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Mics _not_ Mikes !!
Mike Tatum
All,
Please change "Mikes" to read "Mics" ... I get worried everytime I see my name listed in the group :) Cheers and happy FT817'ing ... MikeT ... M0AWS "F.B. Nutter, Jr." wrote: What's this got to do with mikes (see subject). Please change the-- MikeT |
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SUCCESS ON 20 METERS! (long)
I thought I'd update the group on my recent SSB DX success on 20M.
I'm putting up this post to encourage fellow 817 owners to jump in to the DX bands..the water's no so bad..... My antenna is a multi band (Multi element) inverted V at about 30 feet and a Z-11 tuner in a dense residential suburb in the Bay Area. Great QTH for the Pacific, poor for Euro. land. Over the past 30 days since I've had my 817 I've have had great DX success: 18 countries and 5 continents, including Africa, and some cool Euro. DX including a 5/9 from a JW station in Slavabad near the Arctic Circle last week. Also 20 states. I never try to slug it out with the "Big Guys"...nearly 100% of my DX success comes after I hear a station calling CQ DX or by tail-ending a DX QSO. These are common techniques and nothing new. I figured out that I average nearly 45 minutes listening for each new DX country I work. There's no point in calling CQ with 5 watts on SSB on 20..there's lots of others calling. They're listening for our calls. I Always add "/QRP" to my call. You'll be surprised at how many times you'll hear "will the QRP station please come back.." I got Lithuania just that way. I also make a point of always being super courteous when chasing DX..recognizing that QRP Ops can be viewed as both a curious novelty or a pesky insect..! I never break a DX QSO in progress. I've had good success on 15 and 10 when those bands are open as well. Lately I'm hearing more and more QRP Ops on 20 SSB ...mostly K2 owners running 10 watts. I really believe that the more QRP Ops. we have on then DX bands, the more success we'll all have. Perhaps this is wishful thinking, but I've also worked a lot of JA's who love to reduce their output to 5 watts when they learn I'm running the 817..they want the QRP to QRP QSO in Their log too. Get on 20 and gve it a try..it's thrilling to be a QRP station and be the one that STARTS the DX pile-up. 73, & Gud DX :harry KG6GPA |
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Re: Ft-817-MP1 / W3FF Tests
Pres Waterman
There you go again Pres, being both right and wrong at the same I believe you meant "YOU'RE right"... Ah, where is my red pencil? <VBG> Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! |
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Re: 20m Low Power Window 14340~14350 (Band Plan Proposal)
Any cook, knows that when you read the list of ingredients on a package, the
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largest quantity ingredient is listed first and as you read down the list the quantities get smaller and smaller. The list of ingredients for a successful contact would read something like this: 1) Propagation. 2) Local Noise Level 3) Antenna 4) Power Note that Power is listed last and is of least importance. The difference between 5 watts and a Kilowatt is 23 db (10 Log 1000/5) or about 3.8 S units.. How important that is depends wholly on other ingredients. If you see an S9+30 signal and he is running a KW the chances are pretty good than you can call him with 5 watts and hit him with an S9+5 signal. On the other hand if he is S4 with a KW chances are he won't hear your 5 watts. Does it really work that way? Most of the time it does - yes. Can you go on 20M SSB with 5 watts and have fun - with the right propagation and antenna, absolutely!! ------ 73, Rich - W3ZJ -----Original Message-----
From: whitehur@... [mailto:whitehur@...] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:15 PM To: FT817@... Subject: [FT817] Re: 20m Low Power Window 14340~14350 (Band Plan Proposal) --- In FT817@y..., "KQ6XA" <xtalradio@a...> wrote: <snip> >50Watts SSB has a similar communication capability as > about 2Watts or 5Watts CW. > <snip> Well then, if the goal is to communicate -- and I'm _really_ not trying to revive the usual code v. no code war here -- use CW. CW is one of our tools, and this is what it's best suited for. Cheers, Tom KC5UN Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FT817-unsubscribe@... and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see Please note that your messages and files sent to this group become public domain upon submission and may appear anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: mikes
F.B. Nutter, Jr.
What's this got to do with mikes (see subject). Please change the
thread!! 73, Fil W8FIL w4wb@... wrote: Hi Stephen,[www.debticated.com]
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Re: FT-817 Satellite ops.
--- In FT817@y..., "Curtis, Tony" <acurtis@t...> wrote:
VE7FM:I don't know, It was all I took along. How much power were you putting out?5 Watts Would a dipole, J-pole, quarter-wave whip or rubber duck also haveI don't know, give it a try and let us know.
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Re: Battery compartment (Dave Perry)
David Perry
Thanks Barry, I'll try that.
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From: <w4wb@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: [FT817] Re: Battery compartment (Dave Perry) --- In FT817@y..., "David Perry" <david.perry3@v...> wrote:Questions ) seeThe charge time can be set from 6 hours to ten hours. The currentis fixedat c200 mAh, so 1600 NiMH cells take two ten hour charges.easypeasy by Please note that your messages and files sent to this group become publicdomain upon submission and may appear anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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Re: Akkupacks
David Perry
Wots a FRIWO cell?
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David ----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Zenker" <dl2fi@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: [FT817] Akkupacks This is an info for the German readers of this list:1h) 48,-DMQuestions ) see Please note that your messages and files sent to this group become publicdomain upon submission and may appear anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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Re: 817 Owners Net
David Perry
Count me in!
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G4YVM ----- Original Message -----
From: <pfarris@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: [FT817] 817 Owners Net Anyone game for a FT817 Users net on the air?...for tests, and such?Questions ) see Please note that your messages and files sent to this group become publicdomain upon submission and may appear anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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Re: Aluminum Brief Case 24.99
David Perry
Available from B&Q for a tenner. No foam tho!
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David ----- Original Message -----
From: <kg4fxg@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: [FT817] Aluminum Brief Case 24.99 Lowes carries an Aluminum/Plastic Brief Case for 24.97 and it hasQuestions ) see Please note that your messages and files sent to this group become publicdomain upon submission and may appear anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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Re: Battery compartment (Dave Perry)
David Perry
I stand corrected...240 it is then Eitherway, fine for Nims.
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From: <g4ilo@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: [FT817] Re: Battery compartment (Dave Perry) I don't think you'd get 200mA (actually more like 240-250mA) if youQuestions ) see Please note that your messages and files sent to this group become publicdomain upon submission and may appear anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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Re: FT-817 Satellite ops.
Curtis, Tony
VE7FM:
I was wondering... Since ISS was in full sight, thus only 200 miles away, did you need the beam? How much power were you putting out? Would a dipole, J-pole, quarter-wave whip or rubber duck also have worked? --Tony K3RXK k3rxk@... <mailto:k3rxk@...> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:54:31 -0000 From: ve7fm@... <mailto:ve7fm@...> Subject: Re: FT-817 Satellite ops. --- In FT817@y <mailto:FT817@y> ..., jscalet@b <mailto:jscalet@b> ... wrote: > I worked my first totally portable satellite ops last night with my > FT-817. I worked several stations on A0-27 and copied CW from F0- 20. Congratulations Joe.......Its nice to read that you are using FT-817 for satellites & ISS....I have not purchased an FT-817 yet and I do my Walking & Bicycle operating with my Kenwood TH-D7A. I was digipeating APRS via ISS last night on Orbit # 14614.......I digipeated my APRS couple of times via ISS....International Space Station.....using TH-D7A in my left hand palm and a homebrew miniature handheld 2 element beam in my right hand. If this interest you, click on url http//www.ariss.net .....then click on VE7FM- 7 on the "Station List" to see the maps of my location........go back to Station List again and click on the astrick in the second column infront of VE7FM-7 and you will some more details....if you wanna see more...go to Station List again and right on the top of the station list click on the first column infront of ISS This particular pass of ISS was especially very thrilling for me....I was in the front yard looking at the Space Ship going across the sky as a very very bright star and at the same time I was sending the aprs packets to it and then getting data from ISS back into my handheld..... the porch light was off and in the country side where I live there are no street lights and its pitch dark... the TH-D7A keyboard & Data Display was lit green----every transmission turned the red led ON and its light was reflecting on the handheld beam etc......and there was this green led blinking ON when all the aprs data was coming from ISS ....and now add to all this the audio beeps with data from several station scrolling fast on the green display with keypad lit in the dark ...out of this world space ship like set-up in the palm of my hand and at the same time looking at the ISS travelling up in the sky. I hope to have a Pedestrian Mobile or HPM qso with you soon on AO-27 , UO-14 and also exchange some messages via ISS....if this interest you further ...you may wish to read message #2690 ૂ on HFpack Group. Also, I would like to read more about your homebrew similar to Arrow antenna.....73 mohan ve7fm / qrp . recumbent bicycle mobile with . o _ sstv ssb rtty cw aprs on hf vhf uhf |_\< _' . . . . ....,,..,,....;;... O ' 'o <> |
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Re: 817 Owners Net
pfarris wrote:
Anyone game for a FT817 Users net on the air?FT-817 users are welcome on the HFpack schedules and frequencies. On most of the HFpack skeds 50~75% of the operators are FT-817 owners. Discussions include similar topics to the FT817 egroup. Bonnie KQ6XA |
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Re: FT-817 Satellite ops.
--- In FT817@y..., jscalet@b... wrote:
I worked my first totally portable satellite ops last night with my20. Congratulations Joe.......Its nice to read that you are using FT-817 for satellites & ISS....I have not purchased an FT-817 yet and I do my Walking & Bicycle operating with my Kenwood TH-D7A. I was digipeating APRS via ISS last night on Orbit # 14614.......I digipeated my APRS couple of times via ISS....International Space Station.....using TH-D7A in my left hand palm and a homebrew miniature handheld 2 element beam in my right hand. If this interest you, click on url http//www.ariss.net .....then click on VE7FM- 7 on the "Station List" to see the maps of my location........go back to Station List again and click on the astrick in the second column infront of VE7FM-7 and you will some more details....if you wanna see more...go to Station List again and right on the top of the station list click on the first column infront of ISS This particular pass of ISS was especially very thrilling for me....I was in the front yard looking at the Space Ship going across the sky as a very very bright star and at the same time I was sending the aprs packets to it and then getting data from ISS back into my handheld..... the porch light was off and in the country side where I live there are no street lights and its pitch dark... the TH-D7A keyboard & Data Display was lit green----every transmission turned the red led ON and its light was reflecting on the handheld beam etc......and there was this green led blinking ON when all the aprs data was coming from ISS ....and now add to all this the audio beeps with data from several station scrolling fast on the green display with keypad lit in the dark ...out of this world space ship like set-up in the palm of my hand and at the same time looking at the ISS travelling up in the sky. I hope to have a Pedestrian Mobile or HPM qso with you soon on AO- 27 , UO-14 and also exchange some messages via ISS....if this interest you further ...you may wish to read message #2690 ૂ on HFpack Group. Also, I would like to read more about your homebrew similar to Arrow antenna.....73 mohan ve7fm / qrp . recumbent bicycle mobile with . o _ sstv ssb rtty cw aprs on hf vhf uhf |_\< _` . . . . ....,,..,,....;;... O ` 'o |
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Re: Shipping from Europe
Jacques VE3TSC
Jim, do a Web search for their 2 element beam (D2T). I'm sure I saw a US place selling it. They may be able to help you in that if they also carry that extensible mast, then you are in luck. If not, due they have a contact to the Italy supplier, they may be able to bring it in cheaper for you.
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<snip> Are there any other options that I have to get this masting to Canda, |
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Re: 20m Low Power Window 14340~14350 (Band Plan Proposal)
Peter DL2FI wrote:
Of course their is a rule for QRP SSB since long times.Peter, the QRP Clubs are focused primarily on CW. QRP club members are an elite minority among hams. Few operators are very active using "10W QRP SSB" on the 14MHz band. "QRP" is not the objective of the SSB 20m Low Power Window Band Plan Proposal, so please do not confuse QRP with SSB Low Power. Both the practical and theoretical power level comparisons show that 10W PEP SSB is not equivalent to QRP 5W CW. One must consider when formulating a proposal, whether the plan is both technically meritorious and can achieve popular acceptance among the general ham community. It is doubtful that a 10W PEP SSB proposal would achieve popular acceptance. Personally, I would not be an advocate for it, since my own technical experience has shown that it is an unacceptably low power level for dependable SSB communications in the 14MHz band. Practically speaking, a popular proposal is a moderate proposal, achieving the goal with the most support from everyone. The primary goal in this case is to provide a small "safe harbor" on 20m SSB, free of kilowatts. Bonnie KQ6XA |
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Re: 20m Low Power Window 14340~14350 (Band Plan Proposal)
--- In FT817@y..., "KQ6XA" <xtalradio@a...> wrote:
<snip> 50Watts SSB has a similar communication capability as<snip> Well then, if the goal is to communicate -- and I'm _really_ not trying to revive the usual code v. no code war here -- use CW. CW is one of our tools, and this is what it's best suited for. Cheers, Tom KC5UN |
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