Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
Wind amp here too.? Works well. 3ah --
Thanks,
Randy.
randy.ab9go@...
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
I don't see a big problem with not using the built in charger. Just one different connection is all. Advancing technology never guarantees compatibility. And in this case yaesu chose to stay behind the times in the battery department. A deeper bottom cover by a mere ~18 mm would have allowed the use of a? 18650 pack moved indoors instead of underneath the radio. An alternative could be for yaesu to offer such a thing as an option or as an upgrade kit. If I was still working I'd have whipped one up pronto just to prove a point. ? ?Ymmv, fwiw, jmho, etc.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 8:15 PM, Karl Schwab <schwab.karl@...> wrote: But can't use the 817's internal charger to charge them.?  I use eight micro usb rechargeable lithium ion AA¡¯s made by Pale Blue Earth. See picture.?
-n7hex
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
I have a 20 year old ft817 with original finals and still works great. I gave up on internal batteries years ago. I use bioenno 3ah or 4.5 ah 12v with a PowerPole adapter on the bottom of the radio.? Best set up to date. I use same batteries on multiple rigs and have not had any issues with bioenno batteries. KR6AI? Kevin.?
On Apr 8, 2022 07:30, Gene Balinski <g.balinski@...> wrote: Alcon,
? ? I'll be taking my 817ND on the road this summer and need a replacement internal? battery.
What is the latest group through regarding replacements?? I have seen NiMH batteries at 2000 mAh capacity at various places.? Are there better batteries out there? with the same chemistry ?
What is the opinion on the LiIon battery/charger/plate from WiMo ?? ? Are there any downsides ??
I see there is something similar from Windcamp, but apparently there have been some issues with their products? according to some reviews.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.??
73,
Gene? K!NR
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
$60 for an 8 pack, 1560 mAh/each, recharge via usb octopus.
You pay a steep premium to maintain AA form-factor.
No, you can't charge them using the internal charger.
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On Apr 8, 2022, at 19:15, Karl Schwab <schwab.karl@...> wrote:
? But can't use the 817's internal charger to charge them.?  I use eight micro usb rechargeable lithium ion AA¡¯s made by Pale Blue Earth. See picture.?
-n7hex
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
But can't use the 817's internal charger to charge them.?
 I use eight micro usb rechargeable lithium ion AA¡¯s made by Pale Blue Earth. See picture.?
-n7hex
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
 I use eight micro usb rechargeable lithium ion AA¡¯s made by Pale Blue Earth. See picture.?
-n7hex
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
I use 2 5200 ma RC car batteries for the FT-817.? Works very well and lasts quite a while till finally going below the required voltage of the unit.? Fairly light weight and small.
Charlie KA9HDG
On Friday, April 8, 2022, 02:33:48 PM EDT, Ron Wright via groups.io <lt_wright_flg@...> wrote:
I have seen number of negative comments on the WindCamp, also cost way too much.
I like the Bioenno LiFePO4s, they are excellent.? A 9AHr that will power the FT817 for many hours cost over $100, but I feel well worth it.? Can get LiFePO4s on Amazon for much less, I have one and has performed well, cannot say much more.? My Bioenno 9AHr has really worked out well, never run it down.? I've had for about 2 years.? Use for POTA.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT 352-835-5610
On Friday, April 8, 2022, 01:29:24 PM EDT, Gene Balinski <g.balinski@...> wrote:
Appreciate the response/
73
Gene K1NR
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
I have seen number of negative comments on the WindCamp, also cost way too much.
I like the Bioenno LiFePO4s, they are excellent.? A 9AHr that will power the FT817 for many hours cost over $100, but I feel well worth it.? Can get LiFePO4s on Amazon for much less, I have one and has performed well, cannot say much more.? My Bioenno 9AHr has really worked out well, never run it down.? I've had for about 2 years.? Use for POTA.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT 352-835-5610
On Friday, April 8, 2022, 01:29:24 PM EDT, Gene Balinski <g.balinski@...> wrote:
Appreciate the response/
73
Gene K1NR
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I have a RFC 2-23 RF concepts amp that I wanted to use for 2 Meters with the 817. I have high MAX SWR on 2 Meters on the rig SWR meter.. Thinking it was the amp, I connected straight to my antennas, (2 Meter yagi and a X50 Vertical) both have max SWR on 2 and 440.
I have power out it appears. I tried going directly from the rig thinking might be the Z100 tuner. Still the same. I took my SWR Meter and checked the VHF antennas and they are both around 1:5 to 1.
When I connect to HF, 6 Meters all the way down SWR is good. Faulty SWR meter on 817 or do I have an issue with the rig? The PO meter changes levels when I switch power levels, and ALC seems to adjust fine. I am puzzled. Any ideas?
Steve
VA3FLF
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
Appreciate the response/
73
Gene K1NR
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
I've had good luck with Windcamp batteries. Only complaint is they are a bit tight fitting in battery compartment. I've also seen some lightweight lithium batteries on Amazon. A bit large perhaps for SOTA hikes (no "summits" on Cape Cod) but should be good for sea level here. 73, Rich W1GBB
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Joseph Wonoski via groups.io" <N1KHB@...> Date: 4/8/22 12:38 (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [ft817] Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
For a budget purchase the tried and true 12 v 7 ah sla is hard to beat at $20 - $25. A 9 pack of 18650 cells will fit nicely in the radio footprint. 3 banks of 3 cells in parallel, each bank in series for a range of 9 to 12 volts over the pack discharge curve is a nice fit for the 817 operating profile. Ah ratings for 18650 cells are all over the place as are prices, and some ratings are outright lies.? ? ?Ive been happily using an SLA on my nd almost since I got it in 2004. I gave up on internal batteries almost from the start being as anemic as they are. ? ?Ymmv, fwiw, jmho, etc.
Joe n1khb
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM, Gene Balinski <g.balinski@...> wrote: Alcon,
? ? I'll be taking my 817ND on the road this summer and need a replacement internal? battery.
What is the latest group through regarding replacements?? I have seen NiMH batteries at 2000 mAh capacity at various places.? Are there better batteries out there? with the same chemistry ?
What is the opinion on the LiIon battery/charger/plate from WiMo ?? ? Are there any downsides ??
I see there is something similar from Windcamp, but apparently there have been some issues with their products? according to some reviews.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.??
73,
Gene? K!NR
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
For a budget purchase the tried and true 12 v 7 ah sla is hard to beat at $20 - $25. A 9 pack of 18650 cells will fit nicely in the radio footprint. 3 banks of 3 cells in parallel, each bank in series for a range of 9 to 12 volts over the pack discharge curve is a nice fit for the 817 operating profile. Ah ratings for 18650 cells are all over the place as are prices, and some ratings are outright lies.? ? ?Ive been happily using an SLA on my nd almost since I got it in 2004. I gave up on internal batteries almost from the start being as anemic as they are. ? ?Ymmv, fwiw, jmho, etc.
Joe n1khb
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM, Gene Balinski <g.balinski@...> wrote: Alcon,
? ? I'll be taking my 817ND on the road this summer and need a replacement internal? battery.
What is the latest group through regarding replacements?? I have seen NiMH batteries at 2000 mAh capacity at various places.? Are there better batteries out there? with the same chemistry ?
What is the opinion on the LiIon battery/charger/plate from WiMo ?? ? Are there any downsides ??
I see there is something similar from Windcamp, but apparently there have been some issues with their products? according to some reviews.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.??
73,
Gene? K!NR
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Re: Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
I have used the Windcamp Lithium ion batteries quite successfully.
Alcon,
? ? I'll be taking my 817ND on the road this summer and need a replacement internal? battery.
What is the latest group through regarding replacements?? I have seen NiMH batteries at 2000 mAh capacity at various places.? Are there better batteries out there? with the same chemistry ?
What is the opinion on the LiIon battery/charger/plate from WiMo ?? ? Are there any downsides ??
I see there is something similar from Windcamp, but apparently there have been some issues with their products? according to some reviews.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.??
73,
Gene? K!NR
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Recommendations for a replacement battery pack for F-817ND
Alcon,
? ? I'll be taking my 817ND on the road this summer and need a replacement internal? battery.
What is the latest group through regarding replacements?? I have seen NiMH batteries at 2000 mAh capacity at various places.? Are there better batteries out there? with the same chemistry ?
What is the opinion on the LiIon battery/charger/plate from WiMo ?? ? Are there any downsides ??
I see there is something similar from Windcamp, but apparently there have been some issues with their products? according to some reviews.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.??
73,
Gene? K!NR
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Jokes but I did get a reply with a low ball offer for the key hihi John VE3IPS -- John VE3IPS Radio is a Lifestyle not a Hobby Oprah added the ARRL Handbook to her list
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Re: Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND
Joe -
My wife is NOT a hand-quilter. She uses machines to cut (AccuQuilt), sew (BabyLock and Janome) and quilt (a BabyLock mid-arm Tiara--fortunately not a long-arm yet). She describes herself as more of a "piecer", as she loves to assemble the quilts, and is less fond of the actual quilting. Of course, her use of machines has meant that we've spent more on her hobby in the past few years than on mine.
And I can assure you that there are a lot more in the Championship than hand-quilters. She may not be in the Final Four, but she's ranked somewhere in the brackets!
Steve
W3HF
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Re: Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND
I had a KX3 and sold that, I still have an FT-817ND. The price difference meant I could achieve my next purchase more easily by selling the KX3. My main gripe with the KX3 with the poor speaker volume, I like to remain unencumbered by headphones where possible on a summit. I could never understand why Elecraft hadn't addressed the issue, it must be a very easy fix.
So a pro for the FT-817 has to be the great speaker and ample volume. The sound that sometimes comes out that little speaker is nothing short than amazing at times. I have an ICOM 705 now - a truly amazing rig. However, on a recent trip to Austria, knowing that I would potentially be operating in the mountains and harsh conditions I took the FT-817.
Regards, Mark.
My grandmother use to have quilting get to-gathers.? Her and a few women would meet and quilt every year.? I have one she made around 1960.
She being not so financially well off, lived on a farm for over 50 years, used whatever pieces of fabric she could get, no fancy designs, just basic material.? She did make a good quilt that was nice to have during the cold months.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT 352-835-5610
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022, 07:58:46 PM EDT, Joe W4HH NAQCC #3938 < lecontejoe@...> wrote:
My wife is a hand quilter.? That is, according to her and a few of her associates, if a machine has touched it, it's not a quilt.? EVERY SINGLE piece of fabric is cut by hand.? EVERY SINGLE stitch is put in by hand -- piecing, binding, and quilting -- which is why our home hobby room is dominated by three -- not 1, not 2, but THREE -- maple quilting frames each with a quilt installed currently undergoing quilting.? They gather 2-3 days a week to stitch and bitch.
In the world of hand quilters, the one who dies with the most fabric wins.? My wife may not yet be in the Fabric Championship Game, but she damn well is in the Final Four.
Hope this helps.
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Joe
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Re: Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND
My grandmother use to have quilting get to-gathers.? Her and a few women would meet and quilt every year.? I have one she made around 1960.
She being not so financially well off, lived on a farm for over 50 years, used whatever pieces of fabric she could get, no fancy designs, just basic material.? She did make a good quilt that was nice to have during the cold months.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT 352-835-5610
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022, 07:58:46 PM EDT, Joe W4HH NAQCC #3938 <lecontejoe@...> wrote:
My wife is a hand quilter.? That is, according to her and a few of her associates, if a machine has touched it, it's not a quilt.? EVERY SINGLE piece of fabric is cut by hand.? EVERY SINGLE stitch is put in by hand -- piecing, binding, and quilting -- which is why our home hobby room is dominated by three -- not 1, not 2, but THREE -- maple quilting frames each with a quilt installed currently undergoing quilting.? They gather 2-3 days a week to stitch and bitch.
In the world of hand quilters, the one who dies with the most fabric wins.? My wife may not yet be in the Fabric Championship Game, but she damn well is in the Final Four.
Hope this helps.
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Joe
W4HH
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Re: Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND
My wife is a hand quilter.? That is, according to her and a few of her associates, if a machine has touched it, it's not a quilt.? EVERY SINGLE piece of fabric is cut by hand.? EVERY SINGLE stitch is put in by hand -- piecing, binding, and quilting -- which is why our home hobby room is dominated by three -- not 1, not 2, but THREE -- maple quilting frames each with a quilt installed currently undergoing quilting.? They gather 2-3 days a week to stitch and bitch.
In the world of hand quilters, the one who dies with the most fabric wins.? My wife may not yet be in the Fabric Championship Game, but she damn well is in the Final Four.
Hope this helps.
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Joe
W4HH
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Larry,
He had to be joking, hi.? Or maybe the paddle was made of gold.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida
146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT 352-835-5610
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022, 04:03:21 PM EDT, Larry Ryan <llryan@...> wrote:
Not a chance!? ?:-)
-Larry W7DGP
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