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Hi

In the process at deciding which rig to buy, FT100D or FT817, i have found
op. manuals and schematics of the Ft817 in the egroup for FT817.
Do these items exist for the FT100D in downloadable form somewhere?

best regards Lars
OZ1HMN
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Helle & Lars Myrthu Rasmussen

THANK YOU THANK YOU BARRY. Too bad the install instructions on page
74 don't mention that. All is well now.

Thanks again / 73
Jerry N9AW



--- In FT817@y..., w4wb@a... wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Sounds like you may not have turned on the NAR. It is in the
Operating menu, Row 7, C Key. That should do the trick.

72 de Barry - W4WB



--- In FT817@y..., jerrys@e... wrote:

Hello FT817 owners,
I bought my FT817 at Dayton and finally got it on the air

yesterday

(6/2). Today I went to install the 500hz IRC CW filter which I

also

bought at Dayton but it doesn't seem to be working. Yes, I

changed

menu item 38 to CW. Both the CW and OFF positions sound the

same.

When putting the filter menu into the SSB position it sounds

filtered

but it sounds like the CW is partially getting cut off. On SSB

the

signals are unintelligible with the filter set to ON (SSB that

is).

Again the SSB signals sounds the same with the filter in the CW

and

OFF positions. So it sounds like the filter may be working but

only

when menu item 38 is set to SSB, however, it doesn't sound like

any

500 hz CW filter I have ever heard.

I'll be calling IRC tomorrow and I am sure they will either have

any

answer or will ship a new one because they have always given

great

service and stood behind their products.

I am just wondering if anyone else experienced this

though ????????

73
Jerry N9AW
n9aw@a...

Bob,

Thanks for posting the info on the CTCSS Tones.

From your posts I gather that you are producing FT Basic
at cost/a loss to yourself. And are doing it to further
the 817 community.

Would you be willing to share what you have found out about
the cloning process so that as a group we can tackle the
Palm and Linux interfaces to the radio?

I am currently working with another individual to develop a
LGPL'ed Linux/C++ cloning and CAT class interface to the 817.

72/73,

Bryan - k0emt

I got my FT817 at Dayton and finally put it on the air yesterday
(6/2). Anyway, the rig sitting flat against a table just doesn't
work for me.....too hard to see the display and get at the buttons.

I was at ACE Hardware today and saw a 4 inch paint roller with a
matching size tray. If you turn the tray over, cut off the back half
plus remove the bubble or hump in the back you wind up with a nice
black, heavy vinyl, riser stand for the FT817. It is about 1.25
inches in the back and 1.75 inches in the front. The width is
perfect at about 5.25 inches where the rig sits and 6 inches at the
base where it meets the desk. I finshed off the cut edges with my
dremel tool and it looks pretty good but I think I will spray mine
with black enamel. The open tray cavity under the FT817 fits the
neat little yellow FT817 book from VE3AYR or Palm Paddles, etc.

Also, if you turn the finished tray over the 817 fits right inside of
it. This will be handy for carrying both inside of another bag or
pouch. I will use the Yaesu plastic bag or a bubble wrap bag on the
817 first though. The tray would add some protection for the rig
while traveling.

If interested the tray roller I purchased from ACE Hardware is called
the Speed Roller kit and has a UPC label code of 44359 00500. I'm
sure most paint trays for 4 in. rollers would be very similar.

Just thought I'd share for those interested.

73
Jerry N9AW

Hi Jerry,

Sounds like you may not have turned on the NAR. It is in the
Operating menu, Row 7, C Key. That should do the trick.

72 de Barry - W4WB



--- In FT817@y..., jerrys@e... wrote:

Hello FT817 owners,
I bought my FT817 at Dayton and finally got it on the air yesterday
(6/2). Today I went to install the 500hz IRC CW filter which I

also

bought at Dayton but it doesn't seem to be working. Yes, I

changed

menu item 38 to CW. Both the CW and OFF positions sound the

same.

When putting the filter menu into the SSB position it sounds

filtered

but it sounds like the CW is partially getting cut off. On SSB the
signals are unintelligible with the filter set to ON (SSB that

is).

Again the SSB signals sounds the same with the filter in the CW and
OFF positions. So it sounds like the filter may be working but

only

when menu item 38 is set to SSB, however, it doesn't sound like any
500 hz CW filter I have ever heard.

I'll be calling IRC tomorrow and I am sure they will either have

any

answer or will ship a new one because they have always given great
service and stood behind their products.

I am just wondering if anyone else experienced this though ????????

73
Jerry N9AW
n9aw@a...

Hello FT817 owners,
I bought my FT817 at Dayton and finally got it on the air yesterday
(6/2). Today I went to install the 500hz IRC CW filter which I also
bought at Dayton but it doesn't seem to be working. Yes, I changed
menu item 38 to CW. Both the CW and OFF positions sound the same.
When putting the filter menu into the SSB position it sounds filtered
but it sounds like the CW is partially getting cut off. On SSB the
signals are unintelligible with the filter set to ON (SSB that is).
Again the SSB signals sounds the same with the filter in the CW and
OFF positions. So it sounds like the filter may be working but only
when menu item 38 is set to SSB, however, it doesn't sound like any
500 hz CW filter I have ever heard.

I'll be calling IRC tomorrow and I am sure they will either have any
answer or will ship a new one because they have always given great
service and stood behind their products.

I am just wondering if anyone else experienced this though ????????

73
Jerry N9AW
n9aw@...

I have never heard of
putting batteries in parallel as a problem. Could you elaborate please. I
don't know why this would be a bad idea.

Hi all,...

I don't see a problem in using multi pack in parallel; The PROBLEM is
trying to charge them in parallel!

Tom aa2vk


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In the files section, the schematics folder.
I built the CAT/Clone cable portion of the 817cat.gif cable
and it works for me.

I used generic "high speed switching" NPN's from Radio Shack
and picked up the resistors & DB9 there. I picked up the
mini-din from my local parts store. If you search the archive
I also listed a local store that will ship out the mini-dins.

72/73,

Bryan - k0emt

Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 6/3/01, 2:47:45 PM, Christian.Frankl@... wrote regarding
[FT817] CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!:
...

Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?

Thanks for the info Press.

Bill W9WCR

GO CUBS................

To bad John, I was hoping the supply Press was talking about was not a swithching supply.
I did buy a CUP36-12-1 which is the one Universal radio sells and found there was a LOT of RF hash
when using a whip antenna like the ATX. I did try several chokes and nothing helped.
Universal said in their ad "we also added a surface mount capacitor right inside the plug to reduce
RFI. " I dont see how that would help? If so I would do it in a second and be done with this hunt for
THE supply.

My kingdom for a analog 2 amp wall wart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
73 Bill W9WCR

Barry,

That is exactly what I have now. I was thinking that by taking all of my
packs and putting them in parallel I would slow the voltage drop
considerably and keep my power output higher longer. I have never heard of
putting batteries in parallel as a problem. Could you elaborate please. I
don't know why this would be a bad idea.

Thanks for the response,

Also Doug thanks for your information also. I will look over those charts.
Looks like a great site! Thanks!

72,
Keith
N1XTK

Pres Waterman wrote:

You are not willing to pay $30 for the proper cable with RS-232 to TTL
level converters built into a compact plug with the proper connectors
and a guarantee to not ruin your radio?

I think I paid $26 for mine at R&L, which is much better than trying to
homebrew something that will be a kludge when finished...

Nick
WB4SQI

Understand Bonnie. I think we can both agree that the guesstimates
becomes more of a SWAG as the size and diversity of the corporation
increases!

With all this continuing success of the FT-817, it will be a while
before the "Mk II" version comes out. It will be interesting to see
how the declining solar cycle will play into the decisions made by
Vertex in the next round of products. Notice that most have a life
cycle of about 5 years with them. The bottom of the cycle is about
then and QRP will be a bit more challenging. :-)

72 de Barry - W4WB


--- In FT817@y..., "KQ6XA" <xtalradio@a...> wrote:

Barry W4WB wrote:

if Vertex is making a good profit, great for them
--- they have earned it and whatever else is yet to come.

More power to them, Barry! That's the name of the game for

business.

I'm constantly amazed that the ham radio equipment niche continues

to

produce many new designs.

I was originally replying to several posts which mused about how

much

was being made from manufacturing FT-817s. My guesstimate on what's
left after the bean counters was based solely upon personal

experience

as a manufacturing engineer and corporate executive in the consumer
electronics business. Could be off by a factor of 2 or so.

Bonnie KQ6XA

5.5x2.5 mm

Barry W4WB wrote:

if Vertex is making a good profit, great for them
--- they have earned it and whatever else is yet to come.

More power to them, Barry! That's the name of the game for business.
I'm constantly amazed that the ham radio equipment niche continues to
produce many new designs.

I was originally replying to several posts which mused about how much
was being made from manufacturing FT-817s. My guesstimate on what's
left after the bean counters was based solely upon personal experience
as a manufacturing engineer and corporate executive in the consumer
electronics business. Could be off by a factor of 2 or so.

Bonnie KQ6XA

I'm not interested in $$$ -- just having fun w/my FT-817!

(I'm still trying to put together an interface cable -- don't want to
pay Yaesu the incredible $$$ for a simple cable.!)


You are not willing to pay $30 for the proper cable with RS-232 to TTL level
converters built into a compact plug with the proper connectors and a
guarantee to not ruin your radio?

Amazing...

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

Hi everyone,

I have one of these and tried it with the 817 but it does seem to
generate a good amount of RF hash. Has anyone found a 2A wall wart type
transformer that works with the 817 without the hash ?

Has anyone tried the PS that Universal Radio sells for the 817

73,

John
N3ZQJ

Pres Waterman wrote:

What is the model number for your supply!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no way to tell at MCM.

It's MCM part number 28-2200

Maybe viewable at:


Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

I have no idea what the point of this discussion is; however, if
Vertex is making a good profit, great for them --- they have earned
it and whatever else is yet to come.

A general rule of thumb is that the non-recurring cost to build (CTB)
should be about 20% of the retail price (or $150 in this case).
Looking at the construction of the 817, this is in the ballpark for
CTB. So that means that perhaps there is a GROSS profit of about $600
per unit. Out of this GROSS profit comes retail dealer margin,
marketing, warranty, service & support, amortized R&D, shipping,
general overhead, benefits, and so on. What is left is the NET
profit. In most large companies, this is where the accountants do
their "magic" in cost allocation. On a gross sales of $6,000,000, I
could easily believe that the books could show a net profit of from a
loss to maybe $2,000,000.

The real point here is that we should all be delighted (except maybe
folks at ICOM, Kenwood, etc.) that Vertex hit a home run with this
product. Their management will be more willing in the future to
invest in this "small segment" of their overall business. That is
good for all of us and ham radio in general.

72 de Barry - W4WB


--- In FT817@y..., "theshadow" <theshadow@s...> wrote:

Does that take account of R&D ??
----- Original Message -----
From: "KQ6XA" <xtalradio@a...>
To: <FT817@y...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:15 AM
Subject: [FT817] 8000 FT-918 Statistic (vertex's estimated profit)

A ballpark estimate: Vertex's profit on 8000 FT-917 radios is
around US$500,000.

Bonnie KQ6XA



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