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FT817 ordered from HRO

david feldman
 

At HRO yesterday I asked if I could go on a list to notify
when 817 arrived; they said it was in their price list and
took an order (back-ordered). I don't know when it is due
to arrive - they'll call me - but I imagine it's not long.

73 Dave WB0GAZ wb0gaz@...

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Re: FT817 Question

Howard Z
 

I tried all of your combinations , with a and b vfos programmed to different frequencies and or bands and split enabled all of your combinations work fine .

73's Howard VE2AED


From: "Ed Manuel (N5EM)" <n5em@...>
To: howardzz@...
Subject: FT817 Question
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:08:31 -0500

Howard,

An additional question for the recent '817 expert.

Can you verify half duplex operation on different bands, ie, set transmit
to one band and receive on another band. Specifically, I'd like to know
about satellite operation in the following modes:

K - Tx on 15 meters, receive on 10 meters
T - Tx on 15 meters, receive on 2 meters
A - Tx on 2 meters, receive on 10 meters
B - Tx on 70 cm, receive on 2 meters
J - Tx on 2 meters, receive on 70 cm.

These are all the traditional satellite mode combos that would be possible
with the 817.

Thanks, Ed, N5EM
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Re: Price

Tracy Underwood
 

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Yes they can, and always do. As a former radio dealer, I remember when we actually had a radio in stock a few days before we were allowed to sell them. Also, we had a price listed for the SGC SG-2020 months before they ever even built the first one, let alone received type acceptance. On most amateur radio equipment, type acceptance is only a formality anyway.
Tracy

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Mitchelson <n3jpu@...>
To: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2000 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: Price

If it had not they legally can not put a price on it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Minor [mailto:nh6cj@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 23:00
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: Price

The Texas Tower site says that it has not been type accepter bhy the FCC
yet. Ithought I read on here that it had...


>From: Tim Pekkonen
>Reply-To: FT817@...
>To: FT817@...
>Subject: [FT817] Re: Price
>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:36:18 -0400
>
>The Texas Towers site has it priced at? $749US. Just wondering if anyone
>has heard
>of the Canadian Price yet ???
>
>
>
>73, Tim VE3UO
>
>
>
>FT817@... wrote:
>
> >
> > > FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You
> > > can't have one until next month, it seems.
> >
> > >
> >
>

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Re: Price

Gary Mitchelson
 

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If it had not they legally can not put a price on it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Minor [mailto:nh6cj@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 23:00
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: Price

The Texas Tower site says that it has not been type accepter bhy the FCC
yet. Ithought I read on here that it had...


>From: Tim Pekkonen
>Reply-To: FT817@...
>To: FT817@...
>Subject: [FT817] Re: Price
>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:36:18 -0400
>
>The Texas Towers site has it priced at? $749US. Just wondering if anyone
>has heard
>of the Canadian Price yet ???
>
>
>
>73, Tim VE3UO
>
>
>
>FT817@... wrote:
>
> >
> > > FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You
> > > can't have one until next month, it seems.
> >
> > >
> >
>

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Re: Price

Tim Pekkonen
 

The Texas Towers site has it priced at $749US. Just wondering if anyone has heard
of the Canadian Price yet ???



73, Tim VE3UO



FT817@... wrote:


FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You
can't have one until next month, it seems.


Re: FT-817 Price

Bob Sayers
 

The message <39E9C53D.6CC06F0D@...>
from Wayne Montague/Ann Beattie <beemoe@...> contains these words:

FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You
can't have one until next month, it seems.


Hhhmmm, interesting. Estimated price in this month's UK ham mags is 799UKP ...


Re: Price

Michael Minor
 

The Texas Tower site says that it has not been type accepter bhy the FCC yet. Ithought I read on here that it had...


From: Tim Pekkonen <ve3uo@...>
Reply-To: FT817@...
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: Price
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:36:18 -0400

The Texas Towers site has it priced at $749US. Just wondering if anyone has heard
of the Canadian Price yet ???



73, Tim VE3UO



FT817@... wrote:


FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You
can't have one until next month, it seems.
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FT-817 Price

Wayne Montague/Ann Beattie
 

FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You
can't have one until next month, it seems.





Wayne
VE3EFJ


Re: 817 tx observations

Howard Z
 

A few more observations on my FT-817 , after studying the specs of the final amplifier it became aparent that the "FETs" used in the final are extremely robust ( ) and can safely run 10 watts out per piece , each device can disipate 10 watts of heat with a max junction temp of 175C . I decided to modify some parameters in the radio just to see what could be accomplished , in fact the radio at max power was outputing 4 watts at 1.88 amps , removing the transmit limiting current completely in hf only (HF1IC1 ,2 and 3 and increasing the drive (HF1H1 , 2 and 3 see the alignment on egroups) the radio ran 10 watts at 9-13 volts with 2.5 amps total consumption , simple math proved that the TX was 50% efficient and max current parameters were never exceeded , however I did not test any further and suspect that since the transmitter was probably running full bore there was probably no headroom left for ALC so I then adjusted the IC settings for 7 watts and the drive "H1" settings for a max of 6 watts , alc was not affected and so I left it this way . I realize that this represents a very small DB increase going from 4 to 6 watts however I felt that this setting was the best option in high power setting ( the rig has 4 switchable settings with a warning power icon in the highest setting when on battery power )
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Re: Received FT-817 today

Gus Treewater
 

I heard Howard on 20 meters late this afternoon. I listened
critically to the audio, and I thought the rig sounded great. I was
mobile in California and I guess he was in Eastern Canada. Although
he
didn't move the S-meter I copied most of his transmission with
relative ease. With all my road noise I have trouble copying lots of
mediocre audio signals, but his was great.Enjoy your new radio Howard.
gus k2gt


Cost at this time...

 

I recieved a quote of 98,600 yen ($915.00 US) FOB in Japan.
Does any one have a price update? Any US prices yet???
73
ve7grf... QRP .... QRT... K


Re: RECEIVED MY 817 TODAY !

Pres Waterman
 

does it come with a wall wart?

Japanese instructions?

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


Re: RECEIVED MY 817 TODAY !

Pres Waterman
 

Wow. I am very excited about this.

And hey! Yours is Japanese but can be jumpered to USA!?!?!?!? I thought this
was impossible. Do tell if it works

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Z <howardzz@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:12 PM
Subject: [FT817] RECEIVED MY 817 TODAY !



Hi everyone I received my ft817 today from my friend in Japan , The radio
is
as nice as can be imagined and is indeed a dream come true , The first qso
was with a w0 reporting 5/9 on 17 meters . Battery current is around 310ma
at zero volume and with the lamp off subtract 30 ma at comfortable volume
add 50 ma , I will make more measurements when I have time . I purchased
the new 1.6ah Sanyo/GE NiMh AA cell batteries , the radio as it comes will
not charge batteries in the AA holder , the radio requires that you
purchase
the optional FN72 battery pack however a quick glance at the schematic and
I
simply cut the green wire on the battery holder (there are 3 wires going
to
the holder ) . The batteries now charge at a 180 mah rate , the charge
time
is programmable , 2 settings 6 hours and 10 hours , the charge rate is
fixed
so obviously the 1.6 ah batteries need more than 10 hours for full charge
(
150% of their rate) The charge cycle is manual , in otherwords you have to
turn it on , the batteries charge whether the radio is on or off and in the
off mode there is a count down timer which displays how much time left until
the charge turns off . There are no safety circuits so it is possible to
repeat the charge cycle and overcharge the cells , however a 6 or 10 hour
rate will not damage them .

The S meter is "cute" not only is there a bar display as in all radios but
there is a digit to the left of the bar displaying the signal level
( example "S4" ) . My next project will be to probably change some ju
mpers
in the front panel to enable the USA 70cm and 2 m bands . Since this rig
is
"Japanese" it only covers 144-146 and 430-440 .

The 817 comes with an antenna similar to the one supplied with the VX5
which
covers 144 and 450 and with the screw on extender 6 meters as well (all 3
bands ) . I have some beautiful whips from my JRC JST10 hand held hf
"lunchbox" for 15 and 40 meters and will try them in portable use . Yaesu
should make antennas similar to those . ANYONE OUT THERE FROM YAESU
LISTENING .. :)

73's for now
Howard VE2AED

I beleive the 817 will set a trend
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RECEIVED MY 817 TODAY !

Howard Z
 

Hi everyone I received my ft817 today from my friend in Japan , The radio is as nice as can be imagined and is indeed a dream come true , The first qso was with a w0 reporting 5/9 on 17 meters . Battery current is around 310ma at zero volume and with the lamp off subtract 30 ma at comfortable volume add 50 ma , I will make more measurements when I have time . I purchased the new 1.6ah Sanyo/GE NiMh AA cell batteries , the radio as it comes will not charge batteries in the AA holder , the radio requires that you purchase the optional FN72 battery pack however a quick glance at the schematic and I simply cut the green wire on the battery holder (there are 3 wires going to the holder ) . The batteries now charge at a 180 mah rate , the charge time is programmable , 2 settings 6 hours and 10 hours , the charge rate is fixed so obviously the 1.6 ah batteries need more than 10 hours for full charge ( 150% of their rate) The charge cycle is manual , in otherwords you have to turn it on , the batteries charge whether the radio is on or off and in the off mode there is a count down timer which displays how much time left until the charge turns off . There are no safety circuits so it is possible to repeat the charge cycle and overcharge the cells , however a 6 or 10 hour rate will not damage them .

The S meter is "cute" not only is there a bar display as in all radios but there is a digit to the left of the bar displaying the signal level
( example "S4" ) . My next project will be to probably change some jumpers in the front panel to enable the USA 70cm and 2 m bands . Since this rig is "Japanese" it only covers 144-146 and 430-440 .

The 817 comes with an antenna similar to the one supplied with the VX5 which covers 144 and 450 and with the screw on extender 6 meters as well (all 3 bands ) . I have some beautiful whips from my JRC JST10 hand held hf "lunchbox" for 15 and 40 meters and will try them in portable use . Yaesu should make antennas similar to those . ANYONE OUT THERE FROM YAESU LISTENING .. :)

73's for now
Howard VE2AED

I beleive the 817 will set a trend
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Re: Current etc

 

Howard,
Great! I'm looking forward to finding out how low the receive current
can be.
Regards,
Mike M. KU4QO

Howard Z wrote:


I have an 817 in the air presently from Japan , As soon as I receive it (I
hope this week ) I will make all measurements and confirm all of your
questions . I just picked up at a hamfest this weekend NiMH AA cells made by
Sanyo ( 1.6 AH ) so this should provide the 817 with alot of hours between
charges . It appears that the batteries will charge in the radio only if the
status of " Battery" terminal is modified . This terminal is meant to sense
the FNB-72 Yaesu battery and I don't think anything else will charge without
a mod . Fortunately I picked up all schematics . Will keep you all posted


Current etc

Howard Z
 

I have an 817 in the air presently from Japan , As soon as I receive it (I hope this week ) I will make all measurements and confirm all of your questions . I just picked up at a hamfest this weekend NiMH AA cells made by Sanyo ( 1.6 AH ) so this should provide the 817 with alot of hours between charges . It appears that the batteries will charge in the radio only if the status of " Battery" terminal is modified . This terminal is meant to sense the FNB-72 Yaesu battery and I don't think anything else will charge without a mod . Fortunately I picked up all schematics . Will keep you all posted .
73's
VE2AED


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Subject: [FT817] Digest Number 33
Date: 6 Oct 2000 08:40:18 -0000

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There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Re: 450mA???
From: "Lofstead, Jerry" <jerry.lofstead@...>
2. Re: Re: 450mA???
From: Mike Maiorana <mikemo@...>
3. Re: 450mA???
From: g0vgz@...


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:12:45 -0400
From: "Lofstead, Jerry" <jerry.lofstead@...>
Subject: RE: Re: 450mA???

OK, Thanks

Jerry

-----Original Message-----
From: g0vgz@... [mailto:g0vgz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 5:40 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: 450mA???


It has 150ma rx draw on switch on with no volume and 450ma at full
volume
(who runs a rig at full volume) ?

In FT817@..., "Lofstead, Jerry" <jerry.lofstead@h...> wrote:
If you read the fine print, I think you will find out when you
turn off the
back light it drops substantially. Same problem with the IC 706.

Jerry
W3cde


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Maiorana [mailto:mikemo@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:41 AM
To: ft817@...
Subject: [FT817] 450mA???


If the receive current of the ft-817 is truly 450mA as our friend
from
Japan has said, I seriously doubt I'll buy one. I had heard earlier
that
the receive current was around 150mA.
I wonder why the disparity in these numbers?
Regards,
Mike M. KU4QO

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:43:43 -0400
From: Mike Maiorana <mikemo@...>
Subject: Re: Re: 450mA???

Has anyone actually confirmed this?
I guess the numbers make sense. About 3 watts dissipated at full volume
(1 watt or so of audio out).
Anyone?
Regards,
Mike Maiorana, KU4QO

g0vgz@... wrote:

It has 150ma rx draw on switch on with no volume and 450ma at full
volume
(who runs a rig at full volume) ?

In FT817@..., "Lofstead, Jerry" <jerry.lofstead@h...> wrote:
If you read the fine print, I think you will find out when you
turn off the
back light it drops substantially. Same problem with the IC 706.

Jerry
W3cde


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Maiorana [mailto:mikemo@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:41 AM
To: ft817@...
Subject: [FT817] 450mA???


If the receive current of the ft-817 is truly 450mA as our friend
from
Japan has said, I seriously doubt I'll buy one. I had heard earlier
that
the receive current was around 150mA.
I wonder why the disparity in these numbers?
Regards,
Mike M. KU4QO

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:13:21 -0000
From: g0vgz@...
Subject: Re: 450mA???

Cannot remember where I seen figures but it should, if I remember
correctly draw 150ma on low to medium vol levels ok if you have cans
on or are listening with a quiet background. But also bear in mind
most handies draw similair currents and run of approx 4 AA cells ,
the 817 has 8 AA cells. Personally this has not deterred me in the
slightest. Thank goodness Yaesu have had the decency to add an AA
holder as opposed to a custom sealed ni-cd pack or similair. We all
know the AA battery is now an industry standard in most applications,
the technology is slowing to ideas of shrinking components with low
consumption. This leaves it wide open to battery manufacturers to
take over. Again watch this space , My guess is that we will see an
AA Li-on cell with voltage to 1.5v as opposed to 3.6v (as present)
with excellent amps per hour possibilities, hence a good life for all
us FT817 user's.
Regard's John.

--- In FT817@..., Mike Maiorana <mikemo@a...> wrote:
Has anyone actually confirmed this?
I guess the numbers make sense. About 3 watts dissipated at full
volume
(1 watt or so of audio out).
Anyone?
Regards,
Mike Maiorana, KU4QO

g0vgz@i... wrote:

It has 150ma rx draw on switch on with no volume and 450ma at full
volume
(who runs a rig at full volume) ?

In FT817@..., "Lofstead, Jerry" <jerry.lofstead@h...>
wrote:
If you read the fine print, I think you will find out when you
turn off the
back light it drops substantially. Same problem with the IC
706.

Jerry
W3cde


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Maiorana [mailto:mikemo@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:41 AM
To: ft817@...
Subject: [FT817] 450mA???


If the receive current of the ft-817 is truly 450mA as our
friend
from
Japan has said, I seriously doubt I'll buy one. I had heard
earlier
that
the receive current was around 150mA.
I wonder why the disparity in these numbers?
Regards,
Mike M. KU4QO

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Re: QRPp or better?

 

My guess is its customised to 150 or 300mw it has 3 or 4 settings,
however a set like this will surely wind down internally to
milliwatts not being like the FT100/IC706 and only having a 10w amp I
would have thought it shouldnt be a problem. another thought is use
lowest dc current in possible 8v ?? may reduce it further. this will
also reduce heat dissipation from components as opposed to using
13.8v. keeping case cool (that's if it does get warm at all on rx).

de John

--- In FT817@..., Rohn Blake <rohn@p...> wrote:
Apologies if this has been covered... has anyone heard how low the
power
can be dropped?

72
de Rohn, KR0HN


QRPp or better?

Rohn Blake
 

Apologies if this has been covered... has anyone heard how low the power
can be dropped?

72
de Rohn, KR0HN


If you have to ask... you can't afford it....

 

Well I have to ask...
My FT-7 is bending my mountain bike frame
and it over due for retirement... LOL
Has any one gotten prices yet in US dollars???
Cheers all from N.E.Pacific Ocean....
Grant / ve7grf / QRP... QRT


Re: 450mA???

 

Cannot remember where I seen figures but it should, if I remember
correctly draw 150ma on low to medium vol levels ok if you have cans
on or are listening with a quiet background. But also bear in mind
most handies draw similair currents and run of approx 4 AA cells ,
the 817 has 8 AA cells. Personally this has not deterred me in the
slightest. Thank goodness Yaesu have had the decency to add an AA
holder as opposed to a custom sealed ni-cd pack or similair. We all
know the AA battery is now an industry standard in most applications,
the technology is slowing to ideas of shrinking components with low
consumption. This leaves it wide open to battery manufacturers to
take over. Again watch this space , My guess is that we will see an
AA Li-on cell with voltage to 1.5v as opposed to 3.6v (as present)
with excellent amps per hour possibilities, hence a good life for all
us FT817 user's.
Regard's John.

--- In FT817@..., Mike Maiorana <mikemo@a...> wrote:
Has anyone actually confirmed this?
I guess the numbers make sense. About 3 watts dissipated at full
volume
(1 watt or so of audio out).
Anyone?
Regards,
Mike Maiorana, KU4QO

g0vgz@i... wrote:

It has 150ma rx draw on switch on with no volume and 450ma at full
volume
(who runs a rig at full volume) ?

In FT817@..., "Lofstead, Jerry" <jerry.lofstead@h...>
wrote:
If you read the fine print, I think you will find out when you
turn off the
back light it drops substantially. Same problem with the IC
706.

Jerry
W3cde


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Maiorana [mailto:mikemo@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:41 AM
To: ft817@...
Subject: [FT817] 450mA???


If the receive current of the ft-817 is truly 450mA as our
friend
from
Japan has said, I seriously doubt I'll buy one. I had heard
earlier
that
the receive current was around 150mA.
I wonder why the disparity in these numbers?
Regards,
Mike M. KU4QO

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