Re: I cannot turn off repeater shift mode on ten meters while in usb mode
Hi Mike, ? That doesn’t sound like a repeater shift problem as repeater shift is only operational on FM. ? The shift is only 8.5 kHz so it may, in fact be that the radio is in split mode. Try changing your receive frequency to, say 28.340 and then see what the transmit frequency does when you transmit. ? Also, see if you get the same sort of result on other bands. ? I have an FT857 which has a fault (which I haven’t yet fully diagnosed) whereby it transmits 13 kHz away from the receive frequency. This occurs on all bands and modes. ? Let us know the results of those tests and we can try to diagnose further. ? ?
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Sent: Monday, 17 March 2025 03:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ft817] I cannot turn off repeater shift mode on ten meters while in usb mode? Hi guys: I have a question about my ft817. Yesterday, I was on 28336 on ten meter usb mode. When I attempted to answer a buddy, and I key up the mic, The frequency would shift upwards to transmit on 283445. I looked up the menus to see if repeater shift was on, and I got the following: ? Menu Item 42 [RPT SHIFT] Function: Set the magnitude of the Repeater Shift. Available Values: 0 ~ 99.99 MHz Default: Depends on transceiver version, and the band in use. Each band’s repeater shift (HF/50/144/430 MHz) may be set independently. ? The thing is, when I enter menu 42 and turn the tuning knob to the left to try to get it to 0, then hit hold the function button to get out of the menu, The voice box I have reports nothing. Has anyone else ever encountered this problem? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ?
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Re: I cannot turn off repeater shift mode on ten meters while in usb mode
Hi Andy
when you switch to FM can you then turn off the RPT button ?
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Vy 73 de Martin HB3YDM?
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Re: I cannot turn off repeater shift mode on ten meters while in usb mode
If you press the f key briefly then look for rpt, button a in row 4, I believe that you can turn the repeater function off, not near my 817 at present to? check.
Andy
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Hi Mike I’m interest in the SSB Filter YS122S.
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73 de Martin HB3YDM
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For a CW filter one can get as much as $200, about half what one can get for a used FT817.? But having the filter in the rig will make it sell quicker and for more.
I have the Collins 500 Hz filter in my FT817.? I do need to sell it for dont use, I have the IC705 and X6100.? But I have always liked my FT817, very good QRP rig.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Sunday, March 16, 2025 at 01:37:44 PM EDT, Mike via groups.io <mail@...> wrote:
Thanks Ken, that sounds a sensible approach.
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Mike G8GYW
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Thanks Ken, that sounds a sensible approach.
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Mike G8GYW
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On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 11:34 AM, Mike wrote:
I plan to sell my FT-817ND in the near future as I'm not using it enough to justify keeping it.
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It has all the original accessories including the YF-122C and YF-122S Collins mechanical filters. I can't decide whether to include the filters in the sale or sell them separately.
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Any advice please?
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Mike G8GYW
I've got an FT-897 in a similar situation (full of filters, sitting idle), and my opinion is that while the filters have value outside the radio, and by selling them separately you may maximize your profit, but once the filters sell, you will possibly (probably?) have a hard time selling the FT-817nd w/o filters, as the potential buyer will most likely want the filters.
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In other words, as a package the radio/filters may sell faster, but at a discount to selling them individually, which will likely take longer.
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Good luck,
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I've got an FT-897 in a similar situation (full of filters, sitting idle), and my opinion is that while the filters have value outside the radio, and by selling them separately you may maximize your profit, but once the filters sell, you will possibly (probably?) have a hard time selling the FT-817nd w/o filters, as the potential buyer will most likely want the filters.
In other words, as a package the radio/filters may sell faster, but at a discount to selling them individually, which will likely take longer.
Good luck,
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On Mar 16, 2025, at 11:35, Mike via groups.io <mail@...> wrote:
? I plan to sell my FT-817ND in the near future as I'm not using it enough to justify keeping it.
?
It has all the original accessories including the YF-122C and YF-122S Collins mechanical filters. I can't decide whether to include the filters in the sale or sell them separately.
?
Any advice please?
?
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Mike G8GYW
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I plan to sell my FT-817ND in the near future as I'm not using it enough to justify keeping it.
?
It has all the original accessories including the YF-122C and YF-122S Collins mechanical filters. I can't decide whether to include the filters in the sale or sell them separately.
?
Any advice please?
?
--
Mike G8GYW
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I cannot turn off repeater shift mode on ten meters while in usb mode
Hi guys: I have a question about my ft817. Yesterday, I was on 28336 on ten meter usb mode. When I attempted to answer a buddy, and I key up the mic, The frequency would shift upwards to transmit on 283445. I looked up the menus to see if repeater shift was on, and I got the following: ? Menu Item 42 [RPT SHIFT] Function: Set the magnitude of the Repeater Shift. Available Values: 0 ~ 99.99 MHz Default: Depends on transceiver version, and the band in use. Each band’s repeater shift (HF/50/144/430 MHz) may be set independently. ? The thing is, when I enter menu 42 and turn the tuning knob to the left to try to get it to 0, then hit hold the function button to get out of the menu, The voice box I have reports nothing. Has anyone else ever encountered this problem? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ?
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Fantastic, real-life info there in those charts!?? Thanks for doing that testing and posting the outcomes for everyone!
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Ron,
I second your thoughts about butane powered soldering sets, especially Weller. Have used one for years in my travel and repair kits.
If we believe what we believe Why do we do what we do? ? ?Adrian Rogers
Dave K8WPE
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On Mar 13, 2025, at 8:02?PM, Joseph Wonoski via groups.io <N1khb@...> wrote:
?Ron, ? ?You'll never be sorry if you get a Weller butane soldering iron kit. It works anywhere and is especially good in cold weather for larger items like UHF connectors. Only the Weller one in my opinion though. All the other brands seem to be flame design while the Weller is flameless. JMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.
Joe n1khb? On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 3:32 PM, Ron Wright via groups.io <lt_wright_flg@...> wrote: Greg,
Obviously one would not get one of these power packs to run like a refrig or heater.? I got a 300W unit to run my soldering gun for events like putting together Field Day.? Works great.
Yes, one needs to look at the capacity for your needs.? And many can power a rig like a FT817 and also charge for a long time ones cell phone.? A 300W unit can last a long time.
The point is there are power packs for many portable use that will supply needed power.? Some of these power packs even have wireless charges on top.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 09:04:48 PM EDT, Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Mmmm, careful.? At 88 watt-hours, that's barely more than 7ah at
12v, not counting internal conversion losses.? The inverter may be
able to source 100 or 300 watts, but not for long.? 300 watts from
an 88 watt-hour battery will drain it in something like 15 minutes.?
Of course the FT-817/818 draws considerably less - you'd likely get
5+ hours of use - but there's no Tardis-derived magic here.? Start
plugging other stuff in, and the run time can drop very quickly.
When looking at these "Solar generators", the important spec to look
at is the watt-hour rating of the battery.? The AC output spec is
just for the inverter; it's a limit for how much (peak) power can be
drawn, not for how long.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron Wright via groups.io wrote:
Martin,
Yes there a lots of power
banks that put out USB power and 12VDC power and also 120VAC
power, all in one battery box.? I have 2 with 120VAC output
along with USB and 12VDC outlets.? They come in a verity of
power levels, mine are 100 & 300W.
There are other that can
power a FT817 for hours that put out USB and 12VDC.
Here is one on Amazon.? No
tsure if you need 120 or 240VAC.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 08:05:32 PM EDT, Kevin -
K5KTM via groups.io <ktmullens@...>
wrote:
Nice that it’s multi-use but that thing is huge.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 13:52,
Martin HB3YDM via groups.io
<hb3ydm@...> wrote:
?
Hey Guys?
check your YouTube the channel from Jason
KM4ACK
this last Video bring s greatfully battery
pack.
?
?
?
or when you have an Car Start helper this
tool is also very light.
?
?
Vy 73 de Martin HB3YDM
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Greg KO6TH wrote… You'd be amazed (if that's the right word) at how bad a modified sine wave inverter is. I call them modified square wave inverters! -- 73 Keith VE7GDH
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Yep.? You'd be amazed (if that's the right word) at how bad a
modified sine wave inverter is.? I had a XPower 1kw unit in my
initial semi-off-grid solar system (only because it had been given
to me earlier), and tried it out.? I figured there'd be birdies
sprinkled around.? Not exactly.? Instead I found the entire HF
spectrum - ALL. OF. IT. - was wiped out.? Replaced the XPower with a
500va pure sine wave inverter from Victron, and all has been well.
Some images of the A/C waveforms, attached.? I notice that the
Victron's pure sine wave did distort a bit when loaded down with a
number of switching power supplies (wall warts, etc) that had a bad
power factor, but it didn't seem to be bad enough to affect RF
reception.? Resistive loads had no effect on the waveform.
Enjoy,
Greg? KO6TH
Joseph Wonoski via groups.io wrote:
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You'd probably be very surprised and disappointed if you look at a
modified sine waveform. It's just a series of square top pulses
alternating positive and negative. Same peak voltage as a sine
wave with short duration pulses. I've never scoped a "pure" since
wave inverter. Has anyone here ever looked?
Joe n1khb?
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 4:48 PM, Greg D via groups.io
Hi Ron,
My caution is to not confuse watts with watt-hours.?
Getting a 300w unit only tells you the maximum
instantaneous AC power that the unit will deliver, but
provides no information on how long that delivery can be
maintained.? So saying "A 300W unit can last a long
time" does not make sense.? Watts has no concept
of time; it's watt-hours that matters.
There can be a rough correlation between the higher
power (higher watts) with larger batteries (more
watt-hours), but that's only cursory.? When choosing a
unit, one needs to understand both the maximum output
needed (watts), and total capacity (watt-hours).?
Marketing-savvy manufacturers may couple a large cheap
(modified sine wave) inverter with the smaller battery,
preying on this confusion, with the ad copy focusing on
the former and ignoring the later.? The general public
often doesn't think about the difference, and because of
the lower cost may get a unit that won't meet their
needs.
Interestingly, you will very often find units that offer
88 watt-hours of total capacity or slightly less; I
believe that's the maximum for some international
shipping and airline travel reasons.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron Wright via
groups.io wrote:
Greg,
Obviously one would not get one of
these power packs to run like a refrig or heater.?
I got a 300W unit to run my soldering gun for
events like putting together Field Day.? Works
great.
Yes, one needs to look at the
capacity for your needs.? And many can power a rig
like a FT817 and also charge for a long time ones
cell phone.? A 300W unit can last a long time.
The point is there are power packs
for many portable use that will supply needed
power.? Some of these power packs even have
wireless charges on top.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 09:04:48 PM EDT,
Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...>
wrote:
Mmmm, careful.? At 88 watt-hours, that's
barely more than 7ah at 12v, not counting
internal conversion losses.? The inverter may
be able to source 100 or 300 watts, but not
for long.? 300 watts from an 88 watt-hour
battery will drain it in something like 15
minutes.? Of course the FT-817/818 draws
considerably less - you'd likely get 5+ hours
of use - but there's no Tardis-derived magic
here.? Start plugging other stuff in, and the
run time can drop very quickly.
When looking at these "Solar generators", the
important spec to look at is the watt-hour
rating of the battery.? The AC output spec is
just for the inverter; it's a limit for how
much (peak) power can be drawn, not for how
long.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron
Wright via groups.io wrote:
Martin,
Yes there a lots of power
banks that put out USB power and 12VDC
power and also 120VAC power, all in one
battery box.? I have 2 with 120VAC
output along with USB and 12VDC
outlets.? They come in a verity of power
levels, mine are 100 & 300W.
There are other that can
power a FT817 for hours that put out USB
and 12VDC.
Here is one on Amazon.? No
tsure if you need 120 or 240VAC.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at
08:05:32 PM EDT, Kevin - K5KTM via
groups.io <ktmullens@...>
wrote:
Nice that it’s multi-use but that
thing is huge.?
On Mar
11, 2025, at 13:52, Martin
HB3YDM via groups.io <hb3ydm@...>
wrote:
?
Hey Guys?
check your YouTube the
channel from Jason KM4ACK
this last Video bring s
greatfully battery pack.
?
?
?
or when you have an Car
Start helper this tool is
also very light.
?
?
Vy 73 de Martin HB3YDM
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I'd do it the opposite way. Have a 12vdc? 817 battery with a 12v to usb adapter. There are converters from 12 to 5 volts or an aux power (cigarette lighter plug) to usb.
Mike WA1MAD
I was wondering if it is possible to have a power bank?to charge my phone (while hiking) and also to have it as a backup power source for the?Yaesu.
Not only voltage and current ratings on websites like Amazon are confusing (and probably wrong),?but I'm also insecure if a USB-C to DC cable would?handle the?~2.6 A current the?Yaesu uses to TX?(I use a lot of FT8).?
Is it possible to have a power bank to meet my needs? What kind of criteria should I look for?
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You'd probably be very surprised and disappointed if you look at a modified sine waveform. It's just a series of square top pulses alternating positive and negative. Same peak voltage as a sine wave with short duration pulses. I've never scoped a "pure" since wave inverter. Has anyone here ever looked?
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 4:48 PM, Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Hi Ron,
My caution is to not confuse watts with watt-hours.? Getting a 300w
unit only tells you the maximum instantaneous AC power that the unit
will deliver, but provides no information on how long that delivery
can be maintained.? So saying "A 300W unit can last a long time" does
not make sense.? Watts has no concept of time; it's watt-hours
that matters.
There can be a rough correlation between the higher power (higher
watts) with larger batteries (more watt-hours), but that's only
cursory.? When choosing a unit, one needs to understand both the
maximum output needed (watts), and total capacity (watt-hours).?
Marketing-savvy manufacturers may couple a large cheap (modified
sine wave) inverter with the smaller battery, preying on this
confusion, with the ad copy focusing on the former and ignoring the
later.? The general public often doesn't think about the difference,
and because of the lower cost may get a unit that won't meet their
needs.
Interestingly, you will very often find units that offer 88
watt-hours of total capacity or slightly less; I believe that's the
maximum for some international shipping and airline travel reasons.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron Wright via groups.io wrote:
Greg,
Obviously one would not get
one of these power packs to run like a refrig or heater.? I
got a 300W unit to run my soldering gun for events like
putting together Field Day.? Works great.
Yes, one needs to look at
the capacity for your needs.? And many can power a rig like
a FT817 and also charge for a long time ones cell phone.? A
300W unit can last a long time.
The point is there are
power packs for many portable use that will supply needed
power.? Some of these power packs even have wireless charges
on top.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 09:04:48 PM EDT, Greg D
via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Mmmm, careful.? At 88 watt-hours, that's barely more
than 7ah at 12v, not counting internal conversion
losses.? The inverter may be able to source 100 or 300
watts, but not for long.? 300 watts from an 88 watt-hour
battery will drain it in something like 15 minutes.? Of
course the FT-817/818 draws considerably less - you'd
likely get 5+ hours of use - but there's no
Tardis-derived magic here.? Start plugging other stuff
in, and the run time can drop very quickly.
When looking at these "Solar generators", the important
spec to look at is the watt-hour rating of the battery.?
The AC output spec is just for the inverter; it's a
limit for how much (peak) power can be drawn, not for
how long.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron Wright via
groups.io wrote:
Martin,
Yes there a lots of power banks that
put out USB power and 12VDC power and also 120VAC
power, all in one battery box.? I have 2 with
120VAC output along with USB and 12VDC outlets.?
They come in a verity of power levels, mine are
100 & 300W.
There are other that can power a
FT817 for hours that put out USB and 12VDC.
Here is one on Amazon.? No tsure if
you need 120 or 240VAC.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 08:05:32 PM EDT,
Kevin - K5KTM via groups.io <ktmullens@...>
wrote:
Nice that it’s multi-use but that thing is
huge.?
On Mar 11, 2025,
at 13:52, Martin HB3YDM via groups.io <hb3ydm@...>
wrote:
?
Hey Guys?
check your YouTube the channel from
Jason KM4ACK
this last Video bring s greatfully
battery pack.
?
?
?
or when you have an Car Start
helper this tool is also very light.
?
?
Vy 73 de Martin HB3YDM
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Hi folks,
?
We had out doubts when other hams began espousing use of these battery banks, so we purchased a few and did some tests along with some well-known batteries to see how they stacked up.? We summarized the results in an interactive table, so you can see the best in any relevant category.? The full test blog is .
?
Cheers & 73,
Howie / WA4PSC
Howard Hoyt
Pro Audio Engineering
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Ron, ? ?You'll never be sorry if you get a Weller butane soldering iron kit. It works anywhere and is especially good in cold weather for larger items like UHF connectors. Only the Weller one in my opinion though. All the other brands seem to be flame design while the Weller is flameless. JMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 3:32 PM, Ron Wright via groups.io <lt_wright_flg@...> wrote: Greg,
Obviously one would not get one of these power packs to run like a refrig or heater.? I got a 300W unit to run my soldering gun for events like putting together Field Day.? Works great.
Yes, one needs to look at the capacity for your needs.? And many can power a rig like a FT817 and also charge for a long time ones cell phone.? A 300W unit can last a long time.
The point is there are power packs for many portable use that will supply needed power.? Some of these power packs even have wireless charges on top.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 09:04:48 PM EDT, Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Mmmm, careful.? At 88 watt-hours, that's barely more than 7ah at
12v, not counting internal conversion losses.? The inverter may be
able to source 100 or 300 watts, but not for long.? 300 watts from
an 88 watt-hour battery will drain it in something like 15 minutes.?
Of course the FT-817/818 draws considerably less - you'd likely get
5+ hours of use - but there's no Tardis-derived magic here.? Start
plugging other stuff in, and the run time can drop very quickly.
When looking at these "Solar generators", the important spec to look
at is the watt-hour rating of the battery.? The AC output spec is
just for the inverter; it's a limit for how much (peak) power can be
drawn, not for how long.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron Wright via groups.io wrote:
Martin,
Yes there a lots of power
banks that put out USB power and 12VDC power and also 120VAC
power, all in one battery box.? I have 2 with 120VAC output
along with USB and 12VDC outlets.? They come in a verity of
power levels, mine are 100 & 300W.
There are other that can
power a FT817 for hours that put out USB and 12VDC.
Here is one on Amazon.? No
tsure if you need 120 or 240VAC.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 08:05:32 PM EDT, Kevin -
K5KTM via groups.io <ktmullens@...>
wrote:
Nice that it’s multi-use but that thing is huge.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 13:52,
Martin HB3YDM via groups.io
<hb3ydm@...> wrote:
?
Hey Guys?
check your YouTube the channel from Jason
KM4ACK
this last Video bring s greatfully battery
pack.
?
?
?
or when you have an Car Start helper this
tool is also very light.
?
?
Vy 73 de Martin HB3YDM
|
"I have some good 6000 AHr units that put out 12V and USB (12000 AHr for USB), but have 3 Amp output limits."
You may want to check your units, LOL - got a good laugh reading about 12,000 Amp Hour batteries...
?
Ken, N2VIP
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Greg,
I agree we must always look at the AHr rating of the battery when getting one of these units, nothing new.? Even for 12V batteries for our rigs we need to check these ratings.? But the internal battery is also a factor for the 12V and USB and other output units, not just the 120VAC output versions.? And there are a lot of units for 12V and USB and others for just single voltages.
With these one must also check the max current rating.? I have some good 6000 AHr units that put out 12V and USB (12000 AHr for USB), but have 3 Amp output limits.
But there are many applications where even a 100W unit will do as one wants.? An 8AHr battery is good for about any POTA event where like 5 hours use.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 09:04:48 PM EDT, Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
Mmmm, careful.? At 88 watt-hours, that's barely more than 7ah at
12v, not counting internal conversion losses.? The inverter may be
able to source 100 or 300 watts, but not for long.? 300 watts from
an 88 watt-hour battery will drain it in something like 15 minutes.?
Of course the FT-817/818 draws considerably less - you'd likely get
5+ hours of use - but there's no Tardis-derived magic here.? Start
plugging other stuff in, and the run time can drop very quickly.
When looking at these "Solar generators", the important spec to look
at is the watt-hour rating of the battery.? The AC output spec is
just for the inverter; it's a limit for how much (peak) power can be
drawn, not for how long.
Greg? KO6TH
Ron Wright via groups.io wrote:
Martin,
Yes there a lots of power
banks that put out USB power and 12VDC power and also 120VAC
power, all in one battery box.? I have 2 with 120VAC output
along with USB and 12VDC outlets.? They come in a verity of
power levels, mine are 100 & 300W.
There are other that can
power a FT817 for hours that put out USB and 12VDC.
Here is one on Amazon.? No
tsure if you need 120 or 240VAC.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 08:05:32 PM EDT, Kevin -
K5KTM via groups.io <ktmullens@...>
wrote:
Nice that it’s multi-use but that thing is huge.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 13:52,
Martin HB3YDM via groups.io
<hb3ydm@...> wrote:
?
Hey Guys?
check your YouTube the channel from Jason
KM4ACK
this last Video bring s greatfully battery
pack.
?
?
?
or when you have an Car Start helper this
tool is also very light.
?
?
Vy 73 de Martin HB3YDM
|
Martin HB3YDM
M0RON
Craig Bailey - N4CN
David Wilcox K8WPE
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