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Didn't MFJ sell something like this several years ago? Seems it was
a box abt. 3x2x1 w/male bnc on one side & female on the other with an
on/off switch. I think I remember looking at this, then hearing
about the wideband rx mod for my IC-O2AT & deciding to try that
instead. I'm sure they discontinued it when those darned radio
manufacturers started building in wideband rx. ;)

Group,

This new version fixes a problem with old mode values that were stored in the initialization files which may have caused some users to get a run-time error upon starting RATS. A problem with tuning the SUB VFO using the channel dial has also been fixed. The ability to save SPLIT frequencies to memory for LEO satellite work has now been implemented. And the big news is that RATS FT-817 has a new face plate that gives it a 3 dimensional appearance. Check it out and let me know what you think. As always please let me know if you have any problems, so that I may address them in the next update. Thanks for your help and support. 73

Mark A. Smith
KB5KYX

--- In FT817@y..., "Curtis, Tony" <acurtis@t...> wrote:

Does anyone remember 72-ohm twinlead?

Please don't take this as a categorical assertion -- just trying to
jog my memory:

Isn't high-grade speaker twinlead supposed to have a nominal impedance
around 72 ohms, without suffering from upper-HF lossiness like
ordinary zipcord?

Frank
AB2KT

This may be of interest to those of you who own or are planning to buy
a DWM-4 watt meter to use with your FT817. I contacted LDG about the
insertion lose of the sensors & got the following responce.


It's something less than 1 db. I don't have anything that will measure
less than that.

Dwayne Kincaid
Pleas don't flame me, this is related to the FT817.
73, Fil W8FIL

It's called the FTV-7700. It converts

118-130 to 18-30, and 150-160 or 160-170 down to 20-30MHz.

Correction: That's F_R_V-7700 not FTV-7700

If I remember QST had a simple converter and I think
FAR Circuits sells the boards. It was a cover story
in 1998 or 1999 I think and there was one for 6 and 2
meters. It unsed the NE602. The 2 meter unit can be
tuned to work at 162mHz without changing anything
except where you tune to receive it on the 817.

73, Skip Davis, NC9O

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My impression is that these airport wx broadcasts are very short range
transmissions. I guess one would need to be near an airport to hear them.

--Tony K3RXK
k3rxk@...

--- In FT817@y..., jduffy@a... wrote:

Do you have any for SSB?

Yes I have just one of these, its 2.5khz BW ...

I just did a search and found a source of more information about "cloning software" for the FT-817 and other radios. You might check out the website of RT Systems at www.cloningsoftware.com

72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

You are correct the ATIS (automated terminal info system) provides up
to the minute current condition reports. Pop Comm has listed some of
the freqs. or go to the library and get the AOPA Pilots Guide and
look up your airport.

Works great!

W1TMD


--- In FT817@y..., "Curtis, Tony" <acurtis@t...> wrote:

Thanks to all for the interesting responses on receiving WX at 162

MHz on

the '817.

I like the idea of a downconverter as put forth by Dave and Pres.

Down to

10m FM sounds workable. Maybe W4RT Electronics could make a teeny

little

wart for the back of the '817.

I think the idea of using a separate HT or WX receiver defeats the

purpose

of getting it all inside one radio. Listening to FM broadcast

doesn't

defeat that, however.

Also, it is correct as someone mentioned that airports have local WX
broadcasts for pilots. For example, here at Cincinnati, the

international

airport has our friend, the computer voice, reading reports

continuously.

For arrival flights, the freq is 134.375. For departures, the freq

is

135.300.

I know there was "buzz" at Dayton about the '817 being engineered

for Japan,

but I don't think so. Why would they do that knowing the larger

global

market is out there? Doesn't strike me that engineering for just

one

country would make good business sense in today's world. I'm sure

they

wanted a quality amateur product and figured that increasing receive
bandspread would introduce compromises that would reduce the

overall quality

of the rig.

--Tony K3RXK
k3rxk@a...

They tried to send it to me too, but I can't get a .exe file past the
darn server..... Sure would be nice if they would park the patch here
wouldn't it?

Tom


--- In FT817@y..., "Bill Gerth" <bgerth@a...> wrote:

Rich,

Sorry about the short message. I was responding Barry, W4WB's

message about

a thread started a couple of days ago. ARDTS-817 is a piece of PC

software

designed to facilitate memory management of the FT-817. This type

of

software is sometimes referred to as "cloning software" since it

allows one

to maintain a database on a PC of all memory and control settings

of a

target radio make/model. It is then possible to "clone" a radio or

radios

by uploading the PC database to the target. RT Systems (no

relation except

geography to W4RT Electronics) has a lot of experience (and good

reputation)

in developing cloning software for several makes/models of ham

radios.

Their latest effort for the FT-817 was released at the recent Dayton
Hamvention. One of the sales outlets was W4RT Electronics in their

Dayton

booth.

Hope this helps.

72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard B Drake" <rich@w...>
To: <FT817@y...>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:05 PM
Subject: RE: [FT817] UPDATE - RT Systems ARDTS FT-817

Bill,

I'm very glad you got it and installed it and installed it and

it's

working

great. Please tell me what the heck you are talking about?!!!

---
73, Rich - W3ZJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gerth [mailto:bgerth@a...]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:47 PM
To: FT817@y...
Subject: Re: [FT817] UPDATE - RT Systems ARDTS FT-817



I just sent an e-mail to Rod at RT Systems requesting the

update per

Barry's
suggestion. The response was near immediate. Karin at RT

Systems sent

me

the update by e-mail and I have already installed it. Don't

have time

right
now for a complete test, but initial reaction is good. This

kind of

customer service is commendable. Software bugs are a way of

life in the

computer age. How companies respond to user problems is very

important.

72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

----- Original Message -----
From: <w4wb@a...>
To: <FT817@y...>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:47 PM
Subject: [FT817] UPDATE - RT Systems ARDTS FT-817


> I just spoke with Rod at RT Systems about the reported

difficulty

> with the ARDTS FT-817 software. A bug has been found and

fixed.

>
> Those having this software may send Rod an email at
>
> ft817@c...
>
> and request that the updated software be sent via email to

them.

>
> 73 de barry - W4WB
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Does anyone remember 72-ohm twinlead? I used to love the stuff for
antennas, but haven't owned any for years. I asked for it all over Dayton,
inside and outside, and the general answer was there is no market for it at
this time so nobody stocks it these days.

Lots of folks seemed to remember it. It's thin, light, very flexible, easy
to use.

Does anybody know where I might buy some?

--Tony K3RXK
k3rxk@...

Rich,

Sorry about the short message. I was responding Barry, W4WB's message about
a thread started a couple of days ago. ARDTS-817 is a piece of PC software
designed to facilitate memory management of the FT-817. This type of
software is sometimes referred to as "cloning software" since it allows one
to maintain a database on a PC of all memory and control settings of a
target radio make/model. It is then possible to "clone" a radio or radios
by uploading the PC database to the target. RT Systems (no relation except
geography to W4RT Electronics) has a lot of experience (and good reputation)
in developing cloning software for several makes/models of ham radios.
Their latest effort for the FT-817 was released at the recent Dayton
Hamvention. One of the sales outlets was W4RT Electronics in their Dayton
booth.

Hope this helps.

72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

I hope that neither this topic nor any of those discussing it exit this
group as a result of any "heat" that anyone feels accompanied the "light" in
the discussion-- I have learned and continue to learn a LOT about antenna
issues & options-- and new ways to look at and understand those issues and
options-- both as to my 817 and more generally. While I've read numerous
books & articles (Moxon, Cebik, Severns....), manufacturers' ads, etc.
espousing one or the other of the perspectives you all are testing,
exchanging and debating, I find this dialogue about what works, in what
conditions, with what technique... far more conducive to developing a better
practical understanding that I can put to use.

In fact, as someone new to both QRP and HF portable, finding out what
options I can try for antennas for my 817-- and the pros and cons of those
options-- was my biggest reason for joining the group.

Trevor
KD1YT

Thanks to all for the interesting responses on receiving WX at 162 MHz on
the '817.

I like the idea of a downconverter as put forth by Dave and Pres. Down to
10m FM sounds workable. Maybe W4RT Electronics could make a teeny little
wart for the back of the '817.

I think the idea of using a separate HT or WX receiver defeats the purpose
of getting it all inside one radio. Listening to FM broadcast doesn't
defeat that, however.

Also, it is correct as someone mentioned that airports have local WX
broadcasts for pilots. For example, here at Cincinnati, the international
airport has our friend, the computer voice, reading reports continuously.
For arrival flights, the freq is 134.375. For departures, the freq is
135.300.

I know there was "buzz" at Dayton about the '817 being engineered for Japan,
but I don't think so. Why would they do that knowing the larger global
market is out there? Doesn't strike me that engineering for just one
country would make good business sense in today's world. I'm sure they
wanted a quality amateur product and figured that increasing receive
bandspread would introduce compromises that would reduce the overall quality
of the rig.

--Tony K3RXK
k3rxk@...

Hi.
Just before you reset everything.

About the 7MHz TX only problem

Check that the FT-817 is NOT in slpit mode ( a small symbol on
the lower right side of the display)

73 LA9KW Hans Petter

--- In FT817@y..., julian@t... wrote:

Thanks, Demetre.

I did download the W4RNL article but it was a bit much to get my

head

round. It is a very long time since I did school physics and learnt
about fields and stuff. All I actually wanted to do was find a way

to

tune the MP-1 so it presented a good SWR and I could use it with

the

817 without a tuner.

Due to the intemperate diatribe directed at me by another member of
this list I no longer wish to contribute, so I shall unsubscribe

now

and let you carry on discussing computer software and opening up
receive coverage and similar matters in peace. Perhaps in a few
months I will once again be able to go up in the mountains and use

my

817 as I intended, and perhaps one day, Demetre, I shall have the
pleasure of a QSO with you.

Until then, 73.

Julian, G4ILO

Hi Julian,

No need to be so radical man. I think everyone is trying to help
here, not to send members of the group away. After all these Groups
are for this reason, where we can all tell our opinion and help each
other. Nobody here is expected to be a rocket scientist and I do not
anyone of us here is.

On the other hand perhaps you could continue this discussion to a
more specialized group such as the HFpack. If you are not already a
member of it, I think it would be a good idea joining it.

As for a QSO with me Julian I am visiting the UK on 20 July and will
stay there for 2 weeks. Please e-mail me privately if you like to
sv1uy@... telling me if you are going to be there.

Also I will be QRV this Sunday at 04.00z on 18,157 KHZ and at 08.00z
on 28,337 KHZ and at 08.15z on 21,437 KHZ on my Sunday trek at Mt.
Ymittos talking to Keith G4MSF and Terry G0EHX. You are welcome to
call me. Feel free to break the QSO.

73 de Demetre SV1UY

Thanks, Demetre.

I did download the W4RNL article but it was a bit much to get my head
round. It is a very long time since I did school physics and learnt
about fields and stuff. All I actually wanted to do was find a way to
tune the MP-1 so it presented a good SWR and I could use it with the
817 without a tuner.

Due to the intemperate diatribe directed at me by another member of
this list I no longer wish to contribute, so I shall unsubscribe now
and let you carry on discussing computer software and opening up
receive coverage and similar matters in peace. Perhaps in a few
months I will once again be able to go up in the mountains and use my
817 as I intended, and perhaps one day, Demetre, I shall have the
pleasure of a QSO with you.

Until then, 73.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., "Demetre Valaris - SV1UY" <sv1uy@s...> wrote:

Hi Julian and group,

I must tell you to buy the book HF ANTENNAS FOR ALL LOCATIONS by

Les

Moxon, G6XN, which is printed by your RSGB. This is considered by
many the bible in Antennas. Les will definately make you change

your

views about ground systems for vertical antennas.

Also there is a fantastic American site talking about antennas as
well. This is and L.B.Cebik W4RNL, the owner

of

this site, knows very well what he is talking about.

Both these antenna GURUS will enlighten you about ground systems

for

vertical antennas.

Finally there is a nice article that was printed in QEX and it was
posted somewhere in these YAHOO groups by someone else, whose name

I

cannot recall now.
This nice article is at

I hope these references will help you make up your mind about
vertical antennas which really are asymetrical dipoles.

73 de Demetre SV1UY

Well, you have just rubbished the advice given by manufacturers like
Cushcraft, HyGain and others for erecting their verticals, not to
mention vertical wires, end fed wires and others read in books. It is
no good my trying to understand the technical explanations for these
things, it is all way over my head. I just tend to follow the advice
I have seen constantly repeated, and find it hard to accept when
someone tells me that was all wrong...

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., "KQ6XA" <xtalradio@a...> wrote:

An elevated quarterwave resonant counterpoise is the best "ground"

you

can use with a quarterwave whip. A "poor ground" system for an HF
quarterwave vertical would be: an earth stake, wires laying on or
buried in the ground, or other lossy conductive materials.

I don't understand why. I am not very technical, so I can only
understand things if they are explained in layman's terms. Surely, in
an ideal situation, with a perfect ground, the ground acts as a
constant reference point and all the RF energy will go into the
vertical radiating element? With a less than perfect ground, there
will be some loss, because some of the RF is trying to energise the
ground as a radiator. If the ground is in the form of a counterpoise
there may well be radiation from it, which may even increase the
signal. But this is an accidental effect of a badly designed system.
Improving the RF ground should increase the proportion of the energy
radiated by the vertical element, giving among other things a less
distorted radiation pattern. At least, that's how I see it.

Julian, G4ILO