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Chalkline antenna reel -- advice?

Glyph
 

Some people have posted messages about rolling antenna wire into an empty chalkline reel -- it would make a fine container, and it would make retrieving the wire fast.

Today I tried rolling some #22 insulated copper stranded wire (90 feet purchased at my friendly Rad Shak) -- and probably only 60 + feet went in. Anyone had any luck getting as much as 100 feet in? Where can one buy #26 or so insulated wire? Rad Shak doesn't seem to carry anything smaller than #22. I checked out my local ham flea market last weekend with no luck.

Has anyone tried winding enameled one-strand magnet wire into a chalkline reel? Due to lack of plastic insulation, it should be possible to get 100 feet of wire in OK. Trouble with magnet wire is that it can get kinks in it easily, it can be unwieldy and it can stretch.

I definitely want to stay with copper wire for this application.

BTW, I took my 817 and my Emtech ZM2 tuner and attached adhesive velcro strips to the top of the 817 back behind the speaker, and to the side of the ZM2, so now the tuner can be held to the top of the 817 with velcro. A short section of coax runs between the front of the rig and the tuner. Now the controls of the ZM2 are as easily accessible to the operator as are the controls of the 817.

Bands didn't seem to be doing much this weekend. Quite a bit of QRN here.

-- Bil KD6JUI


Re: So Frustrating.

Glyph
 

Where do you live?

-- Bil KD6JUI

----- Original Message -----
From: <ki8jt@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: [FT817] So Frustrating.


I read about others having success and fun with the FT-817.
The only thing that has changed about my setup is that I now use the
FT-817 instead of my htx-10 and FT-620b. Obviously the power levels
have not been reduce all that much. Everything else is the same -
antennas, location, operating methods (can't speak for propagation).
I've had this nice radio for two months now and not a *single*
contact. I don't expect to be heard during a pileup (I never was
before), but I've called stations that were booming in before a
pileup or after. I've called others calling CQ. I've tried joining
leisurly conversations.
Nada.
I'm getting very ready to trade someone for an FT-100, but I love
portability of this thing.
I've checked power levels, everything I can think of is good.
So, what might I not be thinking of...?


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Re: mikes

Brian B. Riley, N1BQ
 

The adapter for the Heil headsets is the AD-1YM for the 817 - $14.95
from HRO

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gerth [mailto:bgerth@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 22:26 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] mikes



Michael,

The 817 mike uses an RJ-45 connector. Heil sells an
excellent adapter that
converts any Yaesu "round" connector mike cable to the RJ-45
needed by the
817.

72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Goins <mgoins@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:00 AM
Subject: [FT817] mikes


Considering selling a number of stations items and
purchasing an FT-817,
but
need to ask someoner a quesrtion regaridng the mike. I prefer a Heil
Goldline
type mike, boom mounted at home. Can't see from the ad
pictures what kind
of
mike connection there is on the FT-817. Also, anyone using
it HF mobile?
Results? If I go this route, it will replace the Kwood 440
in the station,
the
Argo 556, and the Kwood 130 in the van. Need some help here please.
mike
wb5yjx

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Re: mikes

 

Michael,

The 817 mike uses an RJ-45 connector. Heil sells an excellent adapter that
converts any Yaesu "round" connector mike cable to the RJ-45 needed by the
817.

72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Goins <mgoins@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:00 AM
Subject: [FT817] mikes


Considering selling a number of stations items and purchasing an FT-817,
but
need to ask someoner a quesrtion regaridng the mike. I prefer a Heil
Goldline
type mike, boom mounted at home. Can't see from the ad pictures what kind
of
mike connection there is on the FT-817. Also, anyone using it HF mobile?
Results? If I go this route, it will replace the Kwood 440 in the station,
the
Argo 556, and the Kwood 130 in the van. Need some help here please.
mike
wb5yjx

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Re: Digest Number 454

Jan and/or Len Peak
 

Hello to the group,It looks like the filter can be stacked,I have the 500hz
CW filter not installed it yet ,but it looks like the Side Band filter could
stack on it .Wonder what would happen it put in the 817 stacked and select
from menu on what to use by the radio,have I been around too much RF or
what? Just thinking,73 to all.....Len N9HKG


Loading Coils (I forgot to mention something)

 

Also, the way I checked the antenna was with a MFJ-259B, a pl-259 to bnc
connector on top of the unit with no counterpoise connected to the MFJ-259B.

73's again Lee/k3re


MALDOL whip - Loading Coils

 

Hello, this may be of help. When I purchased several types of whips in the
early days, the Tokyo Hy-Power 40 and 6 meter coil. Also the 40 and 17 meter
mono band AT whips, they were a little high at resonance frequency. Adding a
few turns of wire solved the problem and I am now able to get a good swr
across the band. It is a bit tricky to take the coils apart but on the AT
type whips, I just cut away the heat shrink. A good friend of mines (KC3VO)
showed my a way of taking apart the Tokyo Hypower coils by carefully heating
the coils to remove the outer cover. The reason I mention this is because
the Maldol coils appear t be made the same as the Tokyo Hy-Power coils. I
hope this helps and good luck. 73's Lee/k3re


Re: mikes

Don
 

I also get good audio reports with the stock mike, but I get much better
reports on transmit using a mike that can be tailored for my voice quality.
This is especially true when on FM.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Prior" <sjp@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: mikes


I have had unsolicited reports of excellent audio using just the
stock Yaesu mike.

Julian, G4ILO

I agree Julian. Had an excellent qso today sitting in the garden, with a
French station on 20m, and had a most complimentary report on the audio
quality, without me asking.

I'm using the standard mic on the number 2 setting, and mic gain set at
70.
Have others found it necessary to increase the ssb mic gain? Or am I just
a
quiet talker?! I've been toying with the idea of a Heil insert, but with
most of my activity being either cw or psk31, not sure if I can justify
it.

Had the opportunity to compare the ATX with my 20m wire dipole today,
sitting out in the garden. The dipole is about 20 feet high. Sitting on
the grass with the 817 between my knees, and the appropriate counterpoise
lying on the grass, the ATX was never more than 2 s points down on the
dipole. Admittedly this was the middle of the day, and there was only
European stuff on 20m, but I was pleasantly surprised.

I'm pleased to say that the 817 novelty still hasn't worn off!!

73 Stephen G4SJP



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Dipole

 

Hi all,
Bought a ft817 while I was in the USA, now I am home I am trying to
sort a antenna that a can pack in my suitcase for next time. Has anyone
tried using two atx antennas joined as a dipole and feed with coax.
G0BRY Bry
--
Bry Faulkner


Re: Battery compartment (Dave Perry)

 

Dave:

That is exactly what I needed. Did not know there was some sort of
removable tray for the AA batteries.

On another note, I assume that when unit is powered from a ext 12v
source that there is some sort of control over the charging of the
internal battery. Do you know if the charge level of the internal
batt is adjustable via software? Thinking of installing a 12v
internal batt supply if the charge level can be adjusted up from 9.6 v

Thanks

Frank

W9LVC





--- In FT817@y..., "David Perry" <david.perry3@v...> wrote:
Buy NiMHs, make up pack, cut green wire, insert pack into
compartment, keep
drycell tray for resale day, charge.

That's it!

David
----- Original Message -----
From: <werhr@y...>
To: <FT817@y...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:30 PM
Subject: [FT817] Battery compartment


Tha rig comes with the battery facilities for AA batteries.
What is necessary to change to Ni Cads.

I plan to pick up a rig in the next day or so and want to get
everything correct from the start.

Thanks

Frank



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ATX won't tune

Bob Conder
 

-Been trying to use the ATX,(connected to the rear coax with Radio Shack
adaptors) connector of the 817 on the beach in SC.
Yesterday, worked Brazil on 10m, but still get several SWR bars (4 or5)
regardless of the pin position, antenna height, and length of couterpoise
(cut to their specs). That is, with the usual specs per Waters and Stanton
instructions, get HSWR readings, so I've been experimenting.
-Has anyone else had this problem? Does this mean the ATX is bad (the base
of the whip will spin around on the BNC connector)?
-Thanks in advance,
Bob K4RLC (portable in South Carolina)


Re: SSB Filter Test - A Winner

 

Barry, if you have a computer with a soundcard, could you please run
receive audio passband plots of the 817's two ssb filters? It's
really quite easy to do. Please see
for an example. Tune the
radio to an empty frequency (e.g., 10M) and run the audio out into
the soundcard audio in. Download SR5 from www.ar5.com and run it.
You'll quickly see the difference in the response of the two filters.
Takes a coupla minutes, that's all.

73,
Barry N1EU
www.albany.net/~bg

--- In FT817@y..., w4wb@a... wrote:
This afternoon, W3PM and I performed a few tests on the Yaesu
optional SSB filter. We are located about 5 miles LOS and operated
on 10 M with signals at S-8 to S-9.

Qualitative observations by Gene W3PM were that the mechanical
filter
sounded better, sounded crisper (cleaner), and had more punch than
the ceramic filter.

Quantitative measurements were made using a true RMS volt meter by
HP. The average signal was 2 dB stronger with the mechanical
filter
when compared to the ceramic filter.

Like many others have reported, I also have had lots of unsolicited
reports that the rig has good audio. Such comment is far less
frequent with my FT-1000MP and Heil Goldline microphone although
the
audio is just fine.

I should point out that the receive audio is noticeably changed
when
using the mechanical SSB filter. Given that you are using a good
external speaker, the noise with the mechanical filter has the
sound
of white noise while the ceramic filter sounds like pink noise. I
plan to measure the noise spectrum soon with a spectrum analyzer to
quantify this observation.

At this point, I am leaning strongly towards the position that the
mechanical SSB filter (Yaesu or INRAD, take your pick) is worth the
money if you want to optimize your SSB experience.

I also have the HC-4 and HC-5 elements from Heil. When I mount
them
in a spare microphone and make some tests, I will share the
observations. Although the stock mic seems to do a great job, some
others have reported improvement with these Heil elements.

72 de Barry - W4WB


Re: mikes

 

Hi Stephen,

Next time try to get the counterpoise up off of the ground/grass a
couple of feet and I believe you will be surprised at the
improvement. [You might have to stand up to keep the counterpoise
below the base of the antena. ;-) ] The ATX will never get close to
performing as well as a proper (or even modest) dipole, but you can
still have loads of fun.

72 de Barry - W4WB


Had the opportunity to compare the ATX with my 20m wire dipole
today,
sitting out in the garden. The dipole is about 20 feet high.
Sitting on
the grass with the 817 between my knees, and the appropriate
counterpoise
lying on the grass, the ATX was never more than 2 s points down on
the
dipole. Admittedly this was the middle of the day, and there was
only
European stuff on 20m, but I was pleasantly surprised.

I'm pleased to say that the 817 novelty still hasn't worn off!!

73 Stephen G4SJP


So Frustrating.

 

I read about others having success and fun with the FT-817.
The only thing that has changed about my setup is that I now use the
FT-817 instead of my htx-10 and FT-620b. Obviously the power levels
have not been reduce all that much. Everything else is the same -
antennas, location, operating methods (can't speak for propagation).
I've had this nice radio for two months now and not a *single*
contact. I don't expect to be heard during a pileup (I never was
before), but I've called stations that were booming in before a
pileup or after. I've called others calling CQ. I've tried joining
leisurly conversations.
Nada.
I'm getting very ready to trade someone for an FT-100, but I love
portability of this thing.
I've checked power levels, everything I can think of is good.
So, what might I not be thinking of...?


Re: mikes

Stephen Prior
 

Is that 2 s points on Rx or Tx? I think the ATX works well on Rx, just
not
so hot on Tx. You'd have to make me swill a lot of beer to convince the
ATX
was in the same game as a dipole!
David
Admittedly, this was on rx. However, since the antenna is passive, it would
be going against the reciprocity theorem would it not if the same were not
to be true on tx too?
Also, I did not say it had the same gain, I did say that there were no more
than 2 S points difference, and in dB terms that is quite significant. That
said, unless I were in a totally tree-less landscape with no other supports,
I'd take a wire antenna with me anytime rather than use a shortened
vertical!

73 Stephen G4SJP


Re: Battery compartment

David Perry
 

Buy NiMHs, make up pack, cut green wire, insert pack into compartment, keep
drycell tray for resale day, charge.

That's it!

David

----- Original Message -----
From: <werhr@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:30 PM
Subject: [FT817] Battery compartment


Tha rig comes with the battery facilities for AA batteries.
What is necessary to change to Ni Cads.

I plan to pick up a rig in the next day or so and want to get
everything correct from the start.

Thanks

Frank



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Re: mikes

David Perry
 

Is that 2 s points on Rx or Tx? I think the ATX works well on Rx, just not
so hot on Tx. You'd have to make me swill a lot of beer to convince the ATX
was in the same game as a dipole!
David

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Prior" <sjp@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: mikes


I have had unsolicited reports of excellent audio using just the
stock Yaesu mike.

Julian, G4ILO

I agree Julian. Had an excellent qso today sitting in the garden, with a
French station on 20m, and had a most complimentary report on the audio
quality, without me asking.

I'm using the standard mic on the number 2 setting, and mic gain set at
70.
Have others found it necessary to increase the ssb mic gain? Or am I just
a
quiet talker?! I've been toying with the idea of a Heil insert, but with
most of my activity being either cw or psk31, not sure if I can justify
it.

Had the opportunity to compare the ATX with my 20m wire dipole today,
sitting out in the garden. The dipole is about 20 feet high. Sitting on
the grass with the 817 between my knees, and the appropriate counterpoise
lying on the grass, the ATX was never more than 2 s points down on the
dipole. Admittedly this was the middle of the day, and there was only
European stuff on 20m, but I was pleasantly surprised.

I'm pleased to say that the 817 novelty still hasn't worn off!!

73 Stephen G4SJP



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Battery compartment

 

Tha rig comes with the battery facilities for AA batteries.
What is necessary to change to Ni Cads.

I plan to pick up a rig in the next day or so and want to get
everything correct from the start.

Thanks

Frank


SSB Filter Test - A Winner

 

This afternoon, W3PM and I performed a few tests on the Yaesu
optional SSB filter. We are located about 5 miles LOS and operated
on 10 M with signals at S-8 to S-9.

Qualitative observations by Gene W3PM were that the mechanical filter
sounded better, sounded crisper (cleaner), and had more punch than
the ceramic filter.

Quantitative measurements were made using a true RMS volt meter by
HP. The average signal was 2 dB stronger with the mechanical filter
when compared to the ceramic filter.

Like many others have reported, I also have had lots of unsolicited
reports that the rig has good audio. Such comment is far less
frequent with my FT-1000MP and Heil Goldline microphone although the
audio is just fine.

I should point out that the receive audio is noticeably changed when
using the mechanical SSB filter. Given that you are using a good
external speaker, the noise with the mechanical filter has the sound
of white noise while the ceramic filter sounds like pink noise. I
plan to measure the noise spectrum soon with a spectrum analyzer to
quantify this observation.

At this point, I am leaning strongly towards the position that the
mechanical SSB filter (Yaesu or INRAD, take your pick) is worth the
money if you want to optimize your SSB experience.

I also have the HC-4 and HC-5 elements from Heil. When I mount them
in a spare microphone and make some tests, I will share the
observations. Although the stock mic seems to do a great job, some
others have reported improvement with these Heil elements.

72 de Barry - W4WB


Re: mikes

David Perry
 

Me too. Most folk are very impressed at the FT817 audio - I would never
switch microphones.

David

----- Original Message -----
From: <g4ilo@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: [FT817] Re: mikes


I have had unsolicited reports of excellent audio using just the
stock Yaesu mike.

Julian, G4ILO


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