly bigger battery capacity & 6 watts output instead of 5.Forget It.
On Tuesday, 3 December 2019, 14:17:55 GMT, Walt M. via Groups.Io <wa7sdy_1@...> wrote:
Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year (2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two, and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also, changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My 817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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Walt,
This is typical of dirty contacts in the headphone jack.? Try inserting a headphone connector several times to help clean the contacts.? It may need a shot of electronic cleaner spray.? Using headphones for a few minutes will help you know that the problem is not with the receiver section.? If all is well on headphones it is likely the jack.
Al
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Mine works great at 10 watts, with no heating IF the SWR is good.?
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:55 AM mdewynter via Groups.Io <mdewynter= [email protected]> wrote: The 818 is a waste of money.Besides the txco It has a slightly bigger battery capacity & 6 watts output instead of 5.Forget It.
On Tuesday, 3 December 2019, 14:17:55 GMT, Walt M. via Groups.Io <wa7sdy_1= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year (2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two, and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also, changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My 817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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Pretty much I agree. The 818 was a huge nothing-burger. The TCXO-9 isn’t necessary unless you’re using micro-wave transverters.? The 6-watt level is a 20% increase in battery drain for about a 1 dB increase in signal strength. And the loss of the 0.5-watt level was a really bad move for those or us who drive transverters. ? HOWEVER, for anyone who does not own an FT-817ND, the FT-818 is the only other option presently available. So while most of us consider it to be inferior to the original, it is still a pretty fair radio. ? I’m holding on to my two FT-817NDs, but I’m waiting patiently to see what that new ICOM looks like.? It just might to what the KX3 failed to do, kill the FT-817ND monopoly. ? Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas. ? The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep... ? 
? ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble. ? ? ? ?
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Subject: Re: [ft817] Just came over from the Yahoo group ? The 818 is a waste of money.Besides the txco It has a slightly bigger battery capacity & 6 watts output instead of 5.Forget It. On Tuesday, 3 December 2019, 14:17:55 GMT, Walt M. via Groups.Io <wa7sdy_1@...> wrote: Hi all. I just came over from Yahoo to join this group so I can still get all the info I need for my 817.
Question...Will this group cover the new FT-818 as well? I just bought one at the SEAPAC Convention in Seaside, Oregon this year (2019).
I know they are practically the same, maybe a menu change or two, and the 818 has the TCXO.
One other item, not sure if I can get help here but I'll mention it anyway. My 817 is having an audio problem. Anything I listen to, does not matter frequency or mode, the audio drops out at random and in glitches, popping in and out. If I turn the volume and squelch thru full range it will sometimes come back. Also, changing frequency tends to clear it as well. So, not sure if something is loose, wearing out, or a circuit is going bad somewhere in the audio chain. Anyone else have this problem? My 817 is a November 2006 ND model. Still works on all settings, just the audio is going bad.
Thanks for being here!
Walt Morey WA7SDY
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Apart from the inexplicable woeful 70cms image rejection and power socket battery drain issues, I can't see why the FT818nd is inferior to the venerable 817 Mike? I totally agree about the 6 watts issue though, leaving the current consumption aside, it moves the radio out of its QRP status. I have a love hate relationship with mine. I love the little thing and wouldn't part with it, but my KX3 has the edge in many ways. Apples and oranges of course!
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The 818 was not so much an upgrade as it is replacement for a
model that replacement parts are or will
not be available for in the near future.? Manufacturers are not
"know it alls" as the uninformed or
non-experience do not understand.? I believe the 818 was what they
came up with that closely
resembled the 817 economically.? As it happened, maybe a few minor
upgrades came with it.
73, Joe, K8JP/K5
On 12/5/2019 2:07 AM, Steve wrote:
Apart from the
inexplicable woeful 70cms image rejection and power socket battery
drain issues, I can't see why the FT818nd is inferior to the
venerable 817 Mike? I totally agree about the 6 watts issue
though, leaving the current consumption aside, it moves the radio
out of its QRP status. I have a love hate relationship with mine.
I love the little thing and wouldn't part with it, but my KX3 has
the edge in many ways. Apples and oranges of course!
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Regards, Joe, K8JP/V31JP, Ronnie, Martin & Sidney Pontek
175 Diamond Loch Rd., Apt. 5
Gilmer, TX 75644-9374
U.S.A.
or
P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
(Hopkins Village) Belize
903-204-2318 (My TX cellular)
903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number, Belize & TX)
Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, SOC 1075, 10-10 22977, PG1915841, CW Rag chewers #21,
Facebook: Joe Pontek
Skype: v31joepalooka
I am looking for Vibroplex Model X and prefer basket case to restore.
LotW
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#1 -They should have left the power alone. ?5w is as good as 6w on the air, but 1w is not as good as 1/2watt when driving any transverter. ? #2 – I’ve heard a KX3 on 6m.? I have neve heard a KX3 on 2m or 70cm.? The 2.5w (measured) 2m board for the KX3 is a joke.? And not once have I ever heard a KX3 in any of the V/UHF contests. ? #3 – the KX3 is a very good radio.? But a 100% replacement to the FT-817 is it not.? And for portable operations in quiet locations the FT-817 is plenty good enough.? Earned stuff like this many times.? ? 
? Just got a 3-ele Yagi for 6m that weighs under 3 pounds.? Can’t wait for the next VHF contest to try it out. ? ? Vy73 – Mike – KD5KC El Paso, Texas – DM61rt ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [ft817] Just came over from the Yahoo group ? Apart from the inexplicable woeful 70cms image rejection and power socket battery drain issues, I can't see why the FT818nd is inferior to the venerable 817 Mike? I totally agree about the 6 watts issue though, leaving the current consumption aside, it moves the radio out of its QRP status. I have a love hate relationship with mine. I love the little thing and wouldn't part with it, but my KX3 has the edge in many ways. Apples and oranges of course!
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This maybe one of the reasons for the 818.? The PA part for the 5
Watts probably became obsolete and
the replacement part just runs a bit more, not for an
improvement.? It was what fit for the budget,
space, heat, power consumption and dollars.? Manufacturing is a
lot more complicated then home
brewing at home.
On 12/5/2019 5:35 AM, Mike Olbrisch
wrote:
#1 -They should have left the power alone.
?5w is as good as 6w on the air, but 1w is not as good as
1/2watt when driving any transverter.
?
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Regards, Joe, K8JP/V31JP, Ronnie, Martin & Sidney Pontek
175 Diamond Loch Rd., Apt. 5
Gilmer, TX 75644-9374
U.S.A.
or
P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
(Hopkins Village) Belize
903-204-2318 (My TX cellular)
903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number, Belize & TX)
Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, SOC 1075, 10-10 22977, PG1915841, CW Rag chewers #21,
Facebook: Joe Pontek
Skype: v31joepalooka
I am looking for Vibroplex Model X and prefer basket case to restore.
LotW
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I have always been told QRP is anything under 10 watts.? Without really investigating, the newer MOSFETs have much lower on resistance and could just be able to deliver 6 watts without any change in design.? I gave my FT817 non ND to my son when I got the 818 for a retirement gift.? I loved the FT 817 so I love this radio.? I use it most of the time.? It is a great radio on PSK and it fits my QRP hobby just nicely.? There is a reason this radio is the most popular of all time regardless if you call it an 817 or 818.? Hey I am just getting to know it without a helper guide.? The only issue I have ever had with mine is it gets really hot in the sun because of the black case.
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I may be old fashioned, but I've NEVER left any electronic device in direct sunlight any longer than absolutely essential.
Any shade is essential.?
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W4HGV, all rules have exceptions and there is at least one to the rule you state (which is a good one).? And that is solar panels.
72/73 DR TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSON
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bo W4GHV < bobarr@...> wrote: I may be old fashioned, but I've NEVER left any electronic device in direct sunlight any longer than absolutely essential.
Any shade is essential.?
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Sometimes that can't be helped like operating from a pontoon boat in the middle of a Minnesota lake or sitting at a picnic table in a park.? It just happens.
Al
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Agreed.? Other than photo-ops, when I operate in the sunlight (and this is West Texas and Southern New Mexico) I sit with my back to the sun, and the radio hung around my neck, hanging down on my chest.? I built a microphone hanger on the neck-strap, and my Porta-Paddle is strapped to my leg.? I try to keep the gear in the shade. ? As a side-note, it is a shame that the guy making the porta-paddle doesn’t answer his E-mail anymore.? I want to adapt a second porta-paddle to Pedestrian Mobile.? I need a part.? When I try E-mailing, I just get crickets. ? 
? ? Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas. ? The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep... ? 
? ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble. ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bo W4GHV
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [ft817] Just came over from the Yahoo group ? I may be old fashioned, but I've NEVER left any electronic device in direct sunlight any longer than absolutely essential.
Any shade is essential.?
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Ahhhh – except that we don’t consider solar panels to be electronic, they are Electrical.? All 2+ kW at my house, and all 110 MW (not mW, MEGA-W) on my system at work. ? Please note, the efficiency of a solar panel is degraded with heat.? We’ll get 110 MW on a bright clear morning, but that falls off to 100 MW ± on a hot sunny afternoon.? Unfortunately, the efficiency is worse if you put the panels in the shade.? <grin>. ? Mike – KD5KC -- El Paso -- Texas. ? The canyons are calling, colorful and deep.? But I have promises to keep. And miles to go still in my Jeep...?? And miles to go still in my Jeep... ? 
? ADVENTURE:? The respectful pursuit of trouble. ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Timothy-Allen Albertson
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [ft817] Just came over from the Yahoo group ? W4HGV, all rules have exceptions and there is at least one to the rule you state (which is a good one).? And that is solar panels. 72/73 DR TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSON ? ? On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:30 AM Bo W4GHV <bobarr@...> wrote: I may be old fashioned, but I've NEVER left any electronic device in direct sunlight any longer than absolutely essential.
Any shade is essential.?
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